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** The fiery ''BOOM'' of the Elder Dragon's [[FinishingMove burning buff as it executes a low-health enemy]] is immensely satisfying if its your team that's using it, the perfect way to signify that you're about to win the game. Smolder -- another dragon who himself has [[MagikarpPower an evolving passive that gives him a similar executing buff by the late game]] -- produces a similar sound effect from executing enemies, and it's just as badass.
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** Only a handful of Summoner Spells have rotated in and out of play in the game's history (most now-removed ones only existed for [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness a short period in the game's formative years]]), but there's one that inexplicably lasted longer in spite of how terrible it was: Revive. Its ability? If you die, [[BackFromTheDead you instantly revive back at the fountain]]. The cost? A ''[[TooAwesomeToUse nine minute cooldown]]'', the longest cooldown of any ability in the game's history by a wide margin. Aside from a few extremely niche meme strategies (namely involving Karthus to pair up alongside with Teleport), the option was considered a massive waste of a Summoner Spell slot, with just about any other option providing more benefit in keeping you alive in a more regular basis. Due to it being so impractical to use yet also potentially risky to buff in any way, it was eventually removed in early season 5 -- Riot wouldn't end up bringing a revive mechanic back until 2021 with Akshan, who implements the concept in a substantially different way.

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** Only a handful of Summoner Spells have rotated in and out of play in the game's history (most now-removed ones only existed for [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness a short period in the game's formative years]]), but there's one that inexplicably lasted longer in spite of how terrible it was: Revive. Its ability? If you die, [[BackFromTheDead you instantly revive back at the fountain]]. The cost? A ''[[TooAwesomeToUse nine minute cooldown]]'', the longest cooldown of any ability in the game's history by a wide margin. Aside from a few extremely niche meme strategies (namely involving Karthus to pair up alongside with Teleport), Teleport to die in a teamfight, create space with his passive, revive, teleport back into the teamfight to make even more space), the option was considered a massive waste of a Summoner Spell slot, with just about any other option providing more benefit in keeping you alive in a more regular basis. Due to it being so impractical to use yet also potentially risky to buff in any way, it was eventually removed in early season 5 -- Riot wouldn't end up bringing a revive mechanic back until 2021 with Akshan, who implements the concept in a substantially different way.
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** Another pairing that is quite popular in the Japanese fanbase is for reasons unknown Lulu X Kog'maw.

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** Another pairing that is quite popular in the Japanese fanbase is for reasons unknown Lulu X Kog'maw.Kog'maw, likely due to their in-game synergy.
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** [=LeBlanc=] also slowly developed this reputation among lore-heads due to how despite her being portrayed as [[TheChessmaster a frightening chessmaster slowly controlling the course of Noxian history]], a lot of her more present-day operations have failed in ways that are highly unlikely as [[AllAccordingToPlan being part of the plan]]: on top of her gambit to have Swain sent to die in Ionia only resulting in him [[CameBackStrong coming back with demonic powers and becoming the new Grand General of Noxus]], the attempt at claiming the Chalikar resulted in Xerath, Renekton, and Azir's return and [[ResurgentEmpire the resurgence of the ancient Shuriman empire]], and the attempts [[TykeBomb to raise living weapons from childhood]] like Rell, Annie, and Briar have resulted in the former two escaping and destroying [[AcademyOfEvil the Black Rose academies]] they were raised in, and Briar became a colossal AxCrazy liability that failed two missions before being sealed up by Swain, later also escaping. With that track record, many lore nerds question [[KnowNothingKnowItAll if LeBlanc is actually as intelligent as she thinks she is]], and that somewhere, [[AncientEvil Mordekaiser]] is laughing at all the measures intended to keep him at bay going awry at once.

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** [=LeBlanc=] also slowly developed this reputation among lore-heads due to how despite her being portrayed as [[TheChessmaster a frightening chessmaster slowly controlling the course of Noxian history]], a lot of her more present-day operations have failed in ways that are highly unlikely as [[AllAccordingToPlan being part of the plan]]: on top of her gambit to have Swain sent to die in Ionia only resulting in him [[CameBackStrong coming back with demonic powers and becoming the new Grand General of Noxus]], her attempt at assassinating Swain losing her her greatest assassin and turning Katarina against the Black Rose as a whole, the attempt at claiming the Chalikar resulted in Xerath, Renekton, and Azir's return and [[ResurgentEmpire the resurgence of the ancient Shuriman empire]], and the attempts [[TykeBomb to raise living weapons from childhood]] like Rell, Annie, and Briar have resulted in the former two escaping and destroying [[AcademyOfEvil the Black Rose academies]] they were raised in, and Briar became a colossal AxCrazy liability that failed two missions before being sealed up by Swain, later also escaping. With that track record, many lore nerds question [[KnowNothingKnowItAll if LeBlanc is actually as intelligent as she thinks she is]], and that somewhere, [[AncientEvil Mordekaiser]] is laughing at all the measures intended to keep him at bay going awry at once. It doesn't help she's also effortlessly defeated by Ekko of all people in humiliating fashion in a ''Legends of Runeterra'' cinematic.



