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* SeasonalRot: How [[BrokenBase some fans]] view the second season. These fans tend to argue that much of what made the first season so great, such as three well-defined factions with their own internal politics and [[AntiVillain Anti Villains]], and a protagonist group of [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned Extremists]] against them, was largely discarded in the second season with one united Earth government [[spoiler:controlled by Ribbons and his personal group of followers]] that simply seems like a carbon copy of the Earth Federation from Universal Century, and [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy few sympathetic characters outside of the few left over from the first season.]]

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* SeasonalRot: How [[BrokenBase some fans]] view the second season. These fans tend to argue that much of what made the first season so great, such as three well-defined factions with their own internal politics and [[AntiVillain Anti Villains]], and a protagonist group of [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned Extremists]] against them, was largely discarded in the second season with one united Earth government [[spoiler:controlled by Ribbons and his personal group of followers]] that simply seems like a carbon copy of the Earth Federation from Universal Century, and [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy few sympathetic characters outside of the few left over from the first season.]]
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*** In [[VideoGame/SDGundamGGeneration SD Gundam G Generation Cross Rays]] (which also includes Manga/Gundam00Sidestories), the young version of Chall Acustica is voiced by the voice actress of Riko Sakurauchi from Anime/LoveLiveSunshine.
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*** Anime/LoveLiveNijigasakiHighSchoolIdolClub features an idol also named Setsuna [[spoiler:which is also, not her real name, anyway]].

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*** Anime/LoveLiveNijigasakiHighSchoolIdolClub features an idol also named Setsuna [[spoiler:which is also, not her real name, anyway]].name]].
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*** Anime/LoveLiveNijigasakiHighSchoolIdolClub features an idol also named Setsuna [[spoiler:which is not actually her real name, anyway]].

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*** Anime/LoveLiveNijigasakiHighSchoolIdolClub features an idol also named Setsuna [[spoiler:which is not actually her real name, anyway]].
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* RootingForTheEmpire: In the first seasons its a little hard to root for Celestial Being with their blithe superiority and judgemental attitude, especially given the awesome of people like Graham and Sergei ''almost'' beating the invincible Gundams. The second season makes you think this intentional as its all about Celestial Being fixing what they screwed up.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: In the first seasons its a little hard to root for Celestial Being with their blithe superiority and judgemental attitude, especially given the awesome of people like Graham and Sergei ''almost'' beating the invincible Gundams. Not to mention that Celestial Being's entire ethos of fighting to end all wars regardless of political ideologies or circumstances is incredibly naïve at best and idiotic at worst. The second season makes you think this intentional as its all about Celestial Being fixing what they screwed up.
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* MemeticMutation: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Memes/Gundam See here for the 00-based memes]].
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* {{Woolseyism}}: Characters often refer to Ali al-Saachez as "Saachez", which isn't how you would abbreviate an Arab name. The English dub corrects this to "al-Saachez".
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** The aforementioned [[WarForFunAndProfit Ali Al-Saachez]] is a sociopathic BloodKnight who [[PsychoForHire will do anything if the pay is right]], and flat out states that he's "[[CardCarryingVillain the very worst kind of person]]". Ali raised an army of ChildSoldiers while in Krugis, convincing them that every act of terrorism they committed--including murdering their own parents--was being done in the name of God--a God that Ali does not believe in. During the course of the series, he proceeds to kill off a sizeable number of characters, including Lockon I, supposed allies Michael and Johan Trinity, and Kinue Crossroad; singlehandedly burns down a country; and aids a conspiracy in a successful bid to conquer the world. Ali even goes out a bastard, dying while trying to kill a man who had just spared his life.

