History YMMV / BattlestarGalacticaReimagined

* AccidentalAesop: The series finale seems to have an {{Anvilicious}} anti-technology {{Aesop}} that comes completely out of nowhere. Ron Moore admits in his podcast on the episode that this was simply a desperate last-minute attempt to explain [[spoiler:why none of the fleet's technology was discovered after they arrived on prehistoric Earth, and he didn't put much thought into any message that could be read into it.]]
** The SpaceWhaleAesop for the entire series could easily be, "technology is fine, just ''don't'' build robots".
* AlasPoorScrappy: Cally may have been such an unpleasant shrew by season 4.0 that you might find yourself wishing for her to be eliminated, but the way it happened...
** Kat may be an even straighter example.
* {{Anvilicious}}:
** The unbelievably corny, thankfully deleted final moments of the series finale: [[spoiler: Be nice to your robots, or the Cylon War will repeat again.]] Real subtle.
** Let's not even go to the religious angle.
* AwesomeEgo: Gaius Baltar and Kara Thrace.
* BaseBreaker: Gaius frakking Baltar.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Caprica-Six's spine glowing while having sex with Baltar in the miniseries, and Boomer's doing the same the first time she sleeps with Helo on Caprica. This is never shown, much less referred to again, and it seems to go way beyond EarlyInstallmentWeirdness.
** The novelization explicitly states most of the radiation is in the infrared; we can conclude that the TV series simply shifted the wavelength for dramatic effect.
*** WordOfGod is that the spines weren't meant to be literal and were just a clue for the audience. Plus, keeping them would have made it silly after a while that this obvious physical difference didn't lead to anyone being discovered as a Cylon. After all, there are multiple positions one can have sex in, and several of them involve seeing your partner's back.
* BizarroEpisode:
** "The Woman King". Of all the so-called stand-alone episodes ("Black Market", "Scar", "A Day in the Life", "Dirty Hands", etc.) it is the only one with no connections to the over-all plot of the series, can be completely excised from the show without losing any vital story developments, everyone in it acts wildly out of character and [[WordOfGod even Ron Moore hated it]].
*** It also doesn't help that several scenes in earlier episodes that would have made the events make more sense (most notably Helo having reported several things that turned out to be false to better explain why no one will listen to him now) were deleted, and the whole thing was meant to lead into a storyline (which Baltar's mysterious whisper to Gaeta was also supposed to tie into) that ended up getting thrown out.
** "Black Market" also strays into BLAM territory, though it averts this by killing off a minor (but significant) character and paving the way for a major plot turn later.
* BrokenBase: Immediately cropped up when SyFy announced that, ''in addition to Series/{{Caprica}}'', they were planning to launch a new show focused on Adama's young days as a Viper pilot. Cue half the fanbase saying "finally, no more frakking teenage angst!" and the other half saying "so they're substituting the ideas and complex storylines of ''Caprica'' for a show with explosions?" It doesn't help that SyFy is specifically pushed the action element as an alternative to ''Caprica''. Not that mattered, since [[VaporWare the show never materialized]].
* TheChrisCarterEffect: It would be nice if the Cylons shared their plan with the writers. Or admitted if their plan has been totally derailed by now. Or how the lost Cylons became lost. Or what the significance of the Final Five were in the grand scheme of things. Or everything else.
** Somewhat turned on its head halfway through season four when it's suggested the 'plan' is [[spoiler: the final five's plan, not the significant seven's.]] The plan was finally revealed a few episodes before the series ends. It turned out that there were ''two'' vague sets of goals; [[spoiler: the Final Five were trying to break the CycleOfRevenge between humans and Cylons,]] and [[spoiler: John was out to convince the Final Five that humans weren't worth saving.]] ''And'' then in the MadeForTVMovie ''The Plan'', it turns out that [[spoiler: at least one of the Number Ones/Cavils changed his mind as to what the plan should be.]]
* CompleteMonster:
** [[BigBad (John) Cavil aka Number One]] is the de facto leader of the Cylons [[PsychoPrototype and the first model of the Significant Eight]] made by the Final Five, the progenitors of the race. He proves to be a hateful being angered by his creators' decision to give him a human body. He [[CainAndAbel kills his brother Daniel]] out of jealousy, wiping out the line. He wipes the minds of his five parents and reprograms his siblings to forget about them. Then he puts the Final Five on human worlds to witness the genocide he initiates against the Twelve Colonies and hunts down the surviving humans to spite them and to make them realize they should love him as the "prince of the universe" he fancies himself as. Despite professing to want revenge for the humans' enslavement of the Centurions, he [[{{Hypocrite}} promptly does]] [[RobotsEnslavingRobots the same thing]]. He uses a ScarpiaUltimatum to rape his mother and tortures and mutilates his father. During his time in the human fleet Cavil also killed a young orphan boy just because they were becoming friends, and at the end of the series tries to dissect little Hera Agathon to uncover the secret to Cylon procreation. He permanently boxes the Threes over the other Cylons' objections. When half of his brethren break with him over his enslavement of the Centurions and Raiders, he promptly wipes out the Sixes, Twos, and Eights, leaving only a handful alive. While John claims he wants to be a robot more than anything, he willfully succumbs to the lowest human instincts he so hates: vengeance, lust, and sadism.
