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"Idiot Plot" is now Flame Bait. Fixed tweaks.


* AdaptationDisplacement : The series is far more popular than the original 2004 movie.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic : The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvb7TvibNg&list=PLA4_jQeLtcJWJehQQf4oO2pGAHhuK8uun entire soundtrack]], by Music/{{Mogwai}}.
* BrokenBase : Is this the poorman's ''Series/{{LOST}}'' or the French ''Series/TwinPeaks''? Are the writers [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants making it up as they go along]] or do they have precise answers planned out beforehand ? Will the second season be a great disappointment or not ? Is Victor [[TagalongKid cute]], [[CreepyChild terrifying]] or [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds both]] ?

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* AdaptationDisplacement : AdaptationDisplacement: The series is far more popular than the original 2004 movie.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic : SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvb7TvibNg&list=PLA4_jQeLtcJWJehQQf4oO2pGAHhuK8uun entire soundtrack]], by Music/{{Mogwai}}.
* BrokenBase : BrokenBase: Is this the poorman's ''Series/{{LOST}}'' or the French ''Series/TwinPeaks''? Are the writers [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants making it up as they go along]] or do they have precise answers planned out beforehand ? beforehand? Will the second season be a great disappointment or not ? not? Is Victor [[TagalongKid cute]], [[CreepyChild terrifying]] or [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds both]] ?both]]?
* TheChrisCarterEffect: Depends on which side of the fandom you're asking, but even those who believe the writers to have a planned mythology are cautious about their chances to obtain all the answers they want.



* IdiotPlot: By the end of the first season, though revenants have been identified as such by a great many people [[spoiler: including the police]], nobody has attempted [[spoiler: to do a serious medical examination of one]] or [[spoiler: to notify the outside world of their existence]]. Other specific examples: not placing a camera in [[spoiler: the tunnel]]; not communicating in any meaningful way with [[spoiler: the horde]]; not turning [[spoiler: Victor]] over to the police [[spoiler: when he appeared to be a normal (if quiet) lost child, presumably with distraught parents somewhere]]; not warning the town of [[spoiler: an incoming long-term blackout]]. All decisions that should have been obvious to some or all of the people involved but [[IdiotBall somehow]] weren't, creating a lot of unnecessary mystery and suffering.
** Of course, many also note that there are perfectly reasonable explanations why the characters acted those way- it's just that they don't follow the cold logic of someone who's outside the situation. [[spoiler: No one does a serious medical examination of a revenant because only a couple of people know about them, and for those people they're either loved ones or a sign of god, which means that experimenting on them or put them in any kind of jeopardy wouldn't ever cross their minds. They know about the horde for, what, two hours? And when they find them, they ''do'' try to communicate in a meaningful way- the horde just answers with 'we just want our dead people back'. Julie doesn't trust the police and, for her, trying to find out whether or not someone was looking for Victor was enough.]] As for not warning the town about the problems at the dam, that has happened so many times ''it isn't even funny''.
* TheChrisCarterEffect : Depends on which side of the fandom you're asking, but even those who believe the writers to have a planned mythology are cautious about their chances to obtain all the answers they want.
* ValuesDissonance : The sex scene int the first episode, between young Léna and Frederic caused some major [[{{Squick}} squick]] outside of France, regarding their age. The character is supposed to be 14, but looks much younger. That's why the twins will apparently get [[AgeLift age-lifted]] in the American remake.
* {{Squick}} : [[spoiler: The rot which begins to infect the Revenants' bodies is bad enough to look at... But then Simon proceeds to EAT HIS OWN FLESH oh dear god...]]

