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Evil Is Sexy TRS; this has become an objective, in-universe trope.


* EvilIsSexy: Hydra Cap is revealed to be a fascist, anti-freedom double agent but he still has the chiseled facial features and Adonis-like figure of the original Steve Rogers.
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Superior Iron Man has its own page


* SpiritualSuccessor: Being a Hero whose been affected by a process to turn him into a villain makes this run quite similar to the ''Superior'' line of stories after ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan and later [[ComicBook/IronMan Superior Iron Man]], which was a lot less successful than the first and pretty much ended the titular line.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: Being a Hero whose been affected by a process to turn him into a villain makes this run quite similar to the ''Superior'' line of stories after ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan and later [[ComicBook/IronMan Superior Iron Man]], ComicBook/SuperiorIronMan, which was a lot less successful than the first and pretty much ended the titular line.
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Dork Age was renamed


* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself, at least in some circles. When he first revealed himself, backlash was massive. Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, Website/ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over some fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping some of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped somewhat.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself, at least in some circles. When he first revealed himself, backlash was massive. Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, Website/ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge.AudienceAlienatingEra. However, he's won over some fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping some of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped somewhat.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: To some extent, the ''Civil War II'' tie-ins help to avail the vilification Carol Danvers gets in the crossover, by having [[spoiler:HYDRA!Cap]] be secretly manipulating things to encourage hostility between the two sides and deliberately engineers situations that would result in catastrophes Ulysses can predict, thus causing even more chaos.
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** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''ComicBook/BatmanAndCaptainAmerica'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi as part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon. Coincidentally, it was later revealed that the Red Skull that responsible for the CosmicRetcon that made the HYDRA version of Steve]]

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** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''ComicBook/BatmanAndCaptainAmerica'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi as part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon. Coincidentally, it was later revealed that it was the Red Skull that who was responsible for the CosmicRetcon that made the HYDRA version of Steve]]
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Wiki/ namespace cleaning.


* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself, at least in some circles. When he first revealed himself, backlash was massive. Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, Wiki/ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over some fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping some of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped somewhat.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself, at least in some circles. When he first revealed himself, backlash was massive. Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, Wiki/ThisVeryWiki Website/ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over some fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping some of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped somewhat.
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Not YMMV and refers to another part of the page for context (so even if it was moved to Trivia, it would be a ZCE).


* IKnewIt: The below mentioned reveal of a cosmic retcon was predicted by a lot of people. Some, who were okay with it regardless, still don't mind while others who disliked the decision find it reprehensible no matter what explanation.
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* BrokenBase: Captain America [[spoiler: as an agent of HYDRA became this after it was revealed ''why'' he was now with HYDRA. Some are now willing to give it a chance while others are angry it's even happening at all or annoyed that Marvel more or less copped out on the promise Steve was NotBrainwashed.]]

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* BrokenBase: Captain America [[spoiler: as an agent of HYDRA became this after it was revealed ''why'' he was now with HYDRA. Some are now willing to give it a chance while others are angry it's even happening at all or all, and/or annoyed that Marvel more or less copped out on the promise Steve was NotBrainwashed.]]
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* EvilIsSexy: Hydra Cap is revealed to be a fascist, anti-freedom double agent but he still has the chiseled facial features and Adonis-like figure of the original Steve Rogers.
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** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''ComicBook/BatmanAndCaptainAmerica'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi as part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon.]]

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** Another one is pointing to the image in EvenEvilHasStandards from [[spoiler: the ''ComicBook/BatmanAndCaptainAmerica'' {{Elseworlds}} crossover, where ComicBook/TheJoker terminates an alliance with the ComicBook/RedSkull upon realizing that the Skull wasn't faking being a Nazi as part of a gimmick and saying that Steve now has less morals than the man who crippled Barbara Gordon, and killed Jason Todd and Sarah Essen Gordon.]] Coincidentally, it was later revealed that the Red Skull that responsible for the CosmicRetcon that made the HYDRA version of Steve]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Love 'em or hate 'em, you have to give props to [[spoiler:Steve Rogers for being the one who killed [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Bruce Banner]] through a simple letter that set off Ulysses' precog powers.]] Besides that, their ability to maintain their cover is so far near-flawless; [[spoiler:unlike the similar ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'', Steve is actually ''good'' at hiding his villainy, with his personality being unchanged outside of his circle, rather than becoming a SmugSnake {{Jerkass}}, so to the public and other superheroes he appears to be [[VillainWithGoodPublicity the same-old Steve even when he's stabbing them in the back]].]]
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** And then ''[[Film/AvengersEndgame Avengers: Endgame]]'' delivered a TakeThat by having the MCU version of Cap use it to trick a bunch of Hydra agents earning a laugh from the audience in the process.

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** And then ''[[Film/AvengersEndgame Avengers: Endgame]]'' delivered a TakeThat by having the MCU version of Cap use it to trick a bunch of Hydra agents agents, earning a an appreciative laugh from the audience audiences in the process.
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** And then [[Film/AvengersEndgame Avengers: Endgame]] took the line... and made it into one of the most funnily-awesome gags ''ever''.