** Phelan, the ex-military mercenary turned crime lord from season 2’s "[[Recap/BattlestarGalacticaReimaginedS02E14BlackMarket Black Market]]," runs the titular market and garrotes anyone who threatens his supremacy. When Apollo investigates the death of one of Phelan's competitors, the man pays him a visit, abducting the HookerWithAHeartOfGold Apollo had been seeing regularly and taking her daughter, warning Apollo that "I hear any more talk about Fisk I'm gonna send your whore back to you piece by piece, and then I'm gonna start on the little girl." As if that's not enough, in his headquarters he keeps a bunch of children locked in a cell. When Apollo confronts him and asks about that, he claims that some people are "demanding". When Apollo demands the kid back, Phelan replies, "Sorry, the little girl's been paid for. No refunds."
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: In season one's "You Can't Go Home Again", Starbuck is shot down on a moon, and Bill Adama pushes and pushes the deadline to abandon her, putting the fleet in danger. Lee, full of {{Angst}} and [[IAmNotMyFather unresolved]] father [[FollowInMyFootsteps issues]], [[CallingTheOldManOut skeptically asks]] his father [[spoiler:if he would've waited so long if Lee was down there.]]
-->'''Cmdr. Adama:''' ''[calmly and with certainty]'' [[spoiler:If you were down there, we would never leave.]]\\
Lee reacts basically [[spoiler:as if he'd been slapped in the face. With his father's love.]]
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
** The BearMcCreary cover of ''All Along The Watchtower'', among others.
** Pretty much '''every single piece of music''' BearMcCreary composed for the show qualifies.
** Let's count up some of the favorites though:
** Miniseries - ''To Kiss or Not to Kiss'' & ''Reunited'' (both by Richard Gibbs)
** Season 1 - ''A Good Lighter'', ''Wander My Friends'', ''The Shape of Things to Come'', ''Destiny'', ''Passacaglia''
** Season 2 - ''Allegro'', ''Reuniting the Fleet'', ''Martial Law'', ''Roslin And Adama'', ''Pegasus'', ''Prelude to War'', ''One Year Later'', ''Worthy of Survival'', ''Something Dark Is Coming''
** Season 3 - ''Battlestar Sonatica'', ''Storming New Caprica'', ''Someone to Trust'', ''Heeding the Call'', ''All Along the Watchtower''
** Season 4 - ''Gaeta's Lament'', ''Resurrection Hub'', ''The Signal'', ''Diaspora Oratorio'', ''The Line'', ''Assault on the Colony'', ''Kara's Coordinates'', ''[[spoiler:Earth]]'', ''The Heart of the Sun'', ''Roslin And Adama Reunited'', ''So Much Life'', ''An Easterly View''
** Specials - ''Apocalypse''
** Shall I go on?
** BearMcCreary himself considers ''Diaspora Oratorio'' [[http://io9.com/5557483/composer-bear-mccreary-jumps-from-battlestar-galactica-to-videogames his personal]] CrowningMusicOfAwesome, even though [[http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=396 it nearly drove him to a]] CreatorBreakdown.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The show skirted this line throughout its run, coming closer to the edge with each successive season. However, given its continued popularity, it's clear widespread apathy never took hold with the core audience.
* DracoInLeatherPants:
** Gaius Baltar is an insufferable, irritating, self-proclaimed genius (okay, he does have that going for him), and is arguably one of the major villains for a couple of seasons, but still the ladies swoon over his macho stubble. In show as well given his successes. Though this is helped by him being amusing, oddly sympathetic despite his narcissism, hugely charismatic and genuinely a genius, if out of his depth in the circumstances he finds himself in. And mad. In the series finale, Baltar makes the leap from being DracoInLeatherPants to being a CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass by being Horatius at the Bridge in his defense against the Cylon borders. Thus, he finally did something that, as Apollo demanded, didn't even indirectly benefit Gaius Baltar. Aside from proving Apollo wrong, which has got to be satisfying on ''some'' level.
** A more serious example of this would be Leoben Conoy. While he is certainly a MagnificentBastard, has genuine (Albeit twisted) love for Starbuck, can even be [[AffablyEvil pleasant company]] and is played by the incredibly charismatic Callum Keith Rennie, many fans ship him with Starbuck as though it were a storybook romance, ignoring little things like him keeping her locked up for months, kidnapping a child and trying to force her into motherhood and her stabbing him to death every night, only for him to download again the next day (which is straight out of a horror movie). It probably doesn't help that Creator/KateeSackhoff herself said she supports the relationship.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Romo Lampkin. Being played by Mark Sheppard already likely guaranteed he'd end up as one, but his array of memorable quirks and slippery morality quickly made him one of the most popular characters. He also gets points for ranting about the flaws of the show's EsotericHappyEnding.
* EpilepticTrees: It was widely speculated that Daniel was Starbuck's father and that he taught her [[spoiler:"All Along The Watchtower".]] But this was never the plan, and the episodes were finished long before they were seen. Other speculations about Daniel include that he was Baltar, father of [[BrotherSisterIncest Baltar AND Starbuck]], Zak, Gaeta, or responsible for the Head Characters.
