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** Life has been vicious to poor Mamoru. He's a monster who has to eat a ton of protein everyday so he doesn't go insane, possesses a childlike innocence and fear of the world around him, and you can tell that the last thing he wants is for all his friends to split up. [[spoiler:And by the end of the first season, he's given in to the instinct that causes him to crave human flesh, resulting in him ripping off one of his friend's arms for food, and when he realizes what he's done, he doesn't embrace it- he completely breaks down.]] The poor guy needs a hug...[[spoiler:[[SubvertedTrope Until Season 2]] breaks him down into a stoic warrior that decides to [[MoralEventHorizon cross the line]] by giving the humans everything they deserve in his eyes]].

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** Life has been vicious to poor Mamoru. He's a monster who has to eat a ton of protein everyday so he doesn't go insane, possesses a childlike innocence and fear of the world around him, and you can tell that the last thing he wants is for all his friends to split up. [[spoiler:And by the end of the first season, he's given in to the instinct that causes him to crave human flesh, resulting in him ripping off one of his friend's arms for food, and when he realizes what he's done, he doesn't embrace it- he completely breaks down.]] The poor guy needs a hug...[[spoiler:[[SubvertedTrope Until Season 2]] breaks him down into a stoic warrior an utter asshole that decides to [[MoralEventHorizon cross the line]] by giving the humans everything they deserve in his eyes]].
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The protagonist shift from Chihiro back to Haruka in season 2 is considered the point where it gets a bit better, though even then, some still consider all of season 2 as being pretty bad.
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** Outside the franchise, the second season is this to ''Anime/DarlingInTheFranxx'' due to their DarkerAndEdgier nature, the "humanity versus inhumanity" themes, and the similarities between their respective main characters.
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** Outside the franchise, the second season is this to ''Anime/DarlingInTheFranxx'' due to its DarkerAndEdgier nature, the "humanity versus inhumanity" themes, and the similarities between their respective main characters.

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** Outside the franchise, the second season is this to ''Anime/DarlingInTheFranxx'' due to its their DarkerAndEdgier nature, the "humanity versus inhumanity" themes, and the similarities between their respective main characters.

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* FandomRivalry: ''Amazons'' has one with fans of ''Series/KamenRiderGhost'' due to perceptions, true or not, that ''Ghost''[=‘=]s budget was leeched for ''Amazons''[=‘=] production leaving ''Ghost'' with reduced resources, Captain Ghost [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse disappearing from the series entirely]] and a less cohesive plot. Fans of ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' have this as a more minor case as if there were budget cuts due to ''Amazons Season 2'', ''Ex-Aid'' mostly planned around them.

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''Amazons'' has one with fans of ''Series/KamenRiderGhost'' due to perceptions, true or not, that ''Ghost''[=‘=]s budget was leeched for ''Amazons''[=‘=] production leaving ''Ghost'' with reduced resources, Captain Ghost [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse disappearing from the series entirely]] and a less cohesive plot. plot.
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Fans of ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' have this as a more minor case as if there were budget cuts due to ''Amazons Season 2'', ''Ex-Aid'' mostly planned around them. them.
** Outside the franchise, the second season is this to ''Anime/DarlingInTheFranxx'' due to its DarkerAndEdgier nature, the "humanity versus inhumanity" themes, and the similarities between their respective main characters.
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* HarsherInHindsight: For most of season 2, Takaaki Tenjo has little screen time and given the character's status as an EvilCripple takes a different turn when his actor Takashi Fujiki passed away on September 20th, 2021.