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* IdiotPlot: By the end of the first season, though revenants have been identified as such by a great many people {{Squick}}: [[spoiler: including the police]], nobody has attempted [[spoiler: to do a serious medical examination of one]] or [[spoiler: to notify the outside world of their existence]]. Other specific examples: not placing a camera in [[spoiler: the tunnel]]; not communicating in any meaningful way with [[spoiler: the horde]]; not turning [[spoiler: Victor]] over to the police [[spoiler: when he appeared to be a normal (if quiet) lost child, presumably with distraught parents somewhere]]; not warning the town of [[spoiler: an incoming long-term blackout]]. All decisions that should have been obvious to some or all of the people involved but [[IdiotBall somehow]] weren't, creating a lot of unnecessary mystery and suffering.
** Of course, many also note that there are perfectly reasonable explanations why the characters acted those way- it's just that they don't follow the cold logic of someone who's outside the situation. [[spoiler: No one does a serious medical examination of a revenant because only a couple of people know about them, and for those people they're either loved ones or a sign of god,
The rot which means that experimenting on them or put them in any kind of jeopardy wouldn't ever cross their minds. They know about begins to infect the horde for, what, two hours? And when they find them, they ''do'' try Revenants' bodies is bad enough to communicate in a meaningful way- the horde just answers with 'we just want our dead people back'. Julie doesn't trust the police and, for her, trying look at... But then Simon proceeds to find out whether or not someone was looking for Victor was enough.]] As for not warning the town about the problems at the dam, that has happened so many times ''it isn't even funny''.
EAT HIS OWN FLESH, oh, dear God...]]
* TheChrisCarterEffect : Depends on which side of the fandom you're asking, but even those who believe the writers to have a planned mythology are cautious about their chances to obtain all the answers they want.
* ValuesDissonance :
ValuesDissonance: The sex scene int the first episode, between young Léna and Frederic caused some major [[{{Squick}} squick]] {{Squick}} outside of France, regarding their age. The character is supposed to be 14, but looks much younger. That's why the twins will apparently get [[AgeLift age-lifted]] in the American remake.
* {{Squick}} : [[spoiler: The rot which begins to infect the Revenants' bodies is bad enough to look at... But then Simon proceeds to EAT HIS OWN FLESH oh dear god...]]
remake.


* FandomBerserkButton: Calling them "zombies" instead of revenants.

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* FandomBerserkButton: FandomEnragingMisconception: Calling them "zombies" instead of revenants.
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* AwesomeMusic : The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvb7TvibNg&list=PLA4_jQeLtcJWJehQQf4oO2pGAHhuK8uun entire soundtrack]], by Music/{{Mogwai}}.

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* AwesomeMusic SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic : The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvb7TvibNg&list=PLA4_jQeLtcJWJehQQf4oO2pGAHhuK8uun entire soundtrack]], by Music/{{Mogwai}}.
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* AwesomeMusic : The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvb7TvibNg&list=PLA4_jQeLtcJWJehQQf4oO2pGAHhuK8uun entire soundtrack]], by Mogwai.

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* AwesomeMusic : The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvb7TvibNg&list=PLA4_jQeLtcJWJehQQf4oO2pGAHhuK8uun entire soundtrack]], by Mogwai.Music/{{Mogwai}}.
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* BrokenBase : Is this the poorman's {{LOST}} or the french {{TwinPeaks}} ? Are the writers [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants making it up as they go along]] or do they have precise answers planned out beforehand ? Will the second season be a great disappointment or not ? Is Victor [[TagalongKid cute]], [[CreepyChild terrifying]] or [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds both]] ?

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* BrokenBase : Is this the poorman's {{LOST}} ''Series/{{LOST}}'' or the french {{TwinPeaks}} ? French ''Series/TwinPeaks''? Are the writers [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants making it up as they go along]] or do they have precise answers planned out beforehand ? Will the second season be a great disappointment or not ? Is Victor [[TagalongKid cute]], [[CreepyChild terrifying]] or [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds both]] ?
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** Of course, many also note that there are perfectly reasonable explanations why the characters acted those way- it's just that they don't follow the cold logic of someone who's outside the situation. [[spoiler: No one does a serious medical examination of a revenant because only a couple of people know about them, and those people are focusing more on the fact that their loved ones are alive/these dead people are a sign of god that "experiment on them" or put them in any kind of jeopardy doesn't cross their minds. They know about the horde for, what, two hours? And when they find them, they ''do'' try to communicate in a meaningful way- the horde just answers with 'we just want our dead people back'. Julie doesn't trust the police and, for her, trying to find out whether or not someone was looking for him was enough.]] As for not warning the town about the problems at the dam, that has happened so many times ''it isn't even funny''.

