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* EvilIsSexy:
** Again, Sebastian. Because who doesn't love a {{bishonen}} BattleButler who never fails to look suave even after violently murdering his enemies?
** Ciel, for some of the younger fans. Sebastian may do all the work but Ciel makes all the plans and calls the shots.
** Claude as well, especially since he's essentially Sebastian's {{expy}}.
** [[spoiler: Hannah, especially in her demon outfit]].
** Don't forget about Grell, especially in some of her outfits in promotional materials.
** [[spoiler: Undertaker...when his bangs are pushed back, of course.]]
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** Sebastian and Ciel, ''the main characters'', are also both notoriously [[BaseBreakingCharacter divisive,]] particularly for those who are reading the manga and have gone through now 200 chapters and counting of little to no character development [[labelnote:Explanation]]Sebastian and Ciel were shown to develop into who they are now through flashback chapters, but as far as moving forward in the story they have changed little from when they were introduced nor have they come close to the SeriesGoal of getting revenge on those who called the attack on the Phantomhives. [[/labelnote]]

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** Sebastian and Ciel, ''the main characters'', are also both notoriously [[BaseBreakingCharacter divisive,]] particularly for those who are reading the manga and have gone through now 200 chapters and counting of little to no character development [[labelnote:Explanation]]Sebastian and Ciel were shown to develop into who they are now through flashback chapters, but as far as moving forward in the story they have changed little from when they were introduced nor have they come close to the SeriesGoal of getting revenge on those who called behind the attack on the Phantomhives. [[/labelnote]]
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*** [[spoiler:Madam Red]] is a serial killer driven by envy, but the story attempts to soften it by her sympathetic backstory, [[spoiler: making [[DisposableSexWorker her victims]] look unsympathetic in comparison to her, her motherly love of Ciel which led to her undoing, Grell betraying and killing her [[AlasPoorVilain in quite the brutal fashion,]] and the beautiful way Ciel said his goodbye to her]] so she still ended up well liked.

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*** [[spoiler:Madam Red]] is a serial killer driven by envy, but the story attempts to soften it by her sympathetic backstory, [[spoiler: making [[DisposableSexWorker her victims]] [[GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion look unsympathetic unsympathetic]] in comparison to her, her motherly love of Ciel which led to her undoing, Grell betraying and killing her [[AlasPoorVilain in quite the brutal fashion,]] and the beautiful way Ciel said his goodbye to her]] so she still ended up well liked.
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*** [[spoiler:Madam Red]] is a serial killer driven by envy, but the story attempts to soften it by her sympathetic backstory, [[spoiler: her motherly love of Ciel which led to her undoing, Grell betraying and killing her [[AlasPoorVilain quite the brutal fashion,]] and the beautiful way Ciel said his goodbye to her]] so she still ended up well liked.

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*** [[spoiler:Madam Red]] is a serial killer driven by envy, but the story attempts to soften it by her sympathetic backstory, [[spoiler: making [[DisposableSexWorker her victims]] look unsympathetic in comparison to her, her motherly love of Ciel which led to her undoing, Grell betraying and killing her [[AlasPoorVilain in quite the brutal fashion,]] and the beautiful way Ciel said his goodbye to her]] so she still ended up well liked.
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*** [[spoiler:Madam Red]] is a serial killer driven by envy, but the story attempts to soften it by her sympathetic backstory, [[spoiler: her motherly love of Ciel which led to her undoing, and the beautiful way Ciel said his goodbye to her,]] so she still ended up well liked.

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*** [[spoiler:Madam Red]] is a serial killer driven by envy, but the story attempts to soften it by her sympathetic backstory, [[spoiler: her motherly love of Ciel which led to her undoing, Grell betraying and killing her [[AlasPoorVilain quite the brutal fashion,]] and the beautiful way Ciel said his goodbye to her,]] her]] so she still ended up well liked.
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*** Additionally, some have found Grell's behavior to be so over the top and at times stereotypical to the point of viewing her more as a drag queen or a cross dresser rather than as a woman. Again, it seems in time this has died down.

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*** Additionally, some have found Grell's behavior to be so over the top and at times stereotypical or offensive to the point of viewing her more as a drag queen or a cross dresser rather than as a woman. Again, it seems in time this has died down.
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** The ending of chapter 135 has sparked this reaction in two ways. First you have the fans who [[IKnewIt already guessed the twist]] vs those who [[WhamEpisode thought it came out of left field]]. Then, there's the fans who [[GratuitousRape think it was completely unnecessary]] and hate the entire thing, versus those who applaud YT because [[TrueArtIsAngsty they view the horror conveyed in the chapter as a testament to her skills as a writer]].