** On the similar lines to above, post-relaunch Kayle is a very contentious character. While she isn't portrayed as [[KnightTemplar a particularly]] [[JudgeJuryAndExecutioner nice character]] in canon, even by standards of other Demacian champions, many of her detractors tend to reduce [[BlackAndWhiteMorality her heavily law-centric thinking]] and warlike personality as her being a LawfulStupid LightIsNotGood villain, filing down the nuance to said judgement and the quiet moments [[BeneathTheMask where her mask falters]] to indicate that [[GodIsFlawed her flaws and self-dishonesty are intentional]]. Conversely, this interpretation is often paired [[DracoInLeatherPants with making Morgana and her more sympathetic personality far less flawed than she actually is]].

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** On the similar lines to above, post-relaunch Kayle is a very contentious character. While she isn't portrayed as [[KnightTemplar a particularly]] [[JudgeJuryAndExecutioner nice character]] in canon, even by standards of other Demacian champions, many of her detractors tend to reduce [[BlackAndWhiteMorality her heavily law-centric thinking]] and warlike personality as her being a LawfulStupid LightIsNotGood villain, filing down the nuance to said judgement and the quiet moments [[BeneathTheMask where her mask falters]] to indicate that [[GodIsFlawed her flaws and self-dishonesty are intentional]]. Conversely, this interpretation is often paired [[DracoInLeatherPants with making Morgana and her more sympathetic personality far less flawed than she actually is]]. It doesn't help that modern depictions of Kayle either depict her as a full-on UngratefulBitch and JerkAss (such as in the 2024 Season Start cinematic) or associate her with the Mageseekers (''VideoGame/TheMageseeker'').
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* InformedWrongness: Sylas in the ''Lux'' comics is depicted as being in the wrong for stealing Lux's magic and stockpiling it to free himself from being executed. But given that if he hadn't, he would have been murdered on the spot without trial (after already having been imprisoned unfairly for a decade), it's hard to see what other choice he had.
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** Only a handful of Summoner Spells have rotated in and out of play in the game's history (most now-removed ones only existed for [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness a short period in the game's formative years]]), but there's one that inexplicably lasted longer in spite of how terrible it was: Revive. Its ability? If you die, [[BackFromTheDead you instantly revive back at the fountain]]. The cost? A ''[[TooAwesomeToUse nine minute cooldown]]'', the longest cooldown of any ability in the game's history by a wide margin. Aside from a few extremely niche meme strategies (namely involving Karthus to pair up alongside with Teleport), the option was considered a massive waste of a Summoner Spell slot, with just about any other option providing more benefit in keeping you alive in a more regular basis, and it was eventually removed in early season 5.

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** Only a handful of Summoner Spells have rotated in and out of play in the game's history (most now-removed ones only existed for [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness a short period in the game's formative years]]), but there's one that inexplicably lasted longer in spite of how terrible it was: Revive. Its ability? If you die, [[BackFromTheDead you instantly revive back at the fountain]]. The cost? A ''[[TooAwesomeToUse nine minute cooldown]]'', the longest cooldown of any ability in the game's history by a wide margin. Aside from a few extremely niche meme strategies (namely involving Karthus to pair up alongside with Teleport), the option was considered a massive waste of a Summoner Spell slot, with just about any other option providing more benefit in keeping you alive in a more regular basis, and basis. Due to it being so impractical to use yet also potentially risky to buff in any way, it was eventually removed in early season 5.5 -- Riot wouldn't end up bringing a revive mechanic back until 2021 with Akshan, who implements the concept in a substantially different way.

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* ScrappyWeapon: Many items come and go in various metas, but many longstanding ones have received reputations of just being plain bad:

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** Only a handful of Summoner Spells have rotated in and out of play in the game's history (most now-removed ones only existed for [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness a short period in the game's formative years]]), but there's one that inexplicably lasted longer in spite of how terrible it was: Revive. Its ability? If you die, [[BackFromTheDead you instantly revive back at the fountain]]. The cost? A ''[[TooAwesomeToUse nine minute cooldown]]'', the longest cooldown of any ability in the game's history by a wide margin. Aside from a few extremely niche meme strategies (namely involving Karthus to pair up alongside with Teleport), the option was considered a massive waste of a Summoner Spell slot, with just about any other option providing more benefit in keeping you alive in a more regular basis, and it was eventually removed in early season 5.
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Not sure why I worded it this way, folks seem to generally like him, especially after the face fix (low winrate notwithstanding)


** Smolder got off to a very contentious start right out of the gate for a few reasons, one of which being his face (both for his in-game model and supplementary arts), which was criticized for looking too human-like for what was supposed to be a cute ''dragon'', an effect compared to that of [[Film/SonicTheHedgehog2020 Sonic the Hedgehog's first live-action design]]. Fortunately, Riot responded almost immediately to the backlash and adjusted his face to look less unnaturally smooth and baby-like while emphasizing his draconic features, nudging him out of the valley.