** To say nothing of the theories surrounding the identity of the Fifth Cylon. Earth, the ''Galactica'', all of humanity (as in ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''), the audience...
** In fact, the series has brought out the crazy theories since Season One. For example, that Boomer was not a Cylon and everything happening on Cylon-Occupied Caprica was a DreamSequence.
* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler:The ending is both very religious (a large part involves a ''literal'' DeusExMachina, though admittedly this part of it had been foreshadowed for most of the series) and very LuddWasRight, both attributes which pissed off a rather large portion of the sci-fi fans who'd watched it, but actually made quite a bit religious watcher extremely happy (some even call it the best sci-fi show). It doesn't help that without their modern technology, most of the survivors would have both greatly shortened life expectancies and greatly reduced quality of life. A large number of fans found it rather unbelievable that the entire population of ''Galactica'' would consent to giving up ''all'' their technology without any apparent major objections. Romo even points out the impossibility that it could work, but somehow it still apparently does.]]
** [[DownerEnding Or does it?]] [[spoiler: No traces survive of the culture that they supposedly set out to build. Humanity would not reach a level of having things like agriculture or anything more than the most primitive tools for something like 140,000 years. The implication being that whatever non-technological society they attempted to create was an utter failure, with the entire culture dying out and the human race having to essentially develop everything from scratch over the course of a huge span of time]].
** One wonders if the writers had any idea what they were saying when they tell us that [[spoiler:the "fossilized remains of a young woman" were found: that Hera, for whom so much had been sacrificed, probably only lived long enough to have a couple of children, and quite possibly died in childbirth.]]
* EvilIsSexy: The female Cylons.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans pretend "Black Market", "Hero", and ''especially'' "The Woman King" never happened.
* FridgeBrilliance: The "Final Five" moniker is actually still relevant in light of the revelation that they were actually the ''first'' five Cylons, as they are still the ''final'' five survivors from [[spoiler:the first Earth]], and thus the final five members of their original race.
* FridgeHorror: the adults were having a hard time with the lack of sleep in the episode "33". Imagine the poor children!
** Presumably the adults aren't so cruel as to force the children to stay awake the entire time just because they need to. What's more, anyone who has nothing to do with the flying or maintaining the fleet, that being everyone not important enough to be a character in the show, are probably a bit more rested than the main cast.
*** Given Cally's reaction in the miniseries, jumps seem to cause an unpleasant sensation. It is possible that someone simply ''can't'' sleep through a jump.
* GeniusBonus: The Cylon-Human negotiation station that opens the miniseries is very similar to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Security_Area Korean Joint Security Area]].
* HilariousInHindsight: President Roslin's adorably naive aide Billy had [[DroppedABridgeOnHim a bridge dropped on him]] because the actor who played him decided to leave the show to pursue a role on a more mainstream show. A year and a half later, said show never even made it past the pilot stage, and the character who replaced Billy becomes a Cylon central to the show's mythology... Go figure. She's also the only female Cylon of the "Watchtower Four", which means that she's the one who ends up bedding Baltar...what would have happened if Billy had still been around?
** Of all the characters who could have had the chance to be a lawyer for a day, it just had to be the one named [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo]]. Doubly funny now that another [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies installment of the Ace Attorney series has come out,]] and the last two murders are set in a space center...and the defendant's name is ''Starbuck''
* HoYay: [[HoYay/BattlestarGalactica Has its own page]]
* InferredHolocaust: [[spoiler: "Daybreak Part Two". Despite their stated intention to create an agrarian society, it would take another 140,000 years for humanity to do so and coupled with Hera apparently dying young, it's very likely they failed to survive for long in the Middle Paleolithic]].
