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Misuse. This trope is about a work's premise being so alienating to audiences that it suffered in terms of reception. This series may have been a hard sell in the west, but it definitely wasn't in Japan, since it's remained a pretty influential work to this day.


* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The manga also, but ''especially'' the anime for children, simply could not have been released to their originally intended age groups in America due to extreme ValuesDissonance. Any other problems aside, violent {{Gorn}} promoting a Satanic-looking demon as heroic would never even be considered for adaptation by any network executive. Which would be why the anime was translated only in 2014 (and then still in an obscure sub-only version for older audiences), and the manga not until 2018.
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* BrokenBase: The '70s TV anime. It's a nostalgic favorite for many in Japan and Italy as well, but Westeners familiar only with the manga and later anime adaptations seeing the 1972 series for the first time often consider it laughable and ridiculous, since it's rather blatantly a kids' show (by Japanese standards). This is especially the case in the U.S., where the original anime wasn't released officially until 2014.
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** On Tumblr, some fans would make jokes about people such as Creator/DanteAlighieri being fans of Devilman, and such works as Literature/ParadiseLost, Literature/TheDivineComedy and even Literature/TheBible itself being ''Devilman'' FanFiction.
** Japan's local meme flavor is [[https://bit.ly/33EWpfZ Wakaruman,]] where 70's Devilman is used to express understanding or confusion in a manner similar to [[https://bit.ly/2VNJ2Yi Wakari Tetsuya.]]

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** * On Tumblr, some fans would make jokes about people such as Creator/DanteAlighieri being fans of Devilman, and such works as Literature/ParadiseLost, Literature/TheDivineComedy and even Literature/TheBible itself being ''Devilman'' FanFiction.
** * Japan's local meme flavor is [[https://bit.ly/33EWpfZ Wakaruman,]] where 70's Devilman is used to express understanding or confusion in a manner similar to [[https://bit.ly/2VNJ2Yi Wakari Tetsuya.]]
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* The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubSdfYqCgK8 Devilman OVA Dub]] [[SoBadItsGood in its entirety.]]
** "And then... he died." "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
** "Is it okay for me to run my shoes in here?" "I don't give a shit."



** "WHY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD"
*** Hell, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubSdfYqCgK8 the entirety of the English dub of the OVA]] could count.

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** "WHY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD"
*** Hell, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubSdfYqCgK8 the entirety of the English dub of the OVA]] could count.
"WHY, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!?"
** "I'm no longer Amon, he's eating shit in hell right now!"
** "I'll soap you tits for ya. Whaaheyyyy!"
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* FridgeHorror: In ''Devilman Grimoire'', actually. Remember how, in the original ''Devilman'', [[spoiler: Miki and Tare were horribly murdered by a psychotic lynch mob consisting of their own neighbors, because they thought she was a witch?]] When one considers that the cast is pretty much the same in ''Grimoire'' (with a few additions), it stands to reason that the Makimuras' neighbors most likely are also the same people. Which then leads to the realization that the whole neighborhood is a ticking time bomb, ready to go off under the right conditions. It doesn't help that Miki goes around announcing to anyone who's willing to listen that she is a witch. Then again, as of the latest chapters in ''Grimoire'', [[spoiler: Miki herself is now a Devilman, so killing her just became that much more difficult.]]

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* FridgeHorror: In ''Devilman Grimoire'', actually. Remember how, in the original ''Devilman'', [[spoiler: Miki and Tare were horribly murdered by a psychotic lynch mob consisting of their own neighbors, because they thought she was a witch?]] When one considers that the cast is pretty much the same in ''Grimoire'' (with a few additions), it stands to reason that the Makimuras' neighbors most likely are also the same people. Which then leads to the realization that the whole neighborhood is a ticking time bomb, ready to go off under the right conditions. It doesn't help that Miki goes around announcing to anyone who's willing to listen that she is a witch. Then again, as of the latest chapters in ''Grimoire'', [[spoiler: Miki herself is now a Devilman, so killing her just became that much more difficult.]] [[spoiler: And [[AvertedTrope completely annihilated]] with Miki being SparedByTheAdaptation and the overall SurprisinglyHappyEnding.]]
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The story heavily criticizes militarism, and how we dedicate more time and energy to building weapons to destroy each other than building bridges to understand one another. Tribalism is bad, because no matter how justified you think your motives are people unrelated to your feud will be victimized. A perpetual atmosphere of hatred and fear can only result in tragedy.
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* CommonKnowledge: [[spoiler: Satan Possessed Ryo Asuka’s corpse after he was killed in a car accident. In actuality Satan only assumed Ryo's identity and the two look nothing alike, a major factor in Ryo discovering their true identity.]] This misconception was likely born from the fact in the 1972 anime Devilman possessed Akira's body after killing the latter.