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** Smolder got off to made a very contentious start right out first impression because of the gate for a few reasons, one of which being his face (both for his in-game model and supplementary arts), which was criticized for looking too human-like for what was supposed to be a cute ''dragon'', an effect compared to that of [[Film/SonicTheHedgehog2020 Sonic the Hedgehog's first live-action design]]. Fortunately, Riot responded almost immediately to the backlash and adjusted his face to look less unnaturally smooth and baby-like while emphasizing his draconic features, nudging him out of the valley.
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** Smolder got off to a very contentious start right out of the gate for a few reasons, one of which being his face (both for his in-game model and supplementary arts), which was criticized for looking too human-like for what was supposed to be a cute ''dragon''. Fortunately, Riot responded almost immediately to the backlash and adjusted his face to look less unnaturally smooth and baby-like while emphasizing his draconic features, nudging him out of the valley.

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** Smolder got off to a very contentious start right out of the gate for a few reasons, one of which being his face (both for his in-game model and supplementary arts), which was criticized for looking too human-like for what was supposed to be a cute ''dragon''.''dragon'', an effect compared to that of [[Film/SonicTheHedgehog2020 Sonic the Hedgehog's first live-action design]]. Fortunately, Riot responded almost immediately to the backlash and adjusted his face to look less unnaturally smooth and baby-like while emphasizing his draconic features, nudging him out of the valley.
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A bunch of these entries were removed back when Uncanny Valley was disambig'd and never added back.

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* UnintentionalUncannyValley:
** During the summer of 2015 and the second wave of Pool Party skins, the official Team Up page used the Pool Party splash art used for the champions, which is perfectly normal, but before it was updated, the Garena website gave us [[http://i.imgur.com/s2nAxtI.png this version that makes Lulu look utterly horrifying.]]
** Kog'Maw's [[PreciousPuppy "Pug'Maw"]] skin treads this line -- while many are for the idea of making [[CuteMonster Kog'Maw]] resemble an actual dog, just as many players [[http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/05/dev-state-of-skins/ and even developers]] found that applying a pug-like face onto Kog'Maw's bizarre, alien silhouette was unnerving, [[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rcYtCYrZNW8/WMOhbkLTZZI/AAAAAAAAfzk/CWPIUnY3iRE-ZOLOwjtPDN3hj2twWWIoQCEw/s1600/kog%2B3compare.jpg and the textures had to be significantly altered on the PBE a few times]] for being both aesthetically out-of-place and just feeling too realistic and creepy, even by Kog'Maw's UglyCute-standards.
** The animated splash art for Seraphine's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw6lcOwO-D8 K/DA ALL OUT Ultimate skin Indie form]] moves disturbingly, swaying in a way that just looks ''wrong''. Her delayed and unnatural blinking and barely moving mouth do not help matters.
** Many of Seraphine's [[CharacterBlog "seradotwav"]] pictures -- which put [[RogerRabbitEffect an intentionally artificial CG character in real backgrounds]] -- run the gamut from "mostly innocuous" to "very unintentionally creepy" due to looking so unnaturally smooth and doll-like.
** Battle Academia Wukong got complaints surrounding this not from his splash art, but from his actual in-game model. While the artwork opted to scale him down from [[BeastMan an anthropomorphic monkey man]] to [[LittleBitBeastly a normal human with only a few monkey-like features]], the model (especially his head and face) doesn't quite go all the way with either interpretation, simply looking ''weird''. When combined with Wukong's distinctly outdated base rigging and low-fidelity animations, he ends up looking pretty freakish in movement too.
** Smolder got off to a very contentious start right out of the gate for a few reasons, one of which being his face (both for his in-game model and supplementary arts), which was criticized for looking too human-like for what was supposed to be a cute ''dragon''. Fortunately, Riot responded almost immediately to the backlash and adjusted his face to look less unnaturally smooth and baby-like while emphasizing his draconic features, nudging him out of the valley.
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* IKnewIt: In 2020, Riot teased one of their new champions as a masked assassin who refused to die, and was already present in the lore. Thanks to the subtle clues, several fans suspected it was Yone long before the above-mentioned leaks confirmed it.
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** Sett and Aphelios ended up a surprisingly popular ship despite never interacting in canon, largely due to being released around the same time (only a month between one another) and unintentionally forming an OppositesAttract dynamic with Sett the big, loud brawler vs. Aphelios the quiet, graceful assassin. [[AscendedMeme Riot later took notice of this]] for the two's Spirit Blossom incarnations, where [[ShipTease Aphelios is apparently Sett's "mooncake"]]. It got even ''more'' attention in ''Legends of Runeterra'' where Sett noticeably softens up around Aphelios and promises to protect him.

