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* CompleteMonster: [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant K]] demonstrates why Kamisu 66's Ethics Committee is so desperate to prevent the creation of Akkis. Even before his PK powers came to fruition, K alarmed the village and his family with [[TheSociopath his sociopathic tendencies]]. According to Tomiko Asahina, his subconscious worldview was obsessed with destructive, murderous images and impulses. When the Ethics Committee fails to take action, however, he develops PK and uses these powers to brutally rip his teacher into a bloody stain on the classroom. K becomes euphoric in learning that his [[PowerLimiter Death Feedback]] does not work and he proceeds to butcher every person in his path with a horrifying smile. On the first day of his rampage '''alone''', he kills 1,000 people ([[WouldHurtAChild including everyone from his class]]). Then, after weeks of killing, he finally falls ill and visits the hospital Tomiko worked in. Tomiko and Doctor Tsuchida eventually succeed in poisoning and killing K… but not before [[YourHeadASplode the bastard blows Tsuchida's head off with his PK.]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant [[EnfantTerrible K]] demonstrates why Kamisu 66's Ethics Committee is so desperate to prevent the creation of Akkis. Even before his PK powers came to fruition, K alarmed the village and his family with his [[TheSociopath his sociopathic tendencies]]. According to Tomiko Asahina, his subconscious worldview was obsessed with destructive, murderous images and impulses. When the Ethics Committee fails to take action, however, he develops PK and uses these powers to brutally rip his teacher into a bloody stain on the classroom. K becomes euphoric in learning that his [[PowerLimiter Death Feedback]] does not work and he [[PersonOfMassDestruction proceeds to butcher every person in his path path]] with a [[SlasherSmile horrifying smile. smile]]. On the first day of his rampage '''alone''', alone, he kills 1,000 people people, ([[WouldHurtAChild including everyone from his class]]). Then, after weeks of killing, he finally falls ill and visits the hospital Tomiko worked in. Tomiko [[spoiler:Tomiko and Doctor Tsuchida eventually succeed in poisoning and killing K… K, but not before K [[YourHeadASplode the bastard blows Tsuchida's head off with his PK.]]]]]]
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: By the end of the series, its hard to sympathize with either the human or the queer rat societies, as both have committed some truly horrible things in the name of neccessity. This makes it ultimately hard to root for anyone, especially the human main characters, as at least the queer rats seem like the underdogs.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: By the end of the series, its hard to sympathize with either the human or the queer monster rat societies, as both have committed some truly horrible things in the name of neccessity. This makes it ultimately hard to root for anyone, especially the human main characters, as at least the queer monster rats seem like the underdogs.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic/: The use and abuse of Dvoøák's Symphony No. 9, which coincidentally (or not) is also titled "From The New World".

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* AwesomeArt: The anime adaptation so far is nothing short of ''gorgeous'' to look at. [[OffModel Episode 5 might be an exception...]]

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* AwesomeArt: SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The anime adaptation so far is nothing short of ''gorgeous'' to look at. [[OffModel Episode 5 might be an exception...]]



* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic/: The use and abuse of Dvoøák's Symphony No. 9, which coincidentally (or not) is also titled "From The New World".
** While the show doesn't have an official opening theme, episodes 1-7 opens with [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rNU-2e4v_k this track]]. And boy, is it simultaneously terrifying and glorious to listen to.



* BrokenBase: Satoru's relationship with Shun in Episode 8 is a rather unfortunate example of this. Many viewed their relationship as heartwarming and were driven to tears when [[spoiler:Shun ends the relationship just before he transforms into a Gouma.]] Some however were disgusted by this development, ''to the point of dropping the show altogether.''

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* BrokenBase: Satoru's relationship with Shun in Episode 8 is a rather unfortunate example of this. Many viewed their relationship as heartwarming and were driven to tears when [[spoiler:Shun ends the relationship just before he transforms into a Gouma.]] Gouma]]. Some however were disgusted by this development, ''to the point of dropping the show altogether.''