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* HarsherInHindsight: For most of season 2, Takaaki Tenjo has little screen time and given the character's status as an EvilCripple takes a different turn when his actor Takashi Fujiki passed away on September 20th, 2021.2020.
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* HarsherInHindsight: For most of season 2, Takaaki Tenjo has little screen time and given the character's status as an EvilCripple takes a different turn when his actor Takashi Fujiki passed away on September 20th, 2021.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: To some, the very notion of a hyper-gory DarkerAndEdgier ''Kamen Rider'' show sounds like complete anathema.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: To some, the very notion of a hyper-gory DarkerAndEdgier ''Kamen Rider'' show sounds like complete anathema. Its [[BrokenBase mixed reputation]] doesn't do it any favors, either.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: To some, the very notion of a hyper-gory DarkerAndEdgier ''Kamen Rider'' show sounds like complete anathema. Its [[BrokenBase mixed reputation]] doesn't do it any favors, either.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: To some, the very notion of a hyper-gory DarkerAndEdgier ''Kamen Rider'' show sounds like complete anathema. Its [[BrokenBase mixed reputation]] doesn't do it any favors, either.
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* {{Squick}}: ''[[TheMovie The Last Judgement]]'''s [[TheReveal big reveal]] that the film's orphans are [[spoiler: [[ToServeMan tamed Amazons created from Jin's cells]] [[PeopleFarm being raised as livestock]] [[EatingTheEnemy for people to eat]]]]. Already gross [[WouldHurtAChild for the worst]] [[UnfortunateImplications reasons]], it gets worse when [[spoiler: Muku begs Haruka to eat her in order to survive an otherwise fatal wound]].
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* {{Squick}}: ''[[TheMovie The Last Judgement]]'''s [[TheReveal big reveal]] that the film's orphans are [[spoiler: [[ToServeMan tamed Amazons created from Jin's cells]] [[PeopleFarm being raised as livestock]] [[EatingTheEnemy for people to eat]]]]. Already gross [[WouldHurtAChild for the worst]] [[UnfortunateImplications reasons]], it gets worse when [[spoiler: Muku begs Haruka to eat her in order to survive an otherwise fatal wound]].
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The protagonist shift from Chihiro back to Haruka in season 2 is considered the point where it gets a bit better, though even then, some still consider all of season 2 as being pretty bad.
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** The movie theme "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d3ykzs_7Wk&feature=youtu.be EAT KILL ALL]]" by Project R featuring Taro Kobayashi is no slouch either.

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** The movie theme "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d3ykzs_7Wk&feature=youtu.be EAT KILL ALL]]" by Project R featuring Taro Kobayashi is no slouch either.also pretty awesome.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: For those who were disappointed at this show's increasing bleakness during season 2 and ''The last Judgement'', some fans would prefer to stop watching the show altogether after season 1 ends.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: For those who were disappointed at this show's increasing bleakness during season 2 and ''The last Last Judgement'', some fans would prefer to stop watching the show altogether after season 1 ends.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: For those who were disappointed at this show's increasing bleakness during season 2 and ''The last Judgement'', some fans would prefer to stop watching the show altogether after season 1 ends.
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* TooBleakStopCaring: With lots of [[GrayAndGrayMorality moral ambiguity]], [[BloodierAndGorier graphic violence]], and {{Tragedy}}, ''Amazons'' is subject to this by Rider fans who are left to wonder what purpose ''Amazons'' has in a series primarily meant for children to the point where the reveal of TheMovie wasn't met by elation by fans hungry for more of the series but exasperation that it was still going. Not helped ''at all'' by the fact that no one makes any real progress after season 1, with everything instead slowly sliding into being ''worse''.

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* TooBleakStopCaring: TooBleakStoppedCaring: With lots of [[GrayAndGrayMorality moral ambiguity]], [[BloodierAndGorier graphic violence]], and {{Tragedy}}, ''Amazons'' is subject to this by Rider fans who are left to wonder what purpose ''Amazons'' has in a series primarily meant for children to the point where the reveal of TheMovie wasn't met by elation by fans hungry for more of the series but exasperation that it was still going. Not helped ''at all'' by the fact that no one makes any real progress after season 1, with everything instead slowly sliding into being ''worse''.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: With lots of [[GrayAndGrayMorality moral ambiguity]], [[BloodierAndGorier graphic violence]], and {{Tragedy}}, ''Amazons'' is subject to this by Rider fans who are left to wonder what purpose ''Amazons'' has in a series primarily meant for children to the point where the reveal of TheMovie wasn't met by elation by fans hungry for more of the series but exasperation that it was still going. Not helped ''at all'' by the fact that no one makes any real progress after season 1, with everything instead slowly sliding into being ''worse''.



* ToughActToFollow: ''Amazons Season 2'' was considered to be inferior than the first season due to the increasing darker moments in the show to the point of being [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy too dark]], even by Kamen Rider fans' standards.


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* TooBleakStopCaring: With lots of [[GrayAndGrayMorality moral ambiguity]], [[BloodierAndGorier graphic violence]], and {{Tragedy}}, ''Amazons'' is subject to this by Rider fans who are left to wonder what purpose ''Amazons'' has in a series primarily meant for children to the point where the reveal of TheMovie wasn't met by elation by fans hungry for more of the series but exasperation that it was still going. Not helped ''at all'' by the fact that no one makes any real progress after season 1, with everything instead slowly sliding into being ''worse''.
* ToughActToFollow: ''Amazons Season 2'' was considered to be inferior than the first season due to the increasing darker moments in the show to the point of being ''too bleak'', even by Kamen Rider fans' standards.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Kamen Rider, but with the tone of titles like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' and [[WorldOfJerkass everyone who isn't a jerk or incompetent is getting lead around by someone who is.]] See DarknessInducedAudienceApathy below.



