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** Essentials. Not in-and-of themselves, mind you, and not so much if you're in an all-Essentials group, but consider the following. Prior to the release of Essentials, basic attacks were just that, basic. They were usually the weakest hitting things for damage dealers, and didn't have all the cool effects other powers did. Thus, classes such as Bards, Warlords and the like which gave out basic attacks like candy would only marginally influence the tide of battle. Now enter the Essentials, which are based around improving or replacing basic attacks: [[{{BFS}} Slayers]] that wield 2-handed weapons that deal as much as 4 weapon damage on a single basic attack; [[DualWielding Scouts]] that get granted one melee attack and are suddenly making 3 or more of them; latter additions give us Vampires that effectively become unkillable as long as they keep hitting, and the Bladesinger that adds a burst of various magical damage each time he hits. Yikes.
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*** Related to TGWTG, PawDugan played Profion in ''SuburbanKnights''... and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iTZSS2gefk was]] [[http://twitter.com/#!/cosmicbushell/status/85800292934885376 dead-on]]!
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* WallBanger: Level Adjustment in 3.5, for being incredibly random and nearly crippling certain concepts. A specific example would be the Blue in the Expanded Psionics Handbook; anyone familiar with how this system works will facepalm upon seeing the race.
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* WallBanger: Level Adjustment in 3.5, for being incredibly random and nearly crippling certain concepts. A specific example would be the Blue in the Expanded Psionics Handbook; anyone familiar with how this system works will facepalm FacePalm upon seeing the race.
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* [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch Complaining About Games You Don't Play]]: Considering that this is a game with its rules spread across as many as six different editions, with extra supplements for almost anything, a monthly publication that provided extra rules and modules, and that this is a gaming hobby where most people internalise the identity of the game they love, it's very common to find people complaining about whole editions of the game they've never played, never read, or in some cases, never heard of outside of the complaints of others. In the information age, the most noticeable version of this is the reaction to 4th Edition's latest extra rules supplements, but it goes back further than that. Especially given how complex some rules supplements are, it's pretty much inevitable that people will disallow some based on no '''actual''' play experience. This can make it awfully awkward to deal with legitimate concerns about any particular part of the game, since there's a lot of backdraft over disliking things other people like.
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* WallBanger: Level Adjustment in 3.5, for being incredibly random and nearly crippling certain concepts. A specific example would be the Blue in the Expanded Psionics Handbook; anyone familiar with how this system works will facepalm upon seeing the race.
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*** Actually Tom Baker is. Poor [[DrWho [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor]].
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* SpiritualLicensee: {{Krull}} was ''going'' to be an official D&D movie, but lost the license partway through development.
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*** Actually Tom Baker is. Poor [[DrWho Doctor]].
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** And, more recently after WOTC released a new set of core books called "Essentials", there is a heavy flame war between people who like "pre-E" D&D and those who like "post-E". The former group tends to call this new set "4.5", the latter gets positively enraged at seeing this number.
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* UnpleasableFanbase: The current edition war over 3E and 4E is this in a goddamn nutshell, reaching levels of InternetBackdraft.
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* SoBadItsGood: A lot of the movie is hilarious in its {{Narm}}, hamminess and dated effects (and genuinely hilarious on rare occasions), unless you're a [[SeriousBusiness serious]] D&D fan, in which case the {{Narm}} is like being eaten feet-first by rats.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: In Japan, if you mention ''D&D'', most people will probably sooner think of the Capcom {{BeatEmUp}}s mentioned below than the original tabletop game.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Compare how many series' portray Bahamut and Tiamat as dragons. Now look up [[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bahamut their]] [[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Tiamat origins]].
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Meepo the Kobold in 3rd Edition. This little lizard-dude, originally just a kill-it-for-stuff encounter in the adventure ''The Sunless Citadel'', was so popular that he made an appearance as an NPC in at least one other adventure, featured in a web-exclusive article in which he became a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot half-dragon were-velociraptor]], and got whisked away to [[{{d20 Modern}} another dimension]] in which he obtained a magical pump-action shotgun. Truly, Meepo is the pinnacle of koboldian awesomesauce. He even makes a cameo in d20 modern.
* MagnificentBastard: Asmodeus, most notably. [=Grazz't=], Dagon and Pazuzu also count.