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** Sett and Aphelios ended up a surprisingly popular ship despite never interacting in canon, largely due to being released around the same time (only a month between one another) and unintentionally forming an OppositesAttract dynamic with Sett the big, loud brawler vs. Aphelios the quiet, graceful assassin. [[AscendedMeme Riot later took notice of this]] for the two's Spirit Blossom incarnations, where [[ShipTease Aphelios is apparently Sett's "mooncake"]]. It got even ''more'' attention in ''Legends of Runeterra'' where Sett noticeably softens up around Aphelios and promises promising to protect him.him, then later on they have a lot of ShipTease as bandmates in HEARTSTEEL.
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Evil Is Sexy has been dewicked.


* EvilIsSexy: ''League'' as a game is deliberately packed with attractive characters, and it's little wonder many of them are evil.
** Evelynn is a succubus who weaponizes her attractiveness to lure men into her clutches and wears nothing but black mist around her body.
** Katarina is a scantily-clad assassin from Noxus who balances her ruthlessness with a gorgeous appearance, her scarred face detracting nothing.
** [=LeBlanc=], head of the Black Rose conspiracy, is evil to the core but also heavily made-up in a gothic style, attractive, and not wearing much.
** Qiyana may be an AlphaBitch who's DrivenByEnvy, but it's hard to deny that she's very pretty and has a domineering attitude.
** Elise, despite being partially a spider, is nonetheless quite the looker, particularly with a large bust she makes little effort to cover.
** Renata Glasc may not be scantily-clad, but her charisma and business-like demeanor, alongside being one of the few older women in the game who looks her age, marks her as uniquely attractive and charming.
** For a given measure of "evil" considering his [[DependingOnTheWriter oscillating depictions]] as either an AntiHero or AntiVillain, Sylas comes off as extremely attractive thanks to being extremely buff and having a relationship with Lux that, while probably intended to be tragic and disturbing, instead comes off to many fans as outright FoeRomanceSubtext.
** Khada Jhin is a vicious, perpetually masked serial-killing MadArtist, but his sashaying SupermodelStrut and smooth voice mean he still comes off as attractive.
** Shieda Kayn, a very pretty WalkingShirtlessScene, is even considered attractive InUniverse by Akali due to his ripped appearance.
** Viego, the surprisingly young Ruined King, turns out to be a romantic villain who's practically [[WalkingShirtlessScene allergic to shirts]] and is simultaneously shredded and a PrettyBoy in looks, with a perpetually brooding demeanor and a desire to revive his dead wife.
** While Thresh is normally nowhere near "sexy" thanks to his being fully-armored and having a SkullForAHead, his Spirit Blossom skin (Which also recontextualizes him as a {{Yandere}} trying to put people's soul into his lantern to "protect them," which [[FetishizedAbuser only plays further into this]], his later stage as Unbound Thresh, a WalkingShirtlessScene with a surprisingly slim face and athletic build is quite the looker. Even in the "Night at the Inn" short which instead plays him as older and creepier, his nature as AManOfWealthAndTaste makes him come off as something of a SilverFox.
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* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Amumu thinks of himself as TheUnfavorite to the point where his selection quote is "I thought you'd never pick me...". In the season 2 meta-game he was on the permanently-banned list for his game-changing initiation and people scrambled to pick him whenever he wasn't banned. Even seasons later he's considered a solid pick and gets summoned in a decent percentage of matches.
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** [=LeBlanc=] also slowly developed this reputation among lore-heads due to how despite her being portrayed as [[TheChessmaster a frightening chessmaster slowly controlling the course of Noxian history]], a lot of her more present-day plans have failed in ways that are highly unlikely as being part of the plan: on top of her gambit to have Swain sent to die in Ionia only resulting in him [[CameBackStrong coming back with demonic powers and becoming the new Grand General of Noxus]], the attempt at claiming the Chalikar resulted in Xerath, Renekton, and Azir's return and [[ResurgentEmpire the resurgence of the ancient Shuriman empire]], and the attempts [[TykeBomb to raise living weapons from childhood]] like Rell, Annie, and Briar have resulted in the former two escaping and destroying [[AcademyOfEvil the Black Rose academies]] they were raised in, and Briar became a colossal AxCrazy liability that failed two missions before being sealed up by Swain, later also escaping. With that track record, many lore nerds question [[KnowNothingKnowItAll if LeBlanc is actually as intelligent as she thinks she is]], and that somewhere, [[AncientEvil Mordekaiser]] is laughing at all the measures intended to keep him at bay going awry at once.

