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* MisaimedMarketing: TheMerch includes [[http://mlparena.com/mlp/index.php/topic,311357.0.html a]] [[http://derpiboo.ru/images/113165 T]]-[[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/10/walmart-releases-brony-shirt-complete.html shirt]] that features G1 ponies but mentions G4's PeripheryDemographic, leaving both generations' fans confused.
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* MisaimedMarketing: MisaimedMerchandising: TheMerch includes [[http://mlparena.com/mlp/index.php/topic,311357.0.html a]] [[http://derpiboo.ru/images/113165 T]]-[[http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/10/walmart-releases-brony-shirt-complete.html shirt]] that features G1 ponies but mentions G4's PeripheryDemographic, leaving both generations' fans confused.
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** G3.5 fell into this, because although it retained an assortment of popular characters from G3, it switched over to a heavily stylized look which didn't even particularly resemble ''any'' kind of equine, with short muzzles and hooves nearly the size of their heads - the UnintentionallyUncannyValley [[SpinoffBabies "Newborn Cuties" spin-off]] took this even further, resembling colorful human babies with some horse traits. Not helping matters is that the tail end of G3 proper suddenly switched from the franchise's typical large cast to a MinimalistCast, which G3.5 largely retained, disappointing those who wanted other ponies. The retool was unpopular everywhere, and it contributed to Filly Funtasia's [[FranchiseKiller displacement of the franchise]] in Germany.
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** G3.5 fell into this, because although it retained an assortment of popular characters from G3, it switched over to a heavily stylized look which didn't even particularly resemble ''any'' kind of equine, with short muzzles and hooves nearly the size of their heads - the UnintentionallyUncannyValley UnintentionalUncannyValley [[SpinoffBabies "Newborn Cuties" spin-off]] took this even further, resembling colorful human babies with some horse traits. Not helping matters is that the tail end of G3 proper suddenly switched from the franchise's typical large cast to a MinimalistCast, which G3.5 largely retained, disappointing those who wanted other ponies. The retool was unpopular everywhere, and it contributed to Filly Funtasia's [[FranchiseKiller displacement of the franchise]] in Germany.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise:
** This is why G2 sold so poorly. It retooled the characters into looking more like full-size horses than cute little ponies, and as a result, didn't last for more than a year or so in the US (though [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff it went over somewhat better in various European nations]]], where it went on for a few more years). The next retool returned the ponies to something close to their original look, and was much more popular as a result.
** G3.5 fell into this, because although it retained an assortment of popular characters from G3, it switched over to a heavily stylized look which didn't even particularly resemble ''any'' kind of equine, with short muzzles and hooves nearly the size of their heads - the UnintentionallyUncannyValley [[SpinoffBabies "Newborn Cuties" spin-off]] took this even further, resembling colorful human babies with some horse traits. Not helping matters is that the tail end of G3 proper suddenly switched from the franchise's typical large cast to a MinimalistCast, which G3.5 largely retained, disappointing those who wanted other ponies. The retool was unpopular everywhere, and it contributed to Filly Funtasia's [[FranchiseKiller displacement of the franchise]] in Germany.
** This is why G2 sold so poorly. It retooled the characters into looking more like full-size horses than cute little ponies, and as a result, didn't last for more than a year or so in the US (though [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff it went over somewhat better in various European nations]]], where it went on for a few more years). The next retool returned the ponies to something close to their original look, and was much more popular as a result.
** G3.5 fell into this, because although it retained an assortment of popular characters from G3, it switched over to a heavily stylized look which didn't even particularly resemble ''any'' kind of equine, with short muzzles and hooves nearly the size of their heads - the UnintentionallyUncannyValley [[SpinoffBabies "Newborn Cuties" spin-off]] took this even further, resembling colorful human babies with some horse traits. Not helping matters is that the tail end of G3 proper suddenly switched from the franchise's typical large cast to a MinimalistCast, which G3.5 largely retained, disappointing those who wanted other ponies. The retool was unpopular everywhere, and it contributed to Filly Funtasia's [[FranchiseKiller displacement of the franchise]] in Germany.
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* StockParodyJokes:
** Ponyland/Dream Valley being all-female. This is CommonKnowledge as all generations besides G3 (2003-2009) featured stallions and colts.
** Ponyland/Dream Valley as a SugarBowl. Alternatively, Ponyland/Dream Valley as a CrapsaccharineWorld, due to how 1980s/G1 works presented it.