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** And then [[Film/AvengersEndgame ''[[Film/AvengersEndgame Avengers: Endgame]] took Endgame]]'' delivered a TakeThat by having the line... and made MCU version of Cap use it into one to trick a bunch of Hydra agents earning a laugh from the most funnily-awesome gags ''ever''.audience in the process.
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including Franchise/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, Franchise/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther declaring he actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness declaring]] [[YouAreWhatYouHate he hates mutants]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] [[ProtagonistTitleFallacy declaring he is Zelda]], [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick declaring "This is Krusty Krab"]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].

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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including Franchise/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, Franchise/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther declaring he actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness declaring]] [[YouAreWhatYouHate he hates mutants]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] [[ProtagonistTitleFallacy declaring he is Zelda]], [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick declaring "This is Krusty Krab"]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including Franchise/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, Franchise/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther declaring he actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness declaring]] [[YouAreWhatYouHate he hates mutants]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] [[ProtagonistTitleFallacy declaring he is Zelda]], [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick declaring "This is Krusty Krab"]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].

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** [[https://pics.onsizzle.com/if-all-comicbook-heroes-hand-atwistuke-the-new-captain-america-2586921.png It has been mocked by many fans]], editing the panel to have other heroes (and characters from other mediums as well) do something completely opposite of what they stand for, including Franchise/{{Superman}} telling someone to save themselves, Franchise/{{Batman}} [[MoralEventHorizon shot]] [[SelfMadeOrphan his parents]], ComicBook/SpiderMan shirking responsibility, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} forgoing chimichangas, [[ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} Dare]][[DisabilitySuperpower devil]] [[ObfuscatingDisability can actually see the whole time]], [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Black Panther declaring he actually cares]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader declaring]] [[IAmNotYourFather he's not Luke's father]], ComicBook/{{Bane}} [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises getting caught not being part of the plan]], ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} [[ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen was wrong]], ComicBook/RedSkull declaring [[{{Eagleland}} "God bless America!"]], ComicBook/{{Magneto}} [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness declaring]] [[YouAreWhatYouHate he hates mutants]], [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Admiral Ackbar declaring it's not a trap]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei]] declaring that he is not a Gundam, [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa declaring she won't let it go]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] [[ProtagonistTitleFallacy declaring he is Zelda]], [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick declaring "This is Krusty Krab"]], and Wrestling/JohnCena declaring that you can see him. There's also a related one, with Cap's text box edited to say all kinds of [[http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/05/captain-america-hydra-meme pure nonsense]].
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Internet Backdraft is now Flame Bait and being dewicked per TRS.


* InternetBackdraft: '''Oh boy.''' Issue #1 of ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'' pissed just about every Marvel fan off with TheReveal of [[spoiler:Captain America's allegiance to HYDRA]], with some going as far as claiming that it's insulting to the memory of Joel Simon and Jack Kirby and that it completely ruins the character. Shortly after the issue was released, [=#SteveRogers=], [=#SaveCaptainAmerica=] and [=#SayNoTo=][[spoiler:[=HYDRACap=]]] started trending on major social media outlets. The reveal in the very next issue that clarifies [[spoiler:this is the result of a CosmicRetcon thanks to Red Skull manipulating Kobik, resulting in the fans relenting somewhat, but still being mad that Spencer lied so to get the book controversy and attention.]]
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** And then [[Film/AvengersEndgame Avengers: Endgame]] took the line... and made it into one of the most funnily-awesome gags ''ever''.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself, at least in some circles. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, Wiki/ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over some fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping some of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped somewhat.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Hydra Cap himself, at least in some circles. When he first revealed himself, [[UnderStatement backlash was massive.]] massive. Death threats were thrown at Marvel over it, memes bashing it went viral, Wiki/ThisVeryWiki had editors make (or at least try to) edits throwing snark at it, branding the entire thing a massive DorkAge. However, he's won over some fans not only for being a [[MagnificentBastard cunning,]] [[EvilIsCool badass villain]] but also still keeping some of the morals that made him Steve Rogers. Of course, TheReveal that Steve ''wasn't'' EvilAllAlong helped somewhat.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Several in issue #2:
** BlackComedy, but, Red Skull executing his entire kitchen staff and then justifying it as fair for the blandness of the soup, complete with noting he'd warned them celery was a poor base for this kind of soup. Which means the freaking ''Red Skull'' is an amateur food critic.
-->'''Red Skull:''' "Bah. You try this soup and tell me it's not bland. I warned them, celery is a poor base!"
** The Red Skull, of all people, hanging a LampshadeHanging on just how cliche and overdone the classic Hydra stories are, even describing Sin's plans as revolving around things they've all seen before.
** The Red Skull reading Hydra-glorifying bedtime stories to Kubik. Nuff said.

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