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* CriticProof: Despite all the negativity surrounding it as well as the lessened expectations for this entry, ''Ghosts'' still managed to pull off [[http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/06/entertainment-us-activision-callofduty-idUSBRE9A50XY20131106 1 billion dollars]] in retail sales '''[[{{HSQ}} on its first day.]]'''
** As IGN UK pointed out though, this just means how many copies retailers asked for- we don't know if the game has beat GTA V's record of 1 Billion in three days, which raises suspicion of why Activision would release ''that'' information.

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* CriticProof: Despite all the negativity surrounding it as well as the lessened expectations for this entry, ''Ghosts'' still managed to pull off [[http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/06/entertainment-us-activision-callofduty-idUSBRE9A50XY20131106 1 billion dollars]] in retail sales '''[[{{HSQ}} on its first day.]]'''
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]]''' As IGN UK and other sources have pointed out though, this just means how many copies the retailers themselves asked for- for - we don't know if the game has beat actually beaten GTA V's record of 1 Billion in three days, which raises suspicion of why Activision would release ''that'' information.information, especially given the "annoyed" comment below under InternetBackdraft.



* PortingDisaster: Possibly one of the worst optimized games to come out on the PC this year, Ghosts has a seemingly limitless amount of frame rate issues, including in menus, a narrow field of view with no way to adjust it (with a fanmade utility having a CEASE AND DESIST ORDER placed against it), and uses far more CPU power then it has any right to. It's almost borderline TheyJustDidntCare. This made even more insulting when you remember that Call of Duty's roots are on the PC.

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* PortingDisaster: Possibly one of the worst optimized games to come out on the PC this year, Ghosts has a seemingly limitless amount of frame rate issues, including in menus, a narrow field of view with no way to adjust it (with a fanmade utility having a CEASE AND DESIST ORDER placed against it), and uses far more CPU power then it has any right to. It's almost borderline TheyJustDidntCare. This is made even more insulting when you remember that Call of Duty's roots are on the PC.



* ToughActToFollow: Activision themselves have admitted that they're not expecting ''Ghosts'' to beat ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2'''s sale records. Alongside that, Black Ops 2 had one of the best campaigns in the COD franchise, which worries people waiting for Ghosts.

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* ToughActToFollow: Activision themselves have admitted that they're not expecting ''Ghosts'' to beat ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2'''s sale records. Alongside that, Black Ops 2 ''[=BO2=]'' had one of the best campaigns in the COD franchise, which worries worried people waiting for Ghosts.''Ghosts''.
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** As IGN UK pointed out though, this just means how many copies retailers asked for- we don't know if the game has beat GTA V's record of 1 Billion in three days, which raises suspicion of why Activision would release ''that'' information.
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* CriticProof: Despite all the negativity surrounding it as well as the lessened expectations for this entry, ''Ghosts'' still managed to pull off [[http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/06/entertainment-us-activision-callofduty-idUSBRE9A50XY20131106 1 billion dollars]] in retail sales '''[[HSQ on its first day.]]'''

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* CriticProof: Despite all the negativity surrounding it as well as the lessened expectations for this entry, ''Ghosts'' still managed to pull off [[http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/06/entertainment-us-activision-callofduty-idUSBRE9A50XY20131106 1 billion dollars]] in retail sales '''[[HSQ '''[[{{HSQ}} on its first day.]]'''
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* CriticProof: Despite all the negativity surrounding it as well as the lessened expectations for this entry, ''Ghosts'' still managed to pull off [[http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/06/entertainment-us-activision-callofduty-idUSBRE9A50XY20131106 1 billion dollars]] in retail sales '''[[HSQ on its first day.]]'''
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* BaseBreaker: The overall increased size of the multiplayer maps compared to the previous Infinity Ward developed games in the series. Either this is a welcome change from Modern Warfare 3's lazer-tag-esque corridors, or they went too far in opening up the maps, removing the fast pace Call of Duty is known for.
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The artistic license tropes aren\'t YMMV.


* ArtisticLicenseGeography: San Diego's geography and topography are hilariously wrong.
** Toward the end of the prologue, there's an amazing SceneryGorn shot of San Diego being destroyed by ODIN's projectiles while Elias, Logan, and Hesh are driving away in the truck. However, they're looking down on Downtown from a road on a hillside-- a vantage point that doesn't actually exist in that part of San Diego (at least, not with an unobstructed view of the waterfront).
** The downtown district looks nothing like its real-world counterpart, either, up to and including the ersatz "Greenway Park", home of the "San Diego Tsunamis". The stadium also looks more like Wrigley Field than the ultra-modern Petco Park.
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* PortingDisaster: Possibly one of the worst optimized games to come out on the PC this year, Ghosts has a seemingly limitless amount of frame rate issues, including in menus, a narrow field of view with no way to adjust it (with a fanmade utility having a CEASE AND DESIST ORDER placed against it), and uses far more CPU power then it has any right to. It's almost borderline TheyJustDidntCare