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: With lots of [[GrayAndGrayMorality moral ambiguity]], [[BloodierAndGorier graphic violence]], and {{Tragedy}}, ''Amazons'' is subject to this by Rider fans who are left to wonder what purpose ''Amazons'' has in a series primarily meant for children to the point where the reveal of TheMovie wasn't met by elation by fans hungry for more of the series but exasperation that it was still going. Not helped ''at all'' by the fact that no one makes any real progress after season 1, with everything instead slowly sliding into being ''worse'' with no real resolution of ''anything'' at the end.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: With lots of [[GrayAndGrayMorality moral ambiguity]], [[BloodierAndGorier graphic violence]], and {{Tragedy}}, ''Amazons'' is subject to this by Rider fans who are left to wonder what purpose ''Amazons'' has in a series primarily meant for children to the point where the reveal of TheMovie wasn't met by elation by fans hungry for more of the series but exasperation that it was still going. Not helped ''at all'' by the fact that no one makes any real progress after season 1, with everything instead slowly sliding into being ''worse'' with no real resolution of ''anything'' at the end.''worse''.

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* CompleteMonster: In a series that runs on a [[GreyAndGrayMorality morally ambiguous]] scale, these characters stand out as the most vile:
** [[GreaterScopeVillain Takaaki Tenjo]] is the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Chairman]] of Nozama Pharmacy, helping develop the Amazonz, man-eating monsters that only have so long to live before becoming savage monsters. After their creation, Tenjo released the Amazonz from their lab [[TheSocialDarwinist to create an ecosystem where everyone will have to kill to survive]]. He and the other Nozama executives create the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Nozama Protection Service]] (NPS) to deal with these beasts, but will gladly keep thousands alive in secret to ensure the Amazon Cells stay in their property, even creating Amazon Sigma from one of the dead members of the NPS to succeed the other Amazons. Tenjo is later disgusted with Sigma, not out of standards, but because he lacks the need to kill to survive. By the series's end, Nozama Pharmacy is out of business and countless Amazons are left roaming in the world to kill all around them, and when Tenjo is confronted by his co-workers for his deeds, he expresses nothing but utter delight. [[GreyAndGrayMorality In a series that shows a tragic side to both heroes and man-eating monsters alike without either side winning in the end]], Tenjo stood out as a being of unrepentant evil who, despite Nozama getting shut down, [[TheBadGuyWins ultimately ended up getting all that he wanted]].
** [[CardCarryingVillain Soji Shitashimo]], from season 1's "GAME OF THE BUTCHERS" and "HERO OR NOT", proves that [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just as monstrous as Amazonz]]. Initially appearing to be a fitness-obsessed jerk, Shitashimo is actually a SerialKiller of women who uses his junkyard as a dumping ground. Upon realizing that he is being suspected for murdering another woman, he tries to kill two agents sent to investigate him, Nozomi and Mamoru, by burning them alive, and when that fails, he decides to torture them instead, binding them with chains and forcing one to watch as he beats the other with a pipe, mocking Mamoru for being an Amazon as he does so and telling him that he can only feel alive when beating something until it is "bloody broken and unable to move". Annoyed by Nozomi's attempts of ordering Mamoru to break the chains, he proceeds to savagely beat her in front of Mamoru with his own fists until her face is a bloodied mess, laughing at her suffering [[PsychopathicManchild like a child playing with a toy]]. His violent behavior serves to hide the fact that he is a DirtyCoward who begs to be spared when confronted in a proper fight. Unlike the Amazonz, Shitashimo is merely a vicious sociopath who enjoys killing innocent women simply because [[ForTheEvulz he can]].
** [[MadDoctor The Elephant Amazon]], from season 2's "PERSONA NON GRATA" and "QUO VADIS?", is the most repulsive New-Type to be investigated by the 4C. Using his clinic as a front to find unsuspecting victims, Elephant's method of killing his prey consists of inserting a long proboscis into the victim's ear and [[BrainFood dissolve the brain]] while they are still conscious, having done this to four people in just one week. After drinking the brain of a woman and leaving her to convulse, Elephant killed a random man, before trying to do the same to a woman who found the body, excitingly calling her his next patient. A callous sadist who gladly accepted his nature, Elephant was a reminder that not every Amazon tried to contain the craving for human flesh.
** ''The Last Judgement'': [[HalfHumanHybrid Einosuke Mido]]/[[WouldHurtAChild Kamen Rider Amazon Neo Alpha]] is the militant anti-Amazon director of the Amazon Livestock Project and one of the worst examples of a BoomerangBigot in the franchise. As a human-Amazon hybrid working for the pro-human leader of 4C, Mido keeps the original Alpha as his slave and routinely takes his cells to raise herbivore Amazon children, brainwashing them with the nihilistic philosophy that they are born to serve humans, converting an {{orphanage|Of Fear}} into his own Amazon Farm. When the orphans are ready, Mido sells them to rich humans and they are butchered to be made into exquisite food. After one of his orphans retaliates by killing an important politician who would greenlight his project, Mido is furious to see that such "cattle" could "dare defy noble humans" and rampages through the orphanage and outside, gunning down several orphans in his path while informing them that "cattle don't need dreams".