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The use and abuse of Dvoøák's Symphony No. 9, which coincidentally (or not) is also titled "From The New World".
** While the show doesn't have an official opening theme, episodes 1-7 opens with [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rNU-2e4v_k this track]]. And boy, is it simultaneously terrifying and glorious to listen to.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: A FourStarBadass [[spoiler:who eliminates the Ground Spiders and later saves Saki and her friends from being turned in to the Ethics Committee,]] Kiromaru has established himself as this to viewers.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: A FourStarBadass [[spoiler:who eliminates the Ground Spiders and later saves Saki and her friends from being turned in to the Ethics Committee,]] Committee]], Kiromaru has established himself as this to viewers.



** Maria and Mamoru were [[spoiler: murdered by Yakomaru nearly as soon as Maria gave birth to her child. Imagine the two being led into a false sense of security, before having their child ''and'' their lives brutally torn away from them the minute that little one finally enters the world. Then, if that [[FromBadToWorse wasn't already horrible enough]], what sort of child rearing did that kid have to endure that would turn him into an absolutely [[AxCrazy ax crazy]], homicidal [[{{Moe}} twelve year old]]?]]

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** Maria and Mamoru were [[spoiler: murdered by Yakomaru nearly as soon as Maria gave birth to her child. Imagine the two being led into a false sense of security, before having their child ''and'' their lives brutally torn away from them the minute that little one finally enters the world. Then, if that [[FromBadToWorse wasn't already horrible enough]], what sort of child rearing did that kid have to endure that would turn him into an absolutely [[AxCrazy ax crazy]], AxCrazy, homicidal [[{{Moe}} twelve year old]]?]]



*** Uhhh, [[CuteAndPsycho maybe when he's asleep.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Any moral props Yakomaru might have had left go out the window in Episode 21 when [[spoiler:the Akki's identity is revealed. Combined with Tomiko's findings of the remains, it becomes crystal clear that he murdered Maria and Mamoru '''nearly as soon as she gave birth to her child.''' One can only imagine how he gave the two a false sense of security, before stripping both their child ''and'' their lives away from them the minute that little one finally enters the world. If that [[FromBadToWorse wasn't already reprehensible enough]], he raises the kid and turns him into a horrifyingly sadistic madwoman. In addition to kidnapping the other babies in the nursery so he can do the same to them.]]

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*** Uhhh, [[CuteAndPsycho maybe when he's asleep.]]
asleep]].
* MoralEventHorizon: Any moral props Yakomaru might have had left go out the window in Episode 21 when [[spoiler:the Akki's identity is revealed. Combined with Tomiko's findings of the remains, it becomes crystal clear that he murdered Maria and Mamoru '''nearly as soon as she gave birth to her child.''' One can only imagine how he gave the two a false sense of security, before stripping both their child ''and'' their lives away from them the minute that little one finally enters the world. If that [[FromBadToWorse wasn't already reprehensible enough]], he raises the kid and turns him into a horrifyingly sadistic madwoman. In addition to kidnapping the other babies in the nursery so he can do the same to them.]]them]].



** The Queen of the Bakenezumi colony. Her appearance is one thing, [[IAmAHumanitarian but the way she treats her people...]]

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** The Queen of the Bakenezumi colony. Her appearance is one thing, [[IAmAHumanitarian [[ImAHumanitarian but the way she treats her people...]]



** In episode 22, while travelling through the underground of [[spoiler:what's left of Tokyo]], Saki and the rest of her current group are forced to walk though [[spoiler:an enormous pile of maggot-ridden faecal matter]]. Saki herself finds it completely disgusting!
* NightmareFuelStationAttendant: K. See the Episode 12 entry in the [[NightmareFuel/FromTheNewWorld Nightmare Fuel page?]] All but two of the sub-entries are about him.

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** In episode 22, while travelling through the underground of [[spoiler:what's left of Tokyo]], Saki and the rest of her current group are forced to walk though [[spoiler:an enormous pile of maggot-ridden faecal fecal matter]]. Saki herself finds it completely disgusting!
* NightmareFuelStationAttendant: K. See the Episode 12 entry in the [[NightmareFuel/FromTheNewWorld Nightmare Fuel page?]] page]]? All but two of the sub-entries are about him.