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** The aforementioned [[WarForFunAndProfit Ali Al-Saachez]] is a sociopathic BloodKnight who [[PsychoForHire will do anything if the pay is right]], and flat out states that he's "[[CardCarryingVillain the very worst kind of person]]". Ali raised an army of ChildSoldiers while in Krugis, convincing them that every act of terrorism they committed--including murdering their own parents--was being done in the name of God--a God that Ali does not believe in. During the course of the series, he proceeds to kill off a sizeable number of characters, including Lockon I, supposed allies Michael and Johan Trinity, and Kinue Crossroad; singlehandedly burns down a country; and aids a conspiracy in a successful bid to conquer the world. Ali even goes out a bastard, dying while trying to kill a man who had just spared his life.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: In episode 2, Celestial Being intervenes in the Sri Lankan Civil War, which is described as having lasted for hundreds of years. In real life, the conflict ended in 2009, two years after the episode aired.
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* MemeticBadass: ''[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} Prince Ali, mighty is he!]]''

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* MemeticBadass: ''[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}} Prince Ali, mighty is he!]]''
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: In episode 2, Celestial Being intervenes in the Sri Lankan Civil War, which is described as having lasted for hundreds of years. In real life, the conflict ended in 2009, two years after the episode aired.
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the Real IRA still exists


** In the first season, the Irish Republican Army and the Tamil Tigers are mentioned as still fighting, three hundred years later. Barely two years after the episode aired, the IRA ordered an end to its armed campaign and the Tamil Tigers were defeated. But it does say that the fighting has been on and off for years. So maybe justified.

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** In the first season, the Irish Republican Army and the Tamil Tigers are mentioned as still fighting, three hundred years later. Barely two years after the episode aired, the IRA ordered an end to its armed campaign they were defeated and the Tamil Tigers were defeated.Sri Lankan Civil War was ended. But it does say that the fighting has been on and off for years. So maybe justified.
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** Wang Liu Mei real motive and characterization is highly debatable too. 1.) Is she a pure ChaoticGood character who care about the future? 2.)Is she a ChaoticNeutral whocare nothing but [[ItsAllAboutMe about herself]] [[IJustWantToBeSpecial to be special]] in the world ? 3.) A delusional TheSociopath ManipulativeBitch who is as worse as Ali al-Saachez?

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** Wang Liu Mei Mei's real motive and characterization is highly debatable too. 1.) Is she a pure ChaoticGood character who care cares about the future? 2.)Is ) Is she a ChaoticNeutral whocare character who cares about nothing but [[ItsAllAboutMe about herself]] and only [[IJustWantToBeSpecial wants to be seen as special]] in the world ? world, no matter what? 3.) A delusional TheSociopath delusional, [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] ManipulativeBitch who is as worse bad as Ali al-Saachez?
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* ToughActToFollow: Regarding the model kits, the Perfect Grade Gundam Exia is highly regarded as the best among other Perfect Grades thanks to it's intricate and complex engineering that [[UpToEleven topped off every other Perfect Grade release]] as for now, so much to the point that many would consider that every succeeding Perfect Grade releases is going to be held at high standard that there's no way Bandai would be able to top themselves off.

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** Out of all [=Setsuna's=] mobile suit, Exia is essentially the most popular of the bunch, thanks to it's intricate and stylish design that even non-gundam fans agreed that it looked cool, to the point that [[spoiler:it appeared at the end of Season 2 going up against [=Ribbon's=] O Gundam]]. Fans weren't as pleased when the initial High Grade model kit and the Master Grade didn't do enough justice, but the design was popular enough that Bandai released a pretty good Real Grade and later an amazing Perfect Grade that topped-off the competition.



* TheScrappy: Even with Louise Halevy's heartbreaking tragedy, she lost some sympathisers by giving into HeWhoFightsMonsters and joining the villainous A-LAWS. In other cases, some fans don't like her either because she killed Nena, tried to kill Saji, or became a love interest to Andrei for a time. Of course, given the events during the two's only encounter in Season 2, a few fans wound up hating both Nena and Louise in the end.

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* TheScrappy: Even with Louise Halevy's heartbreaking tragedy, she lost some sympathisers by giving into HeWhoFightsMonsters [[HeWhoFightsMonsters her own desire for revenge]] and joining the villainous A-LAWS. In other cases, some fans don't like her either because she killed Nena, tried to kill Saji, or became a love interest to Andrei for a time. Of course, given the events during the two's only encounter in Season 2, a few fans wound up hating both Nena and Louise in the end.

