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** Plenty of ''Miraculous'' fans are also fans of one or both of the two major American comic book franchises (Franchise/TheDCU and the Franchise/MarvelUniverse). This especially applies to the overlap between ''Miraculous'' fans and Franchise/{{Batman}} fans, which came to major attention with the popularity of the ''Fanfic/MaribatAU''.

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** Plenty of ''Miraculous'' fans are also fans of one or both of the two major American comic book franchises (Franchise/TheDCU and the Franchise/MarvelUniverse). This especially applies to the overlap between ''Miraculous'' fans and Franchise/{{Batman}} ComicBook/{{Batman}} fans, which came to major attention with the popularity of the ''Fanfic/MaribatAU''.
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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado'' on weekday afternoons (except on the Tuesdays and Thursdays slots recently where it got replaced with WesternAnimation/SonicBoom).

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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado'' on weekday afternoons (except on the Tuesdays and Thursdays slots recently where it got replaced with WesternAnimation/SonicBoom).''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom'').
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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado''.

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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado''.''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado'' on weekday afternoons (except on the Tuesdays and Thursdays slots recently where it got replaced with WesternAnimation/SonicBoom).
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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarepants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado''.

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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarepants'', ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado''.
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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarepants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado''.
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** Another aspect of Ladybug and Cat Noir's inequality is their powersets, which have been unbalanced from the outset. Ladybug can summon something designed to help defeat the villain(s), purify magically charged beings, and undo all consequences of the battle with very few exceptions. Cat Noir can break one object, and this power doesn't have the same tide-turning guarantee as the Lucky Charm. At this point, it was expected, since the show seemed to have a “one power per Miraculous” rule in effect, that made this dynamic easily accepted, especially since the heroes were shown to be capable of using their powers creatively. Her later powers, like accessing the Miracle Box through her yo-yo and creating Magical Charms, however only stuck out more due to growing complaints over the show's treatment of Adrien, since the show decided that the only other character to get a similar buff in powers available was the BigBad, creating a notable case of CantCatchUp, not helped by several episodes where Cataclysm wasn’t required, making Chat Noir seem more superfluous, beyond being a LivingMcGuffin.

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** Another aspect of Ladybug and Cat Noir's inequality is their powersets, which have been unbalanced from the outset. Ladybug can summon something designed to help defeat the villain(s), purify magically charged beings, and undo all consequences of the battle with very few exceptions. Cat Noir can break one object, and this power doesn't have the same tide-turning guarantee as the Lucky Charm. At this point, it was expected, since the show seemed to have a “one power per Miraculous” rule in effect, that made this dynamic easily accepted, especially since the heroes were shown to be capable of using their powers creatively. Her later powers, like accessing the Miracle Box through her yo-yo and creating Magical Charms, however only stuck out more due to growing complaints over the show's treatment of Adrien, since the show decided that the only other character to get a similar buff in powers available was the BigBad, creating a notable case of CantCatchUp, not helped by several episodes where Cataclysm wasn’t required, making Chat Cat Noir seem more superfluous, beyond being a LivingMcGuffin.
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** Another aspect of Ladybug and Cat Noir's inequality is their powersets, which have been unbalanced from the outset. Ladybug can summon something designed to help defeat the villain(s), purify magically charged beings, and undo all consequences of the battle with very few exceptions. Cat Noir can break one object, and this power doesn't have the same tide-turning guarantee as the Lucky Charm. It would have made more sense if the Cat had purification--destroying magical energy--and the Miraculous superpower were split between the duo, with Ladybug recreating anything damaged in the fight, and Cat Noir destroying villains' magical creations. Instead, most of the power was concentrated in the Ladybug Miraculous, forcing Cat Noir to sacrifice himself to protect Ladybug. Her later powers, like accessing the Miracle Box through her yo-yo and creating Magical Charms, only stuck out more due to growing complaints over the show's treatment of Adrien.