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** The ending of chapter 135 has sparked this reaction in two ways. First you have the fans who [[IKnewIt already guessed the twist]] vs those who [[WhamEpisode thought it came out of left field]]. Then, there's the fans who [[GratuitousRape think it was completely unnecessary]] and hate the entire thing, versus those who applaud YT because [[TrueArtIsAngsty they view the horror conveyed in the chapter as a testament to her skills as a writer]].writer.
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** [[MST3KMantra Being willing]] to deliberately self-inflict this is considered almost required to enjoy this series given how many of the important characters having some pretty nasty traits.

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** [[MST3KMantra Being willing]] to deliberately self-inflict this is considered almost required to enjoy this series given how many of the important characters having have some pretty nasty traits.

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*** Even Mey-Rin, Bard, and Finny aren't completely immune to this given they become extremely cold, jerkish, and sadistic respectively when handling intruders and enemies. Their case, however, is more easy to gloss over given these moments are pretty rare and are further backed up with DarkAndTroubledPast.

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** [[MST3KMantra Being willing]] to deliberately self-inflict this is considered almost required to enjoy this series, because of the important characters with nasty traits.

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** [[MST3KMantra Being willing]] to deliberately self-inflict this is considered almost required to enjoy this series, because series given how many of the important characters with having some pretty nasty traits.



*** Ciel is extremely ruthless and perfectly fine with manipulating and killing people if he sees it fit, and yet he's just as adored by the fandom as Sebastian is.

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*** Ciel is extremely ruthless and perfectly fine with manipulating and manipulating, hurting, or outright killing people if anyone that he sees it fit, fit no matter if they're guilty or innocent, and yet he's just as adored by the fandom as Sebastian is.


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*** Even Mey-Rin, Bard, and Finny aren't completely immune to this given they become extremely cold, jerkish, and sadistic respectively when handling intruders and enemies. Their case, however, is more easy to gloss over given these moments are pretty rare and are further backed up with DarkAndTroubledPast.

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* IKnewIt:
** [[spoiler: A vocal minority of fans spent much time attempting to reassure the rest of the fandom that A-1 were trolling the fanbase and that Ciel and Sebastian would return in full capacity, despite the announcement of the new master and butler. Guess what happened when episode 1 aired?]]
** Some fans were guessing that [[spoiler:Alois was cross-dressing to meet Ciel]] after a preview for episode five. [[spoiler:They were right.]]
** In the murder mystery arc in the manga, a lot of people speculated that [[spoiler: Sebastian was not really dead]]; they were right. Some others also speculated that [[spoiler: a snake]] would be used to commit one or more of the murders; they were also right.
** One person on this site's WMG page predicted that [[spoiler:if Ciel gave up on revenge, he'd be breaking the contract, and Sebastian would be free to devour his soul]].
** One fan theory speculated that [[spoiler:the Shinigami were all once humans who committed suicide and now must atone for it. This is confirmed in chapter 105]].
** A lot of theorists speculated that [[spoiler: Ciel had an elder twin brother who was sacrificed to summon Sebastian and that said twin was the original Ciel Phantomhive. His appearance in Chapter 129 confirmed this.]]
** Ciel having experienced [[spoiler: RapeAsBackstory during his month-long imprisonment]] was speculated for a long time before chapter 135 confirmed it, though most fans who guessed it [[NightmareFuel weren't exactly happy about it]]...
** Some viewers noticed that since [[spoiler:Undertaker]] was watching afar from Kelvin's mansion there might be a chance that [[spoiler:Doll or Joker might make a reappearance]]. Come chapter 192, [[spoiler:Doll has returned, although whether or not she's truly alive or has become a bizarre doll remains to be seen]].
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** In episode 6 of the first season, Sebastian states that he is quite confident in fist fighting before [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beating the ever loving stuffing out of Grell]]. His Japanese voice actor, Creator/DaisukeOno, would later voice two characters well known for [[CurbStompBattle their]] [[ExtremeMeleeRevenge over-the-top]] [[RapidFireFisticuffs violent beat-downs]], but with plenty of yelling [[{{LightNovel/Durarara}} IZAYAAA!!!]] and [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure ORAORAORA!!!]] thrown in.