** Ponyland/Dream Valley being all-female. This is CommonKnowledge as all generations besides G3 (2003-2009) featured stallions and colts.
** Ponyland/Dream Valley as a SugarBowl. Alternatively, Ponyland/Dream Valley as a CrapsaccharineWorld, due to how 1980s/G1 works presented it.
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** The fandom in general, really. Collectors have been into the Franchise since (almost the beginning), but Friendship Is Magic was the first time they got major attention.
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** The fandom in general, really. Collectors have been into the Franchise since (almost (almost) the beginning), beginning, but Friendship Is Magic was the first time they got major attention.
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** the fandom in general ,really
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** the The fandom in general ,reallygeneral, really. Collectors have been into the Franchise since (almost the beginning), but Friendship Is Magic was the first time they got major attention.
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* YMMV/MyLittlePonyGameloft
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* YMMV/MyLittlePonyANewGeneration
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** YMMV/MyLittlePonyANewGeneration
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* AudienceAlienatingEra:
** G2 for the toys. The characters received new horse-like designs similar to ''Breyers'', but fans really hated this. The generation only lasted a few years and never received an animated adaptation of any sort (though it had comics and a video game).
** G3 for the cartoon, though some include G1's ''Tales''. Both introduced fluffier, more SliceOfLife works that turned off fans who prefer the action of the previous works.
** G2 for the toys. The characters received new horse-like designs similar to ''Breyers'', but fans really hated this. The generation only lasted a few years and never received an animated adaptation of any sort (though it had comics and a video game).
** G3 for the cartoon, though some include G1's ''Tales''. Both introduced fluffier, more SliceOfLife works that turned off fans who prefer the action of the previous works.
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* DorkAge:
** G2 for the toys. The characters received new horse-like designs similar to ''Breyers'', but fans really hated this. The generation only lasted a few years and never received an animated adaptation of any sort (though it had comics and a video game).
** G3 for the cartoon, though some include G1's ''Tales''. Both introduced fluffier, more SliceOfLife works that turned off fans who prefer the action of the previous works.
** G2 for the toys. The characters received new horse-like designs similar to ''Breyers'', but fans really hated this. The generation only lasted a few years and never received an animated adaptation of any sort (though it had comics and a video game).
** G3 for the cartoon, though some include G1's ''Tales''. Both introduced fluffier, more SliceOfLife works that turned off fans who prefer the action of the previous works.
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* SlidingScaleOfSocialSatisfaction: Categorized as "Sweet with a Helping of Sour".
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** Due to ValuesDissonance, some people call Gypsy from the UK comics "Tarot" instead.
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* SpellMyNameWithAnS:
** Is it "Katrina" or "Catrina"? Even sources mix them up, though the original name was Catrina, in both the title card of the episode and the original VHS.
** Is the first special "Firefly's Adventure","Rescue from Midnight Castle", or "Rescue At Midnight Castle"? All are different names under different rereleases of the first special.
** Many, many ponies have different names in different countries, leading to this too. There's also Arabus or Erebus, and there at ''least'' four different ways to spell Tirac.
*** Arabus is fanmade as Erebus is the only name that appears in the VHS tapes and Tirac is the one in both the cartoon bible and the original VHS, making it the official spelling for the original character.
** Is it "Katrina" or "Catrina"? Even sources mix them up, though the original name was Catrina, in both the title card of the episode and the original VHS.
** Is the first special "Firefly's Adventure","Rescue from Midnight Castle", or "Rescue At Midnight Castle"? All are different names under different rereleases of the first special.
** Many, many ponies have different names in different countries, leading to this too. There's also Arabus or Erebus, and there at ''least'' four different ways to spell Tirac.
*** Arabus is fanmade as Erebus is the only name that appears in the VHS tapes and Tirac is the one in both the cartoon bible and the original VHS, making it the official spelling for the original character.
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* TastesLikeDiabetes: What with the technicolour ponies in vibrant settings and motion, advocating friendship with sentiments, lessons, and songs, giving [[AnAesop aesops]] in the form of a letter intended for Princess Celestia[[note]]Who has now retired and has been replaced by Twilight herself.[[/note]].
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* TastesLikeDiabetes: SweetnessAversion: What with the technicolour ponies in vibrant settings and motion, advocating friendship with sentiments, lessons, and songs, giving [[AnAesop aesops]] in the form of a letter intended for Princess Celestia[[note]]Who has now retired and has been replaced by Twilight herself.[[/note]].