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** Another aspect of Ladybug and Cat Noir's inequality is their powersets, which have been unbalanced from the outset. Ladybug can summon something designed to help defeat the villain(s), purify magically charged beings, and undo all consequences of the battle with very few exceptions. Cat Noir can break one object, and this power doesn't have the same tide-turning guarantee as the Lucky Charm. It would At this point, it was expected, since the show seemed to have made more sense if the Cat had purification--destroying magical energy--and the Miraculous superpower were split between the duo, with Ladybug recreating anything damaged in the fight, and Cat Noir destroying villains' magical creations. Instead, most of the a “one power was concentrated per Miraculous” rule in effect, that made this dynamic easily accepted, especially since the Ladybug Miraculous, forcing Cat Noir heroes were shown to sacrifice himself to protect Ladybug. be capable of using their powers creatively. Her later powers, like accessing the Miracle Box through her yo-yo and creating Magical Charms, however only stuck out more due to growing complaints over the show's treatment of Adrien.Adrien, since the show decided that the only other character to get a similar buff in powers available was the BigBad, creating a notable case of CantCatchUp, not helped by several episodes where Cataclysm wasn’t required, making Chat Noir seem more superfluous, beyond being a LivingMcGuffin.
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** While Hawk Moth's original design was well-liked, a number of fans felt [[spoiler:his costume change as Shadow Moth was a bit of a downgrade, largely thanks to the feather-monocle thing now attached to his mask. His costume as Monarch has gotten an even worse reception and lots of ridicule, due to a combination of him wearing all the Miraculouses and his chosen color scheme.]]

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** While Hawk Moth's original design was well-liked, a number of fans felt [[spoiler:his costume change as Shadow Moth was a bit of a downgrade, largely thanks to the feather-monocle thing now attached to his mask. His costume as Monarch has gotten an even worse reception and lots of ridicule, due to a combination of him wearing all the Miraculouses and his chosen color scheme.]]]] His second Monarch costume was much better received, though some had wished he had simply reverted back to his original Hawk Moth costume.
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** Another aspect of Ladybug and Cat Noir's inequality is their powersets, which have been unbalanced from the outset. Ladybug can summon something designed to help defeat the villain(s), purify magically charged beings, and undo all consequences of the battle with very few exceptions. Cat Noir can break one object, and this power doesn't have the same tide-turning guarantee as the Lucky Charm. It would have made more sense if the Cat had purification--destroying magical energy--and the Miraculous superpower were split between the duo, with Ladybug recreating anything damaged in the fight, and Cat Noir destroying villains' magical creations. Instead, most of the power was concentrated in the Ladybug Miraculous, forcing Cat Noir to sacrifice himself to protect Ladybug. Her later powers, like accessing the Miracle Box through her yo-yo and creating Magical Charms, only stuck out more due to growing complaints over the show's treatment of Adrien.
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** Fans also feel that the constant addition of new Miraculous Heroes as the show goes on is starting to be a bit too much. Season 2 started this trend with the introductions of Alya/Rena Rouge, Nino/Carapace, Chloé/Queen Bee, and Nathalie/Mayura. There wasn't much fuss over it as all four were major supporting characters and the episodes were spaced out enough for some breathing room. Chloé in particular, had an arc focused on her and her backstory so her being accepted as a new hero in ''Maledictator'' felt meaningful. Season 3 introduced five more with Luka/Viperion, Kagami/Ryuko, Max/Pegasus, Alix/Bunnix, and Kim/King Monkey. It wasn't too bad here, although Party Crasher was considered to be a very weak episode. Season 4 would be when fans would start to put their foot down as no more than eight new heroes were introduced, with half of them debuting in the same episode and not even having time for transformation sequences to boot. Zoé is also considered a sour spot as she automatically becomes a hero one episode after her debut episode despite other characters being around for seasons longer.

