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* UnexpectedCharacter: There are only two concrete rules for the extra strips Patreon supporters vote on: a character can't have back to back strips, and it can't be used to reveal spoilers. Otherwise, ''any'' character can win to be the focus of the bonus strip. This has led to some unusual characters (and 'characters') winning, such as Blowjob Cat, Dina's raptor bed, Lester the CorruptCop, Rhetta the eye doctor, Pat [=McHoarney=], and Joyce's shower jugs.

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** Whenever Amazi-Girl showed up, the guesses would deliberately be everyone ''except'' Amber, due to the PaperThinDisguise. Finally became a DiscreditedMeme [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/alwaysopen/ in this strip]]'s AltText.
--->this is when you guys stop making the spider-car and ultra car jokes forever, by the way, hint hint


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* PlayAlongMeme: Whenever Amazi-Girl showed up, the guesses would deliberately be everyone ''except'' Amber, due to the PaperThinDisguise. Finally became a DiscreditedMeme [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/alwaysopen/ in this strip]]'s AltText.
--->this is when you guys stop making the spider-car and ultra car jokes forever, by the way, hint hint
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** Dina, to a lesser extent - while she has yet to go through the kind of trauma listed above, she is increasingly aware of her difficulties with social interaction. Her parents also tried to get her diagnosed for her autism in the past, but multiple psychologists just brushed her social issues off as English Second Language problems despite her not being ESL.

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** Dina, to a lesser extent - while she has yet to go through the kind of trauma listed above, she is increasingly aware of her difficulties with social interaction. Her parents also tried to get her diagnosed for her autism in the past, but multiple psychologists just brushed her social issues off as English Second Language problems despite her not being ESL.
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** Dina, to a lesser extent - while she has yet to go through the kind of trauma listed above, she is increasingly aware of her difficulties with social interaction.

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** Dina, to a lesser extent - while she has yet to go through the kind of trauma listed above, she is increasingly aware of her difficulties with social interaction. Her parents also tried to get her diagnosed for her autism in the past, but multiple psychologists just brushed her social issues off as English Second Language problems despite her not being ESL.
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Should probably just delete ross's section or relocate it instead of potholing; it's obvious which side the story is on.


** Ross [=MacIntyre=]: Loving dad afraid to lose his daughter (especially after his wife passed away) and willing to sacrifice his own life to "save" her, or misguided, violent and ignorant bigot who doesn't care about his daughter's feelings, so much that he went as far as [[spoiler:kidnapping her with a gun]], and whose behaviour was responsible for his wife's suicide to begin with?

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** Ross [=MacIntyre=]: [[MisaimedFandom Loving dad afraid to lose his daughter daughter]] (especially after his wife passed away) and willing to sacrifice his own life to "save" her, or misguided, violent and ignorant bigot who doesn't care about his daughter's feelings, so much that he went as far as [[spoiler:kidnapping her with a gun]], and whose behaviour was responsible for his wife's suicide to begin with?
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* RealismInducedHorror: Part of what makes Ryan such a well-received villain compared to [[BaseBreakingCharacter Blaine and Ross]] is that, unlike being kidnapped to either be forced into conversion therapy or used as a bargaining chip to force your kidnapper's child to drop out of college, getting drugged and raped at a party can happen to ''anybody''.

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[ArchnemesisDad Blaine O'Malley]], Amber's father, only [[ItsAllAboutMe values himself]]. After years of abusing his wife and daughter, Blaine tries to make the latter drop out of college, just so he doesn't have to pay for her tuition anymore. What follows is him harassing her, threatening her, and luring her boyfriend to get back at her for standing up for herself and punching him in the face. Ultimately, after getting beaten up by Amazi-Girl--who, unbeknownst to him, is Amber's alter ego--Blaine decides to disguise himself as a {{supervillain}} and to act like one, leading him to fatally injure Mike and to kidnap Amber and her friends, just to get a chance at revenge. When his plans go awry because Ross goes against his orders, Blaine murders the latter in a fit of rage, and decides that MurderIsTheBestSolution by attempting to kill every kid he kidnapped, to make sure that [[LeaveNoWitnesses no witnesses remain]]. Confronted by Amber as Amazi-Girl, Blaine relishes the thought that he turned her into a broken and violent person.]]
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** Roz: is she a cruel opportunist who intentionally sabotaged her Robin's congressional campaign as some of her dorm mates allege, or a CruelToBeKind HypocriticalHeartwarming little sister who decided a relationship with Leslie would benefit Robin as well as serve the greater good? It all hinges on whether you believe Roz took or posted the incriminating photographs.

