Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / Maskerade

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Tearjerker'': A minor one, but after Agnes is humiliated in front of everyone--rejected by André and subjected to some [[BrutalHonesty Brutal Honesty]] from Walter,

to:

* ''Tearjerker'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Tearjerker Tearjerker]]: A minor one, but after Agnes is humiliated in front of everyone--rejected by André and subjected to some [[BrutalHonesty Brutal Honesty]] from Walter,
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* [[Main/Tearjerker Tearjerker]]: A minor one, but after Agnes is humiliated in front of everyone--rejected by André and subjected to some [[BrutalHonesty Brutal Honesty]] from Walter,

to:

* [[Main/Tearjerker Tearjerker]]: ''Tearjerker'': A minor one, but after Agnes is humiliated in front of everyone--rejected by André and subjected to some [[BrutalHonesty Brutal Honesty]] from Walter,
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* [[Tearjerker Tearjerker]]: A minor one, but after Agnes is humiliated in front of everyone--rejected by André and subjected to some [[BrutalHonesty Brutal Honesty]] from Walter,

to:

* [[Tearjerker [[Main/Tearjerker Tearjerker]]: A minor one, but after Agnes is humiliated in front of everyone--rejected by André and subjected to some [[BrutalHonesty Brutal Honesty]] from Walter,
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Tearjerker: A minor one, but after Agnes is humiliated in front of everyone--rejected by André and subjected to some [[BrutalHonesty Brutal Honesty]] from Walter,

to:

* Tearjerker: [[Tearjerker Tearjerker]]: A minor one, but after Agnes is humiliated in front of everyone--rejected by André and subjected to some [[BrutalHonesty Brutal Honesty]] from Walter,
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Tearjerker: A minor one, but after Agnes is humiliated in front of everyone--rejected by André and subjected to some [[BrutalHonesty Brutal Honesty]] from Walter,
-->"Agnes turned away, and felt Granny Weatherwax's gaze on her. [[DontYouDarePityMe She was sure it was a mocking gaze]]."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[TheatrePhantom Salzella]] is the deadpan and harsh music director of the Ankh-Morpork Opera House and the false killer Ghost seeking the opera's ruin to satiate his hate and greed. Despising opera, its performers, and its watchers, Salzella is secretly embezzling a massive profit while taking the guise of the Ghost after threatening the mentally challenged real Ghost Walter with murdering his mother. The false Ghost destroys equipment to hide his thefts while murdering or attempting to murder multiple people who might discover his schemes. When Granny Weatherwax uncovers Walter's alter ego, Salzella [[FrameUp frames the innocent young man]] and sends a mob out to murder him. On the verge of exposure, Salzella attempts to drop a [[FallingChandelierOfDoom massive flaming chandelier]] during a packed performance to doom hundreds to a fiery death to hide his heinous crimes and escape justice.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* GeniusBonus: Many of the anecdotes told about opera are lightly fictionalized versions of actual opera stories. The "Bouncing Gigli" incident (in which the prima donna was supposed to fling herself off a tower to her death, but a trampoline was used to break the actress's fall, so--well, you can guess) is based on a probably-apocryphal anecdote attributed to various productions of ''Theatre/{{Tosca}}''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FunnyAneurysmMoment: There is a funny scene on the witches' way to Ankh-Morpork where Granny plays [[ChessWithDeath poker with Death]] to save the life of a sick infant. Later, in ''Literature/CarpeJugulum'', Granny is again called out to save a newborn... and this time she fails (or at least, is forced to make a SadisticChoice between the baby and the mother), becoming the final straw that leads to her DespairEventHorizon.

to:

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: HarsherInHindsight: There is a funny scene on the witches' way to Ankh-Morpork where Granny plays [[ChessWithDeath poker with Death]] to save the life of a sick infant. Later, in ''Literature/CarpeJugulum'', Granny is again called out to save a newborn... and this time she fails (or at least, is forced to make a SadisticChoice between the baby and the mother), becoming the final straw that leads to her DespairEventHorizon.

Removed: 2156

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


* ShockingSwerve: There isn't much buildup for TheReveal that [[spoiler: Salzella was murdering people as a second Ghost]], and [[spoiler: Salzella]]'s motivations do not make any sense whatsoever (he ''has'' been stealing lots of money, but that's more due to clever accounting than his antics as the Ghost). However, this is amidst characters saying that ''nothing'' in opera makes sense and it comes across as extraordinarily meta, especially with the scene mentioned under LampshadeHanging.
** It would seem that he was originally trying to frame [[spoiler:Walter]] for his actions to cover the tracks, and use the murders to do so, but getting badly carried away in the process.
** And the villain pretty much explains at the end that the murders were because the victims had found out his identity; the rat catcher was blackmailing him and the music director had seen him.
** And when asked why he didn't just leave the opera, as that would solve all his problems, he simply acts like that would be inconceivable, and doesn't get a chance to elaborate further.
** There ''is'' build-up to the fact that [[spoiler: Salzella]] is up to ''something'' that has to do with the accidents in the Opera House fairly early on (via internal monologue -- he compares milk going sour to the situation in the Opera House with the comment that Opera Houses unlike milk doesn't go sour on their own, and phrases it in such a way as to make it clear that ''he's'' the one making things go sour). Still not much, since it is a single easily missed line (there is more foreshadowing to there being [[spoiler: two Ghosts]], however).
** There's also one really ''big'' hint that is easy to miss simply because it happens in the midst of some intense action and confusion: [[spoiler: when Salzella urges the mob to pursue the Ghost and claims that it's Walter, he's waving a skull-like mask in the air. But Walter still has his own mask when Granny confronts him on the rooftop, takes it off him and puts it on Greebo as a decoy. So why's Salzella, who'd never even claimed to have seen the Ghost, got exactly the right sort of mask with him when he makes the accusation?]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Correcting formatting


