History YMMV / BeyondTwoSouls

* FanNickname: Thanks to the way Creator/ElliotPage (nee Ellen) was acting in it, [[Creator/BenCroshaw Yahtzee]] of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' had a tendency to call the game ''The Ellen Page Variety Hour'', ''Ellen Page-apalooza'', ''The Ellen Page=David Cage Rage Gauge'', and ''[[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins Despite Ellen Page, I Am Still Just a Rat in a Cage]]''.

** The Homeless folk are also well liked for being the only group of people who are kind and sincere to Jodie with no ulterior motives, going as far as to treat her connection with Aiden not as a 'curse' but as a 'miracle', as well as checking up on her [[spoiler: in the hospital after Jodie is comatose from either rescuing them from the fire and is attacked by muggers, or if she nearly dies in the burning building and is rescued by Stan ]]. Players would rejoice upon finding out that [[spoiler: Jodie has the option to live with them in a home of their own in one of multiple endings of the player's choice.]]

* OvershadowedByControversy: Many people's knowledge about this game centers around Creator/{{Elliot Page}}'s allegations of poor treatment from David Cage, to the point where he considered a lawsuit, after he found out that Cage had made a [[https://kotaku.com/the-video-game-that-began-with-pictures-of-ellen-page-1440500148 scrapbook of nearly two thousand photos of him going back to when he was eight years old, and before Cage even approached Page about working with him for the game.]] Page was also furious to learn that, in spite of his contract containing a no-nudity clause, the developers made a fully rendered 3D nude model of him, and included it with the game as DummiedOut content, which [[https://www.thefandomentals.com/david-cage-questionable-sexual-encounters/ dataminers were able to easily find soon after the game launched.]]

** For those who are still feeling sore about [[spoiler: Ryan's manipulating Jodie into killing a democratically elected president by outing him as a warlord, during the torture scene you can choose not to talk when prompted and watch as their captives cut out Ryan's left eye for staying silent. Taking the Beyond Ending where Ryan lives also feels like this since you could interpret it as Jodie hating Ryan so much she'd rather ''die'' than stay with him.]] It is also possible for [[spoiler:Nathan to shoot and kill Ryan during the finale.]]

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Madison, the female protagonist in Quantic Dream's previous game ''VideoGame/HeavyRain'', was frequently criticized for being used as {{Fanservice}} in ways that were seen as tasteless. Her scenes often involved her being assaulted by sexually violent aggressors as well as [[spoiler:having sex with another character just hours after said assaults]], with her prior abuses [[AngstWhatAngst virtually ignored]]. Here, Jodie isn't used for {{Fanservice}} nearly as much, and if [[spoiler:she was attacked in ''Like Other Girls'' by the bar patrons, she freezes up and reacts negatively when Ryan attempts to have sex with her in a later chapter due to her trauma]].

* EightPointEight: At the time of release, critical reviews from the New York Times, [=EuroGamer=], and Edge got flack from the playerbase. Many fans appear to dismiss those reviews as simply hating David Cage, even though said reviews specifically criticized the game's writing and direction.

* RelationshipWritingFumble: At least on Aiden’s side toward Jodie, which is part of the reason why players shipped them in the first place. Aiden seems extremely possessive of Jodie, to the point of becoming jealous when Jodie goes on a date with Ryan, allowing the player to potentially sabotage their date with his power. [[spoiler: When it’s revealed that he’s her stillborn twin brother, it becomes a bit strange for some players considering this aspect of their dynamic.]]

* OvershadowedByControversy: David Cage's treatment of Elliot Page was bad enough that he considered a lawsuit, as he found out that Cage had made a [[https://kotaku.com/the-video-game-that-began-with-pictures-of-ellen-page-1440500148 scrapbook of nearly two thousand photos of him going back to when he was eight years old, and before Cage even approached Page about working with him for the game.]] Page was also furious to learn that the developers had made a fully rendered 3D nude model of him and shipped the game with it as DummiedOut content, when Elliot's contract has a specific no-nudity clause, and [[https://www.thefandomentals.com/david-cage-questionable-sexual-encounters/ dataminers were able to easily find the files soon after the game launched.]]