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** Roz: is she a cruel opportunist who intentionally sabotaged her sister Robin's congressional campaign as some of her dorm mates allege, or a CruelToBeKind HypocriticalHeartwarming little sister who decided a relationship with Leslie would benefit Robin as well as serve the greater good? It all hinges on whether you believe Roz took or posted the incriminating photographs.

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** Following becoming an atheist, Joyce has, for understandable reasons related to her religious trauma, become a far more testy person when it comes to religion and in general, causing strain in her friendships as they show distaste for her more HollywoodAtheist behavior. This is especially true when it comes to Becky, who unlike Joyce has kept her faith despite their shared upbringing, and has been passive-aggressively attempting to get her to convert back to Christianity.



*** JerkassWoobie: basically became this. Yes, her being a HollywoodAtheist and insulting others religions is not something her friends likes but we can understand why she end up like this.
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*** JerkassWoobie: basically became this. Yes, her being a HollywoodAtheist and insulting others religions is not something her friends likes but we can understand why she end up like this.
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* GeniusBonus: The title of [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/sheetmusic/ this strip]] acknowedges that the punchline is only even ''visible'' if you read music (or check the comments section, where people who can have explained it).
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Billie's drinking is PlayedForLaughs as early as ''the third strip''. Later we see she's a full blown alcoholic who's really suffering because of it and she has a DUI in her past that almost killed someone.
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Billie's drinking is PlayedForLaughs as early as ''the third strip''. Later we see she's a full blown alcoholic who's really suffering because of it and she has a DUI in her past that almost killed someone.
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** Walky's casual joke about Sal being blacker than him becomes this when whenever Sal uses similar phrasing when lashing out at him for their parents' favouritism.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/03-when-it-crumbles/dingdongredux/ The strip]] in which Joyce recaps "the whiteboard ding-dong bandit" incident to Becky.

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[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/03-when-it-crumbles/dingdongredux/ The strip]] in which Joyce recaps "the whiteboard ding-dong bandit" incident to Becky.


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** Amber hallucinating [[spoiler:Mike after he sacrifices himself to save her life?]] Tragic and concerning. Amber not incorrectly [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-12/02-ill-leave-you-a-phantom/implication/ assuming]] Danny is into men and [[spoiler:declaring [=Mike/Danny=] could have been "canon" and imagining hallucinatory Mike making out with him with a wide grin on her face?]] Concerning and ''hilarious''.
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** Joyce, the world is tailor made to force her to deal with things she has no ability to deal with, starting with an attempted rape which leaves her with serious PTSD issues. Her worldview is constantly taking hits, she is seeing people being happy sinning while she is unhappy being "pure" which is causing her to feel hate towards her friends and to hate herself for feeling hate. She is in a relationship that even she is aware is both wrong and doomed to failure. Then to top it off her childhood friend confesses to her and Joyce ends up hurting her because she doesn't have the same feelings for her. Thankfully, her relationships with Ethan and Becky actually improve after some introspection and after she decided to be honest with them and herself.

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** Joyce, the world is tailor made to force her to deal with things she has no ability to deal with, starting with an attempted rape which leaves her with serious PTSD issues. Her worldview is constantly taking hits, she is seeing people being happy sinning while she is unhappy being "pure" which is causing her to feel hate towards her friends and to hate herself for feeling hate. She is in a relationship that even she is aware is both wrong and doomed to failure. Then to top it off her childhood friend confesses to her and Joyce ends up hurting her because she doesn't have the same feelings for her. Thankfully, her relationships with Ethan and Becky actually improve after some introspection and after she decided to be honest with them and herself. Unfortunately, then she has a gun pointed at her by Becky's father, whom she has known since childhood. And after he is arrested, her ''own mother'' bails him out so he can come after Becky again, and she doesn't see anything wrong with what she did. Post-timeskip, we also find out that Joyce's parents have divorced, and Joyce herself has not only become an agnostic or atheist, but is having difficulty admitting even to her friends that she has lost her faith.
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** When taking a poll on which character Willis should make an extra couple strips for Patreon about, Becky of all people won. Willis was completely baffled, especially since no one but him knew that Becky was going to make a reappearance just ''three weeks from the poll's end.'' Once she became a part of the story, her popularity ''skyrocketed''. Her popularity is also helped because she is also the girlfriend of dina, another EnsembleDarkHorse