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** Despite a series of unfortunate events hitting them, [[TookALevelInJerkass Louise]] and [[CuteAndPsycho Nena]] ended up being this due to their questionable portrayals throughout the series, ''especially'' during season 2.
*** The novel adaptation try to justified Nena's morality due to being raised as nothing but living instrument who only taught about fighting and has no taught about basic humans morality. While she get some TraumaCongaLine and redeemed moment like providing Celestial Being about Allelujah whereabouts, helping Katharon to send them a supplies, and kill Wang Liu Mei for her action, it never get help to make her sympathetic character.
*** [[spoiler:Louise supposedly a Tragic AntiVillain due to Innovator manipulation and her tragedy that caused by Nena four years ago. Even thought Saji always try hard to make her abandon her quest to revenge, instead of hearing him, she keep following Andrei and Ribbons statement, and make her condition become worsening.]]

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** Despite Nena Trinity is intended to be seen as a series TragicVillain who was [[{{Tykebomb}} raised specifically for the sole purpose of unfortunate events hitting them, [[TookALevelInJerkass Louise]] killing]] and [[CuteAndPsycho Nena]] ended up being this due starts to their questionable portrayals throughout pull a HeelFaceTurn in the series, ''especially'' during second season 2.
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after her TraumaCongaLine. The novel adaptation try to justified Nena's morality due to being raised as nothing but living instrument who problem is that her origin is [[AllThereInTheManual only taught about fighting hinted at in side materials]], meaning that as far as viewers of the show alone are concerned, she doesn't appear to have a FreudianExcuse and has no taught about basic humans morality. While [[{{Jerkass}} is just a dick because she get some TraumaCongaLine and redeemed moment like providing Celestial Being about Allelujah whereabouts, helping Katharon to send them a supplies, and kill Wang Liu Mei for her action, it is]]. Even then, she is never get help shown to make regret any of her sympathetic character.
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past actions or develop out of her CuteAndPsycho personality, making [[spoiler:her death come off as a Tragic case of AssholeVictim rather than a case of HeelFaceDoorSlam]].
** Louise in the second season is meant to be seen as [[spoiler:a tragic
AntiVillain due to Innovator manipulation misguided by revenge and her manipulated by the Innovators after the tragedy that Nena caused by Nena four years ago. Even thought Saji always try hard to make her abandon her quest to revenge, instead of hearing him, she keep following Andrei and her. However, although we are given hints that the medication Ribbons statement, gives her plays a big part in her SanitySlippage and make Andrei's involvement certainly doesn't help, because she willingly joined the A-Laws as opposed to being forced as part of Ribbon's plan, it is up to interpretation about how many of her condition become worsening.morally gray actions are a result of brainwashing and how many of them are her own choice. Not helping matters is that her [[TheAtoner attempts to atone for her actions]] happen entirely offscreen, making her come off as too EasilyForgiven.]]
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*** The novel adaptation try to justified Nena's morality due to being raised as nothing but living instrument who only taught about fighting and has no taught about basic humans morality. While she get some TraumaCongaLine and redeemed moment like providing Celestial Being about Allelujah whereabouts, helping Katharon to send them a supplies, and kill Wang Liu Mei for her action, it never get help to make her sympathetic character.
*** [[spoiler:Louise supposedly a Tragic AntiVillain due to Innovator manipulation and her tragedy that caused by Nena four years ago. Even thought Saji always try hard to make her abandon her quest to revenge, instead of hearing him, she keep following Andrei and Ribbons statement, and make her condition become worsening.]]

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Hallelujah Haptism, Ali al-Saachez, the Trinities, Alejandro, and even Ribbons.