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** Fans also feel that the constant addition of new Miraculous Heroes as the show goes on is starting to be a bit too much. Season 2 started this trend with the introductions of Alya/Rena Rouge, Nino/Carapace, Chloé/Queen Bee, and Nathalie/Mayura. Bee. There wasn't much fuss over it as all four were major supporting characters and the episodes were spaced out enough for some breathing room.room, and it helped that they were later balanced out by an additional Miraculous wielder on the villains' side, with Nathalie becoming Mayura at the end of the season. Chloé in particular, had an arc focused on her and her backstory so her being accepted as a new hero in ''Maledictator'' felt meaningful. Season 3 introduced five more with Luka/Viperion, Kagami/Ryuko, Max/Pegasus, Alix/Bunnix, and Kim/King Monkey. It wasn't too bad here, although Party Crasher was considered to be a very weak episode. Season 4 would be when fans would start to put their foot down as no more than eight new heroes were introduced, with half of them debuting in the same episode and not even having time for transformation sequences to boot. Zoé is also considered a sour spot as she automatically becomes a hero one episode after her debut episode despite other characters being around for seasons longer.
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** By the time season 4 and 5 rolled around, many fans cried afoul of the fact that Adrien/Cat Noir felt like a waste of a character, since not only did Ladybug get the most share of development and importance in a story arc centered around ''his'' family, but he more often than not was made to look weaker than Ladybug despite the two supposedly being equals. However, this has been the case since the beginning of the show; whenever Ladybug and Cat Noir faced an akumatized villain in the earlier seasons, there was a high chance that Cat Noir would either be thrown around like a ragdoll by the villain, or be subjected to their powers in order to take him out of the equation, leaving Ladybug alone to defeat the villain. Back then, however, these moments would generally be balanced by him not only managing to contribute towards a later villain's defeat, but the power between the two heroes was more evenly balanced, and was clear that even if Ladybug did most of the work, they needed each other at the end of the day. However, as the seasons went on and Ladybug got more power ups, the position of Guardian, not to mention more heroes were thrown into the mix, Cat Noir was left in the dust, being unable to catch up to most of them outside of specific circumstances, and once the Agreste Family arc began to wrap up, his tendency to lose and be made a fool off could no longer be justified or ignored.
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** By the end of season 5, Félix Agreste is ultimately portrayed as a true hero who, like the rest of Marinette's allies, [[spoiler:deserves to keep his Miraculous permanently]]...which ignores the fact that he essentially caused season 5's plot to happen by [[spoiler:willingly delivering all the Miraculouses sans Ladybug and Cat Noir's to the BigBad so he can get the Peacock Miraculous]]. And the fact that, not only did he never get a proper moment to atone for this, but that he continued to do morally-questionable things throughout season 5, including [[spoiler:using a sentimonster to wipe multiple people from existence]]. Needless to say, a number of fans didn't exactly buy it.

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** By the end of season 5, Félix Agreste Fathom is ultimately portrayed as a true hero who, like the rest of Marinette's allies, [[spoiler:deserves to keep his Miraculous permanently]]...which ignores the fact that he essentially caused season 5's plot to happen by [[spoiler:willingly delivering all the Miraculouses sans Ladybug and Cat Noir's to the BigBad so he can get the Peacock Miraculous]]. And the fact that, not only did he never get a proper moment to atone for this, but that he continued to do morally-questionable things throughout season 5, including [[spoiler:using a sentimonster to wipe multiple people from existence]]. Needless to say, a number of fans didn't exactly buy it.
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** Plenty of ''Miraculous'' fans are also fans of one or both of the two major American comic book franchises (Franchise/TheDCU and the Franchise/MarvelUniverse). This especially applies to the overlap between ''Miraculous'' fans and Franchise/{{Batman}} fans, which came to major attention with the popularity of the ''Fanfic/MaribatAU''.
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** Nino was the only one of the main characters who hadn't fallen into BaseBreakingCharacter territory for the first three seasons thanks to his positive attitude, his overall healthy and supportive friendship with Adrien and getting the Turtle Miraculous, which made him a fan favorite. But from fourth season he began to gain detractors, starting with "Rocketear" where he stalks Alya and gets akumatized by a meaningless misunderstanding, in addition to revealing his identity as Carapace and Rena Rouge’s identity to Adrien. He later becomes more of a jerk in later episodes, such as in “Illusion” where he goes over-the-top with his plan to defeat Monarch, and he deliberately gets someone akumatized for it, getting his best friend in trouble with his father.

