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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]]. Others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or, to Katrielle detractors, even '' better '' than Katrielle.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]]. Others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or, to Katrielle detractors, even far '' better '' than Katrielle.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]]. Others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or, to Katrielle detractors, even '' better, better '' than Katrielle.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]]. While others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or rather even '' better, '' to Katrielle if the aforementioned above as anything to go by.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]]. While others Others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or rather or, to Katrielle detractors, even '' better, '' to Katrielle if the aforementioned above as anything to go by.than Katrielle.
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: This is the only game in the main franchise that wasn't directed by series puzzlemaster Akira Tago, [[DiedDuringProduction since he'd passed away shortly before the game officially entered production]]. ''Katrielle'' shows just how important his guidance was, seeing how the ''Layton'' fanbase universally agrees that the puzzles in this game are the worst in the entire ''Layton'' franchise by a considerable margin.
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: This is the only game in the main franchise that wasn't directed by series puzzlemaster Akira Tago, [[DiedDuringProduction since he'd passed away shortly before the game officially entered production]]. ''Katrielle'' shows just how important his guidance was, seeing how the ''Layton'' fanbase universally agrees that the puzzles in this game (designed by Kuniaki Iwanami) are the worst in the entire ''Layton'' franchise by a considerable margin.
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** Katrielle is rather despised depending on who you ask within the fanbase. She tends to be seen as overbearing in contrast to her father, while others see her as a good ContrastingSequelMainCharacter with a noticeably different personality.
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** Katrielle is rather despised polarizing depending on who you ask within the fanbase. She tends to be seen as overbearing in contrast to her father, while others see her as a good ContrastingSequelMainCharacter with a noticeably different personality.
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: This is the only game in the main franchise that wasn't directed by series puzzlemaster Akira Tago, [[AuthorExistenceFailure since he'd passed away shortly before the game officially entered production]]. ''Katrielle'' shows just how important his guidance was, seeing how the ''Layton'' fanbase universally agrees that the puzzles in this game are the worst in the entire ''Layton'' franchise by a considerable margin.
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: This is the only game in the main franchise that wasn't directed by series puzzlemaster Akira Tago, [[AuthorExistenceFailure [[DiedDuringProduction since he'd passed away shortly before the game officially entered production]]. ''Katrielle'' shows just how important his guidance was, seeing how the ''Layton'' fanbase universally agrees that the puzzles in this game are the worst in the entire ''Layton'' franchise by a considerable margin.
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* SequelDifficultyDrop: Many of the puzzles are significantly easier than those of the previous trilogies (with those that aren't typically being of the "trick question" variety that the mainline series dropped after the [[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheCuriousVillage very first installment]]), and the overall mysteries are somewhat more obvious.
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* SequelDifficultyDrop: Many of the puzzles are significantly easier than those of the previous trilogies (with those that aren't typically being of the "trick question" variety that the mainline series dropped after the [[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheCuriousVillage very first installment]]), and the overall mysteries are somewhat more obvious. Even the post-game "Puzzle Rooms", typically the series' resident {{Brutal Bonus Level}}s, are an absolute ''breeze'' in comparison.
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: This is the only game in the main franchise that wasn't directed by series puzzlemaster Akira Tago, [[AuthorExistenceFailure since he'd passed away shortly before the game officially entered production]]. ''Katrielle'' shows just how important his guidance was, seeing how the ''Layton'' fanbase universally agrees that the puzzles in this game are the worst in the entire ''Layton'' franchise by a considerable margin.
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* ThatOnePuzzle: One of the things almost everyone in the ''Layton'' fanbase agrees on is that the puzzle quality in this game is significantly below the standard set by previous entries. Some of the more noteworthy stinkers include:
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* ThatOnePuzzle: One of the things almost everyone in the ''Layton'' fanbase agrees on is that that, without series puzzle master Akira Tago's direction, [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight the puzzle quality in this game is significantly below the standard set by previous entries.entries]]. Some of the more noteworthy stinkers include:
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* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: The satisfying "ding" of discovering a hint coin is topped only by the discovery of ''[[UpToEleven ten]]'' [[UpToEleven hint coins at once]].
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* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: The satisfying "ding" of discovering a hint coin is topped only by the discovery of ''[[UpToEleven ten]]'' [[UpToEleven ''ten'' hint coins at once]].once.