** [[spoiler: To clarify, since they abandoned all technology and set the stage for a rudimentary civilisation 150,000 years ago, something ''bad'' must have happened shortly afterwards, as humanity only shifted to an agricultural society around 10,000 years ago. Considering that archaeologists discovering the skeleton of Hera say she died young, yeah...]]
** Ronald D. Moore invoked this in the behind the scenes for "Kobol's Last Gleaming", about the paradox of the Twelve Colonies being clearly space-faring enough to leave Kobol and thus having access to information technology, yet having scant few records that everything about that period is ShroudedInMyth? His speculation was that similar to the fall of the Roman Empire, the Twelve Colonies suffered a prolonged Dark Age where the information was either accidentally or deliberately lost.
* JerkassWoobie:
** While usually sympathetic and a protagonist, Kara Thrace can be an absolute asshole. Her ability to be a [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdini]] rivals Baltar's at times.
** Colonel Tigh also qualifies - he's an already stern leader who tends to become increasingly extreme under the influence of his slightly more, well, ''ambitious'' wife. Between his drinking problems and all the things that happen to him in the last two seasons, it's hard not to feel sorry for him from time to time. ''Heavy'' emphasis on the JerkAss-part during [[spoiler: the New Caprica-arc]].
** Sometimes Baltar, though this effect wears off as the series goes on.
** Helena Cain fits the "simultaneously want to punch her and feel really sorry for her" part, at least. She witnessed the genocide of her entire species and then found out that [[HoneyTrap her girlfriend was an artificial construct created by the genocidal robots who were responsible]]. She was [[RevengeBeforeReason about to sacrifice what, as far she knew, was the last surviving human community in the entire universe in a pointless, essentially impotent gesture of revenge]], [[BadBoss killed her own second in command for questioning her tactics]], was a fan of [[ColdBloodedTorture questionably ethical interrogation techniques]], and generally [[AxCrazy appeared to be a few cards short of a full deck]], but under the circumstances, [[FreudianExcuse it's sort of understandable]]. Particularly, [[RapeAsDrama what she all but says she wants the interrogators to do to Gina]] takes on new dimensions when you consider how she probably felt about finding out that she'd been (presumably) [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes unknowingly]] sleeping with somebody who was willingly aiding in the attempted and nearly successful genocide of her entire species (not to mention the {{Squick}} factor of her having every reason to think that Gina is closer to a robot that happens to be made out of flesh than what we'd consider human).
** Eventually, [[spoiler: Felix Gaeta.]]
* MagnificentBastard:
** Quite a few but Gaius Baltar takes home the gold. Cavil gets the silver, D'Anna Biers gets the bronze.
** Arguably Ron Moore for creating a kick-ass story arc that plays on human emotions like a piano (though due to self-admitted [[AssPull asspulls]] in tying up the series, your opinion may change by the last episode).
** Leoben frakkin' Conoy.
** Don't forget Ellen Tigh, or rather, [[LadyMacbeth Lady MacTigh]]!
** Romo Lampkin.
* MoralEventHorizon:
** [[spoiler: Tom Zarek crosses the horizon when he orders the Quorum killed.]]
** "John" pretty much ''lives'' on the far side of said horizon. [[spoiler: John recently got one more hit with The Plan, where he kills a young boy he'd been "befriending" up until then, all because he found friends to be too dangerous. The careless way he tosses the body aside just adds to the squicky bad-ness.]]
** [[spoiler: While she should have crossed it when she tried to kill Hera, Boomer finally joins Zarek on the other side when, after emotionally manipulating Tyrol into freeing her, she brutalizes Athena, has sex with an unknowing Helo, then kidnaps their daughter and uses her as a hostage as she knowingly risks destroying Galactica in her escape attempt.]]
** Admiral Cain is clearly straddling the moral event horizon from the moment she first appears onscreen, but she crosses it fully when she [[spoiler: orders Athena, who is pregnant at the time, to be ''raped'' in order to get information about the resurrection ships out of her.]]\\
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Chronologically speaking, she crosses it in flashback in ''Razor'' when she [[spoiler:executes her XO for insubordination when's merely trying to talk her out of diving into a suicide mission. What's more, by this point we already know that she's ordered Gina raped as well--what's uncovered over the course of ''Razor'' is that Gina was the love of her life and she ordered her raped out of pure ''[[WomanScorned seething spite]]'']].
* MST3KMantra: In the commentary to ''Razor'', the showrunners admit that they have no idea how Kara and Lee could know that Kendra Shaw might [[spoiler: think she deserved to die]], since she never confides in anyone about her part in the massacre of the civilians' families. (In an earlier draft, she told Starbuck.) "It's television! Don't worry about it!
* NightmareFuel: Has [[NightmareFuel/BattlestarGalactica2004 its own page]].