* HilariousInHindsight: during the final opera performance, we're shown Nobby Nobbs and Detritus as undercover-in-plain-sight cops, pretending to be nobility enjoying a night at the Opera. Nobby introduces them as "Count de Nobbes" and "Count de Tritus", resulting in Nanny Ogg turning away before she bursts into laughter at how badly they suck at being undercover. Then, in the very next book "Feet of Clay", Nobby is revealed as the last remaining heir of the Earl of Ankh -- where bystanders continually comment that he looks and acts just like real royalty. Nobby sucking at being fake royalty: funny. Nobby subsequently being considered true royalty without changing his behaviour one bit? Hi-larious...

to:

* HilariousInHindsight: during During the final opera performance, we're shown Nobby Nobbs and Detritus as undercover-in-plain-sight cops, pretending to be nobility enjoying a night at the Opera. Nobby introduces them as "Count de Nobbes" and "Count de Tritus", resulting in Nanny Ogg turning away before she bursts into laughter at how badly they suck at being undercover. Then, in the very next book "Feet of Clay", ''Literature/FeetOfClay'', Nobby is revealed as the last remaining heir of the Earl of Ankh -- where bystanders continually comment that he looks and acts just like real royalty. Nobby sucking at being trying to act like fake royalty: funny. Nobby subsequently being considered to be acting like true royalty without changing by being his behaviour one bit? Hi-larious... usual gross-out self? Hi-larious...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* HilariousInHindsight: during the final opera performance, we're shown Nobby Nobbs and Detritus as undercover-in-plain-sight cops, pretending to be nobility enjoying a night at the Opera. Nobby introduces them as "Count de Nobbes" and "Count de Tritus", resulting in Nanny Ogg turning away before she bursts into laughter at how badly they suck at being undercover. Then, in the very next book "Feet of Clay", Nobby is revealed as the last remaining heir of the Earl of Ankh -- where bystanders continually comment that he looks and acts just like real royalty. Nobby sucking at being fake royalty: funny. Nobby subsequently being considered true royalty without changing his behaviour one bit? Hi-larious...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FunnyAneurysmMoment: There is a funny scene on the witches' way to Ankh-Morpork where Granny plays [[ChessWithDeath poker with Death]] to save the life of a sick infant. Later, in ''Literature/CarpeJugulum'', Granny is again called out to save a newborn... and this time she fails, becoming the final straw that leads to her DespairEventHorizon.

to:

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: There is a funny scene on the witches' way to Ankh-Morpork where Granny plays [[ChessWithDeath poker with Death]] to save the life of a sick infant. Later, in ''Literature/CarpeJugulum'', Granny is again called out to save a newborn... and this time she fails, fails (or at least, is forced to make a SadisticChoice between the baby and the mother), becoming the final straw that leads to her DespairEventHorizon.

Changed: 339

Removed: 346

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
namespace migration; the Awesome Music entry seems more like in-universe perception than the audience's


* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Dr. Undershaft is in tears after hearing Agnes sing.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: There is a funny scene on the witches' way to Ankh-Morpork where Granny plays [[ChessWithDeath poker with Death]] to save the life of a sick infant. Later, in ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', Granny is again called out to save a newborn... and this time she fails, becoming the final straw that leads to her DespairEventHorizon.

to:

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Dr. Undershaft is in tears after hearing Agnes sing.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: There is a funny scene on the witches' way to Ankh-Morpork where Granny plays [[ChessWithDeath poker with Death]] to save the life of a sick infant. Later, in ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', ''Literature/CarpeJugulum'', Granny is again called out to save a newborn... and this time she fails, becoming the final straw that leads to her DespairEventHorizon.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Dr. Undershaft is in tears after hearing Agnes sing.

to:

* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Dr. Undershaft is in tears after hearing Agnes sing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: There is a funny scene on the witches' way to Ankh-Morpork where Granny plays [[ChessWithDeath poker with Death]] to save the life of a sick infant. Later, in ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', Granny is again called out to save a newborn... and this time she fails, becoming the final straw that leads to her DespairEventHorizon.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** There's also one really ''big'' hint that is easy to miss simply because it happens in the midst of some intense action and confusion: [[spoiler: when Salzella urges the mob to pursue the Ghost and claims that it's Walter, he's waving a skull-like mask in the air. But Walter still has his own mask when Granny confronts him on the rooftop, takes it off him and puts it on Greebo as a decoy. So why's Salzella, who'd never even claimed to have seen the Ghost, got exactly the right sort of mask with him when he makes the accusation?]]