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** The game’s relaxed difficulty compared to previous entries and its simpler puzzles were a hard pill to swallow for veteran purist fans of the original Layton series, although newer fans are more forgiving.
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** The game’s relaxed difficulty more relaxed, less serious tone compared to previous entries and its simpler puzzles more simplistic puzzles, with an overemphasis on the "trick question" variety, were a hard pill to swallow for veteran purist fans of the original Layton ''Layton'' series, although newer fans are more forgiving.
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* SequelDifficultyDrop: Most of the puzzles are significantly easier than those of the previous trilogies, and the overall mysteries are somewhat more obvious.
* ThatOnePuzzle: "Happy Families" is a vague, ambiguous mess that perfectly showcases this game's drop in puzzle quality. At first glance, it seems pretty straightforward: guess the speaker's age based on clues about the ages of their siblings. However, the question is deliberately worded to trick you into making a false assumption that, when taken at face value, leads to an answer that is ''perfectly valid'' within the puzzle's constraints, and there's absolutely ''nothing'' in the puzzle to hint that your train of thought might be incorrect.[[spoiler:Going based on the information/deductions that the oldest girl is 22, the second oldest girl is 19, the oldest boy is 18, and the youngest boy is 15, you'd probably figure that the second oldest boy is between 15 and 18; since you know that he's four years younger than the narrator, no one is 20 or 21, and the second oldest girl is specifically stated not to be the narrator, you'd likely conclude that the second oldest boy is also 18 (with less than a year between his and the oldest boy's birthdays), and that the narrator is the oldest girl, at age 22. This fits perfectly within the puzzle's parameters, so everything's fine and dandy, right? ''Wrong''. You were supposed to somehow figure out that the "second oldest boy" and the "youngest boy" are ''the same person'', and that the narrator is the ''second oldest girl's twin sister''. '''''Absolutely nothing in the puzzle even remotely hints at this being a possibility.''''']] Even the hints are completely useless, only giving you information that most players could easily deduce by themselves. Apparently even Level 5 must have realized at one point just how terribly designed this puzzle was, because it's replaced in the Switch version by a completely different and ''much'' easier puzzle.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It's pretty common for fans to dislike this entry or even say it's the worst in the series, mostly due to the lowered puzzle difficulty, rather mundane cases, greater differences in the plot's writing as compared to previous games, and the overall less-serious tone of a good majority of it.
* ThatOnePuzzle: "Happy Families" is a vague, ambiguous mess that perfectly showcases this game's drop in puzzle quality. At first glance, it seems pretty straightforward: guess the speaker's age based on clues about the ages of their siblings. However, the question is deliberately worded to trick you into making a false assumption that, when taken at face value, leads to an answer that is ''perfectly valid'' within the puzzle's constraints, and there's absolutely ''nothing'' in the puzzle to hint that your train of thought might be incorrect.[[spoiler:Going based on the information/deductions that the oldest girl is 22, the second oldest girl is 19, the oldest boy is 18, and the youngest boy is 15, you'd probably figure that the second oldest boy is between 15 and 18; since you know that he's four years younger than the narrator, no one is 20 or 21, and the second oldest girl is specifically stated not to be the narrator, you'd likely conclude that the second oldest boy is also 18 (with less than a year between his and the oldest boy's birthdays), and that the narrator is the oldest girl, at age 22. This fits perfectly within the puzzle's parameters, so everything's fine and dandy, right? ''Wrong''. You were supposed to somehow figure out that the "second oldest boy" and the "youngest boy" are ''the same person'', and that the narrator is the ''second oldest girl's twin sister''. '''''Absolutely nothing in the puzzle even remotely hints at this being a possibility.''''']] Even the hints are completely useless, only giving you information that most players could easily deduce by themselves. Apparently even Level 5 must have realized at one point just how terribly designed this puzzle was, because it's replaced in the Switch version by a completely different and ''much'' easier puzzle.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It's pretty common for fans to dislike this entry or even say it's the worst in the series, mostly due to the lowered puzzle difficulty, rather mundane cases, greater differences in the plot's writing as compared to previous games, and the overall less-serious tone of a good majority of it.
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* SequelDifficultyDrop: Most Many of the puzzles are significantly easier than those of the previous trilogies, trilogies (with those that aren't typically being of the "trick question" variety that the mainline series dropped after the [[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheCuriousVillage very first installment]]), and the overall mysteries are somewhat more obvious.