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Hallelujah Haptism, Haptism tends to be portrayed to remove the "evil" part.
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Ali al-Saachez, al-Saachez [[CardCarryingVillain gladly admits that he's the Trinities, Alejandro, and even Ribbons.worst kind of human to exist]], but good luck telling some fans that.
** The Trinities have sympathetic qualities, but they're also SiblingsInCrime who remorselessly-kill lots of people.
** Alejandro. Sure, [[spoiler:he was manipulated by Ribbons]], but [[KickTheSonOfABitch it's not like he was a good person]].
** Ribbons. Pretty sure that a selfish egomaniac who kills millions of people to advance his own agenda [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist isn't someone with good intentions]].



** Ali al-Saachez could have been a better main antagonist of the entire series, given that he remorselessly killed dozens of characters such as Neil Dylandy, Michael and Johan Trinity, and Kinue Crossroad. Rather than ultimately serving as the Innovator's willing pawn, he could have turned against Ribbons and the rest of the Innovators to continue his rampage against Celestial Being (and to an extent, the Earth Sphere Federation, the Union, Human Reform League, and A-LAWS) to finish what he started.

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** Many fans expressed disappointment at Ali al-Saachez could have been al-Saachez's VillainDecay in the second season, feeling that he had the setup for a better great main antagonist of the entire series, given that he remorselessly killed dozens of characters such as Neil [[spoiler:Neil Dylandy, Michael and Johan Trinity, and Kinue Crossroad. Rather than ultimately serving as Crossroad]] and had already proven to be a huge threat. Even in the Innovator's willing pawn, role that he was given, [[TheStarscream he could have turned against Ribbons and the rest of the Innovators Innovators]] to continue his rampage against Celestial Being (and to an extent, the Earth Sphere Federation, the Union, Human Reform League, and A-LAWS) to finish what he started.started. Instead, he more or less serves as the Innovator's willing pawn without much extra focus.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Even for those that despise her, there had to have been a point for Nena Trinity to survive Season 1. During the few moments she was seen in Season 2, it appeared that she was developing a conscience and becoming less insane, albeit through a process of ego and seeing even worse individuals, and even did some good for a change by [[spoiler:helping Celestial Being destroy Memento Mori and killing Wang Liu Mei]]. Unfortunately, the Nena/Louise dynamic was never fully explored beyond all the ways Louise wanted Nena to suffer, and ultimately, instead of a grand confrontation where either Nena realizes the horror that others have been put through or Louise realizing [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim the folly of wanton revenge before it was too late]], we saw [[spoiler:Louise take out Nena with ease]], which makes you wonder what was the point of even developing Nena's character in the first place.

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Even for those that despise her, there had to have been a point for Nena Trinity to survive Season 1. During the few moments she was seen in Season 2, it appeared that she was developing a conscience and becoming less insane, albeit through a process of ego and seeing even worse individuals, and even did some good for a change by [[spoiler:helping Celestial Being destroy Memento Mori and killing Wang Liu Mei]]. Unfortunately, the Nena/Louise dynamic was never fully explored beyond all the ways Louise wanted Nena to suffer, and ultimately, instead of a grand confrontation where either Nena realizes the horror that others have been put through or Louise realizing [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim the folly of wanton revenge before it was too late]], we saw [[spoiler:Louise take out Nena with ease]], which makes you wonder what was the point of even developing Nena's character in the first place.
** Ali al-Saachez could have been a better main antagonist of the entire series, given that he remorselessly killed dozens of characters such as Neil Dylandy, Michael and Johan Trinity, and Kinue Crossroad. Rather than ultimately serving as the Innovator's willing pawn, he could have turned against Ribbons and the rest of the Innovators to continue his rampage against Celestial Being (and to an extent, the Earth Sphere Federation, the Union, Human Reform League, and A-LAWS) to finish what he started.
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** Andrei Smirnov absolutely unlikable character in season 2 since his debut. His character got worsening after he killing [[spoiler:his own father]] and [[spoiler:provoke Louise to follow his footstep by killing Saji]] obly to proved that he indeed care and love her so much. His HeelRealization and his HeroicSacrifice are not helping to redeem his character because he didn't even feel remorse to killing his father's friend and attempt to try to steal the other person girlfriend by provoke her to follow his footstep.



