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* {{Squick}}: "All I see is [[UnusualEuphemism pork swords]].
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* {{Squick}}: "All I see is [[UnusualEuphemism pork swords]]."
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* EsotericHappyEnding: More than a few people have [[AbusiveParents very]] [[ParentalNeglect dark]] [[MyBelovedSmother interpretations]] of where Vanessa's relationship with Juno's son might lead. Though Vanessa is painted sympathetically for her desire for motherhood, many viewers have expressed doubt if she's really up to the task, seeing her faults as a character and her treatment of Mark as rather ominous indicators.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: More than a few people have [[AbusiveParents very]] [[ParentalNeglect dark]] [[MyBelovedSmother interpretations]] of where Vanessa's relationship The film ends with Vanessa choosing to go ahead with adopting Juno's baby in spite of her split with Mark. This is treated as an unambiguously happy ending, since it means that Juno's son might lead. Though will get to have a loving mother after all--but it also means that Vanessa is painted sympathetically for her desire for motherhood, will have to raise a child alone as a single mother while reeling from a very painful divorce, leaving many viewers have expressed doubt if with serious doubts about whether she's really actually up to the task, seeing her faults as a character and her treatment task. You can't help but wonder what kind of Mark as rather ominous indicators.childhood Juno's son will end up having.
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* EpilepticTrees: Since the actor's coming out, many fans have imagined the character Juno growing up to become a lesbian herself.
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* EpilepticTrees: Since the actor's coming out, Elliot Page's transition, many fans have imagined the character Juno growing up to become a lesbian herself.transgender as well.
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* HarsherInHindsight: With the economic recession of 2008 occurring just a year after the film's release, the future of Juno's son in Vanessa's hands can be seen as particularly bleak.
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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
** With the economic recession of 2008 occurring just a year after the film's release, the future of Juno's son in Vanessa's hands can be seen as particularly bleak.
** With the economic recession of 2008 occurring just a year after the film's release, the future of Juno's son in Vanessa's hands can be seen as particularly bleak.
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** Hearing Juno reply, "I'm not sure what kind of girl I am," becomes this now that the actor has come out as a transgender man.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: One of most contentious examples in recent years; more than a few people have [[AbusiveParents very]] [[ParentalNeglect dark]] [[MyBelovedSmother interpretations]] of where Vanessa's relationship with Juno's son might lead. Though Vanessa is painted sympathetically for her desire for motherhood, many viewers have expressed doubt if she's really up to the task, seeing her faults as a character and her treatment of Mark as rather ominous indicators.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: One of most contentious examples in recent years; more More than a few people have [[AbusiveParents very]] [[ParentalNeglect dark]] [[MyBelovedSmother interpretations]] of where Vanessa's relationship with Juno's son might lead. Though Vanessa is painted sympathetically for her desire for motherhood, many viewers have expressed doubt if she's really up to the task, seeing her faults as a character and her treatment of Mark as rather ominous indicators.
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** Likewise, critics have interpreted the film as being covertly right-wing; the actions of most of the characters (barring Mark) never fall outside of the framework of conservative American values, such as the importance of personal responsibility, hard work, and family. It's important to note that Cody is a die hard liberal and has bashed conservatives on numerous occasions so this was likely unintentional.
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** Likewise, critics have interpreted the film as being covertly right-wing; the actions of most of the characters (barring Mark) never fall outside of the framework of conservative American values, such as the importance of personal responsibility, hard work, and family. It's important to note that Cody is a die hard liberal and has bashed conservatives on numerous occasions so this was [[AuthorAvatar likely unintentional.unintentional]].
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No Lewdness, No Prudishness. Troping people's fetishes is WAY too much information, especially because this has nothing to do with the movie.
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** And then there are those that use the film as a tool to promote pro-life or pro-choice arguments with regards to abortion, when WordOfGod indicates that the film was meant to be neutral on the subject.
** Not by a whole lot, but pregnancy fetishists have a great admiration for this movie, especially the scene in which Juno enthusiastically rolls up her shirt for Vanessa at the mall.
