History YMMV / LyricalNanoha

** ''SoundStageX'' was basically a continuation of ''Anime/{{StrikerS}}''... with no characters introduced before that season making any appearances. People who were not fans of the new characters did not take it well.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: YUUNO. In a series so focused on how the ancient civilizations and technologies of the past are enormously impacting upon the present day, having an archeologist, scholar and librarian of ancient knowledge in the cast would seem like a great idea. If nothing else, Yuuno could have continued his roll as MrExposition in ''Anime/{{StrikerS}}'', ''SoundStageX'', ''[[NanohaViVid ViVid]]'' and ''[[NanohaForce Force]]'', considering that no one would be better qualified to explain about the Belkan Reunification War, the Sankt Kaiser dynasty, the Saint's Cradle, the Hegemon Klaus and his relationship with Olivie, Queen Ixpelia and the Mariage, and perhaps even the Bible of the Silver Cross and its Eclipse Virus.

*** The ''FateStayNight'' crossover, which disappointed people who were expecting something serious and longer than a one-shot.

* UnfortunateImplications: Though this probably isn't the writers' intention, Nanoha's [[DefeatMeansFriendship method of befriending]] people might give some of the younger viewers (read: those in the 4-9 year-old demographic) the idea that [[MightMakesRight it's acceptable to beat the crap out of somebody in order to prove that you're right and they're wrong.]]

* CompleteMonster: Quattro. While Precia Testarossa has a FreudianExcuse and Scaglietti was created to be the personification of ForScience, Quattro comes off as little more than a smug, sadistic sociopath who enjoys watching "insects" suffer.
* ContestedSequel: With the exception of ''[[NanohaAs A's]]'', which is considered an EvenBetterSequel, pretty much any other entry into the main continuity has left the fandom polarised. It doesn't help that the author is constantly tinkering with the established formula in very unsubtle ways.

* CompleteMonster: Quattro. While Precia Testarossa has a FreudianExcuse and Scaglietti was created to be the personification of ForScience, Quattro comes off as little more than a smug, sadistic sociopath who enjoy watching "insects" suffer.

* CompleteMonster: Quattro. While Precia Testarossa has a FreudianExcuse and Scaglietti was created to be personification of ForScience, Quattro comes off as little more than a smug, sadistic sociopath who enjoy watching "insects" suffer.

** CuteAndPsycho / MemeticPsychopath: Nanoha's in-story [[BloodKnight enthusiasm]] for magical combat tends to be exaggerated into outright bloodthirstiness by fans. After being called a demon and stating that she may as well be if that's what will work, she has since been known as the "White Devil". All the "White Devil" [[http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4813/nanoha2.jpg fanart]] where Nanoha is drawn as an AxCrazy StepfordSmiler and MemeticMolester of Fate started from that.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: As time passed, reception of Precia Testarossa has lightened, especially in presence of the much reviled [[GenericDoomsdayVillain Huckebein]]. First she got Woobie moments in the Movie 1st, then in ''Gears of Destiny'' her spirit made peace with Linith's, and finally ''[[Manga/NanohaInnocent INNOCENT]]'' showed what kind of mother she would have been had she not lost Alicia. Impressive, when back in the day, she really was the bonafide "most despicable, worst mom ever" [[MoralEventHorizon with evil acts to prove it]].

** ''Anime/StrikerS'' caught flak for having a 10 year timeskip, thus losing most of the lolis. It moved the setting away from Earth and shifted focus from the previous main characters - [[DemotedToExtra demoting several to extras]] in the process - to a bunch of rookies and a ''lot'' more non-essential background characters. The Numbers cyborgs probably got the most heated debates among the fandom as to whether they were credible antagonists compared to the very powerful rivals from seasons one and two. They were also not as well-developed as previous antagonists, probably because there were so many of them. The third season was twice as long as previous seasons, but rather than using that extra time to develop its enormously expanded cast ''or'' give screentime to those characters inexplicably shoved out of the picture, the writers instead devoted most of the episodes to training the newbies and discussing military policies.
** ''SoundStageX'' was basically a continuation of ''Anime/StrikerS''... with no characters introduced before that season making any appearances. People who were not fans of the new characters did not take it well.