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** Nino was the only one of the main characters who hadn't fallen into BaseBreakingCharacter territory for the first three seasons thanks to his positive attitude, his overall healthy and supportive friendship with Adrien and getting the Turtle Miraculous, which made him a fan favorite. But from the fourth season onwards, he began to gain detractors, detractors thanks to a combination of factors; part of it was him [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a level in jerkass]] starting with from "Rocketear" where onward (where he stalks suddenly became a CrazyJealousGuy over Alya and gets akumatized by a meaningless misunderstanding, in addition to revealing his identity as Carapace and Rena Rouge’s revealed her secret identity to Adrien. He later becomes Adrien without her consent), part of it was fans re-analyzing his character and realizing he didn't have a lot going for him outside of being Adrien's TokenBlackFriend. Nowadays, while it hasn't reached the same heights as the other characters, he's much more of a jerk in later episodes, such as in “Illusion” where base-breaker to the fandom than he goes over-the-top with his plan to defeat Monarch, and he deliberately gets someone akumatized for it, getting his best friend in trouble with his father.was previously.

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* DesignatedHero: Ms. Bustier is meant to be seen as a CoolTeacher whom everyone (including [[AlphaBitch Chloé]]) loves and is fair to her students. However, the fact that she's fallen victim to AdultsAreUseless more than once, up to and including being quick to punish innocent students even when they're not at fault, combined with a [[MisplacedKindergartenTeacher hands-off approach to conflict resolution]] that [[KarmaHoudini leaves actual troublemakers unchecked]], has left several fans wondering if she even deserves this reputation.

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Ms. Bustier is meant to be seen as a CoolTeacher whom everyone (including [[AlphaBitch Chloé]]) loves and is fair to her students. However, the fact that she's fallen victim to AdultsAreUseless more than once, up to and including being quick to punish innocent students even when they're not at fault, combined with a [[MisplacedKindergartenTeacher hands-off approach to conflict resolution]] that [[KarmaHoudini leaves actual troublemakers unchecked]], has left several fans wondering if she even deserves this reputation.
** By the end of season 5, Félix Agreste is ultimately portrayed as a true hero who, like the rest of Marinette's allies, [[spoiler:deserves to keep his Miraculous permanently]]...which ignores the fact that he essentially caused season 5's plot to happen by [[spoiler:willingly delivering all the Miraculouses sans Ladybug and Cat Noir's to the BigBad so he can get the Peacock Miraculous]]. And the fact that, not only did he never get a proper moment to atone for this, but that he continued to do morally-questionable things throughout season 5, including [[spoiler:using a sentimonster to wipe multiple people from existence]]. Needless to say, a number of fans didn't exactly buy it.
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** While Season 1 appeared to set up a civilian connection between Marinette and Gabriel Agreste through their mutual interest in fashion, they ultimately have no real meaningful interactions outside of talking about Adrien. And since the show never depicted Marinette going from seeing Gabriel as her idol in ''Origins'' to an absent and cold father in ''Collector'', and Hawk Moth also shows minimal attention to Marinette outside of being any other potential akuma victim, it makes the emotional stake of any potential identity reveal between them [[CollateralAngst entirely dependent on the fact that Adrien would be upset]].