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** Of course, many also note that there are perfectly reasonable explanations why the characters acted those way- it's just that they don't follow the cold logic of someone who's outside the situation. [[spoiler: No one does a serious medical examination of a revenant because only a couple of people know about them, and for those people are focusing more on the fact that their they're either loved ones are alive/these dead people are or a sign of god god, which means that "experiment experimenting on them" them or put them in any kind of jeopardy doesn't wouldn't ever cross their minds. They know about the horde for, what, two hours? And when they find them, they ''do'' try to communicate in a meaningful way- the horde just answers with 'we just want our dead people back'. Julie doesn't trust the police and, for her, trying to find out whether or not someone was looking for him Victor was enough.]] As for not warning the town about the problems at the dam, that has happened so many times ''it isn't even funny''.
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** Of course, many also note that there are perfectly reasonable explanations why the characters acted those way- it's just that they don't follow the cold logic of someone who's outside the situation. [[spoiler: No one does a serious medical examination of a revenant because only a couple of people know about them, and those people are focusing more on the fact that their loved ones are alive/these dead people are a sign of god that "experiment on them" or put them in any kind of jeopardy doesn't cross their minds. They know about the horde for, what, two hours? And when they find them, they ''do'' try to communicate in a meaningful way- the horde just answers with 'we just want our dead people back'. Julie doesn't trust the police and, for her, trying to find out whether or not someone was looking for him was enough.]] As for not warning the town about the problems at the dam, that has happened so many times ''it isn't even funny''.
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not a trope anymore


* FriendlyFandom: With ''Series/InTheFlesh''. Both are about people who came back from the dead and try to be accepted, but with different approach.
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* FriendlyFandom: With ''Series/InTheFlesh''. Both are about people who came back from the dead and try to be accepted, but with different approach.



* {{Squick}} : [[spoiler: The rot which begins to infect the Revenants' bodies is bad enough to look at... But then Simon proceeds to EAT HIS OWN FLESH oh dear god...]]

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* {{Squick}} : [[spoiler: The rot which begins to infect the Revenants' bodies is bad enough to look at... But then Simon proceeds to EAT HIS OWN FLESH oh dear god...]]
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* ValuesDissonance : The sex scene int the first episode, between young Léna and Frederic caused some major [[{{Squick}} squick]] outside of France, regarding their age. The character is supposed to be 14, but looks much younger. That's why the twins will apparently get [[AgeLift age-lifted]] in the American remake.
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** Also meta version : is the show getting a American (by A&E) and a British remake (by Paul Abott) a good thing or not ? Some people say yes because it means the show is getting international fame, will bring money, and will be more enjoyable for foreign viewer unfamiliar with th "Frenchness" of the show, who couldn't relate to the original, and also an opportunity to do better because of the bigger budget. But for other, it's the opposite : the remake will overshadow the original which means it will be lost and forgotten instead of famous, it will make another 3 tv shows about the same subjet who was already exploited enough those days (World War Z, Resurrection, In The Flesh...), and if the remake is a fail, no one will watch or broadcast the original.
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* FandomBerserkButton: They're revenants, okay ? They're. Not. ZOMBIES !!

