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Up To Eleven is a defunct trope
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** Charles and Sebastian's relationship is open to interpretation in the book; the miniseries takes it UpToEleven while still retaining plausible deniability; and the movie makes Sebastian's sexuality/attraction to Charles explicit [[spoiler:via a chaste kiss]] while still keeping Charles's reciprocity ambiguous (and, predictably, [[ButNotTooGay playing up his attraction to Julia)]].
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** Charles and Sebastian's relationship is open to interpretation in the book; the miniseries takes it UpToEleven up to eleven while still retaining plausible deniability; and the movie makes Sebastian's sexuality/attraction to Charles explicit [[spoiler:via a chaste kiss]] while still keeping Charles's reciprocity ambiguous (and, predictably, [[ButNotTooGay playing up his attraction to Julia)]].
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* ValuesDissonance: Cancels itself out in terms of attitudes towards Charles and Sebastian's relationship. In the time period when the book is set, homosexuality was taboo, ''but'' [[HeterosexualLifePartners romantic friendship]] between men was still somewhat accepted. Thus, people tolerate the boys' friendship, not because they are accepting of homosexuality, but because they do not see it as homosexual.
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* ValuesDissonance: Cancels itself out in terms of attitudes towards Charles and Sebastian's relationship. In the time period when the book is set, homosexuality was taboo, ''but'' [[HeterosexualLifePartners romantic friendship]] PseudoRomanticFriendship between men was still somewhat accepted. Thus, people tolerate the boys' friendship, not because they are accepting of homosexuality, but because they do not see it as homosexual.
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** Julia says of Charles' wife "Celia always had the most delicious looks of any girl in her year." Not the prettiest or the most beautiful, the most ''delicious''. Hmm.
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* MisaimedFandom: Brideshead Revisited is a story that, in Waugh's own words, is about "the operation of divine grace on a group of diverse but closely connected characters", where most of the main characters struggle with their faith before a final triumphant embracing of it. For the Catholic audience, the message is clear. To many others, [[FanMyopia it's all about the relationship between Sebastian and Charles.]] As a devout Catholic himself, Waugh would be vexed indeed by the fanbase that has developed around Brideshead.
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* DawsonCasting: The story begins with Charles and Sebastian as first year undergraduates so presumably they are 18/19 years old despite both Jeremy Irons and Anthony Andrews being well into their 30s. Other cast members playing their contemporaries are about the same age as well.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Sebastian]] is a beautiful and lively young man at the beginning of the novel, but his family betrays him, his best friend betrays him, his lover is taken from him by the Nazis, and he spends the rest of his life as a hermetic hanger-on at an isolated monastery, with plenty of alcoholic misery along the way.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Sebastian]] is a beautiful and lively young man at the beginning of the novel, but his family betrays him, his best friend betrays him, his lover is taken from him by the Nazis, and he spends the rest of his life as a hermetic hanger-on at an isolated monastery, with plenty of alcoholic misery along the way.way.
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* HoYay: Charles and Sebastian's relationship is open to interpretation in the book; the miniseries takes it UpToEleven while still retaining plausible deniability; and the movie makes Sebastian's sexuality/attraction to Charles explicit [[spoiler:via a chaste kiss]] while still keeping Charles's reciprocity ambiguous (and, predictably, [[ButNotTooGay playing up his attraction to Julia)]].
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** Charles and Sebastian's relationship is open to interpretation in the book; the miniseries takes it UpToEleven while still retaining plausible deniability; and the movie makes Sebastian's sexuality/attraction to Charles explicit [[spoiler:via a chaste kiss]] while still keeping Charles's reciprocity ambiguous (and, predictably, [[ButNotTooGay playing up his attraction to Julia)]].
** Charles and Sebastian's relationship is open to interpretation in the book; the miniseries takes it UpToEleven while still retaining plausible deniability; and the movie makes Sebastian's sexuality/attraction to Charles explicit [[spoiler:via a chaste kiss]] while still keeping Charles's reciprocity ambiguous (and, predictably, [[ButNotTooGay playing up his attraction to Julia)]].
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Sebastian]] is a beautiful and lively young man at the beginning of the novel, but his family betrays him, his best friend betrays him, his lover is taken from him by the Nazis, and he spends the rest of his life as a hermetic hanger-on at an isolated monastery, with plenty of alcoholic misery along the way.
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* DawsonCasting: The story begins with Charles and Sebastian as first year undergraduates so presumably they are 18/19 years old despite both Jeremy Irons and Anthony Andrews being well into their 30s. Other cast members playing their contemporaries are about the same age as well.
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* BrokenBase: Over the 2008 film. Some fans enjoyed it and considered it a worthy period piece, while its detractors flamed its pacing, its casting, or for the introduction of a love triangle that was absent for the book. Others say that it can't be blamed for trying to fit Waugh's vast commentary into a two-hour film, preferring the much longer miniseries (which is lauded for its loyalty to the book).
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Aloysius. There was a fair bit of brouhaha when it was thought he would be absent from the movie.