** And then there's ''[[NanohaForce Force]]''. If ''Anime/StrikerS'' broke the base, than ''Force'' Starlight Breakered what was left of it. Running concurrently with ''Manga/{{ViVid}}'', it went completely the other way, all but ensuring that fans of one series hated the other and vice versa. It dropped most magical girl tropes altogether, introduced a bunch of new characters yet again, including an angsty ''male'' lead, which was the last thing anyone expected. It only keeps getting DarkerAndEdgier - innocent people are dying in bloody ways, antagonists are killing indiscriminately for fun, fan-favourite characters are being {{curb stomp|Battle}}ed left and right with powers that, in taking the previous season's AntiMagic UpToEleven, seem more than [[StoryBreakerPower a little broken]] and the [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=503564 weapons]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=473048 and]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=534857 armor]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=465206 designs]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=455604 are]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=442117 now]] approaching ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' levels of batshit insane. People think it's either a natural SequelEscalation of the themes [=StrikerS=] started us off on and thus the most [[SoCoolItsAwesome awesome thing ever]] or a DorkAge that [[FanonDiscontinuity never happened]].

** CuteAndPsycho / MemeticPsychopath: Nanoha's in-story [[BloodKnight enthusiasm]] for magical combat tends to be exaggerated into outright bloodthirstiness by fans. All the "White Devil" [[http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4813/nanoha2.jpg fanart]] where Nanoha is drawn as an AxCrazy StepfordSmiler and MemeticMolester of Fate.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: YUUNO. In a series so focused on how the ancient civilizations and technologies of the past are enormously impacting upon the present day, having an archeologist, scholar and librarian of ancient knowledge in the cast would seem like a great idea. If nothing else, Yuuno could have continued his roll as MrExposition in ''Anime/StrikerS'', ''SoundStageX'', ''[[NanohaViVid ViVid]]'' and ''[[NanohaForce Force]]'', considering that no one would be better qualified to explain about the Belkan Reunification War, the Sankt Kaiser dynasty, the Saint's Cradle, the Hegemon Klaus and his relationship with Olivie, Queen Ixpelia and the Mariage, and perhaps even the Bible of the Silver Cross and its Eclipse Virus.

*** The Movie 2nd A's was accused by many of butchering the lauded ''A's'' storyline. People complained about the changes such as: replacing Nanoha and Fate's reunion from BigDamnHeroes to hugging; having them completely defeated in the first encounter with the Wolkenritter; removing Yuuno from the battle; teasing a fight scene with Lindy that gets promptly aborted; Nanoha doing significantly less well against Reinforce; and of course, removing the Liese twins and the Graham subplot altogether.

* BrokenBase: With the exception of ''[[NanohaAs A's]]'', which is considered an EvenBetterSequel, pretty much any other entry into the main continuity has left the fandom polarised. It doesn't help that the author is constantly tinkering with the established formula in very unsubtle ways.
** ''Anime/StrikerS'' caught flak for having a 10 year timeskip, thus losing most of the lolis. It moved the setting away from Earth and shifted focus from the previous main characters, ([[DemotedToExtra demoting several to extras]] in the process), to a bunch of rookies and a ''lot'' more non-essential background characters. The Numbers cyborgs probably got the most heated debates among the fandom as to whether they were credible antagonists compared to the very powerful rivals from seasons one and two. They were also not as well-developed as previous antagonists, probably because there were so many of them. The third season was twice as long as previous seasons, but rather than using that extra time to develop its enormously expanded cast ''or'' give screentime to those characters inexplicably shoved out of the picture, the writers instead devoted most of the episodes to training the newbies and discussing military policies.

