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* MisaimedFandom: The quote at the top is thrown around quite a bit on the videos and amongst fans, as well as a lot of Zeal worship in the game itself. Very "ZEAL SHALL RISE AGAIN". It's as if they don't realize there were [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans many reasons]] [[AndManGrewProud for the]] [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen kingdom's fall]].

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* MisaimedFandom: The quote at the top is thrown around quite a bit on the videos and amongst fans, as well as a lot of Zeal worship in the game itself. Very "ZEAL SHALL RISE AGAIN". It's as if they don't realize there were [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans many reasons]] [[AndManGrewProud reasons for the]] [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen the kingdom's fall]].
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moving this to Crimson Echoes


* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Most of the "new music" -- tracks not on the original ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' soundtrack (some custom, some remixes, some taken from other games) -- are significantly epic. Special note goes for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-eORdcpkYw "Requiem" by Mythos]], which plays in the Darkness Beyond Time, and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tcJYAYPrA "Battle with the Devil"]] from the ''Tsugunai: Atonement'' soundtrack for the FinalBoss.
** The Singing Mountain.
** The song that plays when Marle arrives in 1 A.D. [[https://static.chronocompendium.com/Black/CE/CE-ShelteringLight.mp3 Sheltering Light]]

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Most of the "new music" -- tracks not on the original ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' soundtrack (some custom, some remixes, some taken from other games) -- are significantly epic. Special note goes for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxRqSqJOlw "Requiem" by Mythos]], which plays in the Darkness Beyond Time, and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tcJYAYPrA "Battle with the Devil"]] from the ''Tsugunai: Atonement'' soundtrack for the FinalBoss.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Most of the "new music" -- tracks not on the original ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' soundtrack (some custom, some remixes, some taken from other games) -- are significantly epic. Special note goes for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxRqSqJOlw com/watch?v=S-eORdcpkYw "Requiem" by Mythos]], which plays in the Darkness Beyond Time, and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tcJYAYPrA "Battle with the Devil"]] from the ''Tsugunai: Atonement'' soundtrack for the FinalBoss.


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** The song that plays when Marle arrives in 1 A.D. [[https://static.chronocompendium.com/Black/CE/CE-ShelteringLight.mp3 Sheltering Light]]
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** The video of one of the Developer's Rooms, where the various developers talk about their excitement for the game, how much they were looking forward to it coming out, how all the hard work was worth it, and '''thanking''' Square-Enix for making two great games for them to work from... Ouch.

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** The video of one of the Developer's Rooms, where the various developers talk about their excitement for the game, how much they were looking forward to it coming out, how all the hard work was worth it, and '''thanking''' Square-Enix for making two great games for them to work from... [[ScrewedByTheLawyers Ouch.]]

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Most of the "new music" -- tracks not on the original ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' soundtrack (some custom, some remixes, some taken from other games) -- are significantly epic. Special note goes for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxRqSqJOlw "Requiem" by Mythos]], which plays in the Darkness Beyond Time, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tcJYAYPrA "Battle with the Devil"]] from the ''Tsugunai: Atonement'' soundtrack for the FinalBoss.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Most of the "new music" -- tracks not on the original ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' soundtrack (some custom, some remixes, some taken from other games) -- are significantly epic. Special note goes for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxRqSqJOlw "Requiem" by Mythos]], which plays in the Darkness Beyond Time, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tcJYAYPrA "Battle with the Devil"]] from the ''Tsugunai: Atonement'' soundtrack for the FinalBoss.



* ScrappyLevel: The [[spoiler: Marle solo parts]]. Both of them.
** [[spoiler: The frigging mainland rebellion. Every ''five seconds,'' another battle against the same formation of two Protos and a Krawlie...]]
** More than these fights, it's the conveyor belt puzzle in the same section that's really annoying. Also, the frog hunting minigame in prehistory: due to bad coding (both the unpolished state of the beta and over-ambition from the developers, probably), makes the capture of a few frogs an exercise in frustration. Luckily you need just five to succeed.



* TearJerker: [[spoiler:The Fall of Guardia and Schala's fate]]. And, finding [[spoiler:Marle]]'s corpse.

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* TearJerker: [[spoiler:The Fall of Guardia and Schala's fate]]. fate.]] And, finding [[spoiler:Marle]]'s corpse.



** The Eidolon. Dear ''God,'' the Eidolon.

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** The Eidolon. Dear ''God,'' the Eidolon.Eidolon.
* ThatOneLevel: The [[spoiler: Marle solo parts]]. Both of them.
** [[spoiler: The frigging mainland rebellion. Every ''five seconds,'' another battle against the same formation of two Protos and a Krawlie...]]
** More than these fights, it's the conveyor belt puzzle in the same section that's really annoying. Also, the frog hunting minigame in prehistory: due to bad coding (both the unpolished state of the beta and over-ambition from the developers, probably), makes the capture of a few frogs an exercise in frustration. Luckily you need just five to succeed.

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** Just because Queen Zeal has been corrupted by Lavos by the time Crono and company arrive doesn't mean every ruler in the entire history of the kingdom was like that. It even seems like the kingdom ''was'' an actual {{Utopia}} before Lavos/Zeal messed everything up.
*** ..Except for the whole exiling-all-non-magic-users-to-the-frozen-wasteland-beneath-the-clouds thing. I'm pretty sure Zeal was meant to be seen as an exercise in hubris from the very beginning. The queen's attempts to control Lavos were just the final nail in the coffin.