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* FandomBerserkButton: They're revenants, okay ? They're. Not. ZOMBIES !!Calling them "zombies" instead of revenants.
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* IdiotPlot: By the end of the first season, though revenants have been seen by a great many people [[spoiler: including the police]], nobody has attempted [[spoiler: to do a serious medical examination of one]] or [[spoiler: to notify the outside world of their existence]]. Other specific examples: not placing a camera in [[spoiler: the tunnel]]; not communicating in any meaningful way with [[spoiler: the horde]]; not turning [[spoiler: Victor]] over to the police [[spoiler: when he appeared to be a normal (if quiet) lost child, presumably with distraught parents somewhere]]; not warning the town of [[spoiler: an incoming long-term blackout]]. All decisions that should have been obvious to some or all of the people involved but [[IdiotBall somehow]] weren't, creating a lot of unnecessary mystery and suffering.

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* IdiotPlot: By the end of the first season, though revenants have been seen identified as such by a great many people [[spoiler: including the police]], nobody has attempted [[spoiler: to do a serious medical examination of one]] or [[spoiler: to notify the outside world of their existence]]. Other specific examples: not placing a camera in [[spoiler: the tunnel]]; not communicating in any meaningful way with [[spoiler: the horde]]; not turning [[spoiler: Victor]] over to the police [[spoiler: when he appeared to be a normal (if quiet) lost child, presumably with distraught parents somewhere]]; not warning the town of [[spoiler: an incoming long-term blackout]]. All decisions that should have been obvious to some or all of the people involved but [[IdiotBall somehow]] weren't, creating a lot of unnecessary mystery and suffering.
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Added trope: Idiot Plot (god I wish this had a less confrontational name)

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* IdiotPlot: By the end of the first season, though revenants have been seen by a great many people [[spoiler: including the police]], nobody has attempted [[spoiler: to do a serious medical examination of one]] or [[spoiler: to notify the outside world of their existence]]. Other specific examples: not placing a camera in [[spoiler: the tunnel]]; not communicating in any meaningful way with [[spoiler: the horde]]; not turning [[spoiler: Victor]] over to the police [[spoiler: when he appeared to be a normal (if quiet) lost child, presumably with distraught parents somewhere]]; not warning the town of [[spoiler: an incoming long-term blackout]]. All decisions that should have been obvious to some or all of the people involved but [[IdiotBall somehow]] weren't, creating a lot of unnecessary mystery and suffering.
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** Also meta version : is the show getting a American (by A&E) and a British remake (by Paul Abott) a good thing or not ? Some people say yes because it means the show is getting international fame, will bring money, and will be more enjoyable for foreign viewer unfamiliar with th "Frenchness" of the show, who couldn't relate to the original, and also an opportunity to do better because of the bigger budget. But for other, it's the opposite : the remake will overshadow the original which means it will be lost and forgotten instead of famous, it will make another 3 tv shows about the same subjet who was already exploited enough those days (World War Z, Resurrection, In The Flesh...), and if the remake is a fail, no one will watch or broadcast the original.
* FandomBerserkButton: They're revenants, okay ? They're. Not. ZOMBIES !!
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* AwesomeMusic : The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFvb7TvibNg&list=PLA4_jQeLtcJWJehQQf4oO2pGAHhuK8uun entire soundtrack]], by Mogwai.
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* AdaptationDisplacement : The series is far more popular than the original 2004 movie.
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* BrokenBase : Is this the poorman's {{LOST}} or the french {{TwinPeaks}} ? Are the writers [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants making it up as they go along]] or do they have precise answers planned out beforehand ? Will the second season be a great disappointment or not ? Is Victor [[TagalongKid cute]], [[CreepyChild terrifying]] or [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds both]] ?
* TheChrisCarterEffect : Depends on which side of the fandom you're asking, but even those who believe the writers to have a planned mythology are cautious about their chances to obtain all the answers they want.
* {{Squick}} : [[spoiler: The rot which begins to infect the Revenants' bodies is bad enough to look at... But then Simon proceeds to EAT HIS OWN FLESH oh dear god...]]

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