** ''Manga/ViVid'' was the first installment to shift from anime to manga, and a monthly one at that, so it already had a strike against it before it even started. Then it turned out it was a LighterAndSofter take on the series with [[EverythingsBetterWithPlushies plushy devices]], no interdimensional incidents, MagicalGirl tropes ''played straight'' and more lolis (and loli fanservice) than ever. It actually reads more like a shonen series with magical girls... and no antagonist so far. People who liked the changes in ''[=StrikerS=]'' were disappointed, but in Japan where {{moe}} is the law it's the most successful entry in the franchise yet.
** And then there's ''[[NanohaForce Force]]''. If ''Anime/StrikerS'' broke the base, than ''Force'' Starlight Breakered what was left of it. Running concurrently with ''Manga/ViVid'', it went completely the other way, all but ensuring that fans of one series hated the other and vice versa. It dropped most magical girl tropes altogether, introduced a bunch of new characters yet again, including an angsty ''male'' lead, which was the last thing anyone expected. It only keeps getting DarkerAndEdgier - innocent people are dying in bloody ways, antagonists are killing indiscriminately for fun, fan-favourite characters are being {{curb stomp|Battle}}ed left and right with powers that, in taking the previous season's AntiMagic UpToEleven, seem more than [[StoryBreakerPower a little broken]] and the [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=503564 weapons]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=473048 and]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=534857 armor]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=465206 designs]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=455604 are]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=442117 now]] approaching ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' levels of batshit insane. People think it's either a natural SequelEscalation of the themes [=StrikerS=] started us off on and thus the most [[SoCoolItsAwesome awesome thing ever]] or a DorkAge that [[FanonDiscontinuity never happened]].

*** The movie, which was accused by some of being an unoriginal rehash of season one with half the plot and twice the explosions and cutting out pretty much anyone that wasn't Nanoha, Fate or Precia. Others liked it for [[AdaptationDistillation exactly the same reasons]].
*** The movie manga, which later turned out to have little to do with the movie and more in common with the light novel. It was widely decried for the perceived change in character of Nanoha (or Emoha as this version is known to the western fans) and generally trying to be too dramatic with the brutal fight scene between Nanoha and Fate that lasted for most of the second volume. And despite being an AlternateUniverse that changed many things along the way, it still ended the exact same way as the original anime and the movie, leaving many to wonder what the point of it was.

*** ''[[VideoGame/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAsPortable TheBattleOfAces]]'' was generally well-received for shifting the focus back to the ''[[NanohaAs A's]]'' characters and the introduced {{Evil Twin}}s of the main characters became popular enough to be included in the sequel, but even most of its fans admit that it was mediocre in terms of gameplay.
*** The Sequel to the above game ''VideoGame/TheGearsofDestiny'' almost broke this trend. The game have a stronger AI, great amount of playable characters, and a good story with good character development. [[spoiler:However the Manga cast contribute next to nothing to the overall main story, and the ending used Laser-Guided Amnesia to preserve the timeline. But how could this preserve the timeline when the two Timetravelers took four people from the current time era with them? It feels like they are trying to invoke ''InSpiteofaNail'' to make this timeline completely similar to the main one. It left the feeling of The movie manga all over again.]]
*** Previews and Info started showing up for the Second Movie base on A's. People are already complaining about the changes such as replacing [[spoiler: Nanoha and Fate's reunion from BigDamnHeroes to Hugging. Removing Yuuno from battle, and most likely be replace by Lindy. And Removing the Liese twin altogether.]] Some fans are saying "Please let this be good." others are thinking "It cannot be as good as the original TV Series. How worst will it get?"
* CargoShip:
** Raising Heart/Bardiche. They've had {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s in fanon even before ''[[NanohaAs A's]]'' introduced the ridiculously human programs and the concept of unison devices.
** [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/SHxA_9930.jpg Sacred Heart/Asteion.]]