** [[spoiler:Louise Halevy]]. She already not so popular due to being minor character. Making her into [[spoiler:enemy controlled puppet, vengeful AxCrazy DarkActionGirl and their financiers]] is make fandom see her as a cheap copy-carbon of Shinn Asuka from Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny.
*** [[spoiler:After she gain Innovade's power from Ribbons, fans also feel making her into [[PhlebotinumGirl a Cyber-Newtype like character]] is way too forceful since they already have '''FIVE'''[[note]](So)Marie, (H)Allelujah and the Trinities[[/note]] character who share same characteristic with the other Cyber-Newtype like character.]]

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** Andrei Smirnov absolutely unlikable character in season 2 since his debut. His character got worsening after he killing [[spoiler:his own father]]and [[spoiler:provoke Louise to follow his footstep by killing Saji]] obly to proved that he indeed care and love her so much. His HeelRealization and his HeroicSacrifice are not helping to redeem his character because he didn't even feel remorse to killing his father's friend and attempt to try to steal the other person girlfriend by provoke her to follow his footstep.

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** Andrei Smirnov absolutely unlikable character in season 2 since his debut. His character got worsening after he killing [[spoiler:his own father]]and father]] and [[spoiler:provoke Louise to follow his footstep by killing Saji]] obly to proved that he indeed care and love her so much. His HeelRealization and his HeroicSacrifice are not helping to redeem his character because he didn't even feel remorse to killing his father's friend and attempt to try to steal the other person girlfriend by provoke her to follow his footstep.



** [[spoiler:Louise Halevy]]. She already not so popular due to being minor character. Making her into [[spoiler:enemy controlled puppet, vengeful AxCrazy DarkActionGirl and their financiers]] is making fandom see her as a cheap copy-carbon of Shinn Asuka from Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny.
* BrokenBase: Is the second season [[GrowingTheBeard better than]], on par with, or [[SeasonalRot worse than]] the first season?

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** [[spoiler:Louise Halevy]]. She already not so popular due to being minor character. Making her into [[spoiler:enemy controlled puppet, vengeful AxCrazy DarkActionGirl and their financiers]] is making make fandom see her as a cheap copy-carbon of Shinn Asuka from Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny.
*** [[spoiler:After she gain Innovade's power from Ribbons, fans also feel making her into [[PhlebotinumGirl a Cyber-Newtype like character]] is way too forceful since they already have '''FIVE'''[[note]](So)Marie, (H)Allelujah and the Trinities[[/note]] character who share same characteristic with the other Cyber-Newtype like character.]]
* BrokenBase: Is the second season [[GrowingTheBeard better than]], on par with, or [[SeasonalRot worse than]] than the first season?season?]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Aeolia Schenberg a visionary who sought to bring about a world devoid of war or was he just a narcissist and hypocrite with a messiah complex? He achieves his end goal by simply having BiggerStick despite not even liking humanity to begin with, but the rationale only brought on later in ''Anime/Gundam00AWakeningOfTheTrailblazer'' meant he had to act now or there won't be anything left.

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Is Aeolia Schenberg a visionary who sought to bring about a world devoid of war or was he just a narcissist and hypocrite with a messiah complex? He achieves his end goal by simply having BiggerStick despite not even liking humanity to begin with, but the rationale only brought on later in ''Anime/Gundam00AWakeningOfTheTrailblazer'' meant he had to act now or there won't be anything left.left.
** Wang Liu Mei real motive and characterization is highly debatable too. 1.) Is she a pure ChaoticGood character who care about the future? 2.)Is she a ChaoticNeutral whocare nothing but [[ItsAllAboutMe about herself]] [[IJustWantToBeSpecial to be special]] in the world ? 3.) A delusional TheSociopath ManipulativeBitch who is as worse as Ali al-Saachez?



