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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Jim Ross has always been one to speak his mind when it comes to wrestling psychology he's having trouble following, and has stumbled over names relatively frequently. But, in AEW, where much less of a premium is placed on the former, sometimes to the point that the rules are openly ignored, he's often accused of actively burying the product, since he complains more often, and the latter comes up a lot because many of the company's wrestlers are indie darlings that neither he nor the audience are very familiar with. (Also, he's getting older.)

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Jim Ross has always been one to speak his mind when it comes to wrestling psychology he's having trouble following, and has stumbled over names relatively frequently.frequently in his career, even with wrestlers he likes and is friends with. But, in AEW, where much less of a premium is placed on the former, sometimes to the point that the rules are openly ignored, he's often accused of actively burying the product, since he complains more often, and the latter comes up a lot because many of the company's wrestlers are indie darlings that neither he nor the audience are very familiar with. (Also, he's getting older.)
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One's a long-time-coming entry I've been sitting on for a while, one's something I noticed while getting into wrestling and checking out a classic pay-per-view match I'd heard I should try. Wasn't to my taste, but he spent a lot of it pointing out Cactus wasn't going for pins on Triple H in favor of more battering.

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* BrokenBase: His tenure as a commentator for AEW is extremely contentious, since he has trouble remembering many competitors' names and gets audibly frustrated when he sees flagrant violations of the rules. (AEW's tag division in particular was notoriously, ahem, ''loose'' about the rules, especially the Lucha Bros. and especially early on.) Some fans feel he's making extremely legitimate criticisms of a product that's catering to jaded and snobbish indie fans at the expense of the "real sport presentation" they were sold, and that his trouble with names speaks to the promotion's difficulty in presenting and introducing many of its characters, and others complain that it's "proof" he's a past-his-prime fossil who has no business being behind a modern commentary booth and his burying the product he's watching is grossly unprofessional.
* FranchiseOriginalSin: Jim Ross has always been one to speak his mind when it comes to wrestling psychology he's having trouble following, and has stumbled over names relatively frequently. But, in AEW, where much less of a premium is placed on the former, sometimes to the point that the rules are openly ignored, he's often accused of actively burying the product, since he complains more often, and the latter comes up a lot because many of the company's wrestlers are indie darlings that neither he nor the audience are very familiar with. (Also, he's getting older.)
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Just something I can't help but notice lately. People who really like AEW tend not to like him, and they seem to be going back into the past to bury him and argue he was never good in the first place.


* SacredCow: Don't say anything even remotely negative about him to a fan or someone in the business. You'll be torn to shreds.

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* SacredCow: Don't say For a long time, saying anything even remotely negative about him to a fan or someone in the business. You'll business was an invitation to be torn to shreds.shreds. Unfortunately, his polarizing run as announcer for Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling has diluted this a great deal.
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* VitriolicBestBuds: With Wrestling/JerryLawler.

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* AmericansHateTingle: One of the most beloved wrestling announcers of all time, he was absolutely hated by football fans during his time commentating Vince's short-lived XFL.
* HilariousInHindsight: When Oklahoma parodied J.R. in [=WCW=], he started sporting a beard after a couple of weeks. Nowadays, J.R. himself sports a beard.
* IronWoobie: For all of the misfortunes Ross has suffered throughout his career, both on- and off-camera, it's amazing how much he's persevered.
** It's to the point where he just doesn't care. During his brief comeback in 2011 on the RAW after the HHH walkout/duty-relieving, they didn't tell JR that John Laurinaitis would relieve him of his announcing gig in the ring. When new GM Johnny Ace told JR to meet him in the ring, he knew what was coming, and after being told that he was indeed being fired, JR quickly tipped his hat and hurried out the ring and to the back, making sure his umpteenth HumiliationConga was as quick as possible.
* MemeticMutation: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBAXWZ6vLRc FRUITY! DELICIOUS! DELICIOUS! FRUITY! FRUITY! BAH GAWD THEY'RE FRUITY! SKITTLES!]]

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* AmericansHateTingle: One of the most beloved wrestling announcers of all time, he was absolutely hated by football fans during his time commentating Vince's Vince [=McMahon's=] short-lived XFL.
* HilariousInHindsight: When Oklahoma parodied J.R. in [=WCW=], he started sporting a beard after a couple of weeks. Nowadays, In the 2010s, J.R. himself sports a beard.
* IronWoobie: For all of the misfortunes Ross has suffered throughout his career, both on- and off-camera, it's amazing how much he's persevered.
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persevered. It's to the point where he just doesn't care. During One example was during his brief comeback in 2011 on the RAW after the HHH walkout/duty-relieving, they didn't tell JR that John Laurinaitis would relieve him of his announcing gig in the ring. When new GM Johnny Ace told JR to meet him in the ring, he knew what was coming, and after being told that he was indeed being fired, JR quickly tipped his hat and hurried out the ring and to the back, making sure his umpteenth HumiliationConga was as quick as possible.
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** The way he once shilled Skittles: "[[https://www.
youtube.com/watch?v=nBAXWZ6vLRc FRUITY! DELICIOUS! DELICIOUS! FRUITY! FRUITY! BAH GAWD THEY'RE FRUITY! SKITTLES!]]SKITTLES!]]"