* RootingForTheEmpire: Some fans sympathize with [[spoiler:Yakomaru, since his race has been enslaved and treated like dirt by the humans.]]

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Some fans sympathize with [[spoiler:Yakomaru, since his race has been enslaved and treated like dirt by the humans.]]humans]].



* UncannyValley: Shisei Kaburagi. Courtesy of his [[EyesOfGold eyes]]. No wonder he keeps them hidden.
* WinBackTheCrowd: A meta-example for Satoru's seiyuu YuukiKaji. While Kaji's career was never in danger, he DID attract [[XpacHeat a lot of criticism]] from anime viewers for his performances as the leads in ''GuiltyCrown'' and ''LightNovel/AccelWorld''. Kaji's tour de force portrayal of Satoru, however, recified his career for the fans (or at least, is well on his way to being redeemed).

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* UncannyValley: Shisei Kaburagi. Courtesy of his [[EyesOfGold eyes]].SupernaturalGoldEyes. No wonder he keeps them hidden.
* WinBackTheCrowd: A meta-example for Satoru's seiyuu YuukiKaji. While Kaji's career was never in danger, he DID attract [[XpacHeat [[XPacHeat a lot of criticism]] from anime viewers for his performances as the leads in ''GuiltyCrown'' and ''LightNovel/AccelWorld''. Kaji's tour de force portrayal of Satoru, however, recified his career for the fans (or at least, is well on his way to being redeemed).
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** The show's decision to [[spoiler:keep Satoru's and Saki's sex scene off-screen]] is quickly becoming a point of contention for fans who read the novel first and those still butt-hurt by Episode 8. [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt Like TV Asahi]] [[FanDumb would really show it.]]

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** The show's decision to [[spoiler:keep Satoru's and Saki's sex scene off-screen]] is quickly becoming a point of contention for fans who read the novel first and those still butt-hurt by Episode 8. [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt Like TV Asahi]] [[FanDumb Asahi would really show it.]]



* SelectiveSquick: A lot of straight male viewers reacted badly to the yaoi/yuri elements that appeared in episode 8, many to the point of dropping the show entirely [[FanDumb despite the fact that those elements only form a small part of the story]].

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* SelectiveSquick: A lot of straight male viewers reacted badly to the yaoi/yuri elements that appeared in episode 8, many to the point of dropping the show entirely [[FanDumb despite the fact that those elements only form a small part of the story]].story.



* WinBackTheCrowd: A meta-example for Satoru's seiyuu YuukiKaji. While Kaji's career was never in danger, he DID attract [[HateDumb a lot]] [[XpacHeat of criticism]] from anime viewers for his performances as the leads in ''GuiltyCrown'' and ''LightNovel/AccelWorld''. Kaji's tour de force portrayal of Satoru, however, recified his career for the fans (or at least, is well on his way to being redeemed).

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* WinBackTheCrowd: A meta-example for Satoru's seiyuu YuukiKaji. While Kaji's career was never in danger, he DID attract [[HateDumb a lot]] [[XpacHeat a lot of criticism]] from anime viewers for his performances as the leads in ''GuiltyCrown'' and ''LightNovel/AccelWorld''. Kaji's tour de force portrayal of Satoru, however, recified his career for the fans (or at least, is well on his way to being redeemed).
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All humans are violent here. PK users just have more freedom to use it.


*** The worst part is, it didn't probably take much since the PK users are shown to be naturally violent. Those tendencies were just directed at humans.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: By the end of the series, its hard to sympathize with either the human or the queer rat societies, as both have committed some truly horrible things in the name of neccessity. This makes it ultimately hard to root for anyone, especially the human main characters, as at least the queer rats seem like the underdogs.
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** Part of it also likely stems from the double standard surrounding the popularity of Saki and Maria's romance as opposed to Satoru and Shun's romance. Satoru and Shun are only together for a single episode in the anime and aren't even a couple in the manga, while Maria and Saki kiss on screen several times and have implied sex.