** Andrei Smirnov absolutely unlikable character in season 2 since his debut. His character got worsening after he killing [[spoiler:his own father]]and [[spoiler:provoke Louise to follow his footstep by killing Saji]] obly to proved that he indeed care and love her so much. Fans also feel his HeelRealization and his HeroicSacrifice are way too forceful.
** [[spoiler:Louise Halevy]]. She already not so popular due to being minor character. Making her into [[spoiler:enemy controlled puppet, vengeful AxCrazy DarkActionGirl and their financiers]] is making fandom feel she is as bad as Shinn Asuka from Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny.

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** Andrei Smirnov absolutely unlikable character in season 2 since his debut. His character got worsening after he killing [[spoiler:his own father]]and [[spoiler:provoke Louise to follow his footstep by killing Saji]] obly to proved that he indeed care and love her so much. Fans also feel his His HeelRealization and his HeroicSacrifice are way too forceful.
not helping to redeem his character because he didn't even feel remorse to killing his father's friend and attempt to try to steal the other person girlfriend by provoke her to follow his footstep.
** Wang Liu Mei. Some fans are cool with her due to her ChaoticNeutral side but some of them feel she just a immature hypocritical and manipulative RichBitch.
** [[spoiler:Louise Halevy]]. She already not so popular due to being minor character. Making her into [[spoiler:enemy controlled puppet, vengeful AxCrazy DarkActionGirl and their financiers]] is making fandom feel she is see her as bad as a cheap copy-carbon of Shinn Asuka from Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Lyle. To one group, he is a great {{Deconstruction}} of the BackupTwin trope and a suitable replacement for [[spoiler:Neil]]. To the other group, he is a ReplacementScrappy whose introduction cheapens [[spoiler:Lockon]]'s death and is either too similar or too different from his predecessor.

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** Lyle Dylandy.
To one group, he is a great {{Deconstruction}} of the BackupTwin trope and a suitable replacement for [[spoiler:Neil]]. To the other group, he is a ReplacementScrappy whose introduction cheapens [[spoiler:Lockon]]'s death and is either too similar or too different from his predecessor.predecessor.
** Andrei Smirnov absolutely unlikable character in season 2 since his debut. His character got worsening after he killing [[spoiler:his own father]]and [[spoiler:provoke Louise to follow his footstep by killing Saji]] obly to proved that he indeed care and love her so much. Fans also feel his HeelRealization and his HeroicSacrifice are way too forceful.
** [[spoiler:Louise Halevy]]. She already not so popular due to being minor character. Making her into [[spoiler:enemy controlled puppet, vengeful AxCrazy DarkActionGirl and their financiers]] is making fandom feel she is as bad as Shinn Asuka from Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Basic rule of life even in 2307: don't take a ride in a stranger's car. [[spoiler:See what happened to poor Kinue when she gets into Ali Al-Saachez's car?]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Lyle. To one group, he is a great {{Deconstruction}} of the BackupTwin trope and a suitable replacement for [[spoiler:Neil]]. To the other group, he is a ReplacementScrappy whose introduction cheapens [[spoiler:Lockon]]'s death and is either too similar or too different from his predecessor.



* GrowingTheBeard: How [[BrokenBase some fans]] view the second season. These fans feel that the show got stronger story, development, and fight scenes at this point.



* SeasonalRot: How [[BrokenBase some fans]] view the second season. These fans tend to argue that much of what made the first season so great, such as three well-defined factions with their own internal politics and [[AntiVillain Anti Villains]], and a protagonist group of [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned Extremists]] against them, was largely discarded in the second season with one united Earth government [[spoiler:controlled by Ribbons and his personal group of followers]] that simply seems like a carbon copy of the Earth Federation from Universal Century, and [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy few sympathetic characters outside of the few left over from the first season.]]