* {{Narm}}: A very serious, scary, possibly career ending injury has just happened. Everyone is in shocked silence. Except JR.
-->'''JR''': [Sees Mankind get thrown eight feet down through the announce table] BAH GAWD!
** TruthInTelevision right there; as stated above, JR tries to keep certain "big spots" and endings a secret so he can give more realistic play-by-play; while he might Flanderize himself a bit, it's usually at least partially his real reaction. When he doesn't have Vince or someone else feeding him lines in a headset... When he does, it often shows.



* ReplacementScrappy: Anyone who replaces Ross on the commentators' table is bound to get such a reaction.
** Wrestling/JoeyStyles is the only exception as he could be argued to be just as good as Ross (and he still got some backlash for not being JR, [[BrokenBase though some fans thought he might be better]]) - but he only lasted four months on the Raw announce team before JR was brought back.
** Ironically, WWE wanted Styles to abandon his ..style to be more like JR. When that didn't pan out, they brought JR back. Again.

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* AmericansHateTingle: One of the most beloved wrestling announcers of all time, he was absolutely hated by football fans during his time commentating Vince's short-lived XFL
* DudeNotFunny: When VinceRusso and Ed Ferrara arrived in Wrestling/{{WCW}}, one of their creations was [[Horrible/ProfessionalWrestling "Oklahoma"]], a paper-thin parody of Jim Ross, whose sole purpose was to mock JR - Russo and Ferrara considered JR's mannerisms, as well as his then-recent bout with Bell's Palsy, things that were okay to make fun of. For obvious reasons, ''everyone'' thought this was in bad taste, and "Oklahoma" was dropped in short order.
** Then Vince [=McMahon=] mocked his Bell's Palsy in a 2012 episode of RAW; [[HypocriticalHumor this obviously goes against the company's anti-bullying campaign]] and many superstars were quick to point out on Twitter the hypocrisy.

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* AmericansHateTingle: One of the most beloved wrestling announcers of all time, he was absolutely hated by football fans during his time commentating Vince's short-lived XFL
* DudeNotFunny: When VinceRusso and Ed Ferrara arrived in Wrestling/{{WCW}}, one of their creations was [[Horrible/ProfessionalWrestling "Oklahoma"]], a paper-thin parody of Jim Ross, whose sole purpose was to mock JR - Russo and Ferrara considered JR's mannerisms, as well as his then-recent bout with Bell's Palsy, things that were okay to make fun of. For obvious reasons, ''everyone'' thought this was in bad taste, and "Oklahoma" was dropped in short order.
** Then Vince [=McMahon=] mocked his Bell's Palsy in a 2012 episode of RAW; [[HypocriticalHumor this obviously goes against the company's anti-bullying campaign]] and many superstars were quick to point out on Twitter the hypocrisy.
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** Jim Ross's "Diesel" and "Razor Ramon" were replacement scrappies to the originals.



* VitriolicBestBuds: With JerryLawler
* TheWoobie: And how, he needs a big hug for a respected commentator like him.

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* TheWoobie: And how, he needs a big hug for a remaining such a respected commentator like him.
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** It's not uncommon to overdub Jim Ross' infamous reactions such as the one to Undertaker chucking Mankind off the cell to over-the-top violent moments in film and TV. [[For example http://youtu.be/N-CpdljCPvg]].