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** Part of it also likely stems from the double standard surrounding the popularity of Saki and Maria's romance as opposed to Satoru and Shun's romance. Satoru and Shun are only together for a single episode in the anime (though to be fair the relationship gets brought up a few times after), and aren't even a couple in the manga, while Maria and Saki kiss on screen several times and have implied sex.



** The children and Rijin the monk all show a disturbing tendency to pick the violent solution whenever they come across a conflict, as long as they aren't fighting against actual humans. It pretty plainly shows that for all the conditioning they go through, the PK-users are still prone of highly destructive behaviour, only barely kept in check by the social and genetic conditioning.

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** The children (most specifically, Satoru) and Rijin the monk all show a disturbing tendency to pick the violent solution whenever they come across a conflict, as long as they aren't fighting against actual humans. It pretty plainly shows that for all the conditioning they go through, the PK-users are still prone of highly destructive behaviour, only barely kept in check by the social and genetic conditioning.
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*** The worst part is, it didn't probably take much since the PK users are shown to be naturally violent. Those tendencies were just directed at humans.
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* FreudWasRight: In the novels it is explained that Mamoru's mother died of typhoid fever when he was young, and according to Saki he instantly became attached to [[TeamMom Maria]] when they entered Sage Academy. Mamoru's mother had red hair, just like [[LikeParentLikeSpouse Maria]].
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Nightmare Fuel


* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/FromTheNewWorld Has its own page.]]
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* HeartwarmingMoments:
** [[spoiler: Maria decides to stay with Mamoru. Her reason? There's no one as kind to people as him. Awww...]]
** Also, Tomiko [[spoiler:sticking up for Saki in the interrogation.]] Doubles as a CrowningMomentOfAwesome.
** In Episode 10, [[spoiler:"Saki, I've always loved you..."]] Doubles as a major TearJerker.
** The end of the anime, when we see [[spoiler: older [[HappilyMarried Saki and Satoru]] being hopeful for the future as they are expecting their [[BabiesEverAfter first child]].]] After all that happened, it's really a sweet treat.
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Crowning Moment of Funny


* CrowningMomentOfFunny: How Satoru gets Ryou off his back in Episode 12 [[spoiler:so he, Saki, and Maria can search for Mamoru.]]
** When Satoru proposes that he leaves Kamisu 66 and invites Saki to come with him, she comes up with this brilliant reply. It leaves Satoru speechless.
--> '''Saki:''' The opposite will happen.
--> '''Satoru:''' The opposite?
--> '''Saki:''' I'll leave the village and you'll follow me.
--> '''Satoru:''' (''expresses shock and frowns'') Fine...
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** The second episode flashes back to 500 years after humans with PK thoroughly destroyed modern civilization. One early ruler of the post-apocalyptic Japan is Emperor Daikangitei, translated as The Emperor of Delight. The flashback wastes no time in illustrating him as a sick, sadistic madman who's DrunkWithPower. During his coronation, he declares that the first hundred citizens who stop clapping would be immolated. With an enthusiastic smile, he forces his citizens to clap for three days and three nights, burning anyone who stops to a crisp in the process. This paved the way for a tyrannical dynasty of PK-wielding rulers to be established, [[spoiler: scaring away the hunter-gathers from his kingdom and thereby setting the table for their eventual forced transformation to become the Bakenezumi…]]
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* CompleteMonster: '''[[NightmareFuelStationAttendant K]]'''. It's bad enough that he grew up as [[TheSociopath a sociopathic boy.]] And then he realizes that his PowerLimiter doesn't work and proceeds to brutally slaughter 1,000 people ([[WouldHurtAChild yes, that includes school children]]) on the first day of his rampage '''alone.''' The kicker? He gets euphoria from all the chaos he causes.
** Also, the Emperor in the flashback in Episode 2. After his coronation, he forces the crowd attending his coronation to keep clapping by psychokinetically immolating the first 100 people who stop clapping as "sacrifices" for the festivities, all of this done ''with a smile''. And he was one of the early ones -- they got [[AxCrazy worse and worse]] over time.