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* FanNickname:
** "Unipeg": A formerly popular term for {{Winged Unicorn}}s until G4. When ''Friendship is Magic'' became popular, fans switched to "alicorn" (which actually refers to the material unicorn horns are made of), which ended up AscendedFanon. "Unipeg" still sometimes pops up when referring to G1-G3. "Pegicorn" was also an accepted term.
** "Original Six": The original six G1 ponies: Butterscotch, Blue Belle, Minty, Snuzzle, Cotton Candy, and Blossom.
** "Core 7": The seven ponies that became the main characters during late G3 and G3.5: Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash, Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle, Cheerilee, Starsong, and Toola Roola.
** All the generation lines are technically fan nicknames. G3.5 was never officially anything but a SoftReboot but it was noticeably different enough to be given its own moniker. ''Tales'' is not "G1.5" because only the cartoon adaptation was different, not the toys (which resembled normal G1 toys).
** Subverted with a few G3 ponies released through non-standard methods such as cons or mail order. They're referred to by simple monikers like "Egyptian Pony" or "Breast Cancer Awareness Pony".
** "Unipeg": A formerly popular term for {{Winged Unicorn}}s until G4. When ''Friendship is Magic'' became popular, fans switched to "alicorn" (which actually refers to the material unicorn horns are made of), which ended up AscendedFanon. "Unipeg" still sometimes pops up when referring to G1-G3. "Pegicorn" was also an accepted term.
** "Original Six": The original six G1 ponies: Butterscotch, Blue Belle, Minty, Snuzzle, Cotton Candy, and Blossom.
** "Core 7": The seven ponies that became the main characters during late G3 and G3.5: Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash, Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle, Cheerilee, Starsong, and Toola Roola.
** All the generation lines are technically fan nicknames. G3.5 was never officially anything but a SoftReboot but it was noticeably different enough to be given its own moniker. ''Tales'' is not "G1.5" because only the cartoon adaptation was different, not the toys (which resembled normal G1 toys).
** Subverted with a few G3 ponies released through non-standard methods such as cons or mail order. They're referred to by simple monikers like "Egyptian Pony" or "Breast Cancer Awareness Pony".
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* FanMyopia: So very very very much. Many people would take one look at the show and go "I don't get it. What's the big whoop?" Averted with the actual demographic though.
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* CompleteMonster: You'd think that a lighthearted franchise such as this one aimed at a young audience wouldn't have ''these'' types of villains, right? ''Wrong'', as [[VileVillainSaccharineShow these ones prove otherwise]]...
** ''[[YMMV/MyLittlePonyTVSpecials Rescue at Midnight Castle]]'': [[BigBad Tirac]], a [[BigRedDevil demon]] of a [[OurCentaursAreDifferent centaur]], was the ruler of the Midnight Castle, and planned to send Dream Valley into a state of eternal chaos. To do so, he used a sack containing magical spells in it to essentially torture and transform young ponies into his hideous, winged dragons which he could then use to pull his Chariot of Darkness. In addition, whenever his henchman Scorpan [[YouHaveFailedMe failed him]], Tirac would threaten to have Spike's head cut off if he ever screwed up again; Spike was a [[WouldHurtAChild baby dragon]].
** ''[[YMMV/MyLittlePonyAndFriends "The Quest of the Princess Ponies" arc]]'': [[EvilOverlord King Lavan]], the tyrannical ruler of the [[MagmaMan Lava Demons]], regularly physically abuses his subjects for little reason other than spite and his own amusement, especially his second in command Sludge. Coveting power for its own sake, Lavan seeks to absorb the power of the Princess Ponies' wands to become [[AGodAmI an all-powerful crystal being]], completely uncaring that doing so would trigger a magical cataclysm, [[ItsAllAboutMe so long as his selfish ambitions are fulfilled]]. When the Princess Ponies refuse to help him, Lavan attempts to have them executed in a lava pool out of spite, and repeatedly tries to kill their group, including the baby dragon Spike. Greedy and power-hungry beyond measure, Lavan [[TheUnfettered will stop at nothing and destroy anything to claim the power he craves]].
** ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWIssue75To78 IDW's "Cosmos" arc]]'': [[AntagonistTitle Cosmos]] is an alien invader and the Spirit of Malice. Upon her arrival, she was the true entity that threw Equestria into chaos and disharmony rather than [[Characters/FriendshipIsMagicDiscord Discord]]. This included turning an orphanage full of [[WouldHurtAChild children]] into a literal towering inferno and nearly killing them all among other horrible things. When her boyfriend, Discord, [[EvenEvilHasStandards objected to this]], she would begin abusing him out of spite and ultimately goes on a rampage that threatens to destroy the fabric of reality and the planet along with it. In the present, she possesses several innocent ponies to use as her hosts and as weapons against their loved ones before finally merging them into her new body. All the while, she set about turning Equestria into a nightmarish hellscape and its inhabitants into things all sorts of random creatures, some of which could be fatal, all the while they are [[AndIMustScream completely aware]]. When finally confronted by Discord, Cosmos reveals she never loved him at all, seeing him more as a possession she's entitled to than a person.
** ''[[YMMV/MyLittlePonyTVSpecials Rescue at Midnight Castle]]'': [[BigBad Tirac]], a [[BigRedDevil demon]] of a [[OurCentaursAreDifferent centaur]], was the ruler of the Midnight Castle, and planned to send Dream Valley into a state of eternal chaos. To do so, he used a sack containing magical spells in it to essentially torture and transform young ponies into his hideous, winged dragons which he could then use to pull his Chariot of Darkness. In addition, whenever his henchman Scorpan [[YouHaveFailedMe failed him]], Tirac would threaten to have Spike's head cut off if he ever screwed up again; Spike was a [[WouldHurtAChild baby dragon]].
** ''[[YMMV/MyLittlePonyAndFriends "The Quest of the Princess Ponies" arc]]'': [[EvilOverlord King Lavan]], the tyrannical ruler of the [[MagmaMan Lava Demons]], regularly physically abuses his subjects for little reason other than spite and his own amusement, especially his second in command Sludge. Coveting power for its own sake, Lavan seeks to absorb the power of the Princess Ponies' wands to become [[AGodAmI an all-powerful crystal being]], completely uncaring that doing so would trigger a magical cataclysm, [[ItsAllAboutMe so long as his selfish ambitions are fulfilled]]. When the Princess Ponies refuse to help him, Lavan attempts to have them executed in a lava pool out of spite, and repeatedly tries to kill their group, including the baby dragon Spike. Greedy and power-hungry beyond measure, Lavan [[TheUnfettered will stop at nothing and destroy anything to claim the power he craves]].
** ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWIssue75To78 IDW's "Cosmos" arc]]'': [[AntagonistTitle Cosmos]] is an alien invader and the Spirit of Malice. Upon her arrival, she was the true entity that threw Equestria into chaos and disharmony rather than [[Characters/FriendshipIsMagicDiscord Discord]]. This included turning an orphanage full of [[WouldHurtAChild children]] into a literal towering inferno and nearly killing them all among other horrible things. When her boyfriend, Discord, [[EvenEvilHasStandards objected to this]], she would begin abusing him out of spite and ultimately goes on a rampage that threatens to destroy the fabric of reality and the planet along with it. In the present, she possesses several innocent ponies to use as her hosts and as weapons against their loved ones before finally merging them into her new body. All the while, she set about turning Equestria into a nightmarish hellscape and its inhabitants into things all sorts of random creatures, some of which could be fatal, all the while they are [[AndIMustScream completely aware]]. When finally confronted by Discord, Cosmos reveals she never loved him at all, seeing him more as a possession she's entitled to than a person.
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* ValuesDissonance:
** G1 had a pony modeled after Romani stereotypes, predictably named 'Gypsy', which nowadays is considered a slur. This character only appeared in the comics and her toy was only sold in Europe.
** Also from G1, one of the Big Brothers was named Wigwam, this time embodying Native American stereotypes. He wears a headdress, has a supposedly friendly rivalry with Tex (the ''cowboy'' pony), and his coat is orange, almost ''red''. While ''FIM'' itself did use some ethnic stereotypes, ponies like Gypsy and Wigwam would never even ''think'' of being made today.
** G1 had a pony modeled after Romani stereotypes, predictably named 'Gypsy', which nowadays is considered a slur. This character only appeared in the comics and her toy was only sold in Europe.
** Also from G1, one of the Big Brothers was named Wigwam, this time embodying Native American stereotypes. He wears a headdress, has a supposedly friendly rivalry with Tex (the ''cowboy'' pony), and his coat is orange, almost ''red''. While ''FIM'' itself did use some ethnic stereotypes, ponies like Gypsy and Wigwam would never even ''think'' of being made today.