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** It's not uncommon to overdub Jim Ross' infamous reactions such as the one to Undertaker chucking Mankind off the cell to over-the-top violent moments in film and TV. [[For example http://youtu.be/N-CpdljCPvg]].[[http://youtu.be/N-CpdljCPvg For example]].
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** It's not uncommon to overdub Jim Ross' infamous reactions such as the one to Undertaker chucking Mankind off the cell to over-the-top violent moments in film and TV. [[For example http://youtu.be/N-CpdljCPvg]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In September 1996, Ross announced that Razor Ramon and Diesel were coming back. This was during the early red-hot stage of the [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder NWO]] angle in WCW, which had Wrestling/ScottHall (formerly Razor Ramon) and Wrestling/KevinNash (formerly Diesel), along with [[Wrestling/HulkHogan "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan]], as the leaders. On the September 23, 1996, ''Raw,'' Ross cut a [[http://www.cagematch.net/?id=93&nr=83 promo]] where he broke kayfabe by acknowledging Vince [=McMahon=] as the owner of the company and ripped WWE for sticking him in a toga upon his debut at ''[=WrestleMania=] IX'', making him wear a cowboy hat and [[BreadEggsMilkSquick firing him after he first contracted Bell's Palsy]]. He said that had "no loyalty to the World Wrestling Federation! I've only got loyalty to good ol' J.R." He said that he was going to "bring back one of your favorites. He's the Bad Guy, Razor Ramon …" Then, Canadian wrestler [[TheOtherDarrin Rick Bogner]], best known to that point for his work in Wrestling/{{FMW}} as Big Titan, walked out doing a '''BAD''' Razor impression, to huge boos. He would be followed by [[Wrestling/{{Kane}} Glen Jacobs as "Diesel."]] Even though this was supposed to have been a heel turn, the crowd was loudly behind JR...until the Fake Razor came out, thus undoing everything Ross had accomplished to that point.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In September 1996, Ross announced that Razor Ramon and Diesel were coming back. This was during the early red-hot stage of the [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder NWO]] angle in WCW, which had Wrestling/ScottHall (formerly Razor Ramon) and Wrestling/KevinNash (formerly Diesel), along with [[Wrestling/HulkHogan "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan]], as the leaders. On the September 23, 1996, ''Raw,'' Ross cut a [[http://www.cagematch.net/?id=93&nr=83 promo]] where he broke kayfabe by acknowledging Vince [=McMahon=] as the owner of the company and ripped WWE for sticking him in a toga upon his debut at ''[=WrestleMania=] IX'', making him wear a cowboy hat and [[BreadEggsMilkSquick firing him after he first contracted Bell's Palsy]]. He said that had "no loyalty to the World Wrestling Federation! I've only got loyalty to good ol' J.R." He said that he was going to "bring back one of your favorites. He's the Bad Guy, Razor Ramon …" Then, Canadian wrestler [[TheOtherDarrin Rick Bogner]], best known to that point for his work in Wrestling/{{FMW}} as Big Titan, walked out doing a '''BAD''' Razor impression, to huge boos. He would be followed by [[Wrestling/{{Kane}} Glen Jacobs as "Diesel."]] Even though this was supposed to have been a heel turn, the crowd was loudly behind JR...until the Fake Razor came out, thus undoing everything Ross had accomplished to that point.point.
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** Wrestling/JoeyStyles is the only exception as he could be argued to be just as good as Ross (or, depending on the fan, ''better'') - but he only lasted four months on the Raw announce team before JR was brought back.

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** Wrestling/JoeyStyles is the only exception as he could be argued to be just as good as Ross (or, depending on the fan, ''better'') (and he still got some backlash for not being JR, [[BrokenBase though some fans thought he might be better]]) - but he only lasted four months on the Raw announce team before JR was brought back.
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* AmericansHateTingle: One of the most beloved wrestling announcers of all time, he was absoluteky hated by football fans during his time commentating Vince's short-lived XFL

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** Ironically, WWE wanted Styles to abandon his ..style to be more like JR. When that didn't pan out, they brought JR back. Again.

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** Ironically, WWE wanted Styles to abandon his ..style to be more like JR. When that didn't pan out, they brought JR back. Again.Again.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In September 1996, Ross announced that Razor Ramon and Diesel were coming back. This was during the early red-hot stage of the [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder NWO]] angle in WCW, which had Wrestling/ScottHall (formerly Razor Ramon) and Wrestling/KevinNash (formerly Diesel), along with [[Wrestling/HulkHogan "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan]], as the leaders. On the September 23, 1996, ''Raw,'' Ross cut a [[http://www.cagematch.net/?id=93&nr=83 promo]] where he broke kayfabe by acknowledging Vince [=McMahon=] as the owner of the company and ripped WWE for sticking him in a toga upon his debut at ''[=WrestleMania=] IX'', making him wear a cowboy hat and [[BreadEggsMilkSquick firing him after he first contracted Bell's Palsy]]. He said that had "no loyalty to the World Wrestling Federation! I've only got loyalty to good ol' J.R." He said that he was going to "bring back one of your favorites. He's the Bad Guy, Razor Ramon …" Then, Canadian wrestler [[TheOtherDarrin Rick Bogner]], best known to that point for his work in Wrestling/{{FMW}} as Big Titan, walked out doing a '''BAD''' Razor impression, to huge boos. He would be followed by [[Wrestling/{{Kane}} Glen Jacobs as "Diesel."]] Even though this was supposed to have been a heel turn, the crowd was loudly behind JR...until the Fake Razor came out, thus undoing everything Ross had accomplished to that point.
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* {{Narm}}: A very serious, scary, possibly career ending injury has just happened. Everyone is in shocked silence. Except JR.
-->'''JR''': [Sees Mankind get thrown eight feet down through the announce table] BAH GAWD!
** TruthInTelevision right there; as stated above, JR tries to keep certain "big spots" and endings a secret so he can give more realistic play-by-play; while he might Flanderize himself a bit, it's usually at least partially his real reaction. When he doesn't have Vince or someone else feeding him lines in a headset... When he does, it often shows.

