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* {{Anvilicious}}: Both the pollution message and Katara's desire to help people aren't exactly handled with much in the way of subtlety but instead dialed way higher, particularly the latter. Which is unusual for Avatar.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sokka's schedule is brought front and centre in this episode. He stresses how important it is that they make it to the invasion on time, and that schedule would have added an element of overarching tension in an otherwise episodic season. What if, thanks to Katara's actions, they miss the invasion or barely make it? How fast can Appa take them? Can the Gaang really stop to practise their bending and help someone in need? What if a Fire Nation soldier spots them and they waste crucial time trying to stop him? Alas, it is never brought again in subsequent episodes -- in fact, they arrive at the rendezvous point ''four days ahead of schedule''.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sokka's schedule is brought front and centre in this episode. He stresses how important it is that they make it to the invasion on time, and that schedule would have added an element of overarching tension in an otherwise episodic season. What if, thanks to Katara's actions, they miss the invasion or barely make it? How fast can Appa take them? Can the Gaang really stop to practise practice their bending and help someone in need? What if a Fire Nation soldier spots them and they waste crucial time trying to stop him? Alas, it is never brought again in subsequent episodes -- in fact, they arrive at the rendezvous point ''four days ahead of schedule''.
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** The conceit of the episode -- Katara essentially sabotaging the schedule for the invasion against the will of her friends [[ChronicHeroSyndrome to help an extremely impoverished river town]] -- has been pretty divisive among fans. Some say it makes Katara look UnintentionallyUnsympathetic with pretty massively SkewedPriorities, while others argue it greatly expands her caring and heroic nature.

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** The conceit of the episode -- Katara essentially sabotaging the schedule for the invasion against the will of her friends [[ChronicHeroSyndrome to help an extremely impoverished river town]] -- has been pretty divisive among fans. Some say it makes Katara look UnintentionallyUnsympathetic with pretty massively SkewedPriorities, while others argue it greatly expands her caring and heroic nature. Others also point out that given the final outcome, Sokka was likely going overboard.

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this, constantly enforcing her {{All Loving Hero}}ine status.

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While it makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this, constantly enforcing her {{All Loving Hero}}ine status.
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this, constantly enforcing her AllLovingHeroine status.

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this, constantly enforcing her AllLovingHeroine {{All Loving Hero}}ine status.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sokka's schedule is brought front and centre in this episode. He stresses how important it is that they make it to the invasion on time, and that schedule would have added an element of overarching tension in an otherwise episodic season. What if, thanks to Katara's actions, they miss the invasion or barely make it? How fast can Appa take them? Can the Gaang really stop to practise their bending and help someone in need? What if a Fire Nation soldier spots them and they waste crucial time trying to stop him? Alas, it is never brought again in subsequent episodes -- in fact, they arrive at the rendezvous point ''four days ahead of schedule''.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sokka's schedule is brought front and centre in this episode. He stresses how important it is that they make it to the invasion on time, and that schedule would have added an element of overarching tension in an otherwise episodic season. What if, thanks to Katara's actions, they miss the invasion or barely make it? How fast can Appa take them? Can the Gaang really stop to practise their bending and help someone in need? What if a Fire Nation soldier spots them and they waste crucial time trying to stop him? Alas, it is never brought again in subsequent episodes -- in fact, they arrive at the rendezvous point ''four days ahead of schedule''.schedule''.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sokka's schedule is brought front and centre in this episode. He stresses how important it is that they make it to the invasion on time, and that would have added an element of overarching conflict in an otherwise episodic season. How fast can they travel on Appa? Can they really stop to practise their bending and help someone in need? What if a Fire Nation soldier spots them and they waste crucial time trying to stop him? Alas, it is never brought again in subsequent episodes -- in fact, they arrive at the rendezvous point ''four days ahead of schedule''.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sokka's schedule is brought front and centre in this episode. He stresses how important it is that they make it to the invasion on time, and that schedule would have added an element of overarching conflict tension in an otherwise episodic season. What if, thanks to Katara's actions, they miss the invasion or barely make it? How fast can they travel on Appa? Appa take them? Can they the Gaang really stop to practise their bending and help someone in need? What if a Fire Nation soldier spots them and they waste crucial time trying to stop him? Alas, it is never brought again in subsequent episodes -- in fact, they arrive at the rendezvous point ''four days ahead of schedule''.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sokka's schedule is brought front and centre in this episode. He stresses how important it is that they make it to the invasion on time, and that would have added an element of overarching conflict in an otherwise episodic season. How fast can they travel on Appa? Can they really stop to practise their bending and help someone? Alas, it is never brought again in subsequent episodes -- in fact, they arrive at the rendezvous point ''four days ahead of schedule''.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sokka's schedule is brought front and centre in this episode. He stresses how important it is that they make it to the invasion on time, and that would have added an element of overarching conflict in an otherwise episodic season. How fast can they travel on Appa? Can they really stop to practise their bending and help someone? someone in need? What if a Fire Nation soldier spots them and they waste crucial time trying to stop him? Alas, it is never brought again in subsequent episodes -- in fact, they arrive at the rendezvous point ''four days ahead of schedule''.
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** Additionally, when the townspeople turn on Katara for impersonating their local hero and for being a waterbender, Sokka (who has been complaining about deviating from the schedule the entire time) defends her and tells them to be grateful for what she's done.