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* StrangledByTheRedString:
** Adrien was interested in Kagami right in her introduction episode, but not only is it heavily implied that his attraction to her has more to do with her resemblance to Ladybug[[labelnote:note]]Like Marinette/Ladybug, Kagami is East Asian (Kagami is Japanese while Marinette/Ladybug is of Chinese descent) with black hair stylized as blue, and she is introduced wearing a red fencing suit (opposed to all the other fencers wearing white suits) calling Ladybug's red suit to mind, and she is also confident and a capable fighter like Ladybug[[/labelnote]], Adrien continued to flirt with and pine after [[OneTrueLove Ladybug]] as Cat Noir, even after getting together with Kagami. Luka, the other rival, was shown to have gained Marinette's affections from the start, but he did not appear to be much different from any other boy who had a crush on Marinette/Ladybug before like Nathanael and Nino, and yet, she showed no interest in them. In fact, he displayed not much more personality traits other than being a mellow NiceGuy for most of the seasons. Add the fact he appeared only in a handful of episodes too, making one wonder why he would have attracted Marinette's attention to begin with. It doesn't help that [[PutOnABus both Luka and Kagami were essentially tossed aside within the first two episodes of Season 4]] and have been used as little more than reminders that the Love Square is endgame. Thus causing both ships and the Love Square to become completely unbelievable in the process, with the latter teetering into RomanticPlotTumor territory.
** Félix and Kagami's romance comes completely out of nowhere, especially considering that the duo haven't had any kind of major interaction until the Season 5 finale and fall in love in just two episodes. For starters, the episode focused on developing their relationship opens with Félix disturbingly spying on Kagami and despite kidnapping her later in the episode and revealing that he stalked her some time after they met, she [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives him]] only when he tells her that they're similar. Later although they become an OfficialCouple, the show never explains what caused them to develop feelings for each other, apart from the fact that they could both sentimonsters.

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** Adrien was interested in Kagami right in her introduction episode, but not only is it heavily implied that his attraction to her has more to do with her resemblance to Ladybug[[labelnote:note]]Like Marinette/Ladybug, Kagami is East Asian (Kagami is Japanese while Marinette/Ladybug is of Chinese descent) with black hair stylized as blue, and she is introduced wearing a red fencing suit (opposed to all the other fencers wearing white suits) calling Ladybug's red suit to mind, and she is also confident and a capable fighter like Ladybug[[/labelnote]], Adrien continued to flirt with and pine after [[OneTrueLove Ladybug]] as Cat Noir, even after getting together with Kagami. Luka, the other rival, was shown to have gained Marinette's affections from the start, but he did not appear to be much different from any other boy who had a crush on Marinette/Ladybug before like Nathanael and Nino, and yet, she showed no interest in them. In fact, he displayed not much more personality traits other than being a mellow NiceGuy for most of the seasons. Add the fact he appeared only in a handful of episodes too, making one wonder why he would have attracted Marinette's attention to begin with. It doesn't help that [[PutOnABus both Luka and Kagami were essentially tossed aside within the first two episodes of Season 4]] and have been used as little more than reminders that the Love Square is endgame. Thus causing both ships and the Love Square to become completely unbelievable in the process, with the latter teetering into RomanticPlotTumor territory.
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StrangledByTheRedString: Félix and Kagami's romance comes completely out of nowhere, especially considering that the duo haven't had any kind of major interaction until the Season 5 finale and fall in love in just two episodes. For starters, the episode focused on developing their relationship opens with Félix disturbingly spying on Kagami and despite kidnapping her later in the episode and revealing that he stalked her some time after they met, she [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives him]] only when he tells her that they're similar. Later although they become an OfficialCouple, the show never explains what caused them to develop feelings for each other, apart from the fact that they could both sentimonsters.
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** Seasons 2 and 3 were severe cases of "We need some {{Romantic False Lead}}s, right here and now" without taking time to develop the reasons why our two main characters would be attracted to them. Adrien was interested in Kagami right in her introduction episode, but not only is it heavily implied that his attraction to her has more to do with her resemblance to Ladybug[[labelnote:note]]Like Marinette/Ladybug, Kagami is East Asian (Kagami is Japanese while Marinette/Ladybug is of Chinese descent) with black hair stylized as blue, and she is introduced wearing a red fencing suit (opposed to all the other fencers wearing white suits) calling Ladybug's red suit to mind, and she is also confident and a capable fighter like Ladybug[[/labelnote]], Adrien continued to flirt with and pine after [[OneTrueLove Ladybug]] as Cat Noir, even after getting together with Kagami. Luka, the other rival, was shown to have gained Marinette's affections from the start, but he did not appear to be much different from any other boy who had a crush on Marinette/Ladybug before like Nathanael and Nino, and yet, she showed no interest in them. In fact, he displayed not much more personality traits other than being a mellow NiceGuy for most of the seasons. Add the fact he appeared only in a handful of episodes too, making one wonder why he would have attracted Marinette's attention to begin with. It doesn't help that [[PutOnABus both Luka and Kagami were essentially tossed aside within the first two episodes of Season 4]] and have been used as little more than reminders that the Love Square is endgame. Thus causing both ships and the Love Square to become completely unbelievable in the process, with the latter teetering into RomanticPlotTumor territory.
** Félix and Kagami's romance comes completely out of nowhere, especially considering that the duo haven't had any kind of major interaction until the Season 5 finale and fall in love in just two episodes. For starters, the episode focused on developing their relationship opens with Félix disturbingly spying on Kagami and despite kidnapping her later]] in the episode and revealing that he stalked her some time after they met, she [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives him only when he tells her that they're similar. Later although they become an OfficialCouple, the show never explains what caused them to develop feelings for each other, apart from the fact that they could both sentimonsters.