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* CommonKnowledge: [[spoiler: Satan Possessed possessed Ryo Asuka’s corpse after he was killed in a car accident. In actuality actuality, Satan only assumed Ryo's identity and the two look nothing alike, a major factor in Ryo discovering their true identity.]] This misconception was likely born from the fact in the 1972 anime Devilman possessed Akira's body after killing the latter.
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*** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kCWT57h4J0 remixed version]] for the 2018 Crybaby adaptation is pretty fun to hear too, with a catchy beat.

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*** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kCWT57h4J0 com/watch?v=UJrEZTjHoIk remixed version]] for the 2018 Crybaby adaptation is pretty fun to hear too, with a catchy beat.
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* NeverLiveItDown: The Live-action movie - much like how ''Film/DragonballEvolution'' will do to anime fans in North America five years later and ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' did with DC Comics fans seven years before, the 2004 movie made people of Japan lost their faith in the possibility of a good live-action movie based on mangas.

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* NeverLiveItDown: The Live-action movie 2004 live action adaptation - much like how ''Film/DragonballEvolution'' will do to anime fans in North America five years later and ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' did with DC Comics fans seven years before, the 2004 before. The movie made the people of Japan lost lose their faith in the possibility of a good live-action movie based on mangas.manga.
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** One of the prime reasons why [[BreakoutVillain Sirene]] became one of the franchise's most popular characters.

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** One of the prime reasons why [[BreakoutVillain Sirene]] became one of the franchise's most such a popular characters.character.
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** [[spoiler: Ryo was already [[Bishonen pretty easy on the eyes,]] but a gained a upgrade in sexiness once his [[AngelicBeauty true form]] of Satan was revealed.]]

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** [[spoiler: Ryo was already [[Bishonen pretty easy on the eyes,]] eyes, but a He gained a an upgrade in sexiness once his [[AngelicBeauty true form]] form of Satan was revealed.]]
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* EvilIsSexy:
** One of the prime reasons why [[BreakoutVillain Sirene]] became one of the franchise's most popular characters.
** [[spoiler: Ryo was already [[Bishonen pretty easy on the eyes,]] but a gained a upgrade in sexiness once his [[AngelicBeauty true form]] of Satan was revealed.]]
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* Some fans nickname ''Devilman Saga'' as [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond ''Devilman Beyond'']] because of its futuristic setting.

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* ** Some fans nickname ''Devilman Saga'' as [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond ''Devilman Beyond'']] because of its futuristic setting.
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* Some fans nickname ''Devilman Saga'' as [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond ''Devilman Beyond'']] because of its futuristic setting.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The manga also, but ''especially'' the anime for children, simply could not have been released to its originally intended age groups in America due to extreme ValuesDissonance. Any other problems aside, violent {{Gorn}} promoting a Satanic-looking demon as heroic would never even be considered for adaptation by any network executive. Which would be why the anime was translated only in 2014 (and then still in an obscure sub-only version for older audiences), and the manga not until 2018.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The manga also, but ''especially'' the anime for children, simply could not have been released to its their originally intended age groups in America due to extreme ValuesDissonance. Any other problems aside, violent {{Gorn}} promoting a Satanic-looking demon as heroic would never even be considered for adaptation by any network executive. Which would be why the anime was translated only in 2014 (and then still in an obscure sub-only version for older audiences), and the manga not until 2018.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The manga also, but ''especially'' the anime for children, simply could not have been released to its originally intended age groups in America due to extreme ValuesDissonance. Any other problems aside, violent {{Gorn}} promoting a Satanic-looking demon as heroic would never even be considered for adaptation by any network executive. Which would be why the anime was translated only in 2014 (and then still in an obscure sub-only version for older audiences), and the manga not until 2018.
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** While the later ''Literature/LeftBehind'' series of apocalyptic fiction has a ''very'' different view of politics, theology, morality and just about everything than ''Devilman'', it also presents some amusing parallels to it. In particular, the visual descriptions given for ''Left Behind'''s human Antichrist Nicolae Carpathia (tall, trim, well-dressed, classically beautiful young man with light blond hair and piercing blue eyes) and FallenAngel BigBad Lucifer (golden-haired UncannyValley-ish inhumanly beautiful angel of light) sound a lot like they're describing Ryo Asuka and Satan in ''Devilman''. For Lucifer/Satan, part of this might be because both series are using [[{{Satan}} a common source]], but there's nothing in the Bible that describes his human form so specifically.
** The original ''Devilman'' sees God destroying the entire Russian military with fires from heaven just when they are about to launch a nuclear WorldWarIII. Just about the same thing happens in ''Left Behind'' as well (although the Russians' primary target there is Israel rather than America). That is, in both stories, a literal and extremely obvious miracle of DivineIntervention happens to ward off the nuclear holocaust ... and is then [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight more or less ignored by everyone]] while demonic powers take over the world. However, ''Left Behind'' goes on to lampshade [[FlatEarthAtheist how weird that is]] a little bit.
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* ApocalypseWow: In the live action film, the end of the world is visually stunning.