* ThatOnePuzzle: One of the things almost everyone in the ''Layton'' fanbase agrees on is that the puzzle quality in this game is significantly below the standard set by previous entries. Some of the more noteworthy stinkers include:
** "Happy Families" is a vague, ambiguous mess that perfectly showcases this game's drop in puzzle quality. At first glance, it seems pretty straightforward: guess the speaker's age based on clues about the ages of their siblings. However, the question is deliberately worded to trick you into making a false assumption that, when taken at face value, leads to an answer that is ''perfectly valid'' within the puzzle's constraints, and there's absolutely ''nothing'' in the puzzle to hint that your train of thought might be incorrect.[[spoiler:Going based on the information/deductions that the oldest girl is 22, the second oldest girl is 19, the oldest boy is 18, and the youngest boy is 15, you'd probably figure that the second oldest boy is between 15 and 18; since you know that he's four years younger than the narrator, no one is 20 or 21, and the second oldest girl is specifically stated not to be the narrator, you'd likely conclude that the second oldest boy is also 18 (with less than a year between his and the oldest boy's birthdays), and that the narrator is the oldest girl, at age 22. This fits perfectly within the puzzle's parameters, so everything's fine and dandy, right? ''Wrong''. You were supposed to somehow figure out that the "second oldest boy" and the "youngest boy" are ''the same person'', and that the narrator is the ''second oldest girl's twin sister''. '''''Absolutely nothing in the puzzle even remotely hints at this being a possibility.''''']] Even the hints are completely useless, only giving you information that most players could easily deduce by themselves. Apparently even Level 5 must have realized at one point just how terribly designed this puzzle was, because it's replaced in the Switch version by a completely different and ''much'' easier puzzle.
** "Caught Four Speeding" presents you with five cars that were driving over the speed limit and tasks you with figuring out which driver wasn't charged with speeding. There are subtle visual differences between the cars, leading GenreSavvy ''Layton'' veterans to conclude that the crucial detail lies somewhere in there. [[spoiler:[[WrongGenreSavvy Nope]]; the trick is that you're supposed to assume the cars were driving in the order they're presented on the screen, and that the last car was the cop chasing the speeders]]. This might be considered a valid assumption to make... if it weren't for the fact that other puzzles in the game go out of their way to punish you for making that exact same kind of assumption. While the hints do help to steer you in the right direction, the puzzle overall seems deliberately designed to be a hint coin sink.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It's pretty common for fans to dislike this entry or even say it's the worst in the series, mostly due tothe lowered puzzle difficulty, puzzles being [[SchizophrenicDifficulty either laughably easy trivialities or infuriating trick questions, with very little middle ground between them]], rather mundane cases, greater differences in the plot's writing as compared to previous games, and the overall less-serious tone of a good majority of it.
* ThatOnePuzzle: One of the things almost everyone in the ''Layton'' fanbase agrees on is that the puzzle quality in this game is significantly below the standard set by previous entries. Some of the more noteworthy stinkers include:
** "Happy Families" is a vague, ambiguous mess that perfectly showcases this game's drop in puzzle quality. At first glance, it seems pretty straightforward: guess the speaker's age based on clues about the ages of their siblings. However, the question is deliberately worded to trick you into making a false assumption that, when taken at face value, leads to an answer that is ''perfectly valid'' within the puzzle's constraints, and there's absolutely ''nothing'' in the puzzle to hint that your train of thought might be incorrect.[[spoiler:Going based on the information/deductions that the oldest girl is 22, the second oldest girl is 19, the oldest boy is 18, and the youngest boy is 15, you'd probably figure that the second oldest boy is between 15 and 18; since you know that he's four years younger than the narrator, no one is 20 or 21, and the second oldest girl is specifically stated not to be the narrator, you'd likely conclude that the second oldest boy is also 18 (with less than a year between his and the oldest boy's birthdays), and that the narrator is the oldest girl, at age 22. This fits perfectly within the puzzle's parameters, so everything's fine and dandy, right? ''Wrong''. You were supposed to somehow figure out that the "second oldest boy" and the "youngest boy" are ''the same person'', and that the narrator is the ''second oldest girl's twin sister''. '''''Absolutely nothing in the puzzle even remotely hints at this being a possibility.''''']] Even the hints are completely useless, only giving you information that most players could easily deduce by themselves. Apparently even Level 5 must have realized at one point just how terribly designed this puzzle was, because it's replaced in the Switch version by a completely different and ''much'' easier puzzle.