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** Seasons 2 and 3 were severe cases of "We need some {{Romantic False Lead}}s, right here and now" without taking time to develop the reasons why our two main characters would be attracted to them. Adrien was interested in Kagami right in her introduction episode, but not only is it heavily implied that his attraction to her has more to do with her resemblance to Ladybug[[labelnote:note]]Like Marinette/Ladybug, Kagami is East Asian (Kagami is Japanese while Marinette/Ladybug is of Chinese descent) with black hair stylized as blue, and she is introduced wearing a red fencing suit (opposed to all the other fencers wearing white suits) calling Ladybug's red suit to mind, and she is also confident and a capable fighter like Ladybug[[/labelnote]], Adrien continued to flirt with and pine after [[OneTrueLove Ladybug]] as Cat Noir, even after getting together with Kagami. Luka, the other rival, was shown to have gained Marinette's affections from the start, but he did not appear to be much different from any other boy who had a crush on Marinette/Ladybug before like Nathanael and Nino, and yet, she showed no interest in them. In fact, he displayed not much more personality traits other than being a mellow NiceGuy for most of the seasons. Add the fact he appeared only in a handful of episodes too, making one wonder why he would have attracted Marinette's attention to begin with. It doesn't help that [[PutOnABus both Luka and Kagami were essentially tossed aside within the first two episodes of Season 4]] and have been used as little more than reminders that the Love Square is endgame. Thus causing both ships and the Love Square to become completely unbelievable in the process, with the latter teetering into RomanticPlotTumor territory.
** Félix and Kagami's romance comes completely out of nowhere, especially considering that the duo haven't had any kind of major interaction until the Season 5 finale and fall in love in just two episodes. For starters, the episode focused on developing their relationship opens with Félix disturbingly spying on Kagami and despite kidnapping her later]] later in the episode and revealing that he stalked her some time after they met, she [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives him him]] only when he tells her that they're similar. Later although they become an OfficialCouple, the show never explains what caused them to develop feelings for each other, apart from the fact that they could both sentimonsters.
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** Seasons 2 and 3 were severe cases of "We need some {{Romantic False Lead}}s, right here and now" without taking time to develop the reasons why our two main characters would be attracted to them. Adrien was interested in Kagami right in her introduction episode, but not only is it heavily implied that his attraction to her has more to do with her resemblance to Ladybug[[labelnote:note]]Like Marinette/Ladybug, Kagami is East Asian (Kagami is Japanese while Marinette/Ladybug is of Chinese descent) with black hair stylized as blue, and she is introduced wearing a red fencing suit (opposed to all the other fencers wearing white suits) calling Ladybug's red suit to mind, and she is also confident and a capable fighter like Ladybug[[/labelnote]], Adrien continued to flirt with and pine after [[OneTrueLove Ladybug]] as Cat Noir, even after getting together with Kagami. Luka, the other rival, was shown to have gained Marinette's affections from the start, but he did not appear to be much different from any other boy who had a crush on Marinette/Ladybug before like Nathanael and Nino, and yet, she showed no interest in them. In fact, he displayed not much more personality traits other than being a mellow NiceGuy for most of the seasons. Add the fact he appeared only in a handful of episodes too, making one wonder why he would have attracted Marinette's attention to begin with. It doesn't help that [[PutOnABus both Luka and Kagami were essentially tossed aside within the first two episodes of Season 4]] and have been used as little more than reminders that the Love Square is endgame. Thus causing both ships and the Love Square to become completely unbelievable in the process, with the latter teetering into RomanticPlotTumor territory.
** Félix and Kagami's romance comes completely out of nowhere, especially considering that the duo haven't had any kind of major interaction until the Season 5 finale and fall in love in just two episodes. For starters, the episode focused on developing their relationship opens with Félix disturbingly spying on Kagami and despite kidnapping her later]] in the episode and revealing that he stalked her some time after they met, she [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives him only when he tells her that they're similar. Later although they become an OfficialCouple, the show never explains what caused them to develop feelings for each other, apart from the fact that they could both sentimonsters.