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** When taking a poll on which character Willis should make an extra couple strips for Patreon about, Becky of all people won. Willis was completely baffled, especially since no one but him knew that Becky was going to make a reappearance just ''three weeks from the poll's end.'' Once she became a part of the story, her popularity ''skyrocketed''. Her popularity is also helped because she is also the girlfriend of dina, Dina, another EnsembleDarkHorseEnsembleDarkHorse.

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** Dina won the "favorite character" poll, despite having less than 40 strip appearances by the time the poll closed. For comparison, Walky had over 150, and Joyce over 250. The poll currently had her at 603 votes, 19% of the total amount. The second highest was Mike and he only has 482. That means nearly a fifth of the fan base loves her more than the main characters. She's featured in the banner ads for the comic, where she's hiding just out of frame (so just her CoolHat is visible), pops up to stare at the reader for a few seconds, goes "Rarr!" and pops back down.
*** She's since won for a second year running, this time with a whopping 43% of the vote.
*** Dina is now the star of her own storyline, aptly titled "Walking with Dina."
*** It's genetic: Dina's parents are also liked by the fans because they are GoodParents and they are okay with the fact their daughter has a girlfriend.

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** Even before becoming a major character, Dina won the "favorite character" poll, despite having less than 40 strip appearances by the time the poll closed. For comparison, Walky had over 150, and Joyce over 250. The poll currently had her at 603 votes, 19% of the total amount. The second highest was Mike and he only has 482. That means nearly a fifth of the fan base loves her more than the main characters. She's featured in the banner ads for the comic, where she's hiding just out of frame (so just her CoolHat is visible), pops up to stare at the reader for a few seconds, goes "Rarr!" and pops back down.
*** She's since won for a second year running, this time with a whopping 43% of the vote.
*** Dina is now the star of her own storyline, aptly titled "Walking with Dina."
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Dina's parents parents, despite appearing in ''six'' strips in eleven years, are also liked by beloved enough to win a few Patreon bonus strip polls (last one in April 2021, ''eight years'' after appearing on-panel in the fans because they are comic proper). Being GoodParents and they are okay with the fact their daughter has in a girlfriend.setting that severely lacks these helps.
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** Is Joyce an adorable Christian who needs to [[InnocentBigot break out of the effects of her sheltered life]] or an idiotic bible-thumping xenophobe?

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** Is Early on, Joyce was one, with one half of the fanbase seeing her as an adorable Christian who needs to [[InnocentBigot break out of the effects of her sheltered life]] or life]], and the other seeing her as an idiotic bible-thumping xenophobe?xenophobe. This died down with time as she decisively shifted towards the former.
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** Booster is either a good if socially inept person trying their best to help others, or a Mike-tier cold-reading insensitive jerk.
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** Because he's mainly used as a PlotDevice and is a FlatCharacter otherwise, people are hard pressed when it comes to analyzing Mike. His flashback chapters renewed interest in just what makes him tick, and have led to some wildly different interpretations. Some believe he's dead inside and acts like a dick legitimately to those that deserve it, and uses it as a front for making others aware of their flaws. Some think he's just TheSociopath and is playing everyone around him for [[ForTheEvulz his amusement]]. Others TakeAThirdOption and think that while he is TheSociopath, he has a soft spot for Amber and Ethan, but isn't afraid to call out them or anyone else that pisses him off. Just what makes Mike tick is effectively a riddle for the ages. For what it's worth, Book 10 has him [[spoiler:take a multiple-story dive to save Amber from her father ''and'' admit in what turned out to be his FamousLastWords that Amber and Ethan "were always good friends. My best friends".]]