** And then there are those that use the film as a tool to promote pro-life or pro-choice arguments with regards to abortion, when WordOfGod indicates that the film was meant to be neutral on the subject.
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* MisaimedFandom:
** Not by a whole lot, but pregnancy fetishists have a great admiration for this movie, especially the scene in which Juno enthusiastically rolls up her shirt for Vanessa at the mall.
** And then thereMisaimedFandom: There are those that use the film as a tool to promote pro-life or pro-choice arguments with regards to abortion, when WordOfGod indicates that the film was meant to be neutral on the subject.
** Not by a whole lot, but pregnancy fetishists have a great admiration for this movie, especially the scene in which Juno enthusiastically rolls up her shirt for Vanessa at the mall.
** And then there
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** After Creator/ElliotPage came out (as a lesbian - he wouldn't come out as transgender for several more years), it's ironic that Juno suggests giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" and comments that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay". Page has also suggested that his character would eventually have come out too given enough time.
*** His coming out as trans ''and'' non-binary also adds an extra edge to Juno saying "That's what you think" when told male or female are the only options for her baby.
*** His coming out as trans ''and'' non-binary also adds an extra edge to Juno saying "That's what you think" when told male or female are the only options for her baby.
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** After Creator/ElliotPage came out (as a lesbian - he wouldn't come out as transgender for several more years), it's ironic that Juno suggests giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" and comments that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay". Page has also suggested that his character would eventually have come out too given enough time.
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** [[Series/TheVampireDiaries Caroline Forbes]] as classmate Amanda.
* RonTheDeathEater[=/=]TheScrappy: Vanessa is subject to this by haters of the film. Mark is by many people too.
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**RetroactiveRecognition: [[Series/TheVampireDiaries Caroline Forbes]] as classmate Amanda.
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** Likewise, critics have interpreted the film as being covertly right-wing; the actions of most of the characters (barring Mark) never fall outside of the framework of conservative American values, such as the importance of personal responsibility, hard work, and family.
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** Is Juno truly happy with giving her son up to Vanessa? Is Vanessa up to the task of raising him?
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** After Creator/ElliotPage came out (as a lesbian - they wouldn't come out as transgender for several more years), it's ironic that Juno suggests giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" and comments that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay". Page has also suggested that their character would eventually have come out too given enough time.
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** After Creator/ElliotPage came out (as a lesbian - they he wouldn't come out as transgender for several more years), it's ironic that Juno suggests giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" and comments that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay". Page has also suggested that their his character would eventually have come out too given enough time.
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** After [[Creator/EllenPage Elliot Page]] came out (as a lesbian - they wouldn't come out as transgender for several more years), it's ironic that Juno suggests giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" and comments that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay". Page has also suggested that their character would eventually have come out too given enough time.
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** After [[Creator/EllenPage Elliot Page]] Creator/ElliotPage came out (as a lesbian - they wouldn't come out as transgender for several more years), it's ironic that Juno suggests giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" and comments that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay". Page has also suggested that their character would eventually have come out too given enough time.
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** In the same vein as MisaimedFandom above, there are pro-life activists who use the film as a tool against abortion, although Creator/DiabloCody and Elliot Page are both pro-choice. Cody has expressed regret over this; she says that Juno choosing not to have an abortion was a personal decision, not a commentary that abortion was automatically wrong in every situation.
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** In the same vein as MisaimedFandom above, there are pro-life activists who use the film as a tool against abortion, although Creator/DiabloCody and Elliot Page Creator/ElliotPage are both pro-choice. Cody has expressed regret over this; she says that Juno choosing not to have an abortion was a personal decision, not a commentary that abortion was automatically wrong in every situation.
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** After Creator/EllenPage [[Creator/EllenPage Elliot Page]] came out, out (as a lesbian - they wouldn't come out as transgender for several more years), it's ironic that Juno suggests giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" and comments that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay". Page has also suggested that her their character would eventually have come out too given enough time.