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* GameBreaker: Numerous in all editions, although 3rd edition is particularly famous for this, due to the sheer volume of various mechanical goodies, provided by its supplements, as well as the generally high power level of the characters. Notable in 4th edition for having at least two discovered ''before the game was released''. Errata has fixed most of 4e's breaking stuff, but not all. Some examples:
** Clerics, Druids, and prestige classes related to either had the best of being both [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards linear warriors AND quadratic wizards]]... and aside from a decidedly lower-tier class selection, they were the only healers you could pick. If the Druid or Cleric stuck to healing, it didn't affect party balance. It was when the power gamer got his or her hands on them that it became a problem...
*** If they stick to healing, it breaks the game in the opposite direction. Attack and Damage scale up far faster the Armor Class and Hit Points in D&D. Playing a Cleric that is TheLoad isn't much better than playing one that that is the GameBreaker.
** Certain builds were able to incur ''trillions'' of damage in one attack, at range. One low-level spell with a specific combination of metamagic feats would raze anything and everything in a 10-mile radius to the ground. And then there's Pun-Pun, a level ''one'' kobold with inifinite stats who can reach infinitely far, including across the planes, and can cast any and every spell an infinite number of times per day. Did I mention this kobold is more of a god (infinite divine ranks) than the actual gods?
* TierInducedScrappy: 3.5 Monks are noted for getting many abilites that are either done better with spells gotten much quicker (over 20 levels they get the abillity to reduce fall damage, that's a first level spell for a caster or 2000 gold for everyone else) and don't synergize at all (Monks have one ability that makes them move fast, and another that requires them to stand still) to the point that when asked to optimize a Monk, most suggestions are to play another class. Truenamers also get a [[{{Understatement}} lot]] of flack for getting ''[[GameBreakingBug weaker as they level up]]'' as they need to meet an (already hard check) with a requirement that goes up by 2 each level, but you only get + 1 to make the check a level (Soulknife and CW Samurai also fall into this for similar reasons, but Monk gets the worst because it is "core" and part of the base game and truenamer is just that... {{egregious}}).
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* GoodBadBugs: Most rules exploits have been hilariously exploited with purpose built characters. These range from the "unintended but not game altering" (Because alcohol is a poison in the game's terms, an ability with the effect of "save against poison for bonuses" gets activated by booze) to the countless much worse ones.
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* CharacterAlignment: The TropeNamer. Its variant is so ubiquitous that the system from the second and third editions of D&D is described in detail on the trope page. This is simplified in the 4th Edition from the nine-point axis to an alignment line of five alignments: Lawful Good, Good, Unaligned, Evil, and Chaotic Evil. "Neutral Good" and "Chaotic Good" have been compressed into simply "Good," and likewise "Lawful Evil" and "Neutral Evil" are now "Evil." Most ordinary people in a setting are presumed to be unaligned.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: In Japan, if you mention ''D&D'', most people will probably sooner think of the Capcom {{BeatEmUp}}s mentioned below than the original tabletop game.
* BrokenBase: The edition war between 3rd and 4th editions. While there were some changeover gripes between 2nd and 3rd, this edition war has reached InternetBackdraft levels, possibly simply due to the availability of the Internet and the increased popularity of the system. Also the setting issue, where assorted players have flame wars over pointless gripes such as whether Eberron's {{dungeon punk}} setting is bad or not.
* {{Discontinuity}}: ''Every'' edition has inspired Discontinuity. There is still a very vocal 2nd Edition fanbase that despises the changes wrought in the transition to 3rd, and not a few 1st Edition holdouts who consider 2nd to be a bastardization, and a handful of hardcore grognards who think 1st Edition should never have supplanted "classic" D&D (called it 0E [Zero-E]). [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Players naturally gravitate towards the things that make them more comfortable]]. Of course, it's not like the books stop working when a new edition comes out, and any really cemented group is going to have lots of house rules anyway, so it's natural that players will remain players, even when they stop buying the new material.
* InformedWrongness: The creation of undead is regularly noted as evil, but it never really detailed what is wrong with creating a non-sentient being through the direction of energy - it just states that anything using negative energy is automatically evil. It gets even worse when golems (which require the enslaving of a sapient being) ''never'' have their creation demonized.
* InternetBackdraft: Just try to say anything against or in favor of 4th Edition on a D&D forum, only do so if you have a death wish. Starting an argument against or for a particular setting is also ill-advised.
* ParanoiaFuel: So wait, most (if not all) of the stars are Eldritch Abominations that want to eat us? And some of them can create avatars of their powers called Star Spawn?