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** Because he's mainly used as a PlotDevice and is a FlatCharacter otherwise, people are hard pressed when it comes to analyzing Mike. His flashback chapters renewed interest in just what makes him tick, and have led to some wildly different interpretations. Some believe he's dead inside and acts like a dick legitimately to those that deserve it, and uses it as a front for making others aware of their flaws. Some think he's just TheSociopath and is playing everyone around him for [[ForTheEvulz his amusement]]. Others TakeAThirdOption and think that while he is TheSociopath, he has a soft spot for Amber and Ethan, but isn't afraid to call out them or anyone else that pisses him off. Just what makes Mike tick is effectively a riddle for the ages. For what it's worth, Book 10 has him [[spoiler:take a multiple-story dive to save Amber from her father ''and'' admit in what turned out to be his FamousLastWords last words that Amber and Ethan "were always good friends. My best friends".]]

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* JerkassWoobie: While unquestionably an AbusiveParent, Ross [=MacIntyre=] managed to get some sympathy points; unlike other HateSink villains, his motivation is a horribly distorted desire to keep what's left of his family. [[spoiler:His death at Blaine's hands is genuinely tragic, if only because of its impact on Joyce and Becky.]]

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While unquestionably an AbusiveParent, Ross [=MacIntyre=] managed to get some sympathy points; unlike other HateSink villains, his motivation is a horribly distorted desire to keep what's left of his family. [[spoiler:His death at Blaine's hands is genuinely tragic, if only because of its impact on Joyce and Becky.]]]]
** Joe. On the Jerkass end, he's a womanizer with somewhat shaky ethics and zero patience for stuff that doesn't get him laid. On the Woobie end, his unwillingness to form meaningful attachments is all-but-explicitly stated to be a defense mechanism developed after seeing his parents' marriage dissolve because of his father's cheating and womanizing.
-->I am shallow. Everyone knows I'm shallow. [...] Do you realize how much worse it would be if anyone actually cared about me?
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* MemeticBadass: Dina's capacity of StealthHiBye is almost considered as a superpower like invisibility or just teleportation. She can even use it to fight people, like Ross and Blaine. and of course the fact she likes dinosaurs help a lot because there is a lot of jokes about her being as strong and scary as a T-rex
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* MemeticBadass: Dina's capacity of StealthHi/Bye is almost considered as a superpower like invisibility or just teleportation. She can even use it to fight people, like Ross and Blaine. and of course the fact she likes dinosaurs help a lot because there is a lot of jokes about her being as strong and scary as a T-rex

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* MemeticBadass: Dina's capacity of StealthHi/Bye StealthHiBye is almost considered as a superpower like invisibility or just teleportation. She can even use it to fight people, like Ross and Blaine. and of course the fact she likes dinosaurs help a lot because there is a lot of jokes about her being as strong and scary as a T-rex
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* MemeticBadass: Dina's capacity of StealthHi/Bye is almost considered as a superpower like invisibility or just teleportation. She can even use it to fight people, like Ross and Blaine. and of course the fact she likes dinosaurs help a lot because there is a lot of jokes about her being as strong and scary as a T-rex

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** When taking a poll on which character Willis should make an extra couple strip for Patreon about, Becky of all people won. Willis was completely baffled, especially since no one but him knew that Becky was going to make a reappearance just ''three weeks from the poll's end.'' Once she became a part of the story, her popularity ''skyrocketed''.
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** When taking a poll on which character Willis should make an extra couple strip strips for Patreon about, Becky of all people won. Willis was completely baffled, especially since no one but him knew that Becky was going to make a reappearance just ''three weeks from the poll's end.'' Once she became a part of the story, her popularity ''skyrocketed''.
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*** It's genetic: Dina's parents are also liked by the fans because they are GoodParents and they are okay with the fact their daughter has a girlfriend.


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*** Becky and Dina's relationship. Cute and fluffy, or an annoying couple thrown together with no build up that now dominates the comic?

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*** Becky and Dina's relationship. Cute and fluffy, or an annoying couple thrown together with no build up that now dominates the comic?comic? It's less base breaking because a lot of fans loves the fact this relationship doesn't have drama between the two girl.

