History YMMV / MulanII

* StrawmanHasAPoint: The Ancestors are treated like unreasonable, spiteful jerks for cheering and rejoicing when Mulan and Shang's engagement means Mushu's role as Guardian will be ended, and taking joy in picking on abusing Mushu--somewhat justifying his desperation to not losing his job--when if anything, they're perfectly reasonable for having to dread every moment of him gloating and pushing them around to the point that he's [[LaserGuidedKarma getting what he deserves]]—and on top of that, him having seemingly learned nothing by the end of the film when he gets to remain in his role only further aggravates the point.

* StrawmanHasAPoint: The Ancestors are treated like unreasonable, spiteful jerks for cheering and rejoicing when Mulan and Shang's engagement means Mushu's role as Guardian will be ended, and looking forward to it while abusing Mushu--somewhat justifying his desperation to not losing his job--when if anything, they're perfectly reasonable for having to dread every moment of him gloating and pushing them around to the point that he's [[LaserGuidedKarma getting what he deserves]]—and on top of that, him having seemingly learned nothing by the end of the film when he gets to remain in his role only further aggravates the point.

* {{Narm}}: Mulan and Shang arguing in the campground is hard to be taken seriously due to Shang's over the top facial expressions.

* TearJerker: Mulan mourning over Shang's supposed death when he sacrifices himself to save her, apparently spending hours in the rain crying over the cliffside before she breaks down completely as the group can only pity her.
** For some though, the impact of this scene may be lessened by his [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt survival]] shortly after the fact, and some may find it a moment too poignant for the film it is in.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Mulan and Shang come across Yao, Ling, and Chien Po just as they have been tossed out of a bar for creating a massive public disturbance and have been spurned by the townsfolk for their obnoxious behavior beforehand. The two couldn't have missed the racket that was going on inside the building beforehand, and they must have talked to some people in order to find them (thus getting a chance to hear about their escapades). Do either of them call them out on their actions so they can get character development in preparation for getting girlfriends? Nope! They don't even seem a bit bothered by it.[[note]]Which creates a bit of a plot hole when the three suddenly become perfect gentlemen to the princesses and their previous selfishness is forgotten[[/note]]

* VindicatedByHistory: '''''Very''''' [[DownPlayedTrope downplayed]]. Despite being one of the stinkers in the line of Disney's direct-to-video sequels, fans nowadays looked back at it with positive outlook. Compared to [[Film/Mulan2020 the 2020 live-action remake of the first movie]], which they felt that, [[CriticalDissonance despite some positive reviews from critics]], was inferior to the original animated movie, [[SoBadItWasBetter and no longer consider the direct-to-video sequel as the worst take on Mulan property itself]]. Fans commended the music and songs along with decent animation compared to other cheap direct-to-video outputs.

* VindicatedByHistory: ''''Very'''' [[DownPlayedTrope downplayed]]. Despite being one of the stinkers in the line of Disney's direct-to-video sequels, fans nowadays looked back at it with positive outlook. Compared to [[Film/Mulan2020 the 2020 live-action remake of the first movie]], which they felt that, [[CriticalDissonance despite some positive reviews from critics]], was inferior to the original animated movie, [[SoBadItWasBetter and no longer consider the direct-to-video sequel didn't as the worst take on Mulan property itself]]. Fans commended the music and songs along with decent animation compared to other cheap direct-to-video outputs.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans were extremely disappointed when Eddie Murphy didn't reprise the role of Mushu, sticking out because ''everyone else'' did come back. That's one reason many fans ignore the sequel. Furthermore, they were even more annoyed with him [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a level in jerkass]].

* FirstInstallmentWins: Is generally considered inferior to the first movie.