* {{Retcon}}: 4ed recently had a relatively minor one concerning the war between the Gods and Primordials.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It has happened for every edition change. Some might argue that 4E most of all, but veteran [=D&D=] players would point out that it only seems that way due to the much wider availability of the Internet. Interesting to note is that this is now happening WITHIN 4th Edition itself. Wizards has started to release errata/updates every few months, usually to stop overpowered exploits (although sometimes for other purposes too). Naturally, people have either declared it to be the best thing since sliced bread, or threatened to stop playing D&D.
* UnfortunateImplications: You have your elves. They're Usually ChaoticGood. Then you have your Drow. They're evil and black and the women are in charge. AlwaysChaoticEvil races in general fall straight into this, so let's just say that's just the start.
* UnpleasableFanbase: The current edition war over 3E and 4E is this in a goddamn nutshell, reaching levels of InternetBackdraft.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Compare how many series' portray Bahamut and Tiamat as dragons. Now look up [[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bahamut their]] [[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Tiamat origins]].
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Meepo the Kobold in 3rd Edition. This little lizard-dude, originally just a kill-it-for-stuff encounter in the adventure ''The Sunless Citadel'', was so popular that he made an appearance as an NPC in at least one other adventure, featured in a web-exclusive article in which he became a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot half-dragon were-velociraptor]], and got whisked away to [[{{d20 Modern}} another dimension]] in which he obtained a magical pump-action shotgun. Truly, Meepo is the pinnacle of koboldian awesomesauce. He even makes a cameo in d20 modern.
* MagnificentBastard: Asmodeus, most notably. [=Grazz't=], Dagon and Pazuzu also count.
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* GameBreaker: Numerous in all editions, although 3rd edition is particularly famous for this, due to the sheer volume of various mechanical goodies, provided by its supplements, as well as the generally high power level of the characters. Notable in 4th edition for having at least two discovered ''before the game was released''. Errata has fixed most of 4e's breaking stuff, but not all. Some examples:
** Clerics, Druids, and prestige classes related to either had the best of being both [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards linear warriors AND quadratic wizards]]... and aside from a decidedly lower-tier class selection, they were the only healers you could pick. If the Druid or Cleric stuck to healing, it didn't affect party balance. It was when the power gamer got his or her hands on them that it became a problem...
*** If they stick to healing, it breaks the game in the opposite direction. Attack and Damage scale up far faster the Armor Class and Hit Points in D&D. Playing a Cleric that is TheLoad isn't much better than playing one that that is the GameBreaker.
** Certain builds were able to incur ''trillions'' of damage in one attack, at range. One low-level spell with a specific combination of metamagic feats would raze anything and everything in a 10-mile radius to the ground. And then there's Pun-Pun, a level ''one'' kobold with inifinite stats who can reach infinitely far, including across the planes, and can cast any and every spell an infinite number of times per day. Did I mention this kobold is more of a god (infinite divine ranks) than the actual gods?
* TierInducedScrappy: 3.5 Monks are noted for getting many abilites that are either done better with spells gotten much quicker (over 20 levels they get the abillity to reduce fall damage, that's a first level spell for a caster or 2000 gold for everyone else) and don't synergize at all (Monks have one ability that makes them move fast, and another that requires them to stand still) to the point that when asked to optimize a Monk, most suggestions are to play another class. Truenamers also get a [[{{Understatement}} lot]] of flack for getting ''[[GameBreakingBug weaker as they level up]]'' as they need to meet an (already hard check) with a requirement that goes up by 2 each level, but you only get + 1 to make the check a level (Soulknife and CW Samurai also fall into this for similar reasons, but Monk gets the worst because it is "core" and part of the base game and truenamer is just that... {{egregious}}).
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* GoodBadBugs: Most rules exploits have been hilariously exploited with purpose built characters. These range from the "unintended but not game altering" (Because alcohol is a poison in the game's terms, an ability with the effect of "save against poison for bonuses" gets activated by booze) to the countless much worse ones.
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* CharacterAlignment: The TropeNamer. Its variant is so ubiquitous that the system from the second and third editions of D&D is described in detail on the trope page. This is simplified in the 4th Edition from the nine-point axis to an alignment line of five alignments: Lawful Good, Good, Unaligned, Evil, and Chaotic Evil. "Neutral Good" and "Chaotic Good" have been compressed into simply "Good," and likewise "Lawful Evil" and "Neutral Evil" are now "Evil." Most ordinary people in a setting are presumed to be unaligned.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: In Japan, if you mention ''D&D'', most people will probably sooner think of the Capcom {{BeatEmUp}}s mentioned below than the original tabletop game.