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** Additionally, when the townspeople turn on Katara for impersonating their local hero and for being a waterbender, Sokka (who has been complaining about deviating from the schedule the entire time) defends her and tells them to be grateful for what she's done.done.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sokka's schedule is brought front and centre in this episode. He stresses how important it is that they make it to the invasion on time, and that would have added an element of overarching conflict in an otherwise episodic season. How fast can they travel on Appa? Can they really stop to practise their bending and help someone? Alas, it is never brought again in subsequent episodes -- in fact, they arrive at the rendezvous point ''four days ahead of schedule''.
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There's nothing to suggest they're fire nation subjects, there's no FN branding, nothing. The don't even show off any powers. The general seems to leave them alone because they're not worth the time evicting. And besides, the tree tops episiode in B1 with an actual fire nation village at peril shows this off much better.


* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are Fire Nation subjects--the very nation Katara hates bitterly for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are Fire Nation subjects--the very nation Katara hates bitterly for killing this, constantly enforcing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.AllLovingHeroine status.
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are Fire Nation subjects--the very nation Katara hates bitterly for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are Fire Nation subjects--the very nation Katara hates bitterly for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.AllLovingHeroine.
** Additionally, when the townspeople turn on Katara for impersonating their local hero and for being a waterbender, Sokka (who has been complaining about deviating from the schedule the entire time) defends her and tells them to be grateful for what she's done.
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are ''Fire Nation'' subjects--the very nation Katara ''hates bitterly'' for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are ''Fire Nation'' Fire Nation subjects--the very nation Katara ''hates bitterly'' hates bitterly for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.
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* HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per below, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are ''Fire Nation'' subjects--the very nation Katara ''hates bitterly'' for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.

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* HeartwarmingMoments: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per below, above, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are ''Fire Nation'' subjects--the very nation Katara ''hates bitterly'' for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.

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* HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per below, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are ''Fire Nation'' subjects--the very nation Katara ''hates bitterly'' for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The audience is meant to side with Katara when she decides to help the villagers against the will of her friends but it's hard to do so when [[SkewedPriorities she sabotages the mission to be on time for the invasion]] by making Appa look sick and ignores Sokka [[StrawmanHasAPoint rightfully pointing out]] that they'll have all the time to help the town after taking out the Fire Lord.
** Although considering that the river is the town's livelihood, and it's horrifically polluted, Katara might have a point in that there might not be a town to come back to should the team have dealt with Ozai first.

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** The conceit of the episode -- Katara essentially sabotaging the schedule for the invasion against the will of her friends [[ChronicHeroSyndrome to help an extremely impoverished river town]] -- has been pretty divisive among fans. Some say it makes Katara look UnintentionallyUnsympathetic with pretty massively SkewedPriorities, while others argue it greatly expands her caring and heroic nature.
** Related to that, there's a further discussion as to whether [[StrawmanHasAPoint Sokka was right to assert that they could've come back to help the town after taking out the Fire Lord]], or given the already-horrifically polluted state of the town, they had intervened at the best time possible.
* HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per below, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are ''Fire Nation'' subjects--the very nation Katara ''hates bitterly'' for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The audience is meant to side with Katara when she decides to help the villagers against the will of her friends but it's hard to do so when [[SkewedPriorities she sabotages the mission to be on time for the invasion]] by making Appa look sick and ignores Sokka [[StrawmanHasAPoint rightfully pointing out]] that they'll have all the time to help the town after taking out the Fire Lord.
** Although considering that the river is the town's livelihood, and it's horrifically polluted, Katara might have a point in that there might not be a town to come back to should the team have dealt with Ozai first.
AllLovingHeroine.
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* HeartwarmingMoments: While it arguably makes Katara look stupid, as per below, there's no gainsaying that her championing of the downtrodden peasants is this. It would have been in any case, but what makes it especially much so is that these are ''Fire Nation'' subjects--the very nation Katara ''hates bitterly'' for killing her mother and more or less exterminating her entire people. That she can still feel such compassion for them makes her almost an AllLovingHeroine.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The audience is meant to side with Katara when she decides to help the villagers against the will of her friends but it's hard to do so when [[SkewedPriorities she sabotages the mission to be on time for the invasion]] by making Appa look sick and ignores Sokka [[StrawmanHasAPoint rightfully pointing out]] that they'll have all the time to help the town after taking out the Fire Lord.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The audience is meant to side with Katara when she decides to help the villagers against the will of her friends but it's hard to do so when [[SkewedPriorities she sabotages the mission to be on time for the invasion]] by making Appa look sick and ignores Sokka [[StrawmanHasAPoint rightfully pointing out]] that they'll have all the time to help the town after taking out the Fire Lord.Lord.
** Although considering that the river is the town's livelihood, and it's horrifically polluted, Katara might have a point in that there might not be a town to come back to should the team have dealt with Ozai first.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The audience is meant to side with Katara when she decides to help the villagers against the will of her friends but it's hard to do so when [[SkewedPriorities she sabbotages the mission to be on time for the invasion]] by making Appa look sick and ignores Sokka [[StrawmanHasAPoint rightfully pointing out]] that they'll have all the time to help the town after taking out the Fire Lord.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The audience is meant to side with Katara when she decides to help the villagers against the will of her friends but it's hard to do so when [[SkewedPriorities she sabbotages sabotages the mission to be on time for the invasion]] by making Appa look sick and ignores Sokka [[StrawmanHasAPoint rightfully pointing out]] that they'll have all the time to help the town after taking out the Fire Lord.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The audience is meant to side with Katara when she decides to help the villagers against the will of her friends but it's hard to do so when [[SkewedPriorities she sabbotages the mission to be on time for the invasion]] by making Appa look sick and ignores Sokka [[StrawmanHasAPoint rightfully pointing out]] that they'll have all the time to help the town after taking out the Fire Lord.

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