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Even for those that despise her, there had to have been a point for Nena Trinity to survive Season 1. During the few moments she was seen in Season 2, it appeared that she was developing a conscience and becoming less insane, albeit through a process of ego and seeing even worse individuals, and even did some good for a change by helping Celestial Being destroy Memento Mori and killing Wang Liu Mei. Unfortunately, the Nena/Louise dynamic was never fully explored beyond all the ways Louise wanted Nena to suffer, and ultimately, instead of a grand confrontation where either Nena realizes the horror that others have been put through or Louise realizing [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim the folly of wanton revenge before it was too late]], we saw Louise figuratively [[StuffedIntoTheFridge stuff Nena into a fridge]] with ease, which makes you wonder what was the point of even developing Nena's character in the first place.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some argue that much of what made the first season so great, such as three well-defined factions with their own internal politics and [[AntiVillain Anti Villains]], and a protagonist group of [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned Extremists]] against them, was largely discarded in the second season with one united Earth government [[spoiler:controlled by Ribbons and his personal group of followers]] that simply seems like a carbon copy of the Earth Federation from Universal Century, and [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy few sympathetic characters outside of the few left over from the first season.]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Even for those that despise her, there had to have been a point for Nena Trinity to survive Season 1. During the few moments she was seen in Season 2, it appeared that she was developing a conscience and becoming less insane, albeit through a process of ego and seeing even worse individuals, and even did some good for a change by helping [[spoiler:helping Celestial Being destroy Memento Mori and killing Wang Liu Mei. Mei]]. Unfortunately, the Nena/Louise dynamic was never fully explored beyond all the ways Louise wanted Nena to suffer, and ultimately, instead of a grand confrontation where either Nena realizes the horror that others have been put through or Louise realizing [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim the folly of wanton revenge before it was too late]], we saw Louise figuratively [[StuffedIntoTheFridge stuff [[spoiler:Louise take out Nena into a fridge]] with ease, ease]], which makes you wonder what was the point of even developing Nena's character in the first place.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some argue that much of what made the first season so great, such as three well-defined factions with their own internal politics and [[AntiVillain Anti Villains]], and a protagonist group of [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned Extremists]] against them, was largely discarded in the second season with one united Earth government [[spoiler:controlled by Ribbons and his personal group of followers]] that simply seems like a carbon copy of the Earth Federation from Universal Century, and [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy few sympathetic characters outside of the few left over from the first season.]]
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Interntet Backdraft being dewicked per TRS.


* InternetBackdraft:
** Most of the merchandise released for the series' 10th Anniversary: While the fans praised the [=PG=] Gundam Exia, their expectations for the other Mobile Suits (Dynames, Kyrios, Virtue) being made as Master Grade (and ''even'' Real Grades) kits (similar to the the ones for ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed'''s 10th Anniversary) was ultimately destroyed after Bandai re-released the HG 00 Gundam in "10th Anniversary" colors (and by extension, the upcoming [=Megahouse=] Gundam Guys Generation Lockon Stratos PVC statue), and reuses the mold for one of the kits featured in the Anime/GundamBuildDivers series, and all of the Season 1 & 2 Gundams are re-released in clear plastic molding as an exclusive for The Gundam Base.
*** Later subverted as the Master Grade iteration of Gundam Dynames is announced at a model kit fair in October 28.
** A certain clique of the fandom refuses to acknowledge the upcoming stage play with Live-action casts of the characters, which almost reminded them of ''Film/GSaviour''.
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** The aforementioned [[WarForFunAndProfit Ali Al-Saachez]] is a sociopathic BloodKnight who [[PsychoForHire will do anything if the pay is right]], and flat out states that he's "[[CardCarryingVillain the worst kind of person]]". Ali raised an army of ChildSoldiers while in Krugis, convincing them that every act of terrorism they committed--including murdering their own parents--was being done in the name of God--a God that Ali does not believe in. During the course of the series, he proceeds to kill off a sizeable number of characters, including Lockon I, supposed allies Michael and Johan Trinity, and Kinue Crossroad; singlehandedly burns down a country; and aids a conspiracy in a successful bid to conquer the world. Ali even goes out a bastard, dying while trying to kill a man who had just spared his life.