to:

** There's also one really ''big'' hint that is easy to miss simply because it happens in the midst of some intense action and confusion: [[spoiler: when Salzella urges the mob to pursue the Ghost and claims that it's Walter, he's waving a skull-like mask in the air. But Walter still has his own mask when Granny confronts him on the rooftop, takes it off him and puts it on Greebo as a decoy. So why's Salzella, who'd never even claimed to have seen the Ghost, got exactly the right sort of mask with him when he makes the accusation?]]accusation?]]
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** There ''is'' build-up to the fact that [[spoiler: Salzella]] is up to ''something'' that has to do with the accidents in the Opera House fairly early on (via internal monologue -- he compares milk going sour to the situation in the Opera House with the comment that Opera Houses unlike milk doesn't go sour on their own, and phrases it in such a way as to make it clear that ''he's'' the one making things go sour). Still not much, since it is a single easily missed line (there is more foreshadowing to there being [[spoiler: two Ghosts]], however).

to:

** There ''is'' build-up to the fact that [[spoiler: Salzella]] is up to ''something'' that has to do with the accidents in the Opera House fairly early on (via internal monologue -- he compares milk going sour to the situation in the Opera House with the comment that Opera Houses unlike milk doesn't go sour on their own, and phrases it in such a way as to make it clear that ''he's'' the one making things go sour). Still not much, since it is a single easily missed line (there is more foreshadowing to there being [[spoiler: two Ghosts]], however).however).
** There's also one really ''big'' hint that is easy to miss simply because it happens in the midst of some intense action and confusion: [[spoiler: when Salzella urges the mob to pursue the Ghost and claims that it's Walter, he's waving a skull-like mask in the air. But Walter still has his own mask when Granny confronts him on the rooftop, takes it off him and puts it on Greebo as a decoy. So why's Salzella, who'd never even claimed to have seen the Ghost, got exactly the right sort of mask with him when he makes the accusation?]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** There ''is'' build-up to the fact that [[spoiler: Salzella]] is up to ''something'' that has to do with the accidents in the Opera House fairly early on (via internal monologue -- he compares milk going sour to the situation in the Opera House with the comment that Opera Houses unlike milk doesn't go sour on their own, and phrases it in such a way as to make it clear that ''he's'' the one making things go sour).

to:

** There ''is'' build-up to the fact that [[spoiler: Salzella]] is up to ''something'' that has to do with the accidents in the Opera House fairly early on (via internal monologue -- he compares milk going sour to the situation in the Opera House with the comment that Opera Houses unlike milk doesn't go sour on their own, and phrases it in such a way as to make it clear that ''he's'' the one making things go sour). Still not much, since it is a single easily missed line (there is more foreshadowing to there being [[spoiler: two Ghosts]], however).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** And when asked why he didn't just leave the opera, as that would solve all his problems, he simply acts like that would be inconceivable, and doesn't get a chance to elaborate further.

to:

** And when asked why he didn't just leave the opera, as that would solve all his problems, he simply acts like that would be inconceivable, and doesn't get a chance to elaborate further.further.
** There ''is'' build-up to the fact that [[spoiler: Salzella]] is up to ''something'' that has to do with the accidents in the Opera House fairly early on (via internal monologue -- he compares milk going sour to the situation in the Opera House with the comment that Opera Houses unlike milk doesn't go sour on their own, and phrases it in such a way as to make it clear that ''he's'' the one making things go sour).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Dr. Undershaft is in tears after hearing Agnes sing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** And the villain pretty much explains at the end that the murders were because the victims had found out his identity; the rat catcher was blackmailing him and the music director had seen him.

to:

** And the villain pretty much explains at the end that the murders were because the victims had found out his identity; the rat catcher was blackmailing him and the music director had seen him.him.
** And when asked why he didn't just leave the opera, as that would solve all his problems, he simply acts like that would be inconceivable, and doesn't get a chance to elaborate further.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ShockingSwerve: There isn't much buildup for TheReveal that [[spoiler: Salzella was murdering people as a second Ghost]], and [[spoiler: Salzella]]'s motivations do not make any sense whatsoever (he ''has'' been stealing lots of money, but that's more due to clever accounting than his antics as the Ghost). However, this is amidst characters saying that ''nothing'' in opera makes sense and it comes across as extraordinarily meta, especially with the scene mentioned under LampshadeHanging.
** It would seem that he was originally trying to frame [[spoiler:Walter]] for his actions to cover the tracks, and use the murders to do so, but getting badly carried away in the process.
** And the villain pretty much explains at the end that the murders were because the victims had found out his identity; the rat catcher was blackmailing him and the music director had seen him.

Top