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** Because he's mainly used as a PlotDevice and is a FlatCharacter otherwise, people are hard pressed when it comes to analyzing Mike. His flashback chapters renewed interest in just what makes him tick, and have led to some wildly different interpretations. Some believe he's dead inside and acts like a dick legitimately to those that deserve it, and uses it as a front for making others aware of their flaws. Some think he's just TheSociopath and is playing everyone around him for [[ForTheEvulz his amusement]]. Others TakeAThirdOption and think that while he is TheSociopath, he has a soft spot for Amber and Ethan, but isn't afraid to call out them or anyone else that pisses him off. Just what makes Mike tick is effectively a riddle for the ages.
*** [[spoilers: His HeelRealization, HeroicSacrifice immediatly afterwards,and his inadvertent LastWords ]] put to rest a lot of the arguments here, only to raise even more arguments.

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** Because he's mainly used as a PlotDevice and is a FlatCharacter otherwise, people are hard pressed when it comes to analyzing Mike. His flashback chapters renewed interest in just what makes him tick, and have led to some wildly different interpretations. Some believe he's dead inside and acts like a dick legitimately to those that deserve it, and uses it as a front for making others aware of their flaws. Some think he's just TheSociopath and is playing everyone around him for [[ForTheEvulz his amusement]]. Others TakeAThirdOption and think that while he is TheSociopath, he has a soft spot for Amber and Ethan, but isn't afraid to call out them or anyone else that pisses him off. Just what makes Mike tick is effectively a riddle for the ages.
*** [[spoilers: His HeelRealization, HeroicSacrifice immediatly afterwards,and
ages. For what it's worth, Book 10 has him [[spoiler:take a multiple-story dive to save Amber from her father ''and'' admit in what turned out to be his inadvertent LastWords ]] put to rest a lot of the arguments here, only to raise even more arguments.FamousLastWords that Amber and Ethan "were always good friends. My best friends".]]
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*** [[spoilers: His HeelRealization, HeroicSacrifice immediatly afterwards,and his inadvertent LastWords ]] put to rest a lot of the arguments here, only to raise even more arguments.
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* HesJustHiding: The reaction to [[spoiler:Mike Warner's]] death, considering that it happened during a time-skip, the audience was informed about it with a throwaway line, and the character had a HeelRealization moment right before [[spoiler:tackling Blaine off of the balcony. Claiming he's in witness protection is relatively common. This is in spite of the fact his profile was updated to mark him as deceased, and that Willis admitted via WordOfGod that his mentioned "rule break" he had done was ''killing a major character'', and that the {{timeskip}} was so they could skip the grieving period.]]

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* HesJustHiding: The reaction to [[spoiler:Mike Warner's]] death, considering that it happened during a time-skip, the audience was initially informed about it with a throwaway line, and the character had a HeelRealization moment right before [[spoiler:tackling Blaine off of the balcony. Claiming he's in witness protection is relatively common. This is in spite of the fact his profile was updated to mark him as deceased, and that Willis admitted via WordOfGod that his mentioned "rule break" he had done was ''killing a major character'', and that the {{timeskip}} was so they could skip the grieving period.]]
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* HesJustHiding: The reaction to [[spoiler:Mike Warner's]] death, considering that it happened during a time-skip, the audience was informed about it with a throwaway line, and the character had a HeelRealization moment right before [[spoiler:tackling Blaine off of the balcony. Claiming he's in witness protection is relatively common. This is spite of the fact his profile was updated to mark him as deceased, and that Willis admitted via WordOfGod that his mentioned "rule break" he had done was ''killing a major character'', and that the {{timeskip}} was so they could skip the grieving period.]]

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* HesJustHiding: The reaction to [[spoiler:Mike Warner's]] death, considering that it happened during a time-skip, the audience was informed about it with a throwaway line, and the character had a HeelRealization moment right before [[spoiler:tackling Blaine off of the balcony. Claiming he's in witness protection is relatively common. This is in spite of the fact his profile was updated to mark him as deceased, and that Willis admitted via WordOfGod that his mentioned "rule break" he had done was ''killing a major character'', and that the {{timeskip}} was so they could skip the grieving period.]]

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