** For those who aren't familiar with the book and who are curious who Aloysius is - he's Sebastian's ''teddy bear''.
* HoYay: The intensity of Charles and Sebastian's relationship were vague in the book but purposely amped up for the movie. The miniseries made it very obvious.
** Blanche and Sebastian are even worse.
** For those who aren't familiar with the book and who are curious who Aloysius is - he's Sebastian's ''teddy bear''.
* HoYay: The intensity of Charles and Sebastian's relationship were vague in the book but purposely amped up for the movie. The miniseries made it very obvious.
** Blanche and Sebastian are even worse.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Sebastian's teddy bear Aloysius. There was a fair bit of brouhaha when it was thought he would be absent from the movie.
** For those who aren't familiar with the book and who are curious who Aloysius is - he's Sebastian's ''teddy bear''.
* HoYay: The intensity of Charles and Sebastian's relationship were vague is open to interpretation in the book but purposely amped up for book; the movie. The miniseries made takes it very obvious.
** BlancheUpToEleven while still retaining plausible deniability; and the movie makes Sebastian's sexuality/attraction to Charles explicit [[spoiler:via a chaste kiss]] while still keeping Charles's reciprocity ambiguous (and, predictably, [[ButNotTooGay playing up his attraction to Julia)]].
** In both the miniseries and the movie, Sebastianare even worse.and Anthony Blanche greet each other with a kiss on the lips.
** Blanche
** In both the miniseries and the movie, Sebastian
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Edit trope: Values Dissonance (Since no one views Charles and Sebastian\'s relationship as gay, there is no evidence that they see gay relationships as less mature than straight ones. There \'\'is\'\' evidence that they view platonic relationships as less mature than sexual ones, but that is not an attitude that has changed noticeably. I also can\'t see Charles\' abandonment of his children as fitting this trope: the book is far from suggesting that this was a good decision on his part, and any attempts by him to justify it can be chalked up to his own narrative bias.)
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* ValuesDissonance: The idea put forth by the book that gay relationships are inherently immature front-runners to a long-term straight partnership doesn't really hold much water nowadays (of course, this depends on what circles you move in). Additionally, many people take a much dimmer view of Charles [[ParentalAbandonment walking out on his kids.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: The idea put forth by Cancels itself out in terms of attitudes towards Charles and Sebastian's relationship. In the time period when the book that gay relationships are inherently immature front-runners to a long-term straight partnership doesn't really hold much water nowadays (of course, this depends on what circles you move in). Additionally, many is set, homosexuality was taboo, ''but'' [[HeterosexualLifePartners romantic friendship]] between men was still somewhat accepted. Thus, people take a much dimmer view tolerate the boys' friendship, not because they are accepting of Charles [[ParentalAbandonment walking out on his kids.]] homosexuality, but because they do not see it as homosexual.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Sebastian]] is a beautiful and lively young man at the beginning of the novel, but his family betrays him, his best friend betrays him, his lover is taken from him by the Nazis, and he spends the rest of his life as a hermetic hanger-on at an isolated monastary, with plenty of alcoholic misery along the way.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Sebastian]] is a beautiful and lively young man at the beginning of the novel, but his family betrays him, his best friend betrays him, his lover is taken from him by the Nazis, and he spends the rest of his life as a hermetic hanger-on at an isolated monastary, monastery, with plenty of alcoholic misery along the way.
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* ValuesDissonance: The idea put forth by the book that gay relationships are inherently immature front-runners to a long-term straight partnership doesn't really hold much water nowadays (of course, this depends on what circles you move in). Additionally, many people take a much dimmer view of Charles [[ParentalAbandonment walking out on his kids.]]
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* HoYay: The intensity of Charles and Sebastian's relationship were vague in the book but purposely amped up for the movie. The miniseries made it very obvious.
** Blanche and Sebastian are even worse.
** Blanche and Sebastian are even worse.
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** For those who aren't familiar with the book and who are curious who Aloysius is - he's Sebastian's ''teddy bear''.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Sebastian]] is a beautiful and privileged young man at the beginning of the novel, but his family betrays him, his best friend betrays him, his lover is taken from him by the Nazis, and he spends the rest of his life in an isolated monastary, with plenty of alcoholic misery along the way.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Sebastian]] is a beautiful and privileged lively young man at the beginning of the novel, but his family betrays him, his best friend betrays him, his lover is taken from him by the Nazis, and he spends the rest of his life in as a hermetic hanger-on at an isolated monastary, with plenty of alcoholic misery along the way.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Aloysius. There was a fair bit of brouhaha when it was thought he would be absent from the movie.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Aloysius. There was a fair bit of brouhaha when it was thought he would be absent from the movie.movie.
* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Sebastian]] is a beautiful and privileged young man at the beginning of the novel, but his family betrays him, his best friend betrays him, his lover is taken from him by the Nazis, and he spends the rest of his life in an isolated monastary, with plenty of alcoholic misery along the way.
* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Sebastian]] is a beautiful and privileged young man at the beginning of the novel, but his family betrays him, his best friend betrays him, his lover is taken from him by the Nazis, and he spends the rest of his life in an isolated monastary, with plenty of alcoholic misery along the way.