* OneSceneWonder: The Tattooed Pilot, Romo Lampkin.
** Technically, isn't Romo more like a 2 1/8ths scene wonder?
** The Tattooed Pilot might only have one line, but he appears in several scenes, starting in the Miniseries.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: Though the budget was high and the visual effects generally very good, the Centurions never, ever look convincing.
* {{Squick}}:
** Ellen has (hate)sex with a Cavil in "Precipice". Gross enough. The squick ''really'' sets in in "No Exit", when we learn [[spoiler: that Ellen created Cavil in her father's image, and considered him as a son, making this all kinds of incestuous.]] Unlike Ellen, Cavil knew all along.
** Boomer/Cavil. Cavil/anyone is kinda Squicky, be it middle-aged cougars or hot young chicks.
** [[spoiler: The audience heard about the Cylons moving seemingly human corpses on the Twelve Colonies into massive incinerators after the attack. When we see it in The Plan, the physical image will be guaranteed to give you NightmareFuel, at the absolute least.]] The worst part? [[spoiler:"Corpses" do not cry out for help en mass once it appears that the Cylons around them are dead]].
** While filming ''[[TheMovie The Plan]]'' [[DirectedByCastMember actor-turned-director]] Edward James Olmos decided to test the limits of the term "unrated DVD" by engineering an all nude scene in ''Galactica'''s unisex head and covertly trying to get a shot of an actor's penis. And it worked.
* [[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel Surprisingly Improved Reboot]]: Took the solid concept of the original series and ran with it, removing the cheesy elements and a strong emphasis on character development. It was a major critical and commercial success.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: What several fans of the original think of this version, especially when a [[GenderFlip certain gender fact about Starbuck and Boomer]] first came to light. Being a show full of ongoing mysteries and major plot upheavals (some of them overt and flashy, some of them small but significant twists, some of them constituting games of Chicken with hype and fan expectation), the new version leaves itself frequently vulnerable to this criticism.
* TooDumbToLive: It is really no surprise that that the settlers on the new Earth [[InferredHolocaust appear to have died off quickly]]. One of the first things that they observed about the planet was its incredible diversity of life. [[FridgeBrilliance Logically]], that would include microorganisms to which they would have no natural immunity. Their attempt to assume a [[SpaceAmish non-technological lifestyle]], including destroying their medical technology, on an essentially alien planet was an open invitation to ThePlague. Especially since most of them had lived their lives on planets with advanced technological infrastructure, or on spaceships with controlled environments. Their immune systems would not have been up to the challenge of withstanding the vast array of bacteria and viruses a planet like Earth would host.
* TheUntwist: [[spoiler: In the very first episode, "33", Caprica!Six announces that God is in control of events, and that he has a plan. Many theories were put forward by fans to explain the significance of this, nearly all of them strictly rationalist theories predicated on her lying to manipulate Baltar. Nope! It turned out to be the literal truth, as revealed in the show's closing scenes. Cue the sound of the [[BrokenBase base breaking]].]]
* TheWoobie: Many characters but especially Lee Adama and Kara Thrace who never get to be together although she's reincarnated as a pigeon so they get to be together in a way.
** Felix is a woobie for the entire series. He's very rudely disillusioned by his then-hero, Baltar, by the latter's actions on New Caprica. He's the fleet navigator yet never even gets an official military promotion, unless you count the time when [[spoiler: Zarek]] promotes him [[spoiler: during the mutiny]], which may or may not have been official or legal. It's clear from his interview in D'Anna's documentary film that he dislikes his job and finds it very difficult to de-stress, and is something of an odd man out among his colleagues. In season 3, after [[spoiler:the fleet returns to Galatica, he is beaten and then almost executed by The Circle for being a collaborator, and is hated throughout the fleet until Chief clears his name]]. Outside of the webisodes he never had any romantic relationships or love interests. And in the webisodes, [[spoiler: his lover on New Caprica betrays him, making him think that she's getting prisoners released when in reality she's killing most of them]]. [[spoiler: The loss of his leg]] could have been prevented; plus, no one faces any consequences for what happened to Felix. After [[spoiler: he loses his leg]], he doesn't even get many visitors while in sick bay. Later on,[[spoiler: Dualla, who had been his friend, commits suicide right after talking to him]].
*** [[spoiler: A few points? In the final minutes of the episode, they brought Felix right back to when he was singing in sickbay. For all the blood on his hands, his execution is still Adama [[BreakTheCutie breaking the cutie.]]]]
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* NightmareFuel: Has [[NightmareFuel/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined its own page]].