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* CompleteMonster: '''[[NightmareFuelStationAttendant K]]'''. It's bad enough that he grew up as [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant K]] demonstrates why Kamisu 66's Ethics Committee is so desperate to prevent the creation of Akkis. Even before his PK powers came to fruition, K alarmed the village and his family with [[TheSociopath a his sociopathic boy.]] And then tendencies]]. According to Tomiko Asahina, his subconscious worldview was obsessed with destructive, murderous images and impulses. When the Ethics Committee fails to take action, however, he realizes develops PK and uses these powers to brutally rip his teacher into a bloody stain on the classroom. K becomes euphoric in learning that his PowerLimiter doesn't [[PowerLimiter Death Feedback]] does not work and he proceeds to brutally slaughter butcher every person in his path with a horrifying smile. On the first day of his rampage '''alone''', he kills 1,000 people ([[WouldHurtAChild yes, that includes school children]]) on the first day of his rampage '''alone.''' The kicker? He gets euphoria including everyone from all his class]]). Then, after weeks of killing, he finally falls ill and visits the chaos he causes.
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hospital Tomiko worked in. Tomiko and Doctor Tsuchida eventually succeed in poisoning and killing K… but not before [[YourHeadASplode the bastard blows Tsuchida's head off with his PK.]]
** The second episode flashes back to 500 years after humans with PK thoroughly destroyed modern civilization. One early ruler of the post-apocalyptic Japan is
Emperor in the Daikangitei, translated as The Emperor of Delight. The flashback wastes no time in Episode 2. After illustrating him as a sick, sadistic madman who's DrunkWithPower. During his coronation, he forces the crowd attending his coronation to keep clapping by psychokinetically immolating declares that the first 100 people hundred citizens who stop clapping as "sacrifices" would be immolated. With an enthusiastic smile, he forces his citizens to clap for three days and three nights, burning anyone who stops to a crisp in the festivities, all of this done ''with a smile''. And he was one of process. This paved the early ones -- they got [[AxCrazy worse way for a tyrannical dynasty of PK-wielding rulers to be established, [[spoiler: scaring away the hunter-gathers from his kingdom and worse]] over time. thereby setting the table for their eventual forced transformation to become the Bakenezumi…]]
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** Also, the Emperor in the flashback in Episode 2. After his coronation, he forces the crowd attending his coronation to keep clapping by psychokinetically immolating the first 100 people who stop clapping as "sacrifices" for the festivities, all of this done ''with a smile''. And he was one of the early ones -- they got [[AxCrazy worse and worse]] over time.

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* CompleteMonster: Boy A. [[spoiler:Upon discovering his PK powers, he uses it to rape 19 women (and killed 17 of them afterwards).]]
** Also, the Emperor in the flashback in Episode 2. After his coronation, he forces the crowd attending his coronation to keep clapping by psychokinetically immolating the first 100 people who stop clapping as "sacrifices" for the festivities, all of this done ''with a smile''. And he was one of the early ones -- they got [[AxCrazy worse and worse]] over time.
** One word: '''[[NightmareFuelStationAttendant K]]'''. It's bad enough that he grew up as [[TheSociopath a sociopathic boy.]] And then he realizes that his PowerLimiter doesn't work and proceeds to brutally slaughter 1,000 people ([[WouldHurtAChild yes, that includes school children]]) on the first day of his rampage '''alone.''' The kicker? He gets euphoria from all the chaos he causes.

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* CompleteMonster: Boy A. [[spoiler:Upon discovering his PK powers, he uses it to rape 19 women (and killed 17 of them afterwards).]]
** Also, the Emperor in the flashback in Episode 2. After his coronation, he forces the crowd attending his coronation to keep clapping by psychokinetically immolating the first 100 people who stop clapping as "sacrifices" for the festivities, all of this done ''with a smile''. And he was one of the early ones -- they got [[AxCrazy worse and worse]] over time.
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'''[[NightmareFuelStationAttendant K]]'''. It's bad enough that he grew up as [[TheSociopath a sociopathic boy.]] And then he realizes that his PowerLimiter doesn't work and proceeds to brutally slaughter 1,000 people ([[WouldHurtAChild yes, that includes school children]]) on the first day of his rampage '''alone.''' The kicker? He gets euphoria from all the chaos he causes.