* WhatAnIdiot:
** Nathan sends Jodie to a girl's birthday party, said party is full of [[TeensAreMonsters spoiled and egotistical kids who treats Jodie like dirt regardless of how hard she tries to fit in with them]]. The kids themselves count as they apparently never heard of [[Creator/StephenKing Carrie]] before, as they thought [[BullyingTheDragon bullying a girl with a violently over-protective guardian angel]] was a brilliant idea. Even if they didn't believe Jodie had powers, they knew she had been explicitly invited by the birthday girl's mother, who works at the base Jodie resides so bringing harm to Jodie would have caused a lot of trouble for the mother. No wonder many people chose to take revenge on them.
** And what sparks them to turn against her? Simply because Birthday Girl didn't like Jodie's gift of an Edgar Allen Poe book. A simple off-handed "thank you" could've sufficed, but no. Let's make fun of a sheltered girl whom she ''at least heard'' has powers, and may have even demonstrated them, over ''a birthday present''. Jodie even mentions that the book ''is rare'' so even if she didn't like the gift, she could've just sold the thing to a collector and probably gotten some good money for it.
** Jay, an experienced ranch hand, lets Jodie, who has 0 experience with horses, get into an enclosed pen with an unruly horse. She manages to deal with the help of Aiden, but still...
** Ryan gets several in succession after Jodie realises he lied to her about the operation where [[spoiler:she killed a democratically elected leader of another country.]] Expressing absolutely NoSympathy for her morals being opposed to the purpose of the operation while she has a spirit who can [[spoiler:tamper with a helicopter's operating system]] was always going to end in disaster.
** Ryan asking Aiden to lead him and Cole to Jodie '''out loud''' right in front of a guard [[spoiler: while Jodie is being held captive by the government for being too useful to let go]]. The fact that Aiden goes through the trouble to trick the guard into letting Ryan and Cole through in order to go the floor where [[spoiler: Jodie is held prisoner]] makes this moronic moment all the more infuriating.
** Possibly due to poor design, during the "Norah" stage Cole will likely just wander in front of the security cameras at the mental institution before Jodie can finish disabling them. No wonder the two of you get caught immediately afterwards.
** The ''entire game'' is essentially a series of What An Idiot moments, since every chapter involves some poor fool [[BullyingADragon giving a girl with dangerous psychic powers]] a reason to want them dead. The only variation is whether or not the poor fool is aware of Jodie's powers, and only a few haven't at least heard about them.

* OvershadowedByControversy: David Cage's treatment of Elliot Page was bad enough that he considered a lawsuit, as he found out that Cage had made a [[https://kotaku.com/the-video-game-that-began-with-pictures-of-ellen-page-1440500148 scrapbook of nearly two thousand photos of him going back to when he was eight years old, and before Cage even approached Page about working with him for the game.]] Page was also furious to learn that the game had made a fully rendered 3D nude model of him, when Elliot's contract has a specific no-nudity clause, and [[https://www.thefandomentals.com/david-cage-questionable-sexual-encounters/ dataminers were able to easily find the files soon after the game launched.]]

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'', both [=PS3=] exclusives at the time. Aside from that, the games have little in common, outside of Ellie (One of the main characters in ''The Last Of Us'') looking like Creator/ElliotPage in early development. The rivalry began in earnest when Elliot himself brought the issue up, which was a genuine case of shit-stirring on the interviewer's behalf because Page was quizzed as to their thoughts on that one and apparently didn't have it explained to him that the character model had long been changed for Ellie. There are still some people who think Ellie looks like Page even now, but the resemblance isn't as blatant as it once was.

* SugarWiki/SheReallyCanAct: Ellen Page's performance has been getting this from lots of critics, even ones who don't like the game.

* EightPointEight: At the time of release, critical reviews from the New York Times, [=EuroGamer=], and Edge got flack from the playerbase. Many fans appear to dismiss those reviews as simply hating David Cage, even though said reviews specifically criticized the game's writing and direction. Sony Access appears to be [[http://ohnovideogames.com/the-sony-strawman responding to the reviews]] with [[TheWarOnStraw Strawman]] arguments.

* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Elliot Page's performance has been getting this from lots of critics, even ones who don't like the game.

* OvershadowedByControversy: David Cage's treatment of Elliot Page was bad enough that she considered a lawsuit, as she found out that Cage had made a [[https://kotaku.com/the-video-game-that-began-with-pictures-of-ellen-page-1440500148 scrapbook of nearly two thousand photos of her going back to when she was eight years old, and before Cage even approached Page about working with him for the game.]] Page was also furious to learn that the game had made a fully rendered 3D nude model of her, when Elliot's contract has a specific no-nudity clause, and [[https://www.thefandomentals.com/david-cage-questionable-sexual-encounters/ dataminers were able to easily find the files soon after the game launched.]]

* OvershadowedByControversy: David Cage's treatment of Ellen Page was bad enough that she considered a lawsuit, as she found out that Cage had made a [[https://kotaku.com/the-video-game-that-began-with-pictures-of-ellen-page-1440500148 scrapbook of nearly two thousand photos of her going back to when she was eight years old, and before Cage even approached Page about working with him for the game.]] Page was also furious to learn that the game had made a fully rendered 3D nude model of her, when Ellen's contract has a specific no-nudity clause, and [[https://www.thefandomentals.com/david-cage-questionable-sexual-encounters/ dataminers were able to easily find the files soon after the game launched.]]

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'', both [=PS3=] exclusives at the time. Aside from that, the games have little in common, outside of Ellie (One of the main characters in ''The Last Of Us'') looking like Creator/EllenPage in early development. The rivalry began in earnest when Ellen herself brought the issue up, which was a genuine case of shit-stirring on the interviewer's behalf because Page was quizzed as to her thoughts on that one and apparently didn't have it explained to her that the character model had long been changed for Ellie. There are still some people who think Ellie looks like Page even now, but the resemblance isn't as blatant as it once was.
* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Ellen Page's performance has been getting this from lots of critics, even ones who don't like the game.

** The [[spoiler:"Zoey"]] ending. The recording quality of the voice acting sounds terrible, combined with a heavily French accented girl trying to do an American accent who is fairly bad at acting makes it impossible to take the serious ending... Well, seriously.

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'', both [=PS3=] exclusives at the time. Aside from that, the games have little in common, outside of Ellie (One of the main characters in ''The Last Of Us'') looking like Creator/EllenPage in early development. The rivalry began in earnest when Ellen herself brought the issue up, which was a genuine case of shit-stirring on the interviewer's behalf because Page was quizzed as to her thoughts on that one and apparently didn't have it explained to her that the character model had long been changed for Ellie. There's still some people who think Ellie still looks like Page, but the resemblance isn't as blatant as it once was.

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'', both [=PS3=] exclusives at the time. Aside from that, the games have little in common, outside of Ellie (One of the main characters in ''The Last Of Us'') looked like Creator/EllenPage in early development. The rivalry began in earnest when Ellen herself brought the issue up, which was a genuine case of shit-stirring on the interviewer's behalf because Page was quizzed as to her thoughts on that one and apparently didn't have it explained to her that the character model had long been changed for Ellie. There's still some people who think Ellie still looks like Page, but the resemblance isn't as blatant as it once was.

* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler:The ending of "Homeless". So you feed a group of really nice homeless folks, fend off some jerkasses abusing those homeless, heal their physical and psychological wounds, help a woman give birth, save the homeless guys, the woman, ''and'' the baby from a fire, then Aiden spends all his power saving Jodie, and what do you get for your trouble? Two baseball bat blows to the head from those same jerkasses (who also put the building on fire to get back at you) and three months in a coma. And the worst part of it is that you may never get back at them for this.]]
** [[spoiler:Except that after Jodie wakes up, you can check the newspaper clipping hanging by her bedside which gives her a vision of Stan putting it up and saying that the thugs got picked up by the police soon after, [[LaserGuidedKarma due to the gasoline on their clothes.]]]]