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** The aforementioned [[WarForFunAndProfit Ali Al-Saachez]] is a sociopathic BloodKnight who [[PsychoForHire will do anything if the pay is right]], and flat out states that he's "[[CardCarryingVillain the very worst kind of person]]". Ali raised an army of ChildSoldiers while in Krugis, convincing them that every act of terrorism they committed--including murdering their own parents--was being done in the name of God--a God that Ali does not believe in. During the course of the series, he proceeds to kill off a sizeable number of characters, including Lockon I, supposed allies Michael and Johan Trinity, and Kinue Crossroad; singlehandedly burns down a country; and aids a conspiracy in a successful bid to conquer the world. Ali even goes out a bastard, dying while trying to kill a man who had just spared his life.
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** Andrei Smirnov is supposed to be a misguided character but still be a caring man who is concerned about [[spoiler:Louise]] health and understand her before her reunite with Saji. However, everything that Andrei did to [[spoiler:Louise]] never made her become positive. At worse, he wanted [[spoiler:Louise]] to follow in his footsteps by [[spoiler:killing Saji]], pointing out that he is a "BastardBoyfriend" and "traitor" like Sergei, who deserved to be killed. All of this merely because he wants to prove that he is "caring", wants to "protect" her and win her heart. In fact, [[spoiler:Louise]] only treats him as a comrade, never seeing him as more than a friend, and sometimes being absolutely annoyed with his attitude.

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** Andrei Smirnov is supposed to be a misguided character but still be a caring man who is concerned about [[spoiler:Louise]] health and understand her before her reunite with Saji. However, everything that Andrei did to [[spoiler:Louise]] never made her become positive. At worse, he wanted [[spoiler:Louise]] to follow in his footsteps by [[spoiler:killing Saji]], pointing out that he is a "BastardBoyfriend" and "traitor" like Sergei, [[spoiler:Sergei]], who deserved to be killed. All of this merely because he wants to prove that he is "caring", wants to "protect" her and win her heart. In fact, [[spoiler:Louise]] only treats him as a comrade, never seeing him as more than a friend, and sometimes being absolutely annoyed with his attitude. [[spoiler:While Andrei gets a HeelRealization over killing his father mistaking him for a traitor, he never shows regret over similarly killing his fathers friend, who help Andrei get into the military, in violation of a cease-fire.]]
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That part it intentional unsympathetic, given his eventual My God What Have I Done


** Andrei Smirnov is supposed to be a misguided character but still be a caring man who is concerned about [[spoiler:Louise]] health and understand her before her reunite with Saji. However, everything that Andrei did to [[spoiler:Louise]] never made her become positive. At worse, he wanted [[spoiler:Louise]] to follow in his footsteps by [[spoiler:killing Saji]], pointing out that he is a "BastardBoyfriend" and "traitor" like Sergei, who deserved to be killed. All of this merely because he wants to prove that he is "caring", wants to "protect" her and win her heart. In fact, [[spoiler:Louise]] only treats him as a comrade, never seeing him as more than a friend, and sometimes being absolutely annoyed with his attitude. While he did pull his HeelRealization and realized his own sin, let's not forget this man literally kill his own father and a man who helped him to enter military out of furious mistaken them as the traitor, and provoke a mental-unstable girl to follow his sadistic footstep.

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** Andrei Smirnov is supposed to be a misguided character but still be a caring man who is concerned about [[spoiler:Louise]] health and understand her before her reunite with Saji. However, everything that Andrei did to [[spoiler:Louise]] never made her become positive. At worse, he wanted [[spoiler:Louise]] to follow in his footsteps by [[spoiler:killing Saji]], pointing out that he is a "BastardBoyfriend" and "traitor" like Sergei, who deserved to be killed. All of this merely because he wants to prove that he is "caring", wants to "protect" her and win her heart. In fact, [[spoiler:Louise]] only treats him as a comrade, never seeing him as more than a friend, and sometimes being absolutely annoyed with his attitude. While he did pull his HeelRealization and realized his own sin, let's not forget this man literally kill his own father and a man who helped him to enter military out of furious mistaken them as the traitor, and provoke a mental-unstable girl to follow his sadistic footstep.

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