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: As time passed, reception of Precia Testarossa has lightened, especially in presence of the much reviled [[GenericDoomsdayVillain Huckebeins]], and then she got Woobie moments in the 1st movie, then ''Gears of Destiny'' reveal another of her tender side shown towards Linith, THEN she suddenly becomes a loving mother in INNOCENCE. Really way to go when back in the days, she really is the bonafide "Most despicable, worst mom ever" [[MoralEventHorizon with evil acts to prove it]].

* AwesomeMusic:
** The insert songs from the first three seasons "Take A Shot", "Brave Phoenix" and "Pray". They all herald Fate's definitive moments for the season and are all sang by her VA appropriately enough.
** Hayate's theme [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI1YjU8-jKw&feature=related "Snow Rain".]] It sounds like a gentle lullaby, yet has a kind of majestic beauty to it, especially when those violins kick in.
** The ''[[VideoGame/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAsPortable Battle of Aces]]'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpu-KCI5yKE instrumental arrange of "Eternal Blaze"]] - the opening theme for ''A's''.

* AscendedMeme: The card battle game included a card called "Arisa the Burning", a reference to the "Burning Arisa" meme.

* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
** The insert songs from the first three seasons "Take A Shot", "Brave Phoenix" and "Pray". They all herald Fate's definitive moments for the season and are all sang by her VA appropriately enough.
** Hayate's theme [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI1YjU8-jKw&feature=related "Snow Rain".]] It sounds like a gentle lullaby, yet has a kind of majestic beauty to it, especially when those violins kick in.
** The ''[[VideoGame/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAsPortable BattleOfAces]]'' instrumental arrange of "Eternal Blaze" - the opening theme for ''A's''.

** The insert songs from the first three seasons [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQVDGv6WTXo "Take A Shot",]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsMh0tdgw8M "Brave Phoenix"]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df8mShEH0CE "Pray".]] They all herald Fate's definitive moments for the season and are all sang by her VA appropriately enough.

** The ''[[VideoGame/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAsPortable BattleOfAces]]'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZon30nfPCo&playnext=1&list=PL6205F0B5C4F86CF4 instrumental arrange of "Eternal Blaze"]] - the opening theme for ''A's''.

** BloodKnight / SociopathicHero: Nanoha's in-story enthusiasm for magical combat tends to be exaggerated into outright bloodthirstiness by fans. All the "White Devil" [[http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4813/nanoha2.jpg fanart]] where Nanoha is drawn as an AxCrazy StepfordSmiler and MemeticMolester of Fate.
** CuteAndPsycho: Due to her whole DefeatMeansFriendship shtick, MemeticMutation has resulted in Nanoha being turned into this.
** "Befriend" as a euphemism for "beat the living crap out of".
** MemeticPsychopath: "White Devil"

** Sadly, his return would only attract negative reactions from the Legion of LesYay FanDumb. Making this also a case of DieForOurShip, or rather, Be DemotedToExtra And Get The ChuckCunninghamSyndrome For Our Ship...

** And then there's ''[[NanohaForce Force]]''. If ''Anime/StrikerS'' broke the base, than ''Force'' Starlight Breakered what was left of it. Running concurrently with ''Manga/ViVid'', it went completely the other way, all but ensuring that fans of one series hated the other and vice versa. It dropped most magical girl tropes altogether, introduced a bunch of new characters yet again, including an angsty ''male'' lead, which was the last thing anyone expected. It only keeps getting DarkerAndEdgier - innocent people are dying in bloody ways, antagonists are killing indiscriminately for fun, fan-favourite characters are being {{curb stomp|Battle}}ed left and right with powers that, in taking the previous season's AntiMagic UpToEleven, seem more than [[StoryBreakerPower a little broken]] and the [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=503564 weapons]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=473048 and]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=534857 armor]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=465206 designs]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=455604 are]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=442117 now]] approaching ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' levels of batshit insane. People think it's either the most [[SoCoolItsAwesome awesome thing ever]] as a natural SerialEscalation of the themes [=StrikerS=] started us off on or a DorkAge that [[FanonDiscontinuity never happened]].