** While being a commercial success is true, their are many who would argue on the term "improved", hence why this is in the YMMV page.

* BrokenBase: Immediately cropped up when SyFy announced that, ''in addition to Series/{{Caprica}}'', they were planning to launch a new show focused on Adama's young days as a Viper pilot. Cue half the fanbase saying "finally, no more frakking teenage angst!" and the other half saying "so they're substituting the ideas and complex storylines of ''Caprica'' for a show with explosions?" It doesn't help that SyFy is specifically pushed the action element as an alternative to ''Caprica''. Not that mattered, since [[Vaporware the show never materialized]].

*** WordOfGod is that the spines weren't meant to be literal and were just a clue for the audience. Plus, keeping them would have made it silly after a while that this obvious physical difference didn't lead to anyone being discovered as a Cylon.

*** It also doesn't help that several scenes in earlier episodes that would have made the events make more sense were deleted, and the whole thing was meant to lead into a storyline (which Baltar's mysterious whisper to Gaeta was also supposed to tie into) that ended up getting thrown out.

* BrokenBase: Immediately cropped up when SyFy announced that, ''in addition to {{Caprica}}'', they were planning to launch a new show focused on Adama's young days as a Viper pilot. Cue half the fanbase saying "finally, no more frakking teenage angst!" and the other half saying "so they're substituting the ideas and complex storylines of ''{{Caprica}}'' for a show with explosions?" It doesn't help that SyFy is specifically pushed the action element as an alternative to ''{{Caprica}}''. Not that mattered, since [[Vaporware the show never materialized]].

* HateDumb: It's died down more recently, but when this show came out the fans of the old show, and the fans of the new show, were bitter enemies for the most part, and there were lots of FanHaters on both sides. By the end of the first season this had clearly become a case of ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch, as fans of the old show would base long rants bashing the new series on a one or two paragraph synopsis of the events that the one person on the entire board who'd actually watched the episode had written. Among other things they complained that Starbuck shouldn't have been able to make a jump back to the Colonies after an entire season had been spent moving away from them (the episode made it clear that she did it with a Cylon Jump Drive, which had a much greater range than the Colonial Jump Drives), that Baltar should have been recognized as crazy because of his tendency to masturbate in public (in actuality Starbuck walked in on him, once, in the privacy of his lab, and never told anyone), and generally comparing the show to porn based on typically a single, typically brief, sex scene.