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** [=LeBlanc=] also slowly developed this reputation among lore-heads due to how despite her being portrayed as [[TheChessmaster a frightening chessmaster slowly controlling the course of Noxian history]], a lot of her more present-day plans operations have failed in ways that are highly unlikely as [[AllAccordingToPlan being part of the plan: plan]]: on top of her gambit to have Swain sent to die in Ionia only resulting in him [[CameBackStrong coming back with demonic powers and becoming the new Grand General of Noxus]], the attempt at claiming the Chalikar resulted in Xerath, Renekton, and Azir's return and [[ResurgentEmpire the resurgence of the ancient Shuriman empire]], and the attempts [[TykeBomb to raise living weapons from childhood]] like Rell, Annie, and Briar have resulted in the former two escaping and destroying [[AcademyOfEvil the Black Rose academies]] they were raised in, and Briar became a colossal AxCrazy liability that failed two missions before being sealed up by Swain, later also escaping. With that track record, many lore nerds question [[KnowNothingKnowItAll if LeBlanc is actually as intelligent as she thinks she is]], and that somewhere, [[AncientEvil Mordekaiser]] is laughing at all the measures intended to keep him at bay going awry at once.
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** [=LeBlanc=] also slowly developed this reputation among lore-heads due to how despite her being portrayed as [[TheChessmaster a frightening chessmaster slowly controlling the course of Noxian history]], a lot of her more present-day plans have failed in ways that are highly unlikely as being part of the plan: on top of her gambit to have Swain sent to die in Ionia only resulting in him [[CameBackStrong coming back with demonic powers and becoming the new Grand General of Noxus]], the attempt at claiming the Chalikar resulted in Xerath, Renekton, and Azir's return and [[ResurgentEmpire the resurgence of the ancient Shuriman empire]], the attempts [[TykeBomb to raise living weapons from childhood]] like Rell, Annie, and Briar have resulted in the former two escaping and destroying [[AcademyOfEvil the Black Rose academies]] they were raised in, and Briar became a colossal AxCrazy liability that failed two missions before being sealed up by Swain, later also escaping. With that track record, many lore nerds question [[KnowNothingKnowItAll if LeBlanc is actually as intelligent as she thinks she is]], and that somewhere, [[AncientEvil Mordekaiser]] is laughing at all the measures intended to keep him at bay going awry at once.

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** [=LeBlanc=] also slowly developed this reputation among lore-heads due to how despite her being portrayed as [[TheChessmaster a frightening chessmaster slowly controlling the course of Noxian history]], a lot of her more present-day plans have failed in ways that are highly unlikely as being part of the plan: on top of her gambit to have Swain sent to die in Ionia only resulting in him [[CameBackStrong coming back with demonic powers and becoming the new Grand General of Noxus]], the attempt at claiming the Chalikar resulted in Xerath, Renekton, and Azir's return and [[ResurgentEmpire the resurgence of the ancient Shuriman empire]], and the attempts [[TykeBomb to raise living weapons from childhood]] like Rell, Annie, and Briar have resulted in the former two escaping and destroying [[AcademyOfEvil the Black Rose academies]] they were raised in, and Briar became a colossal AxCrazy liability that failed two missions before being sealed up by Swain, later also escaping. With that track record, many lore nerds question [[KnowNothingKnowItAll if LeBlanc is actually as intelligent as she thinks she is]], and that somewhere, [[AncientEvil Mordekaiser]] is laughing at all the measures intended to keep him at bay going awry at once.
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** [=LeBlanc=] also slowly developed this reputation among lore-heads due to how despite her being portrayed as [[TheChessmaster a frightening chessmaster slowly controlling the course of Noxian history]], a lot of her more present-day plans have failed in ways that are highly unlikely as being part of the plan: on top of her gambit to have Swain sent to die in Ionia only resulting in him [[CameBackStrong coming back with demonic powers and becoming the new Grand General of Noxus]], the attempt at claiming the Chalikar resulted in Xerath, Renekton, and Azir's return and [[ResurgentEmpire the resurgence of the ancient Shuriman empire]], the attempts [[TykeBomb to raise living weapons from childhood]] like Rell, Annie, and Briar have resulted in the former two escaping and destroying [[AcademyOfEvil the Black Rose academies]] they were raised in, and Briar became a colossal AxCrazy liability that failed two missions before being sealed up by Swain, later also escaping. With that track record, many lore nerds question [[KnowNothingKnowItAll if LeBlanc is actually as intelligent as she thinks she is]], and that somewhere, [[AncientEvil Mordekaiser]] is at bay laughing at all the measures intended to keep him at bay going awry at once.