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* HeartwarmingMoments: [[spoiler: Maria decides to stay with Mamoru. Her reason? There's no one as kind to people as him. Awww...]]

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** The end of the anime, when we see [[spoiler: older [[HappilyMarried Saki and Satoru]] being hopeful for the future as they are expecting their [[BabiesEverAfter first child]].]] After all that happened, it's really a sweet treat.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Saki/Satoru has always been a popular pairing [[spoilers: and they actually become the OfficialCouple in the end.]]

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* FanPreferredCouple: Saki/Satoru has always been a popular pairing [[spoilers: [[spoiler: and they actually become the OfficialCouple in the end.]]
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** And as of now, it worked...though only for the manga.
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** Later, [[spoiler: Maria and Mamoru's son.]]

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** Later, [[spoiler: Maria and Mamoru's son.daughter (son in the novel).]]

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Satoru remains hung up on Shun.


* UncannyValley: Shisei Kaburagi. Courtesy of his [[EyesOfGold eyes]]. No wonder he keeps them hidden.
* UnfortunateImplications: Homosexual relationships are treated as childish, and no characters are shown to still interested in them after their adolescence...
** ...With notable exception to the anime and manga, which treats Saki/Maria much more seriously than the novel.

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* UncannyValley: Shisei Kaburagi. Courtesy of his [[EyesOfGold eyes]]. No wonder he keeps them hidden. \n* UnfortunateImplications: Homosexual relationships are treated as childish, and no characters are shown to still interested in them after their adolescence...\n** ...With notable exception to the anime and manga, which treats Saki/Maria much more seriously than the novel.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Homosexual relationships are treated as childish, and no characters are shown to still interested in them after their adolescence...
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** Part of it also likely stems from the double standard surrounding the popularity of Saki and Maria's romance as opposed to Satoru and Shun's romance. Satoru and Shun are only together for a single episode in the anime and aren't even a couple in the manga, while Maria and Saki kiss on screen several times and have implied sex.
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** Starting with episode 18, some fans have been complaining about the way the anime seems to be downplaying the Saki/Satoru relationship while placing more emphasis on Maria [[spoiler: even after she had already died]].

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** Starting with episode 18, some fans have been complaining about the way the anime seems to be downplaying the Saki/Satoru relationship while placing more emphasis on Maria [[spoiler: even after she had already died]].posthumously, via Saki's memories/imagination/visions of her]].
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** Starting with episode 18, some fans have been complaining about the way the anime seems to be downplaying the Saki/Satoru relationship while placing more emphasis on [[TheLostLenore Maria]].

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** Starting with episode 18, some fans have been complaining about the way the anime seems to be downplaying the Saki/Satoru relationship while placing more emphasis on [[TheLostLenore Maria]].Maria [[spoiler: even after she had already died]].

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** Later, [[spoiler: Maria and Mamoru's daughter.]]

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** Later, [[spoiler: Maria and Mamoru's daughter.son.]]
*** Uhhh, [[CuteAndPsycho maybe when he's asleep.
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** Starting with episode 18, some fans have been complaining about the way the anime seems to be downplaying the Saki/Satoru relationship while placing more emphasis on Maria.

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** Starting with episode 18, some fans have been complaining about the way the anime seems to be downplaying the Saki/Satoru relationship while placing more emphasis on Maria.[[TheLostLenore Maria]].
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* [[The Anglosphere Loves From The New World GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff]]: You know a show has fans overseas when they start a movement pressing a licensing company to translate and publish the original novels in the US, UK, and Canada.

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* [[The [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff The Anglosphere Loves From The New World GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff]]: World]]: You know a show has fans overseas when they start a movement pressing a licensing company to translate and publish the original novels in the US, UK, and Canada.

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