* AccidentalAesop: The phrase, "my duty is to my heart," essentially equates to, "make the most self-centered choices imaginable, so long as it's what you feel your heart is telling you". Under normal circumstances, this would just be a rather unfortunate message, but in the case of the movie's ancient Chinese setting, where arranged marriage is the only option to prevent a full-on decimating war, this would be flat-out AesopCollateralDamage. As a commenter points out on [[https://youtu.be/XSXzxc7xjXk this [=YouTube=] video]]...
-->Duty- A moral or legal obligation\\
Heart- Ones feeling or mood\\
Duty of the heart- Acting Selfish

* InferredHolocaust: We're told that the Mongols are going to invade and they vastly outnumber the Chinese armies, but the situation can be saved if the Chinese ally with another kingdom through ArrangedMarriage. This being a Disney movie, the marriages don't go through and the princesses find love with commoners. The movie is more concerned with the marriage aspect than the invasion aspect at this point so it doesn't confirm if the alliance is still made but it's implied that it was indeed created. One is left to assume that, '''presumably''', the Qigong Emperor was so taken by Mushu's Golden Dragon act that he finalized the alliance off-screen to make up for the marriage canceling and appeasing the Golden Dragon's will. However, with no onscreen confirmation of this, we are naturally left to assume the worst.

* DesignatedVillain: The Ancestors are treated like unreasonable, spiteful jerks for cheering and rejoicing when Mulan and Shang's engagement means Mushu's role as Guardian will be ended, and looking forward to it while abusing Mushu--somewhat justifying his desperation to not losing his job--when if anything, they're perfectly reasonable for having to dread every moment of him gloating and pushing them around to the point that he's [[LaserGuidedKarma getting what he deserves]]—and on top of that, him having seemingly learned nothing by the end of the film when he gets to remain in his role only further aggravates the point.

* DesignatedVillain: The Ancestors are treated like unreasonable, spiteful jerks for cheering and rejoicing when Mulan and Shang's engagement means Mushu's role as Guardian will be ended, and looking forward to it while abusing Mushu--and somewhat justify his desperation to not losing his job--when if anything, they're perfectly reasonable for having dread every moment of him gloating and pushing them around to the point that he's [[LaserGuidedKarma getting what he deserves]]—and on top of that, him learning nothing by the end of the film when he gets to remain in his role only further aggravates the point.

* DesignatedVillain: The Ancestors are treated like unreasonable, spiteful jerks for cheering and rejoicing when Mulan and Shang's engagement means Mushu's role as Guardian will be ended, and looking forward abusing Mushu, somewhat justifying his desperation to not losing his job, when if anything, they're perfectly reasonable for having dread every moment of him gloating and pushing them around to the point that he's [[LaserGuidedKarma getting what he deserves]]—and on top of that, him learning nothing by the end of the film when he gets to remain in his role only further aggravates the point.

* DesignatedVillain: The Ancestors are treated like unreasonable jerks for cheering and rejoicing when Mulan and Shang's engagement means Mushu's role as Guardian will be ended when if anything, they're perfectly reasonable for having dread every moment of him gloating and pushing them around to the point that he's [[LaserGuidedKarma getting what he deserves]]—and on top of that, him learning nothing by the end of the film when he gets to remain in his role only further aggravates the point.

* UncannyValley: Shang's over the top facial expressions during his argument with Mulan are either unsettling or hilarious to look at.

* WhatAnIdiot:
** Mulan is hit with this big time; uneasy at the idea of an arranged marriage being imposed on the princesses, she continually encourages them to follow their own hearts, which is overshadowed by the fact that if they do not go through with the union China will not have the strength necessary to repel the incoming Mongols; Mulan applauds their choice to marry the men they choose, and the union is never confirmed, thus leaving China's fate unclear.
*** Compounding this is Mulan offering her own hand in marriage to see the alliance through; despite being a war hero Mulan hardly carries the political sway of the ''Emperor's three daughters'', and that she doesn't own anything of value, land or otherwise, to offer to the alliance. That said, it's hard to imagine how Mulan hoped to deter the Mongols through her union with the prince of Qigong.
** Though with her status as the "Saviour of China", despite her lack of personal power, it would make sense why they'd accept the arrangement, if only for the status symbol.
** What do Mulan and Shang propose as an escort for ''the three princesses and daughters of the Emperor''? A mere ''three'' soldiers, Yao, Ling and Chien-Po, to ensure their safety. Even the Emperor is puzzled by Shang's logic behind this choice.
** The ancestors have a moment of this when Mushu is excited for Mulan and Shang being married. Rather than break it to him ''after'' the vows have been made that he'd lose his guardianship, they gleefully mock him with the fact the instant he brings it up. This leads him to try and break the two up to keep his pedestal. Even after Mulan and Shang's relationship nearly crumbles, the princesses elope, and Mushu redeems himself for Mulan by way of DeusExMachina, they never see the possibility that China was nearly doomed because of their own idiocy.