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* ValuesDissonance:
** G1 had a pony modeled after Romani stereotypes, predictably named 'Gypsy', which nowadays is considered a slur. This character only appeared in the comics and her toy was only sold in Europe.
** Also from G1, one of the Big Brothers was named Wigwam, this time embodying Native American stereotypes. He wears a headdress, has a supposedly friendly rivalry with Tex (the ''cowboy'' pony), and his coat is orange, almost ''red''. While ''FIM'' itself did use some ethnic stereotypes, ponies like Gypsy and Wigwam would never even ''think'' of being made today.
** G1 had a pony modeled after Romani stereotypes, predictably named 'Gypsy', which nowadays is considered a slur. This character only appeared in the comics and her toy was only sold in Europe.
** Also from G1, one of the Big Brothers was named Wigwam, this time embodying Native American stereotypes. He wears a headdress, has a supposedly friendly rivalry with Tex (the ''cowboy'' pony), and his coat is orange, almost ''red''. While ''FIM'' itself did use some ethnic stereotypes, ponies like Gypsy and Wigwam would never even ''think'' of being made today.
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* ValuesDissonance:
** G1 had a pony modeled after Romani stereotypes, predictably named 'Gypsy', which nowadays is considered a slur. This character only appeared in the comics and her toy was only sold in Europe.
** Also from G1, one of the Big Brothers was named Wigwam, this time embodying Native American stereotypes. He wears a headdress, has a supposedly friendly rivalry with Tex (the ''cowboy'' pony), and his coat is orange, almost ''red''. While ''FIM'' itself did use some ethnic stereotypes, ponies like Gypsy and Wigwam would never even ''think'' of being made today.
** G1 had a pony modeled after Romani stereotypes, predictably named 'Gypsy', which nowadays is considered a slur. This character only appeared in the comics and her toy was only sold in Europe.
** Also from G1, one of the Big Brothers was named Wigwam, this time embodying Native American stereotypes. He wears a headdress, has a supposedly friendly rivalry with Tex (the ''cowboy'' pony), and his coat is orange, almost ''red''. While ''FIM'' itself did use some ethnic stereotypes, ponies like Gypsy and Wigwam would never even ''think'' of being made today.
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** Even G4 has its own broken base. Again, it's a battle between those who love the show for being hip and for its pop-culture references (drew there due to Lauren Faust helming the series) versus existing viewers from G3 who love the franchise for it's SliceOfLife format. It gets worse than that. What about the fans who loathe the toy line and all toy ponies vs the ones who want them to appear in the cartoon?
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** Even G4 has its own broken base. Again, it's a battle between those who love the show for being hip and for its pop-culture references (drew there due to Lauren Faust helming the series) versus existing viewers from G3 who love the franchise for it's its SliceOfLife format. It gets worse than that. What about the fans who loathe the toy line and all toy ponies vs the ones who want them to appear in the cartoon?
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** Though G3 has a niche fandom with those drawn to the series since ''My Little Pony Tales'' for it's SliceOfLife format, who considers anything prior to ''Tales'' unwatchable and are against the direction taken by G4 Season 2.
** Even G4 has it's own broken base. Again, it's a battle between those who love the show for being hip and for it's pop-culture references (drew there due to Lauren Faust helming the series) versus existing viewers from G3 who love the franchise for it's SliceOfLife format. It gets worse than that. What about the fans who loathe the toy line and all toy ponies vs the ones who want them to appear in the cartoon?
** Even G4 has it's own broken base. Again, it's a battle between those who love the show for being hip and for it's pop-culture references (drew there due to Lauren Faust helming the series) versus existing viewers from G3 who love the franchise for it's SliceOfLife format. It gets worse than that. What about the fans who loathe the toy line and all toy ponies vs the ones who want them to appear in the cartoon?
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** Though G3 has a niche fandom with those drawn to the series since ''My Little Pony Tales'' for it's its SliceOfLife format, who considers anything prior to ''Tales'' unwatchable and are against the direction taken by G4 Season 2.
** Even G4 hasit's its own broken base. Again, it's a battle between those who love the show for being hip and for it's its pop-culture references (drew there due to Lauren Faust helming the series) versus existing viewers from G3 who love the franchise for it's SliceOfLife format. It gets worse than that. What about the fans who loathe the toy line and all toy ponies vs the ones who want them to appear in the cartoon?
** Even G4 has