* HomoeroticSubtext: Between Akira and Ryo. Made more complicated by the fact [[spoiler:Ryo is in reality the [[OtherworldlyAndSexuallyAmbiguous hermaphrodite Satan]]. On the other hand, Satan '''is''' outright stated to be in love with Akira, and the world ending and being recreated over and over again, is a way by God to punish him, by Satan watching Akira's suffering repeat itself.]]
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** The [=OVAs=] play this up. For example, Akira is so happy at the sight of Ryo that Miki literally begins to be jealous of Akira and even asks "is he more important for you because he is more handsome?". Moreover, Ryo soon tries to drive her away with a knife, saying "there is no need for women".
** Also the multiple and overly long [[HeldGaze stares]] between Akira and Ryo fuel this to the roof (the English dub unintentionally take this UpToEleven with this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM3lVxvf-sk scene]]).
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** On Tumblr, some fans would make jokes about people such as Creator/DanteAlighieri being {{Big Name Fan}}s of Devilman, and such works as Literature/ParadiseLost, Literature/TheDivineComedy and even Literature/TheBible itself being ''Devilman'' FanFiction.

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** On Tumblr, some fans would make jokes about people such as Creator/DanteAlighieri being {{Big Name Fan}}s fans of Devilman, and such works as Literature/ParadiseLost, Literature/TheDivineComedy and even Literature/TheBible itself being ''Devilman'' FanFiction.

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** Devilman No Uta, the Japanese opening of the original anime series.

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** Devilman [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5n2bkCZvvY "Devilman No Uta, Uta"]], the Japanese opening of the original anime series.series.
*** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kCWT57h4J0 remixed version]] for the 2018 Crybaby adaptation is pretty fun to hear too, with a catchy beat.
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** Of all the voice actors who have voiced Ryo Asuka, Creator/ToruFurusawa (who voices Ryo in the PlayStation 1 game) and Creator/YumiKakazu (who voices Ryo in the PC Mahjong game) can be considered the weakest choices for Ryo. Toru Furusawa gives Ryo a voice that sounds way too deep and masculine to even remotely suit him, and Yumi Kakazu gives Ryo a voice that makes him sound like a girl or a 13 year old boy.

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** Of all the voice actors who have voiced Ryo Asuka, Creator/ToruFurusawa (who voices Ryo in the PlayStation UsefulNotes/PlayStation 1 game) and Creator/YumiKakazu (who voices Ryo in the PC Mahjong game) can be considered the weakest choices for Ryo. Toru Furusawa gives Ryo a voice that sounds way too deep and masculine to even remotely suit him, and Yumi Kakazu gives Ryo a voice that makes him sound like a girl or a 13 year old boy.
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** While the Toei anime is for kids, it can still be pretty violent by modern day standards, and while there's not as much nudity, its still there to some degree that some people probably feel is too much for kids to see.