* {{Sequelitis}}: ''Mulan II'' is often considered to be one of the strongest contenders for one of the worst, if not the absolute worst, Disney sequels next to ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeastBellesMagicalWorld'', ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameII'' and ''WesternAnimation/CinderellaIIDreamsComeTrue''. While the movie is decently-animated, it is ultimately overlooked and criticized for the even greater liberties taken in its portrayal of Chinese culture, Mushu [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a level in jerkass]], and for leaving the plot in which Mulan must save China unresolved. The sequel earned a 0% rating on Rotten Tomatoes[[note]]but no consensus listed, as the website hasn't accumulated enough reviews to form one[[/note]], and it didn't take long after that for John Lasseter to unplug the DTV sequel machine. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ctVjc3aZnA trailer]] for the 2013 Blu-ray debut of both ''Mulan'' movies contains no clips from ''Mulan II''.

* FanonDiscontinuity: For those who feel the first film was perfect as it was and needed no sequel, especially since it rather undermines the original in many ways.I

* FanonDiscontinuity: For those who feel the first film was perfect as it was and needed no sequel, especially since it rather undermines the original in many ways.

* AccidentalAesop[=/=]UnfortunateImplications: The phrase, "my duty is to my heart," essentially equates to, "make the most self-centered choices imaginable, so long as it's what you feel your heart is telling you". Under normal circumstances, this would just be a rather unfortunate message, but in the case of the movie's ancient Chinese setting, where arranged marriage is the only option to prevent a full-on decimating war, this would be flat-out AesopCollateralDamage. As a commenter points out on [[https://youtu.be/XSXzxc7xjXk this [=YouTube=] video]]...

* HilariousInHindsight: After Mulan and Shang argue, one of the things that Mushu suggests is for Mulan to "burn his letters". Twelve years after the sequel was released, Lea Salonga, the singing voice for Mulan, would do a cover of "[[Theatre/{{Hamilton}} Burn]]", which revolves around a woman burning letters from her husband because his actions put a strain on their relationship.

* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mulan may fall into this herself owing to her SkewedPriorities in how she views the marriage that is meant to ensure the survival of her country, ironic since she's actually one of the most popular Disney Princesses of the lineup.

* BrokenBase: While much of the Disney fanbase criticizes this film for taking the complete opposite approach to the first film's aesop, it certainly does have its fans that don't see that as a bad thing.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Mulan and Shang come across Yao, Ling, and Chien Po just as they have been tossed out of a bar for creating a massive public disturbance and have been spurned by the townsfolk for their obnoxious behavior beforehand. The two couldn't have missed the racket that was going on inside the building beforehand, and they must have talked to some people in order to find them (Thus getting a chance to hear about their escapades)Do either of them call them out on their actions so they can get character development in preparation for getting girlfriends? Nope! They don't even seem a bit bothered by it. [[note]] Which creates a bit of a plot hole when the three suddenly become perfect gentlemen to the princesses and their previous selfishness is forgotten[[/note]]

* BadassDecay: Seems Shang has been demoted from GeneralBadass to buttmonkey somewhere between films, as he is much more bumbling and exhibits a good deal less common sense than he did in the previous movie; especially ironic since he arguably retains his position as the OnlySaneMan when everyone else in the group has already abandoned their commitment to the mission in hand.