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** In episode 6 of the first season, Sebastian states that he is quite confident in fist fighting before [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beating the ever loving stuffing out of Grell]]. His Japanese voice actor, Creator/DaisukeOno, would later voice two characters well known for [[CurbStompBattle their]] [[ExtremeMeleeRevenge over-the-top]] [[RapidFireFisticuffs violent beat-downs]], but with plenty of yelling [[{{LightNovel/Durarara}} [[{{Literature/Durarara}} IZAYAAA!!!]] and [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure ORAORAORA!!!]] thrown in.
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: The second season of the Black Butler anime is seen as this by nearly all of the fandom. The shotacon fanservice was cranked up to intolerably squicky levels, the new characters were poorly written and completely unlikable (and the returning ones were derailed or flanderized), and the plot was a near-complete mess that had nothing to do with the manga and had a GainaxEnding. It took ''years'' for another season to be made, and it unsurprisingly ignores everything that happened in this.
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** Sebastian and Ciel, ''the main characters'', are also both notoriously [[BaseBreakingCharacter divisive]] now, particularly for those who are reading the manga and have gone through now nearing 200 chapters of little to no character development [[labelnote:Explanation]]Sebastian and Ciel were shown to develop into who they are now through flashback chapters, but as far as moving forward in the story they have changed little from when they were introduced nor have they come close to the SeriesGoal of getting revenge on those who called the attack on the Phantomhives. [[/labelnote]]

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** Sebastian and Ciel, ''the main characters'', are also both notoriously [[BaseBreakingCharacter divisive]] now, divisive,]] particularly for those who are reading the manga and have gone through now nearing 200 chapters and counting of little to no character development [[labelnote:Explanation]]Sebastian and Ciel were shown to develop into who they are now through flashback chapters, but as far as moving forward in the story they have changed little from when they were introduced nor have they come close to the SeriesGoal of getting revenge on those who called the attack on the Phantomhives. [[/labelnote]]

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* LoveToHate: Sebastian and Ciel are a VillainProtagonist duo who are both willing to stoop to unbelievable lows during their missions, and yet that's part of the reason why fans love them so much.

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* LoveToHate: Sebastian and Ciel are a VillainProtagonist duo who are both willing to stoop to unbelievable lows during their missions, and yet that's part of the reason why fans love them so much. Being WickedCultured members of TheBeautifulElite portrayed quite charmingly/sympathetically with a dark yet interesting dynamic prone to HoYay also works in their favor.
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** A lot of fans like to portray the [[CampGay stereotypical]], [[AxeCrazy blood thirsty]] [[AbhorrentAdmirer sexual harasser]] Grell as a misunderstood [=LGBT=] icon and ignore how offensive and over the top the character is.
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** Sebastian sloppily defiling a cake alone in a dark room on Ciel's 13th birthday while everyone else is upstairs having a birthday party for Ciel. It was probably supposed to be dramatic or erotic to see Sebastian sticking his fingers into a cake and then slowly licking them as he goes on one of his "humanity is weird" tangents, but it just comes off like he's seriously lost it. ''[[FridgeLogic He doesn't even like cake.]]''
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*** Less so when you realize Grell's suicidal tendencies [[AdaptationalAngstUpgrade only appear in the anime and are not canon to the manga,]] and manga Grell is much more well-adjusted and even a respected sempai to Ronald.


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** In chapter 131.5, Mei Rin, we find out that Sebastian doesn't own any clothes other than his butler outfit and Mei Rin imagines that he sleeps naked. According to the character guide, he does in fact sleep sometimes, meaning ''Mei Rin was right.''
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The [=DS=] tie-in game is just a collection of mini-games that barely count as games.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The [=DS=] tie-in game is just a visual novel with a collection of mini-games that barely count as games.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The [=DS=] tie-in game is just a collection of mini-games that barely count as games.
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*** Ciel is 12/13. That alone is enough to make any ships involving him and an adult squiky.


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** A minor one compared to the above examples, but anytime a character eats with their bare hands.
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*** One particular line from Claude has him note in the lines of how Ciel has traversed through much darkness yet his soul remained uncorrupted. Is Ciel simply a very resilient individual, or was his soul already a shade of black to begin with?

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*** One Going from the above one particular line from Claude has him note in the lines of how Ciel has traversed through much darkness yet his soul remained uncorrupted. Is Ciel simply a very resilient individual, or was his soul already a shade of black to begin with?
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*** Sebastian is a demon who won't think twice about committing heinous deeds and his end goal is basically to [[SapientEatSapient cannibalize]] Ciel, [[SoulEating only even worse]], but he's still liked by most of the fanbase.