** Phelan, the ex-military mercenary turned crime lord from season 2’s ''[[Recap/BattlestarGalacticaReimaginedS02E14BlackMarket Black Market]],'' runs the titular market and garrotes anyone who threatens his supremacy. When Apollo investigates the death of one of Phelan's competitors, the man pays him a visit, abducting the HookerWithAHeartOfGold Apollo had been seeing regularly and taking her daughter, warning Apollo that "I hear any more talk about Fisk I'm gonna send your whore back to you piece by piece, and then I'm gonna start on the little girl." As if that's not enough, in his headquarters he keeps a bunch of children locked in a cell. When Apollo confronts him and asks about that, he claims that some people are "demanding". When Apollo demands the kid back, Phelan replies, "Sorry, the little girl's been paid for. No refunds."

** Phelan, the ex-military mercenary turned crime lord from season 2’s ''[[Recap/BattlestarGalacticaReimaginedS02E14BlackMarket Black Market]],'' counts too. He runs the titular market and garrotes anyone who threatens his supremacy. When Apollo investigates the death of one of Phelan's competitors, the man pays him a visit, abducting the HookerWithAHeartOfGold Apollo had been seeing regularly and taking her daughter, warning Apollo that "I hear any more talk about Fisk I'm gonna send your whore back to you piece by piece, and then I'm gonna start on the little girl." As if that's not enough, in his headquarters he keeps a bunch of children locked in a cell. When Apollo confronts him and asks about that, he claims that some people are "demanding". When Apollo demands the kid back, Phelan replies, "Sorry, the little girl's been paid for. No refunds."

** Phelan, the ex-military mercenary turned crime lord from season 2’s "[[Recap/BattlestarGalacticaReimaginedS02E14BlackMarket Black Market]]", counts too. He runs the titular market and garrotes anyone who threatens his supremacy. When Apollo investigates the death of one of Phelan's competitors, the man pays him a visit, abducting the HookerWithAHeartOfGold Apollo had been seeing regularly and taking her daughter, warning Apollo that "I hear any more talk about Fisk I'm gonna send your whore back to you piece by piece, and then I'm gonna start on the little girl." As if that's not enough, in his headquarters he keeps a bunch of children locked in a cell. When Apollo confronts him and asks about that, he claims that some people are "demanding". When Apollo demands the kid back, Phelan replies, "Sorry, the little girl's been paid for. No refunds."

** (John) Cavil aka Number One is the de facto leader of the Cylons [[PsychoPrototype and the first model of the Significant Eight]] made by the Final Five, the progenitors of the race. He proves to be a hateful being angered by his creators' decision to give him a human body. He [[CainAndAbel kills his brother Daniel]] out of jealousy, wiping out the line. He wipes the minds of his five parents and reprograms his siblings to forget about them. Then he puts the Final Five on human worlds to witness the genocide he initiates against the Twelve Colonies and hunts down the surviving humans to spite them and to make them realize they should love him as the "prince of the universe" he fancies himself as. Despite professing to want revenge for the humans' enslavement of the Centurions, he [[{{Hypocrite}} promptly does]] [[RobotsEnslavingRobots the same thing]]. He uses a ScarpiaUltimatum to rape his mother and tortures and mutilates his father. During his time in the human fleet Cavil also murdered a young orphan boy just because they were becoming friends, and at the end of the series tries to dissect little Hera Agathon to uncover the secret to Cylon procreation. He permanently boxes the Threes over the other Cylons' objections. When half of his brethren break with him over his enslavement of the Centurions and Raiders, he promptly wipes out the Sixes, Twos, and Eights, leaving only a handful alive. While John claims he wants to be a robot more than anything, he wilfully succumbs to the lowest human instincts he so hates: vengeance, lust, and sadism.
** Phelan, the ex-military mercenary turned crime lord from "Black Market", counts too. He runs the titular market and garrotes anyone who threatens his supremacy. When Apollo investigates the death of one of Phelan's competitors, the man pays him a visit, abducting the HookerWithAHeartOfGold Apollo had been seeing regularly and taking her daughter, warning Apollo that "I hear any more talk about Fisk I'm gonna send your whore back to you piece by piece, and then I'm gonna start on the little girl." As if that's not enough, in his headquarters he keeps a bunch of children locked in a cell. When Apollo confronts him and asks about that, he claims that some people are "demanding". When Apollo demands the kid back, Phelan replies, "Sorry, the little girl's been paid for. No refunds."