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* CharacterPerceptionEvolution: While Adrien/Cat Noir's base-breaking status developed fairly early in the show's run, Marinette/Ladybug used to be near universally beloved by fans. This started changing at some point during season 3, thanks to a combination of her shortcomings as a character becoming more numerous and blatant (as was happening with a number of other characters at the time), Adrien fans getting tired of what they perceived as other fans bashing their favorite character and deciding to give her the same treatment in turn, and a glut of "salt fic" writers constantly ignoring her flaws and turning her into a perfect angel who deserves everything on a silver platter while her loved ones suffer, much to the annoyance of less salty fans. Nowadays, while she still has a loyal fanbase, she's just as much of a base-breaker to the general fandom as her partner.

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While Adrien/Cat Noir's base-breaking status developed fairly early in the show's run, Marinette/Ladybug used to be near universally beloved by fans. This started changing at some point during season 3, thanks to a combination of her shortcomings as a character becoming more numerous and blatant (as was happening with a number of other characters at the time), Adrien fans getting tired of what they perceived as other fans bashing their favorite character and deciding to give her the same treatment in turn, and a glut of "salt fic" writers constantly ignoring her flaws and turning her into a perfect angel who deserves everything on a silver platter while her loved ones suffer, much to the annoyance of less salty fans. Nowadays, while she still has a loyal fanbase, she's just as much of a base-breaker to the general fandom as her partner.partner.
** Nino was the only one of the main characters who hadn't fallen into BaseBreakingCharacter territory for the first three seasons thanks to his positive attitude, his overall healthy and supportive friendship with Adrien and getting the Turtle Miraculous, which made him a fan favorite. But from fourth season he began to gain detractors, starting with "Rocketear" where he stalks Alya and gets akumatized by a meaningless misunderstanding, in addition to revealing his identity as Carapace and Rena Rouge’s identity to Adrien. He later becomes more of a jerk in later episodes, such as in “Illusion” where he goes over-the-top with his plan to defeat Monarch, and he deliberately gets someone akumatized for it, getting his best friend in trouble with his father.
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** Marinette's hyperactive nature and impulsive tendencies, which tend to actively hinder her attempts to achieve what she wants despite her best efforts, have caused some fans to theorize she has [=ADHD=].

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** Marinette's hyperactive nature and impulsive tendencies, which tend to actively hinder her attempts to achieve what she wants despite her best efforts, have caused some fans to theorize she has [=ADHD=].ADHD.
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** Marinette's hyperactive nature and impulsive tendencies, which tend to actively hinder her attempts to achieve what she wants despite her best efforts, have caused some fans to theorize she has {{ADHD}}.