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*** Sebastian is a demon who won't think twice about committing heinous deeds and his end goal is basically to [[SapientEatSapient cannibalize]] Ciel, Ciel [[SoulEating only even worse]], but and yet he's still liked loved by most of the fanbase.
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*** Sebastian is a demon and his end goal is basically to [[SapientEatSapient cannibalize]] Ciel, [[SoulEating only even worse]], but he's still liked by most of the fanbase.

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*** Sebastian is a demon who won't think twice about committing heinous deeds and his end goal is basically to [[SapientEatSapient cannibalize]] Ciel, [[SoulEating only even worse]], but he's still liked by most of the fanbase.



*** Undertaker is popular despite that among other things, [[spoiler: some see very [[ILoveTheDead weird implications]] about his mortician job...]]

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*** Undertaker is popular despite that among other things, [[spoiler: some see very [[ILoveTheDead weird implications]] about his mortician job...oh, and everything in regards to the bizarre doll experiments.]]
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** Boxchan,[[note]] A play on the words "box" and "bocchan," the latter of which is Japanese for "young master" and the title Sebastian and the servants use to address Ciel[[/note]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin for any time in season II that]] [[GirlInABox Ciel is in a box]].

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** Boxchan,[[note]] A play on the words "box" and "bocchan," the latter of which is Japanese for "young master" and the title Sebastian and the servants use to address Ciel[[/note]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin for any time in season II that]] [[GirlInABox that Ciel is in a box]].
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*** One particular line from Claude has him note in the lines of how Ciel has traversed through much darkness yet his soul remained uncorrupted. Is Ciel simply a very resilient individual, or was his soul already a shade of black to begin with?

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*** **** One particular line from Claude has him note in the lines of how Ciel has traversed through much darkness yet his soul remained uncorrupted. Is Ciel simply a very resilient individual, or was his soul already a shade of black to begin with?

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*** One particular line from Claude has him note in the lines of how Ciel endured much darkness yet his soul remained uncorrupted. Is Ciel simply a very resilient individual, or was his soul already a shade of black to begin with?

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*** One particular line from Claude has him note in the lines of how Ciel endured has traversed through much darkness yet his soul remained uncorrupted. Is Ciel simply a very resilient individual, or was his soul already a shade of black to begin with?
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Ship Sinking is not YMMV and has been redefined to require in-universe acknowledgment for both the possibility of the couple and the ship sinking itself. It is also one specific moment that completely and permanently ends all possibility of the couple getting together or back together and does not include WoG.


* ShipSinking:
** Done in episode 7 of the second season in regards to the [[spoiler:Ciel/Alois and Claude/Alois ships when Ciel stabs Alois in the stomach and tries to stab him in the head but is stopped by Claude (though he struggles with Claude and Sebastian in an attempt to get back to Alois's side so he can kill him) and when Claude proceeds to completely ignore Alois's pleas for help after getting a taste of Ciel's blood.]] And in episode 8 [[spoiler: Alois practically confesses his love for Claude who smiles and holds his face tenderly before crushing his skull]].
** Though, the [[spoiler:Claude/Alois]] ship seems to be at least partially restored in episode 12.
** The anime showed Grell getting a crush on Undertaker. Shortly after, they met in the manga and developed an instant dislike for each other after Undertaker scratched Grell's face.
* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Lizzie and Snake.

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* ShipSinking:
** Done in episode 7 of the second season in regards to the [[spoiler:Ciel/Alois and Claude/Alois ships when Ciel stabs Alois in the stomach and tries to stab him in the head but is stopped by Claude (though he struggles with Claude and Sebastian in an attempt to get back to Alois's side so he can kill him) and when Claude proceeds to completely ignore Alois's pleas for help after getting a taste of Ciel's blood.]] And in episode 8 [[spoiler: Alois practically confesses his love for Claude who smiles and holds his face tenderly before crushing his skull]].
** Though, the [[spoiler:Claude/Alois]] ship seems to be at least partially restored in episode 12.
** The anime showed Grell getting a crush on Undertaker. Shortly after, they met in the manga and developed an instant dislike for each other after Undertaker scratched Grell's face.
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%%* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Lizzie and Snake.
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** The [[spoiler:sex scene between Sebastian and Beast]] can be this, especially due to the stilted and unfeeling nature of the scene to which some have compared to sexual harassment and even assault. This also goes for [[spoiler: the similar scene in the anime between Sebastian and the nun.]]

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** The [[spoiler:sex scene between Sebastian and Beast]] can be this, especially due to the stilted and unfeeling nature of the scene to which some have compared to sexual harassment and even assault. assault/abuse. This also goes (to a lesser degree) for [[spoiler: the similar scene in the anime between Sebastian and the nun.]]

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