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* PortingDisaster: Possibly one of the worst optimized games to come out on the PC this year, Ghosts has a seemingly limitless amount of frame rate issues, including in menus, a narrow field of view with no way to adjust it (with a fanmade utility having a CEASE AND DESIST ORDER placed against it), and uses far more CPU power then it has any right to. It's almost borderline TheyJustDidntCareTheyJustDidntCare. This made even more insulting when you remember that Call of Duty's roots are on the PC.
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* PortingDisaster: Possibly one of the worst optimized games to come out on the PC this year, Ghosts has a seemingly limitless amount of frame rate issues, including in menus, a narrow field of view with no way to adjust it (with a fanmade utility having a CEASE AND DESIST ORDER placed against it), and uses far more CPU power then it has any right to. It's almost borderline TheyJustDidntCare
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* And sure enough, since the game refused to adapt any of the changes '''Black Ops 2'' introduced, the game received lower scores.

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* ** And sure enough, since the game refused to adapt any of the changes '''Black ''Black Ops 2'' introduced, the game received lower scores.
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** The downtown district looks nothing like its real-world counterpart, either, up to and including the ersatz "Greenway Park", home of the "San Diego Tsunamis". Doesn't even count as an example of WritingAroundTrademarks, as the stadium looks more like Wrigley Field than the ultra-modern Petco Park.

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** The downtown district looks nothing like its real-world counterpart, either, up to and including the ersatz "Greenway Park", home of the "San Diego Tsunamis". Doesn't even count as an example of WritingAroundTrademarks, as the The stadium also looks more like Wrigley Field than the ultra-modern Petco Park.

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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Toward the end of the prologue, there's an amazing SceneryGorn shot of San Diego being destroyed by ODIN's projectiles while Elias, Logan, and Hesh are driving away in the truck. However, they're looking down on Downtown from a road on a hillside-- a vantage point that doesn't actually exist in that part of San Diego (at least, not with an unobstructed view of the waterfront).

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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: San Diego's geography and topography are hilariously wrong.
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Toward the end of the prologue, there's an amazing SceneryGorn shot of San Diego being destroyed by ODIN's projectiles while Elias, Logan, and Hesh are driving away in the truck. However, they're looking down on Downtown from a road on a hillside-- a vantage point that doesn't actually exist in that part of San Diego (at least, not with an unobstructed view of the waterfront).waterfront).
** The downtown district looks nothing like its real-world counterpart, either, up to and including the ersatz "Greenway Park", home of the "San Diego Tsunamis". Doesn't even count as an example of WritingAroundTrademarks, as the stadium looks more like Wrigley Field than the ultra-modern Petco Park.
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** However, the Trope itself is subverted- the fans are honestly as bummed as the critics, many citing that they were hoping of adaptations of ideas from ''Black Ops 2''.



* ToughActToFollow: Activision themselves have admitted that they're not expecting ''Ghosts'' to beat ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2'''s sale records. Alongside that, Black Ops 2 had one of the best campaigns in the COD franchise, which worries people waiting for Ghosts.

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* ToughActToFollow: Activision themselves have admitted that they're not expecting ''Ghosts'' to beat ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2'''s sale records. Alongside that, Black Ops 2 had one of the best campaigns in the COD franchise, which worries people waiting for Ghosts.Ghosts.
* And sure enough, since the game refused to adapt any of the changes '''Black Ops 2'' introduced, the game received lower scores.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Riley (the dog).

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Riley (the dog). He was created to be a BreakoutCharacter, and he's ended up more popular than even most of the humans in the game.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: Ghosts so far is one of the lowest scoring games in the franchise, with most reviewers giving the game middling review scores, mainly because it sticks to the same Modern Warfare formula.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: Ghosts so far is one of the lowest scoring games in the franchise, with most reviewers giving the game middling review scores, mainly because it sticks to the same Modern Warfare formula.
* TearJerker: The ending once you view the after credit stinger, sadistically subverting what was supposed to be a happy ending. [[spoiler: Despite shooting Gabriel Rorke in the chest and leaving him to drown in a lake, he rises from the waters, kicks Hesh Walker in the guts and gloats about how he's going to turn David against his brother and the Ghosts, dragging him off while Hesh screams desperately, utterly helpless to stop the madman. The last shot is of the player trapped in a pit in the Amazon being tortured into becoming loyal to the federation]]
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* SoOkayItsAverage: Ghosts so far is one of the lowest scoring games in the franchise, with most reviewers giving the game middling review scores, mainly because it sticks to the same Modern Warfare formula.
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Toward the end of the prologue, there's an amazing SceneryGorn shot of San Diego being destroyed by ODIN's projectiles while Elias, Logan, and Hesh are driving away in the truck. However, they're looking down on Downtown from a road on a hillside-- a vantage point that doesn't actually exist in that part of San Diego (at least, not with an unobstructed view of the waterfront).
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* 8.8: The exact score from IGN, who is known for near-perfect scores for the franchise; Ghosts seems to be receiving lower reviews across the board than previous entries in the franchise.