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* DudeNotFunny: When VinceRusso and Ed Ferrara arrived in {{WCW}}, one of their creations was [[Horrible/ProfessionalWrestling "Oklahoma"]], a paper-thin parody of Jim Ross, whose sole purpose was to mock JR - Russo and Ferrara considered JR's mannerisms, as well as his then-recent bout with Bell's Palsy, things that were okay to make fun of. For obvious reasons, ''everyone'' thought this was in bad taste, and "Oklahoma" was dropped in short order.

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* DudeNotFunny: When VinceRusso and Ed Ferrara arrived in {{WCW}}, Wrestling/{{WCW}}, one of their creations was [[Horrible/ProfessionalWrestling "Oklahoma"]], a paper-thin parody of Jim Ross, whose sole purpose was to mock JR - Russo and Ferrara considered JR's mannerisms, as well as his then-recent bout with Bell's Palsy, things that were okay to make fun of. For obvious reasons, ''everyone'' thought this was in bad taste, and "Oklahoma" was dropped in short order.



* HilariousInHindsight: When Oklahoma parodied J.R. in {{WCW}}, he started sporting a beard after a couple of weeks. Nowadays, J.R. himself sports a beard.

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* HilariousInHindsight: When Oklahoma parodied J.R. in {{WCW}}, [=WCW=], he started sporting a beard after a couple of weeks. Nowadays, J.R. himself sports a beard.



* PoorMansSubstitute: Inverted; as [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome kindly pointed out]], Michael Cole is the poor man's substitute for good ol' JR.



** JoeyStyles is the only exception as he could be argued to be just as good as Ross (or, depending on the fan, ''better'') - but he only lasted four months on the Raw announce team before JR was brought back.

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** JoeyStyles Wrestling/JoeyStyles is the only exception as he could be argued to be just as good as Ross (or, depending on the fan, ''better'') - but he only lasted four months on the Raw announce team before JR was brought back.
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* Hillarious in Hindsight: When Oklahoma parodied J.R. in {{WCW}}, he started sporting a beard after a couple of weeks. Nowadays, J.R. himself sports a beard.

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* HillariousinHindsight: When Oklahoma parodied J.R. in {{WCW}}, he started sporting a beard after a couple of weeks. Nowadays, J.R. himself sports a beard.

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* HillariousInHindsight: When Oklahoma parodied J.R. in {{WCW}}, he started sporting a beard after a couple of weeks. Nowadays, J.R. himself sports a beard.

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** It's to the point where he just doesn't care. During his brief comeback in 2011 on the RAW after the HHH walkout/firing, they didn't tell JR that John Laurinaitis would relieve him of his job in the ring. When new GM Johnny Ace told JR to meet him in the ring, he knew what was coming, and after being told that he was indeed being fired, JR quickly tipped his hat and hurried out the ring and to the back, making sure his umpteenth HumiliationConga was as quick as possible.

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** It's to the point where he just doesn't care. During his brief comeback in 2011 on the RAW after the HHH walkout/firing, walkout/duty-relieving, they didn't tell JR that John Laurinaitis would relieve him of his job announcing gig in the ring. When new GM Johnny Ace told JR to meet him in the ring, he knew what was coming, and after being told that he was indeed being fired, JR quickly tipped his hat and hurried out the ring and to the back, making sure his umpteenth HumiliationConga was as quick as possible.
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** Then Vince [=McMahon=] mocked his Bell's Palsy in a 2012 episode of RAW; [[HypotheticalHumor this obviously goes against the company's anti-bullying campaign]] and many superstars were quick to point out on Twitter the hypocrisy.

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* [[AndTheFandomRejoiced And the IWC Rejoiced]]: JimRoss finally returns to WWERaw on 11/15/10, calling a BryanDanielson match. Not only did he remind the rest of the world why he and JerryLawler were ''the'' commentary duo of the 90s to early 2000s, but he spent the first half of his night trashing MichaelCole's YesMan attitude towards the company and the second half completely disregarding his anti-Danielson rage-on.
** Done again at Wrestlemania XXVII during the MichaelCole vs. JerryLawler. By the end of the match, ''every'' commentator but Lawler and Ross was either just in a match with the King or got a Stunner from StoneColdSteveAustin. Guess who has to fill in for the rest of the night...
*** The biggest case of the IWC rejocing? JR PERMANENTLY returning to RAW starting from this week, thanks to TripleH!
*** Then TripleH was forced to step down resulting in his firing.
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* IronWoobie: For all of the misfortunes Ross has suffered throughout his career, both on- and off-camera, it's amazing how much he's persevered.

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