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** In the same vein as MisaimedFandom above, there are pro-life activists who use the film as a tool against abortion, although Creator/DiabloCody and Creator/EllenPage are both pro-choice. Cody has expressed regret over this; she says that Juno choosing not to have an abortion was a personal decision, not a commentary that abortion was automatically wrong in every situation.
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** In the same vein as MisaimedFandom above, there are pro-life activists who use the film as a tool against abortion, although Creator/DiabloCody and Creator/EllenPage Elliot Page are both pro-choice. Cody has expressed regret over this; she says that Juno choosing not to have an abortion was a personal decision, not a commentary that abortion was automatically wrong in every situation.
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%%* ValuesDissonance:
** A mild case. The film came out right before hipsters were marked as AcceptableTargets, so within the span of about a year the middle-class teenager with a penchant for vintage clothes, indie music, and witty one-liners went from being endearing to insufferable.
** Juno says "kinda gay" to describe the name Madison, a terminology that won't sit well in this day and age with LGBT people. Page, who has since come out as a lesbian herself, [[OldShame regrets it]].
** A mild case. The film came out right before hipsters were marked as AcceptableTargets, so within the span of about a year the middle-class teenager with a penchant for vintage clothes, indie music, and witty one-liners went from being endearing to insufferable.
** Juno says "kinda gay" to describe the name Madison, a terminology that won't sit well in this day and age with LGBT people. Page, who has since come out as a lesbian herself, [[OldShame regrets it]].
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* {{Squick}}: Oh, GOD. Those [[UnusualEuphemism PORK SWORDS]]!!!
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* HarsherInHindsight: With the economic recession of 2008 occurring just a year after the film's release, the future of Juno's son in Vanessa's hands can be seen as particularly bleak. In addition, with the increased cynicism in UsefulNotes/TheNewTens towards ThePowerOfLove, family, and human nature in general, a character like Vanessa would be seen as a WideEyedIdealist at best.
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* HarsherInHindsight: With the economic recession of 2008 occurring just a year after the film's release, the future of Juno's son in Vanessa's hands can be seen as particularly bleak. In addition, with the increased cynicism in UsefulNotes/TheNewTens towards ThePowerOfLove, family, and human nature in general, a character like Vanessa would be seen as a WideEyedIdealist at best.
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** With Mark, is he a deadbeat who doesn't want to face responsibility, or is he someone who is tired of being in a relationship where he’s forced to conform to everything his wife wants?
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** With Mark, is he a deadbeat who doesn't want to face responsibility, or is he someone who is tired of being in a relationship where he’s he's forced to conform to everything his wife wants?
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* AngstWhatAngst: Becoming pregnant at such a young age doesn't seem to faze Juno all that much, but then she is an overly flippant teen. Averted later following the delivery, where -- whether it boils down to grief, exhaustion, crashing hormones, or some combination of all three -- she seems actually relatively upset.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Becoming pregnant at such a young age doesn't seem to faze Juno all that much, but then then, she is an overly flippant overly-flippant teen. Averted later following the delivery, where -- whether it boils down to grief, exhaustion, crashing hormones, or some combination of all three -- she seems actually relatively upset.
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** After Creator/EllenPage came out, it is ironic that Juno suggested giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" or commented that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay". Page has also suggested that her character would eventually have come out too given enough time.
** Creator/JKSimmons and Creator/AllisonJanney playing Juno's {{Open Minded Parent}}s (well, open-minded stepmother in Janney's case) is hilarious now that they both have won Oscars in Supporting Roles for playing [[AbusiveParents horribly]] [[SadistTeacher abusive]] [[SirSwearsALot foul-mouthed]] mentors: Simmons as Terrence Fletcher in ''Film/{{Whiplash}}'' and Janney as Lavona Harding in ''Film/ITonya''.
** Creator/JKSimmons and Creator/AllisonJanney playing Juno's {{Open Minded Parent}}s (well, open-minded stepmother in Janney's case) is hilarious now that they both have won Oscars in Supporting Roles for playing [[AbusiveParents horribly]] [[SadistTeacher abusive]] [[SirSwearsALot foul-mouthed]] mentors: Simmons as Terrence Fletcher in ''Film/{{Whiplash}}'' and Janney as Lavona Harding in ''Film/ITonya''.