** In the miniseries, Billy says that the Astral Queen has 500 prisoners "in its cargo hold." In "Bastille Day," we find that there are 1500 prisoners and it is a prison ship. Considering how much information Billy was trying to process regarding how many people were left and what ships had arrived, he likely got a few details wrong or confused.

* BrokenBase: As if the controversial ending and the reception for ''{{Caprica}}'' wasn't enough, there's the new announcement that, ''in addition to {{Caprica}}'', SyFy is planning to launch a new show focused on Adama's young days as a Viper pilot. Cue half the fanbase saying "finally, no more frakking teenage angst!" and the other half saying "so they're substituting the ideas and complex storylines of ''{{Caprica}}'' for a show with explosions?" It doesn't help that SyFy is specifically pushing the action element as an alternative to ''{{Caprica}}''.
** Less likely now that Syfy isn't going ahead with it.

** Ronald D. Moore invoked this in the behind the scenes for "Kobol's Last Gleaming", about the paradox of the Twelve Colonies being clearly space-faring enough to leave Kobol and thus having access to information technology, yet having scant few records that everything about that period is ShroudedInMyth? His speculation was that after the exodus, either the information was deliberately destroyed or that similar to the fall of the Roman Empire, the Twelve Colonies suffered a prolonged Dark Age where the information was lost.

** Of all the characters who could have had the chance to be a lawyer for a day, it just had to be the one named [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo]]. Doubly funny now that another [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies installment of the Ace Attorney series has come out,]] and the last two murders are set in a space center.

** Felix Gaeta.

** A more serious example of this would be Leoben Conoy. While he is certainly a MagnificentBastard, has genuine (Albeit twisted) love for Starbuck and can even be [[AffablyEvil pleasant company]] and is played by the incredibly charismatic Callum Keith Rennie in a terrific performance, many fans ship him with Starbuck as though it were a storybook romance, ignoring little things like him keeping her locked up for months, kidnapping a child and trying to force her into motherhood and her stabbing him to death every night, only for him to download again the next day (which is straight out of a horror movie). It probably doesn't help that Creator/KateeSackhoff herself said she supports the relationship.

* DarknessInduceAudienceApathy: The show skirted this line throughout its run, coming closer to the edge with each successive season. However, given its continued popularity, it's clear widespread apathy never took hold with the core audience.

** Brother Cavil. Made worse by the fact that he was introduced as an AffablyEvil, DeadpanSnarker type. That was before we find out that he's the mastermind behind the human genocide, as well as a majority of the other bad things on the show. All because he was unhappy with the body that he was made in. We later find out that [[spoiler:Cavil murdered a young orphan boy just because they were becoming friends]]. If you forget the genocide, [[spoiler: using a ScarpiaUltimatum to rape his own mother after having his father tortured and mutilated]] probably would qualify him for this page on its own.
** Helena Cain is a [[GeneralRipper ruthless Admiral]] dedicated to wiping out [[FantasticRacism the Cylons]] [[KnightTemplar at all costs]]. She cannibalizes a refugee fleet for parts (including their FTL drives) and leaves them at the mercy of the Cylons (and we know [[LeaveNoSurvivors how the Cylons deal with civilians]]). While doing that, she conscripts any able-bodied man in the fleet, shooting their families if they refuse to join her. Then she comes to the Galactica fleet and decides to take the fight to the Cylons, despite none of the other ships except Galactica being combat-capable. She also shot her Executive Officer in the head when he refused to order what looked like a suicide mission, right in front of the crew. Admiral Cain's standard procedure for interrogating female Cylon prisoners: violent rape, by [[TortureTechnician the official Cylon Interrogator]], as well as any crew member who feels like it.

** One wonders if the writers had any idea what they were saying when thy tell us that [[spoiler:the "fossilized remains of a young woman" were found: that Hera, for whom so much had been sacrificed, probably only lived long enough to have a couple of children, and quite possibly died in childbirth.]]