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** [=LeBlanc=] also slowly developed this reputation among lore-heads due to how despite her being portrayed as [[TheChessmaster a frightening chessmaster slowly controlling the course of Noxian history]], a lot of her more present-day plans have failed in ways that are highly unlikely as being part of the plan: on top of her gambit to have Swain sent to die in Ionia only resulting in him [[CameBackStrong coming back with demonic powers and becoming the new Grand General of Noxus]], the attempt at claiming the Chalikar resulted in Xerath, Renekton, and Azir's return and [[ResurgentEmpire the resurgence of the ancient Shuriman empire]], the attempts [[TykeBomb to raise living weapons from childhood]] like Rell, Annie, and Briar have resulted in the former two escaping and destroying [[AcademyOfEvil the Black Rose academies]] they were raised in, and Briar became a colossal AxCrazy liability that failed two missions before being sealed up by Swain, later also escaping. With that track record, many lore nerds question [[KnowNothingKnowItAll if LeBlanc is actually as intelligent as she thinks she is]], and that somewhere, [[AncientEvil Mordekaiser]] is at bay laughing at all the measures intended to keep him at bay going awry at once.
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** [=LeBlanc=] also slowly developed this reputation among lore-heads due to how despite her being portrayed as [[TheChessmaster a frightening chessmaster slowly controlling the course of Noxian history]], a lot of her more present-day plans have failed in ways that are highly unlikely as being part of the plan: on top of her gambit to have Swain sent to die in Ionia only resulting in him [[CameBackStrong coming back with demonic powers and becoming the new Grand General of Noxus]], the attempt at claiming the Chalikar resulted in Xerath, Renekton, and Azir's return and [[ResurgentEmpire the resurgence of the ancient Shuriman empire]], the attempts [[TykeBomb to raise living weapons from childhood]] like Rell, Annie, and Briar have resulted in the former two escaping and destroying [[AcademyOfEvil the Black Rose academies]] they were raised in, and Briar became a colossal AxCrazy liability that failed two missions before being sealed up by Swain, later also escaping. With that track record, many lore nerds question [[KnowNothingKnowItAll if LeBlanc is actually as intelligent as she thinks she is]], and that somewhere, [[AncientEvil Mordekaiser]] is at bay laughing at all the measures intended to keep him at bay going awry at once.
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* CreepyCute: Briar might be a bloodthirsty little goblin girl, but her cheery and earnest demeanor make her a very endearing champion.
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** Gatekeeper Galio's judgments are based on [[Literature/TheDivineComedy Dante's Inferno]], with circles corresponding to the mentioned sin. Sejuani killed her mother, so she gets sent to the 9th Circle, which is for traitors. Minor sins ("being naïve" and "being a weirdo tree hugger") go to the 1st Circle, which the place where people go who didn't commit sins major enough to warrant damnation to the other circles but couldn't get into Heaven on account of not being Christian. Smoking gets the 3rd Circle (gluttony), and Garen gets the Eighth Circle (fraud) for [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking wetting the bed and blaming it on Lux]].
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** Pantheon's initial incarnation had fans, but his VGU is widely considered an improvement on all fronts. His original kit was functional and had several exciting quirks (namely [[DeathFromAbove his famed "Mandrop" ultimate]]), but the VGU vastly upgraded the maneuverability and emphasized the sheer ''strength'' of his bruiser gameplay, being a much clearer and more potent-feeling expression of how it feels to be [[PhysicalGod a godly Spartan]]. The changes to his lore and characterization were also acclaimed -- Pantheon's first post-ContinuityReboot backstory provided an interesting glimpse into Atreus, a character who was [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter disappointingly killed off]] after Pantheon (the Aspect of War) [[DeathOfPersonality hijacked his body and overrode his personality]]. Riot later realized the untapped potential with Atreus and brought him back in a new tale for Pantheon's VGU, ushering him in as [[LegacyCharacter the new incarnation of the Aspect of War]]. Along with a shift in characterization towards him being a nuanced WarriorPoet who [[HumansAreSpecial celebrates the strength of humanity]], Pantheon went from a generically "cool" Spartan warrior to being one of the most universally beloved badasses in the game.
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* EthnicScrappy: Nidalee has drawn increasing scrutiny over the years for her JunglePrincess design in ''League'', which is evocative of [[HollywoodNatives generic Mesoamerican "native" stereotypes]] (including bestial nature, FurBikini, and greatly flirtatious dialogue), with arguments pointing to her character being rooted in racist and misogynistic tropes towards indigenous women. For what it's worth, [[https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/dev/heart-of-the-huntress-nidalee-deep-dive/ Riot has grown aware of the more uncomfortable implications of her design]] and [[AuthorsSavingThrow has done more to distance the character from outdated concepts]], including redesigning her in subsequent appearances like ''Legends of Runeterra'' and redoing her voice work, including the removal of racier lines.

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* EthnicScrappy: Nidalee has drawn increasing scrutiny over the years for her JunglePrincess design in ''League'', which is evocative of [[HollywoodNatives generic Mesoamerican "native" stereotypes]] (including bestial nature, FurBikini, and greatly flirtatious dialogue), with arguments pointing to her character being rooted in racist and misogynistic tropes towards indigenous women. For what it's worth, [[https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/dev/heart-of-the-huntress-nidalee-deep-dive/ Riot has grown aware Riot's devs and artists have shown awareness of the more uncomfortable implications of her design]] and [[AuthorsSavingThrow has done more have taken steps to distance the character from outdated concepts]], including redesigning her in subsequent appearances like ''Legends of Runeterra'' and redoing her voice work, including the removal of racier lines.
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* EthnicScrappy: Nidalee has drawn increasing scrutiny over the years for her JunglePrincess design in ''League'', which is evocative of [[HollywoodNatives generic Mesoamerican "native" stereotypes]] (including bestial nature, FurBikini, and greatly flirtatious dialogue), with some arguing that her character is rooted on racist and misogynistic tropes towards indigenous women. For what it's worth, [[https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/dev/heart-of-the-huntress-nidalee-deep-dive/ Riot has grown aware of the more uncomfortable implications of her design]] and [[AuthorsSavingThrow has done more to distance the character from outdated concepts]], including redesigning her in subsequent appearances like ''Legends of Runeterra'' and redoing her voice work, including the removal of racier lines.