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** After Creator/EllenPage came out, it is it's ironic that Juno suggested suggests giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" or commented and comments that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay". Page has also suggested that her character would eventually have come out too given enough time.
** Creator/JKSimmons and Creator/AllisonJanney playing Juno's {{Open Minded Parent}}s (well, open-minded stepmother in Janney's case) is hilarious now that they both have won Oscars in Supporting Roles for playing [[AbusiveParents horribly]] [[SadistTeacherabusive]] abusive]], [[SirSwearsALot foul-mouthed]] mentors: Simmons as Terrence Fletcher in ''Film/{{Whiplash}}'' and Janney as Lavona Harding in ''Film/ITonya''.
** Creator/JKSimmons and Creator/AllisonJanney playing Juno's {{Open Minded Parent}}s (well, open-minded stepmother in Janney's case) is hilarious now that they both have won Oscars in Supporting Roles for playing [[AbusiveParents horribly]] [[SadistTeacher
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** We're supposed to sympathize with Juno who becomes pregnant at an early age. However, she seems oblivious to the consequences, [[AngstWhatAngst doesn't think it's such a big deal]] and it all works out for her in the end... [[EsotericHappyEnding kind of]].
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** We're supposed to sympathize with Juno Juno, who becomes pregnant at an early age. However, she seems oblivious to the consequences, [[AngstWhatAngst doesn't think it's such a big deal]] deal]], and it all works out for her in the end... [[EsotericHappyEnding kind of]].
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** A mild case. The film came out right before hipsters were marked as AcceptableTargets, so within the span of about a year the middle-class teenager with a penchant for vintage clothes, indie music music, and witty one-liners went from being endearing to insufferable.
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** In the same vein with MisaimedFandom above, there are pro-life activists who use the film as a tool against abortion, although Creator/DiabloCody and Creator/EllenPage are both pro-choice. Cody has expressed regret over this; she says that Juno choosing not to have an abortion was a personal decision, not a commentary that abortion was automatically wrong in every situation.
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** In the same vein with as MisaimedFandom above, there are pro-life activists who use the film as a tool against abortion, although Creator/DiabloCody and Creator/EllenPage are both pro-choice. Cody has expressed regret over this; she says that Juno choosing not to have an abortion was a personal decision, not a commentary that abortion was automatically wrong in every situation.
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* TheWoobie: Depending on who whom you ask, Vanessa and/or Mark.
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** After Creator/EllenPage came out, it is ironic that Juno suggested giving the baby to "a couple of nice lesbos" or commented that she thinks the name Madison is "kinda gay".
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** Juno says "kinda gay" to describe the name Madison, a terminology that won't sit well in this day and age with LGBT people. Page herself Page, who has since come out as a lesbian herself, [[OldShame regrets it]].
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** Juno says "kinda gay" to describe the name Madison, a terminology that won't sit well in this day and age with LGBT people.
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** Juno says "kinda gay" to describe the name Madison, a terminology that won't sit well in this day and age with LGBT people. Page herself [[OldShame regrets it]].
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* ValuesDissonance: A mild case. The film came out right before hipsters were marked as AcceptableTargets, so within the span of about a year the middle-class teenager with a penchant for vintage clothes, indie music and witty one-liners went from being endearing to insufferable.
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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
** A mild case. The film came out right before hipsters were marked as AcceptableTargets, so within the span of about a year the middle-class teenager with a penchant for vintage clothes, indie music and witty one-liners went from being endearing toinsufferable.insufferable.
** Juno says "kinda gay" to describe the name Madison, a terminology that won't sit well in this day and age with LGBT people.
** A mild case. The film came out right before hipsters were marked as AcceptableTargets, so within the span of about a year the middle-class teenager with a penchant for vintage clothes, indie music and witty one-liners went from being endearing to
** Juno says "kinda gay" to describe the name Madison, a terminology that won't sit well in this day and age with LGBT people.