** And then there's ''[[NanohaForce Force]]''. If ''Anime/StrikerS'' broke the base, than ''Force'' Starlight Breakered what was left of it. Running concurrently with ''Manga/ViVid'', it went completely the other way, all but ensuring that fans of one series hated the other and vice versa. It dropped most magical girl tropes altogether, introduced a bunch of new characters yet again, including an angsty ''male'' lead, which was the last thing anyone expected. It only keeps getting DarkerAndEdgier - innocent people are dying in bloody ways, antagonists are killing indiscriminately for fun, fan-favourite characters are being {{curb stomp|Battle}}ed left and right with powers that seem more than [[StoryBreakerPower a little broken]] and the [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=503564 weapons]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=473048 and]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=534857 armor]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=465206 designs]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=455604 are]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=442117 now]] approaching ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' levels of batshit insane. People think it's either the most [[SoCoolItsAwesome awesome thing ever]] or a DorkAge that [[FanonDiscontinuity never happened]].

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: As time passed, reception of Precia Testarossa has lightened, especially in presence of the much reviled Huckebeins (in which Precia seemingly lost in terms of depravities), and then she got Woobie moments in the 1st movie, then ''Gears of Destiny'' reveal another of her tender side shown towards Linith, THEN she suddenly becomes a loving mother in INNOCENCE. Really way to go when back in the days, she really is the bonafide "Most despicable, worst mom ever" [[MoralEventHorizon with evil acts to prove it]].

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: As time passed, reception of Precia Testarossa has lightened, especially in presence of the much reviled Huckebeins (in which Precia seemingly lost in terms of depravities), and then she got Woobie moments in the 1st movie, THEN she suddenly becomes a loving mother in INNOCENCE. Really way to go when back in the days, she really is the bonafide "Most despicable, worst mom ever".

* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It's a MagicalGirl series aimed at young adult men. Moe is de rigeur for most anime, but the cutesy imagery can be a turnoff for Western audiences that don't look beneath the surface to the action series within.

** And then there's ''[[NanohaForce Force]]''. If ''Anime/StrikerS'' broke the base, than ''Force'' Starlight Breakered what was left of it. Running concurrently with ''Manga/ViVid'', it went completely the other way, all but ensuring that fans of one series hated the other and vice versa. It dropped most magical girl tropes altogether, introduced a bunch of new characters yet again, including an angsty ''male'' lead, which was the last thing anyone expected. It only keeps getting DarkerAndEdgier - innocent people are dying in bloody ways, antagonists are killing indiscriminately for fun, fan-favourite characters are being {{curb stomp|Battle}}ed left and right with powers that seem more than [[StoryBreakerPower a little broken]] and the [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=503564 weapons]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=473048 and]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=534857 armor]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=465206 designs]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=455604 are]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=442117 now]] approaching ''{{Warhammer 40000}}'' levels of batshit insane. People think it's either the most [[SoCoolItsAwesome awesome thing ever]] or a DorkAge that [[FanonDiscontinuity never happened]].

*** Previews and Info started showing up for the Second Movie base on A's. People are already complaining about the changes such as replacing [[spoiler: Nanoha and Fate's reunion from {{Big Damn Heroes}} to Hugging. Removing Yuuno from battle, and most likely be replace by Lindy. And Removing the Liese twin altogether.]] Some fans are saying "Please let this be good." others are thinking "It cannot be as good as the original TV Series. How worst will it get?"

* UnfortunateImplications: Though this probably isn't the writers' intention, Nanoha's [[DefeatMeansFriendship method of befriending]] people might give some of the younger viewers (read: those in the 4-9 year-old demographic) the idea that [[MightMakesRight it's acceptable to beat the crap out of somebody in order to prove that you're right and they're wrong.]]