* BrokenBase: The edition war between 3rd and 4th editions. While there were some changeover gripes between 2nd and 3rd, this edition war has reached InternetBackdraft levels, possibly simply due to the availability of the Internet and the increased popularity of the system. Also the setting issue, where assorted players have flame wars over pointless gripes such as whether Eberron's {{dungeon punk}} setting is bad or not.
* {{Discontinuity}}: ''Every'' edition has inspired Discontinuity. There is still a very vocal 2nd Edition fanbase that despises the changes wrought in the transition to 3rd, and not a few 1st Edition holdouts who consider 2nd to be a bastardization, and a handful of hardcore grognards who think 1st Edition should never have supplanted "classic" D&D (called it 0E [Zero-E]). [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Players naturally gravitate towards the things that make them more comfortable]]. Of course, it's not like the books stop working when a new edition comes out, and any really cemented group is going to have lots of house rules anyway, so it's natural that players will remain players, even when they stop buying the new material.
* InformedWrongness: The creation of undead is regularly noted as evil, but it never really detailed what is wrong with creating a non-sentient being through the direction of energy - it just states that anything using negative energy is automatically evil. It gets even worse when golems (which require the enslaving of a sapient being) ''never'' have their creation demonized.
* InternetBackdraft: Just try to say anything against or in favor of 4th Edition on a D&D forum, only do so if you have a death wish. Starting an argument against or for a particular setting is also ill-advised.
* ParanoiaFuel: So wait, most (if not all) of the stars are Eldritch Abominations that want to eat us? And some of them can create avatars of their powers called Star Spawn?
* {{Retcon}}: 4ed recently had a relatively minor one concerning the war between the Gods and Primordials.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It has happened for every edition change. Some might argue that 4E most of all, but veteran [=D&D=] players would point out that it only seems that way due to the much wider availability of the Internet. Interesting to note is that this is now happening WITHIN 4th Edition itself. Wizards has started to release errata/updates every few months, usually to stop overpowered exploits (although sometimes for other purposes too). Naturally, people have either declared it to be the best thing since sliced bread, or threatened to stop playing D&D.
* UnfortunateImplications: You have your elves. They're Usually ChaoticGood. Then you have your Drow. They're evil and black and the women are in charge. AlwaysChaoticEvil races in general fall straight into this, so let's just say that's just the start.
* UnpleasableFanbase: The current edition war over 3E and 4E is this in a goddamn nutshell, reaching levels of InternetBackdraft.
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* RoleAssociation: Hi, [[RockyHorrorPictureShow Riff Raff]]! Nice to see you make a cameo in this film.
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* HamAndCheese: Irons just revels in ChewingTheScenery here, and is considered the only good part of the film for some.
** So much so that ThatGuyWithTheGlasses says this very phrase when describing Irons' performance.
** This film also contains Richard O'Brien. This is notable for one very significant reason: he is ''the most understated actor in the whole film''. Think about that for a minute.
** So much so that ThatGuyWithTheGlasses says this very phrase when describing Irons' performance.
** This film also contains Richard O'Brien. This is notable for one very significant reason: he is ''the most understated actor in the whole film''. Think about that for a minute.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Damodar, who proved popular enough to appear in the sequel. Possibly because he [[spoiler:kills [[EthnicScrappy Snails]]]].
* EthnicScrappy: Snails.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The impressions some fundamentalist Christians tend to have of ''D&D'' and [[{{Bibleman}} what Hank's voice actor went on to do]] a few years down the road.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: That you should give into peer pressure because the group knows best.
* FanPreferredCouple: A [[WildMassGuessing surprising]] number of fans have a rather [[DieForOurShip drastic view]] of Kosar for standing between Diana and her "[[SlapSlapKiss true love]]," Eric. That almost no evidence exists to support this ship does not deter them.
* FanPreferredCouple: A [[WildMassGuessing surprising]] number of fans have a rather [[DieForOurShip drastic view]] of Kosar for standing between Diana and her "[[SlapSlapKiss true love]]," Eric. That almost no evidence exists to support this ship does not deter them.
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