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* CompleteMonster: In a series that runs on a [[GreyAndGrayMorality morally ambiguous]] scale, these characters stand out as the most vile:
** [[GreaterScopeVillain Takaaki Tenjo]] is the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Chairman]] of Nozama Pharmacy, helping develop the Amazonz, man-eating monsters that only have so long to live before becoming savage monsters. After their creation, Tenjo released the Amazonz from their lab [[TheSocialDarwinist to create an ecosystem where everyone will have to kill to survive]]. He and the other Nozama executives create the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Nozama Protection Service]] (NPS) to deal with these beasts, but will gladly keep thousands alive in secret to ensure the Amazon Cells stay in their property, even creating Amazon Sigma from one of the dead members of the NPS to succeed the other Amazons. Tenjo is later disgusted with Sigma, not out of standards, but because he lacks the need to kill to survive. By the series's end, Nozama Pharmacy is out of business and countless Amazons are left roaming in the world to kill all around them, and when Tenjo is confronted by his co-workers for his deeds, he expresses nothing but utter delight. [[GreyAndGrayMorality In a series that shows a tragic side to both heroes and man-eating monsters alike without either side winning in the end]], Tenjo stood out as a being of unrepentant evil who, despite Nozama getting shut down, [[TheBadGuyWins ultimately ended up getting all that he wanted]].
** [[CardCarryingVillain Soji Shitashimo]], from season 1's "GAME OF THE BUTCHERS" and "HERO OR NOT", proves that [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just as monstrous as Amazonz]]. Initially appearing to be a fitness-obsessed jerk, Shitashimo is actually a SerialKiller of women who uses his junkyard as a dumping ground. Upon realizing that he is being suspected for murdering another woman, he tries to kill two agents sent to investigate him, Nozomi and Mamoru, by burning them alive, and when that fails, he decides to torture them instead, binding them with chains and forcing one to watch as he beats the other with a pipe, mocking Mamoru for being an Amazon as he does so and telling him that he can only feel alive when beating something until it is "bloody broken and unable to move". Annoyed by Nozomi's attempts of ordering Mamoru to break the chains, he proceeds to savagely beat her in front of Mamoru with his own fists until her face is a bloodied mess, laughing at her suffering [[PsychopathicManchild like a child playing with a toy]]. His violent behavior serves to hide the fact that he is a DirtyCoward who begs to be spared when confronted in a proper fight. Unlike the Amazonz, Shitashimo is merely a vicious sociopath who enjoys killing innocent women simply because [[ForTheEvulz he can]].
** [[MadDoctor The Elephant Amazon]], from season 2's "PERSONA NON GRATA" and "QUO VADIS?", is the most repulsive New-Type to be investigated by the 4C. Using his clinic as a front to find unsuspecting victims, Elephant's method of killing his prey consists of inserting a long proboscis into the victim's ear and [[BrainFood dissolve the brain]] while they are still conscious, having done this to four people in just one week. After drinking the brain of a woman and leaving her to convulse, Elephant killed a random man, before trying to do the same to a woman who found the body, excitingly calling her his next patient. A callous sadist who gladly accepted his nature, Elephant was a reminder that not every Amazon tried to contain the craving for human flesh.
** ''The Last Judgement'': [[HalfHumanHybrid Einosuke Mido]]/[[WouldHurtAChild Kamen Rider Amazon Neo Alpha]] is the militant anti-Amazon director of the Amazon Livestock Project and one of the worst examples of a BoomerangBigot in the franchise. As a human-Amazon hybrid working for the pro-human leader of 4C, Mido keeps the original Alpha as his slave and routinely takes his cells to raise herbivore Amazon children, brainwashing them with the nihilistic philosophy that they are born to serve humans, converting an {{orphanage|Of Fear}} into his own Amazon Farm. When the orphans are ready, Mido sells them to rich humans and they are butchered to be made into exquisite food. After one of his orphans retaliates by killing an important politician who would greenlight his project, Mido is furious to see that such "cattle" could "dare defy noble humans" and rampages through the orphanage and outside, gunning down several orphans in his path while informing them that "cattle don't need dreams".
See [[Monster/KamenRider here]].

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