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* 8.8: EightPointEight: The exact score from IGN, who is known for near-perfect scores for the franchise; Ghosts seems to be receiving lower reviews across the board than previous entries in the franchise.
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* 8.8: The exact score from IGN, who is known for near-perfect scores for the franchise; Ghosts seems to be receiving lower reviews across the board than previous entries in the franchise.
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** Some fans have also criticized the game for not including any of the gameplay advancements from ''Black Ops 2'' such as multiple-choice situations, optional missions and objectives, a voiced protagonist, and multiple endings. The single player mode is just as linear as a ''Modern Warfare'' game.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The dog.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The dog.Riley (the dog).
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Some of the BrokenBase has christened this game as [[FanNickname Modern Warfare 4]] due to Infinity Ward not separating Ghosts enough from the ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' series.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Some of the BrokenBase has christened this game as [[FanNickname Modern Warfare 4]] due to Infinity Ward not separating Ghosts enough from the ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' series. Despite it being in a clearly different continuity, with a destroyed United States and science-fiction weapons systems forming a core part of the game.
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* CompleteMonster: Whoever came up with the plan to use kinetic weapons in the single greatest opening strike on a nation since the atom bombs in World War II. Considering that many major cities in the US were hit, we're talking possibly ''tens of millions'' of casualties.
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* CompleteMonster: Whoever came up with the plan to use kinetic weapons in the single greatest opening strike on a nation since the atom bombs in World War II. Considering that many major cities in the US were hit, we're talking possibly ''tens of millions'' of casualties.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The dog.
* InternetBackdraft: Quite a few people were not happy when Activision stated they were "annoyed that GTA V" had taken all their records for best sales. Because you can't at least wish your rival game companies luck...
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Some of the BrokenBase has christened this game as [[FanNickname Modern Warfare 4]] due to Infinity Ward not separating Ghosts enough from the ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' series. Even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPl65QGMb9w the multiplayer HUD]] is similar to the multiplayer [=HUDs=] from the Modern Warfare series!
* ToughActToFollow: Activision themselves have admitted that they're not expecting ''Ghosts'' to beat Black Ops 2's sale records. Alongside that, Black Ops 2 had one of the best campaigns in the COD franchise, which worries people waiting for Ghosts.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Some of the BrokenBase has christened this game as [[FanNickname Modern Warfare 4]] due to Infinity Ward not separating Ghosts enough from the ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' series. Even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPl65QGMb9w the multiplayer HUD]] is similar to the multiplayer [=HUDs=] from the Modern Warfare series!
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* ToughActToFollow: Activision themselves have admitted that they're not expecting ''Ghosts'' to beat Black Ops 2's ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps2'''s sale records. Alongside that, Black Ops 2 had one of the best campaigns in the COD franchise, which worries people waiting for Ghosts.
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Natter removal. Use the YMMV Discussion page please.


** Honest question: how much can you realistically change something, and why would you want to do so, especially something that (in my opinion) works pretty well?
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** Honest question: how much can you realistically change something, and why would you want to do so, especially something that (in my opinion) works pretty well?
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* ToughActToFollow: Activision themselves have admitted that they're not expecting ''Ghosts'' to beat Black Ops 2's sale records. Alongside that, Black Ops 2 had one of the best campaigns in the COD franchise, which worries people waiting for Ghosts.
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Fixing something that shouldn\'t have been wiki worded. Sorry about that.


* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Some of the BrokenBase has christened this game as [[FanNickname Modern Warfare 4]] due to Infinity Ward not separating Ghosts enough from the ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' series. Even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPl65QGMb9w the multiplayer HUD]] is similar to the multiplayer HUDs from the Modern Warfare series!

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Some of the BrokenBase has christened this game as [[FanNickname Modern Warfare 4]] due to Infinity Ward not separating Ghosts enough from the ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' series. Even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPl65QGMb9w the multiplayer HUD]] is similar to the multiplayer HUDs [=HUDs=] from the Modern Warfare series!
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Starting this up with \"It\'s the same, now it sucks\".

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Some of the BrokenBase has christened this game as [[FanNickname Modern Warfare 4]] due to Infinity Ward not separating Ghosts enough from the ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' series. Even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPl65QGMb9w the multiplayer HUD]] is similar to the multiplayer HUDs from the Modern Warfare series!

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