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** While the The Toei anime is for also aimed at kids, though it's generally LighterAndSofter than the manga. However, it can still be pretty violent by modern day standards, and while there's not as much nudity, its it's still there to some a degree that some people probably feel is too much for kids to see.
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* AnimationAgeGhetto: Unsurprising, knowing most video stores. The OVA is well known for its incredible brutality and the dub is full of swearing. The 1972 anime on the other hand ''was'' aimed to kids, having lots of changes in comparison with the original manga.

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* AnimationAgeGhetto: Unsurprising, knowing most video stores. The OVA is well known for its incredible brutality and the dub is full of swearing. The 1972 anime anime, on the other hand hand, ''was'' aimed to at kids, having lots of several changes to its story and generally being LighterAndSofter in comparison with the original manga.
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* CreepyAwesome: Jinmen is one of the scariest yet popular characters in manga.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: In the original Toei anime series, Devilman wears spedos with a belt to make him look more like a superhero. Unfortunately that look hasn't aged particularly well by today's standards and looks quite silly, especially when compared to Devilman's more inconic look where his lower torso is completely covered in fur.

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In the original Toei anime series, Devilman wears spedos with a belt to make him look more like a superhero. Unfortunately that look hasn't aged particularly well by today's standards and looks quite silly, especially when compared to Devilman's more inconic look where his lower torso is completely covered in fur.fur.
** In ''Crybaby'', Ryo's choice of clothing is just bizarre, if not borderline silly, where he now wears a furry long-coat, a buttoned-shirt that goes all the way down to his knees, and drop-crotch trousers. That's the kind of clothing one would expect an eccentric hip-hop artist to wear.

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* WTHCastingAgency: The 2004 live action movie was criticized for casting teen idols with no acting skills as the main characters. Some also scratched their heads at Akira and Ryo being played by twins, which causes a whole slew of problems. The first one is that Akira and Ryo weren't blood-related in the manga. The second problem is that Ryo is Caucasian on his mother's side, so he's only half the same ethnicity as Akira. The third problem is Ryo's [[spoiler: crush on Akira]], which [[{{Twincest}} goes without saying]].

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** Of all the voice actors who have voiced Ryo Asuka, Creator/ToruFurusawa (who voices Ryo in the PlayStation 1 game) and Creator/YumiKakazu (who voices Ryo in the PC Mahjong game) can be considered the weakest choices for Ryo. Toru Furusawa gives Ryo a voice that sounds way too deep and masculine to even remotely suit him, and Yumi Kakazu gives Ryo a voice that makes him sound like a girl or a 13 year old boy.
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The 2004 live action movie was criticized for casting teen idols with no acting skills as the main characters. Some also scratched their heads at Akira and Ryo being played by twins, which causes a whole slew of problems. The first one is that Akira and Ryo weren't blood-related in the manga. The second problem is that Ryo is Caucasian on his mother's side, so he's only half the same ethnicity as Akira. The third problem is Ryo's [[spoiler: crush on Akira]], which [[{{Twincest}} goes without saying]].
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* WTHCastingAgency: The 2004 live action movie was criticized for casting teen idols with no acting skills as the main characters. Some also scratched their heads at Akira and Ryo being played by twins, despite them not being blood related in the manga (and in Ryo's case, the fact that he's biracial).

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* WTHCastingAgency: The 2004 live action movie was criticized for casting teen idols with no acting skills as the main characters. Some also scratched their heads at Akira and Ryo being played by twins, despite them not being blood related which causes a whole slew of problems. The first one is that Akira and Ryo weren't blood-related in the manga (and in manga. The second problem is that Ryo is Caucasian on his mother's side, so he's only half the same ethnicity as Akira. The third problem is Ryo's case, the fact that he's biracial).[[spoiler: crush on Akira]], which [[{{Twincest}} goes without saying]].
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* WTHCastingAgency: The 2004 live action movie was criticized for casting teen idols with no acting skills as the main characters.

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* WTHCastingAgency: The 2004 live action movie was criticized for casting teen idols with no acting skills as the main characters. Some also scratched their heads at Akira and Ryo being played by twins, despite them not being blood related in the manga (and in Ryo's case, the fact that he's biracial).
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* WTHCastingAgency: The 2004 live action movie was criticized for casting teen idols with no acting skills as the main characters.

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