** [[spoiler: The frigging mainland rebellion. Every ''five seconds,'' another battle against the same formation of two Protos and a Krawlie...]] [[YourHeadAsplode I still have a pressure in my eyeballs whenever I think about it...]]

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** [[spoiler: The frigging mainland rebellion. Every ''five seconds,'' another battle against the same formation of two Protos and a Krawlie...]] [[YourHeadAsplode I still have a pressure in my eyeballs whenever I think about it...]]
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Cut for having no context; if anyone wants to re-add, discuss it here first.


* CompleteMonster: Played straight by Dalton and [[spoiler:the real timeline's Cedric Guardia, the founder of, well, Guardia]].

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If he\'s not an example, he\'s not an example. As for the CMOA, see discussion.


* CompleteMonster: Averted by King Zeal, whose ambitions actually make a lot of sense. Played straight by Dalton and [[spoiler:the real timeline's Cedric Guardia, the founder of, well, Guardia]].
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: It's not known who put up the 95% beta, but if the C&D is for real, they just sent a massive "fuck you and your [[ScrewedByTheLawyers lawyers]]" to Square-Enix.

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* CompleteMonster: Averted by King Zeal, whose ambitions actually make a lot of sense. Played straight by Dalton and [[spoiler:the real timeline's Cedric Guardia, the founder of, well, Guardia]].
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: It's not known who put up the 95% beta, but if the C&D is for real, they just sent a massive "fuck you and your [[ScrewedByTheLawyers lawyers]]" to Square-Enix.
Guardia]].
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Designated Monkey is now YMMV. Trope needs more context before it becomes visible, however.

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%%* DesignatedMonkey: Marle. [This is a Zero Context Example, and needs to be expanded. Be judicious; a few lines will do.]
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: It's not known who put up the 95% beta, but if the C&D is for real, they just sent a massive "fuck you and your lawyers" to Square-Enix.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: It's not known who put up the 95% beta, but if the C&D is for real, they just sent a massive "fuck you and your lawyers" [[ScrewedByTheLawyers lawyers]]" to Square-Enix.
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namespace stuff


* EnsembleDarkhorse: A case could be made for Agent 12 who, despite having a fairly minor role that could have been covered by Belthasar himself, has garnered a pretty decent fan following if the comments on the YouTube videos are any indication.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkHorse: A case could be made for Agent 12 who, despite having a fairly minor role that could have been covered by Belthasar himself, has garnered a pretty decent fan following if the comments on the YouTube Website/YouTube videos are any indication. indication.



* TearJerker: [[spoiler:The Fall of Guardia and Schala's fate]]. And, finding [[spoiler:Marle's]] corpse.

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* TearJerker: [[spoiler:The Fall of Guardia and Schala's fate]]. And, finding [[spoiler:Marle's]] [[spoiler:Marle]]'s corpse.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Most of the "new music" -- tracks not on the original ''ChronoTrigger'' soundtrack (some custom, some remixes, some taken from other games) -- are significantly epic. Special note goes for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxRqSqJOlw "Requiem" by Mythos]], which plays in the Darkness Beyond Time, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tcJYAYPrA "Battle with the Devil"]] from the ''Tsugunai: Atonement'' soundtrack for the FinalBoss.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Most of the "new music" -- tracks not on the original ''ChronoTrigger'' ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' soundtrack (some custom, some remixes, some taken from other games) -- are significantly epic. Special note goes for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxRqSqJOlw "Requiem" by Mythos]], which plays in the Darkness Beyond Time, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tcJYAYPrA "Battle with the Devil"]] from the ''Tsugunai: Atonement'' soundtrack for the FinalBoss.



* SurpriseDifficulty: Those who played ChronoTrigger will quickly learn that the game is ''much'' harder than its predecessor.

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* SurpriseDifficulty: Those who played ChronoTrigger VideoGame/ChronoTrigger will quickly learn that the game is ''much'' harder than its predecessor.
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** The Eidolon. Dear ''God,'' the Eidolon.
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: King Zeal and Marle.

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** The Eidolon. Dear ''God,'' the Eidolon.
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: King Zeal and Marle.
Eidolon.
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*** ..Except for the whole exiling-all-non-magic-users-to-the-frozen-wasteland-beneath-the-clouds thing. I'm pretty sure Zeal was meant to be seen as an exercise in hubris from the very beginning. The queen's attempts to control Lavos were just the final nail in the coffin.
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this page is ymmv


** [[YourMileageMayVary They didn't bug this troper.]] What did bug him, though? [[spoiler: The frigging mainland rebellion. Every ''five seconds,'' another battle against the same formation of two Protos and a Krawlie...]] [[YourHeadAsplode I still have a pressure in my eyeballs whenever I think about it...]]

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** [[YourMileageMayVary They didn't bug this troper.]] What did bug him, though? [[spoiler: The frigging mainland rebellion. Every ''five seconds,'' another battle against the same formation of two Protos and a Krawlie...]] [[YourHeadAsplode I still have a pressure in my eyeballs whenever I think about it...]]

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