** "Caught Four Speeding" presents you with five cars that were driving over the speed limit and tasks you with figuring out which driver wasn't charged with speeding. There are subtle visual differences between the cars, leading GenreSavvy ''Layton'' veterans to conclude that the crucial detail lies somewhere in there. [[spoiler:[[WrongGenreSavvy Nope]]; the trick is that you're supposed to assume the cars were driving in the order they're presented on the screen, and that the last car was the cop chasing the speeders]]. This might be considered a valid assumption to make... if it weren't for the fact that other puzzles in the game go out of their way to punish you for making that exact same kind of assumption. While the hints do help to steer you in the right direction, the puzzle overall seems deliberately designed to be a hint coin sink.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It's pretty common for fans to dislike this entry or even say it's the worst in the series, mostly due to
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* ThatOnePuzzle: "Happy Families" is a vague, ambiguous mess that perfectly showcases this game's drop in puzzle quality. At first glance, it seems pretty straightforward: guess the speaker's age based on clues about the ages of their siblings. However, the question is deliberately worded to trick you into making a false assumption that, when taken at face value, leads to an answer that is ''perfectly valid'' within the puzzle's constraints, and there's absolutely ''nothing'' in the puzzle to hint that your train of thought might be incorrect.[[spoiler:Going based on the information/deductions that the oldest girl is 22, the second oldest girl is 19, the oldest boy is 18, and the youngest boy is 15, you'd probably figure that the second oldest boy is between 15 and 18; since you know that he's four years younger than the narrator, no one is 20 or 21, and the second oldest girl is specifically stated not to be the narrator, you'd likely conclude that the second oldest boy is also 18 (with less than a year between his and the oldest boy's birthdays), and that the narrator is the oldest girl, at age 22. This fits perfectly within the puzzle's parameters, so everything's fine and dandy, right? ''Wrong''. You were supposed to somehow figure out that the "second oldest boy" and the "youngest boy" are ''the same person'', and that the narrator is the ''second oldest girl's twin sister''. '''''Absolutely nothing in the puzzle even remotely hints at this being a possibility.''''']] Even the hints are completely useless, only giving you information that most players could easily deduce by themselves. Apparently even Level 5 must have realized at one point just how terribly designed this puzzle was, because it's replaced in the Switch version by a completely different and ''much'' easier puzzle.
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** Katrielle is rather despised depending on who you ask within the fanbase. She tends to be seen as overbearing in contrast to her father.
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** The game’s relaxed difficulty compared to previous entries and its simpler puzzles were a hard pill to swallow for veteran purist fans of the original Layton series.
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** The game’s relaxed difficulty compared to previous entries and its simpler puzzles were a hard pill to swallow for veteran purist fans of the original Layton series.series, although newer fans are more forgiving.
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* TrailersAlwaysLie: All the promotional material for the game suggests that there will be [[spoiler: an overarching arc of Katrielle searching for her father, while his disappearance is really only mentioned in a few cutscenes and Kat is only seen searching for him in the intro.]]
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** Katrielle is rather devised depending on who you ask within the fanbase. She tends to be seen as overbearing in contrast to her father.
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** Katrielle is rather devised despised depending on who you ask within the fanbase. She tends to be seen as overbearing in contrast to her father.
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** You either love the characters, or find them '' very '' cliche/one cliche/ one dimensional.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]]. While others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or rather '' better, '' to Katrielle if the aforementioned above as anything to go by.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]]. While others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or rather even '' better, '' to Katrielle if the aforementioned above as anything to go by.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]]. While others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or rather '' better, '' to Katrielle if the aforementioned as anything to go by.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]]. While others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or rather '' better, '' to Katrielle if the aforementioned above as anything to go by.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]], while cooperating]]. While others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or rather '' better, '' to Katrielle if the aforementioned as anything to go by.
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** Some fans dislike Emiliana for her condescending attitude, her huge ego and [[AloofAlly trying to compete with Katrielle instead of just cooperating]], while others believe she's an effective {{Foil}}, or hell even rather '' better, '' to Katrielle if the aforementioned as anything to go by.
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