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* EthnicScrappy: Nidalee has drawn increasing scrutiny over the years for her JunglePrincess design in ''League'', which is evocative of [[HollywoodNatives generic Mesoamerican "native" stereotypes]] (including bestial nature, FurBikini, and greatly flirtatious dialogue), with some arguing that arguments pointing to her character is being rooted on in racist and misogynistic tropes towards indigenous women. For what it's worth, [[https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/dev/heart-of-the-huntress-nidalee-deep-dive/ Riot has grown aware of the more uncomfortable implications of her design]] and [[AuthorsSavingThrow has done more to distance the character from outdated concepts]], including redesigning her in subsequent appearances like ''Legends of Runeterra'' and redoing her voice work, including the removal of racier lines.
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They also explicitly did update her in part from awareness of her dated aspects.


* EthnicScrappy: Nidalee has drawn increasing scrutiny over the years for her JunglePrincess design in ''League'', which is evocative of [[HollywoodNatives generic Mesoamerican "native" stereotypes]] (including bestial nature, FurBikini, and greatly flirtatious dialogue), with some arguing that her character is rooted on racist and misogynistic tropes towards indigenous women. Riot appears to have become increasingly aware of the uncomfortable implications of her design and have done more to distance the character from outdated concepts, including redesigning her in subsequent appearances like ''Legends of Runeterra'' and redoing her voice work, including the removal of racier lines.

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* EthnicScrappy: Nidalee has drawn increasing scrutiny over the years for her JunglePrincess design in ''League'', which is evocative of [[HollywoodNatives generic Mesoamerican "native" stereotypes]] (including bestial nature, FurBikini, and greatly flirtatious dialogue), with some arguing that her character is rooted on racist and misogynistic tropes towards indigenous women. For what it's worth, [[https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/dev/heart-of-the-huntress-nidalee-deep-dive/ Riot appears to have become increasingly has grown aware of the more uncomfortable implications of her design design]] and have [[AuthorsSavingThrow has done more to distance the character from outdated concepts, concepts]], including redesigning her in subsequent appearances like ''Legends of Runeterra'' and redoing her voice work, including the removal of racier lines.

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Toning this down. There is indeed an increasing backlash against Nidalee's design that Riot feels the need to respond to, but I don't think the stereotypes are as all-encompassing and mean-spirited as TB Skyen makes it out to be — some folks enjoy the Jungle Princess theme for simple aesthetic reasons that aren't loaded with politique. Cleaning up Tyken's quote because it seems especially needless — the point stands without it.


* EthnicScrappy: Nidalee is a champ that's drawn scrutiny over the years for problematic elements of her design; being a dark-skinned woman from a Mesoamerican-inspired region, she draws on a lot of signifiers of HollywoodNatives like her bestial nature, FurBikini, and very provocative voice lines[[note]]including a "mating season" joke[[/note]] that reinforce some pretty racist and misogynistic tropes about indigenous women. Riot themselves seem to be taking steps to distance the character from her original design, including redesigning her in subsequent appearances like ''Legends of Runeterra'' and redoing her voice work, including the removal of racier lines.
-->'''WebVideo/TBSkyen:''' "The "savage, sexy jungle woman" trope has a troubling, problematic and ''extensively documented'' history in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpnfGsNimI colonialist and racist propaganda]], and it's honestly just '''''toe-curlingly''''' cringeworthy to see it reproduced so uncritically in ''[League]''.
--->"[[https://youtu.be/8gpnfGsNimI?t=961 Design Hot Take: Nidalee ]]"

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* EthnicScrappy: Nidalee is a champ that's has drawn increasing scrutiny over the years for problematic elements of her design; being a dark-skinned woman from a Mesoamerican-inspired region, she draws on a lot JunglePrincess design in ''League'', which is evocative of signifiers of HollywoodNatives like her [[HollywoodNatives generic Mesoamerican "native" stereotypes]] (including bestial nature, FurBikini, and very provocative voice lines[[note]]including a "mating season" joke[[/note]] greatly flirtatious dialogue), with some arguing that reinforce some pretty her character is rooted on racist and misogynistic tropes about towards indigenous women. Riot themselves seem appears to be taking steps have become increasingly aware of the uncomfortable implications of her design and have done more to distance the character from her original design, outdated concepts, including redesigning her in subsequent appearances like ''Legends of Runeterra'' and redoing her voice work, including the removal of racier lines.
-->'''WebVideo/TBSkyen:''' "The "savage, sexy jungle woman" trope has a troubling, problematic and ''extensively documented'' history in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpnfGsNimI colonialist and racist propaganda]], and it's honestly just '''''toe-curlingly''''' cringeworthy to see it reproduced so uncritically in ''[League]''.
--->"[[https://youtu.be/8gpnfGsNimI?t=961 Design Hot Take: Nidalee ]]"
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** There's also the fact that for Summoner Spells, most people usually end up using [[FlashStep Flash]] alongside another spell of their choice. It's not uncommon to see most, if not all of the players in any given match using it due to its sheer movement potential outweighing the movement speed buffs from the other options, as a short-ranged teleport that's able to go through walls can easily help secure or deny a potential kill.
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-->'''WebVideo/TBSkyen:''' "The "savage, sexy jungle woman" trope has a troubling, problematic and ''extensively documented'' history in colonialist and racist propaganda, and it's honestly just '''''toe-curlingly''''' cringeworthy to see it reproduced so uncritically in ''[League]''.
--->"[[https://youtube.com/shorts/kuzhQm6W2Bo?feature=share Design Hot Take: Nidalee ]]"