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** Marinette's hyperactive nature and impulsive tendencies, which tend to actively hinder her attempts to achieve what she wants despite her best efforts, have caused some fans to theorize she has {{ADHD}}.[=ADHD=].
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* [[IKnewIt/MiraculousLadybug I Knew It!]]
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* BizarroEpisode: Between the [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs trippiness]] in relation to the titular akuma, the fact that [[spoiler:two Miraculous holders [[OutOfOrder that were meant to debut in earlier episodes that hadn't aired yet]] appeared alongside the debut of one [[ConfusionFu who only added]] to the trippiness]], and the language barrier[[note]]the majority of the fandom speaks English, the episode originally came out in French[[/note]], "Party Crasher" ended up being labeled this by a number of viewers.

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* BizarroEpisode: Between the [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs trippiness]] trippiness in relation to the titular akuma, the fact that [[spoiler:two Miraculous holders [[OutOfOrder that were meant to debut in earlier episodes that hadn't aired yet]] appeared alongside the debut of one [[ConfusionFu who only added]] to the trippiness]], and the language barrier[[note]]the majority of the fandom speaks English, the episode originally came out in French[[/note]], "Party Crasher" ended up being labeled this by a number of viewers.
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** The ''Kwami's Choice'' two-parter missed a chance for Marinette to be akumatized, but without the issue of no one being able to return her to normal [[spoiler:as Alya was the then holder of the Ladybug Miraculous.]]
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* AmericansHateTingle: André the ice cream vendor, while [[BaseBreakingCharacter not exactly well-liked]] in France, he still has fans who find his [[ShipperOnDeck matchmaking]] harmless rather than creepy. But he i [[TheScrappy much hated]] in the West due to many viewers finding AccidentalNightmareFuel that he's so invested in teenager's love lives when he's a grown man and his UnintentionallyUnsympathetic nature to be akumatized.

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* AmericansHateTingle: André the ice cream vendor, while [[BaseBreakingCharacter not exactly well-liked]] in France, he still has fans who find his [[ShipperOnDeck matchmaking]] harmless rather than creepy. But he i is [[TheScrappy much hated]] in the West due to many viewers finding AccidentalNightmareFuel that he's so invested in teenager's love lives when he's a grown man and his UnintentionallyUnsympathetic nature reasons to be akumatized.
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* AmericansHateTingle: André the ice cream vendor, while [[BaseBreakingCharacter not exactly well-liked]] in France,, he still has fans who find his [[ShipperOnDeck matchmaking]] harmless rather than creepy. But he is much hated in the West where he became TheScrappy due to many finding AccidentalNightmareFuel that he's so invested in teenager's love lives when he's a grown man and his UnintentionallyUnsympathetic nature to be akumatized.

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* AmericansHateTingle: André the ice cream vendor, while [[BaseBreakingCharacter not exactly well-liked]] in France,, France, he still has fans who find his [[ShipperOnDeck matchmaking]] harmless rather than creepy. But he is i [[TheScrappy much hated hated]] in the West where he became TheScrappy due to many viewers finding AccidentalNightmareFuel that he's so invested in teenager's love lives when he's a grown man and his UnintentionallyUnsympathetic nature to be akumatized.
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* AmericansHateTingle: André the ice cream vendor, while [[BaseBreakingCharacter not exactly well-liked]] in France,, he still has fans who find his [[ShipperOnDeck matchmaking]] harmless rather than creepy. But he is much hated in the West where he became TheScrappy due to many finding AccidentalNightmareFuel that he's so invested in teenager's love lives when he's a grown man and his UnintentionallyUnsympathetic nature to be akumatized.
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* AccidentalAesop: It’s impossible to leave emotions out of conflicts. Both times Adrien discovers that his father is the villain he called a monster, it results in a BadFuture, whereas when [[spoiler:Marinette faces Monarch without telling Adrien]], the result is more positive [[spoiler:With Gabriel redeeming himself and Paris returning to peace]].

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* AccidentalAesop: It’s impossible to leave emotions out of conflicts. Both times Adrien discovers that his father is the villain he called a monster, it results in a BadFuture, whereas when [[spoiler:Marinette faces Monarch without telling Adrien]], the result is more positive [[spoiler:With [[spoiler:with Gabriel redeeming himself and Paris returning to peace]].

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