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-->'''WebVideo/TBSkyen:''' "The "savage, sexy jungle woman" trope has a troubling, problematic and ''extensively documented'' history in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpnfGsNimI colonialist and racist propaganda, propaganda]], and it's honestly just '''''toe-curlingly''''' cringeworthy to see it reproduced so uncritically in ''[League]''.
--->"[[https://youtube.com/shorts/kuzhQm6W2Bo?feature=share --->"[[https://youtu.be/8gpnfGsNimI?t=961 Design Hot Take: Nidalee ]]"
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* EthnicScrappy: Nidalee is a champ that's drawn scrutiny over the years for problematic elements of her design; being a dark-skinned woman from a Mesoamerican-inspired region, she draws on a lot of signifiers of HollywoodNatives like her bestial nature, FurBikini, and very provocative voice lines[[note]]including a "mating season" joke[[/note]] that reinforce some pretty racist and misogynistic tropes about indigenous women. Riot themselves seem to be taking steps to distance the character from her original design, including redesigning her in subsequent appearances like ''Legends of Runeterra'' and redoing her voice work, including the removal of racier lines.
-->'''WebVideo/TBSkyen:''' "The "savage, sexy jungle woman" trope has a troubling, problematic and ''extensively documented'' history in colonialist and racist propaganda, and it's honestly just '''''toe-curlingly''''' cringeworthy to see it reproduced so uncritically in ''[League]''.
--->"[[https://youtube.com/shorts/kuzhQm6W2Bo?feature=share Design Hot Take: Nidalee ]]"
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Unexpected Character applies to those the audience is already aware of; Seraphine debuting for K/DA doesn't count. Also moving the Ruined King example to its own page because that's only relevant to that specific game.


* UnexpectedCharacter:
** During K/DA's second major live concert in 2020, they debuted a new song, MORE, with all of them showing off their talents as part of their solos. As they finish their solos, a '''''fifth''''' solo starts, as a guest vocalist joins the group, social influencer and K/DA superfan ''Seraphine'', several months before she made her in-game debut!
** The main champion roster of ''Ruined King'' drew lots of surprised reactions upon announcement. While Miss Fortune and Illaoi were expected to a degree based off the Bilgewater/Harrowing setting, the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4L0OkSrsI8 "Kin of the Stained Blade"]] short not only built up to Yasuo and Ahri entering the mix, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Q3RE3GH1s the official reveal trailer]] introduced both ''Braum'' all the way from the Freljord and ''Pyke'' [[EnemyMine on the side of the heroes to fight the Ruined King.]]
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Rated M For Manly is about masculine works as a whole, not specific characters


** Despite the Japanese League of Legends community is known to be ''really'' small (since [[AmericansHateTingle PC gaming in Japan requires being rich or geeky enough to have two square meters to spare for a desktop computer]]); "cute" champions such as Fizz, Ahri, Sona, Lux, Annie, many yordles (such as Teemo, Tristana, Lulu, Kennen, and Veigar), and [[UglyCute lesser extent]] Kog'Maw have gotten a lot of popularity among the Japanese playerbase. In fact, it's common for Japanese League of Legends fanart to depict the said "cute" characters more than [[RatedMForManly manlier champions]] such as Darius and Garen; and it wouldn't be a surprise that if Japan gets their own League of Legends servers, the said cute champions will be the most played champions among the casual Japanese playerbase. Competitively speaking however, the Japanese meta is relatively similar to the Korean meta because the Korean servers is where most professional Japanese players look at.

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** Despite the Japanese League of Legends community is known to be ''really'' small (since [[AmericansHateTingle PC gaming in Japan requires being rich or geeky enough to have two square meters to spare for a desktop computer]]); "cute" champions such as Fizz, Ahri, Sona, Lux, Annie, many yordles (such as Teemo, Tristana, Lulu, Kennen, and Veigar), and [[UglyCute lesser extent]] Kog'Maw have gotten a lot of popularity among the Japanese playerbase. In fact, it's common for Japanese League of Legends fanart to depict the said "cute" characters more than [[RatedMForManly manlier champions]] champions such as Darius and Garen; and it wouldn't be a surprise that if Japan gets their own League of Legends servers, the said cute champions will be the most played champions among the casual Japanese playerbase. Competitively speaking however, the Japanese meta is relatively similar to the Korean meta because the Korean servers is where most professional Japanese players look at.

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