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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It may be hard as it is to get invested given the ForegoneConclusion, but this trope comes into play due the fact that the story is ''extremely bleak'' and none of the characters come out clean including characters like Siahm who have the best intentions, but end up make things so much worse for everyone else.
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* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff and reaching YouNoTakeCandle territory, which ruins any epic or sad moment. The final volume managed to avert this.
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* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff and reaching YouNoTakeCandle territory, which ruins any epic or sad moment. The final volume managed to avert this.this.
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: It may be hard as it is to get invested given the ForegoneConclusion, but this trope comes into play due the fact that the story is ''extremely bleak'' and none of the characters come out clean including characters like Siahm who have the best intentions, but end up make things so much worse for everyone else.
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: It may be hard as it is to get invested given the ForegoneConclusion, but this trope comes into play due the fact that the story is ''extremely bleak'' and none of the characters come out clean including characters like Siahm who have the best intentions, but end up make things so much worse for everyone else.
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* AwesomeArt: Even though this story may not be for everyone to enjoy, the artwork made by Sebastian Garnier is simply phenomenal.
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* AwesomeArt: SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Even though this story may not be for everyone to enjoy, the artwork made by Sebastian Garnier is simply phenomenal.
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* MomentOfAwesome:
** When the Cauldron of Blood turns the battle in Arawn's favor by unleashing an army of fiery Cauldron-born. And '''its epic!!'''
** Owen being the one to [[spoiler:''destroy the Cauldron''.]]
** When the Cauldron of Blood turns the battle in Arawn's favor by unleashing an army of fiery Cauldron-born. And '''its epic!!'''
** Owen being the one to [[spoiler:''destroy the Cauldron''.]]
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** [[spoiler:Engus in his "divine" form also qualifies, despite him being a abhorrent bastard]].
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** [[spoiler:Engus in his "divine" form also qualifies, despite him being a an abhorrent bastard]].
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* MagnificentBastard: The Cauldron of Blood turns all side against the middle and themselves, seducing Arawn and his brothers with ultimate power and godhood, only to betray them when its convenient. But what really makes him qualify is that despite his blatantly treasonous nature, nobody so far figured out he is the real threat or done anything to stop him, as he plays everyone like a fiddle. [[spoiler:With that said, the moment someone (Owen) realizes the danger he represents and decides to do something about it, the Cauldron's demise was imminent.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[TheHedonist Engus]], only blood brother of Arawn, eventually proves himself to be [[CainAndAbel the worst of the four brothers]]. Already a conniving sadist who mocks his half-brother Math over his heritage and takes over the kingdom of the East by dishonorably assassinating its king and its consorts, Engus becomes [[TheCaligula a pedophilic despot and hedonist who leads non-stop orgies in his castle and brutalizes his subordinates]]. Engus is eventually tricked into seemingly dying at the hands of his other half-brother Kern upon being plunged into the Cauldron--but upon absorbing the Cauldron's power, Engus becomes a [[PhysicalGod living god]] who murders his brother and has his entire kingdom massacred. Drunk on power, Engus leads his armies to devastate all in their wake and [[HumanSacrifice sacrifice thousands of innocents]] to the Cauldron of Blood--regardless of age--even murdering his own blood brother and parading his body around as a depraved trophy.
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* {{Anticlimax}}:
** [[spoiler:Math is built up as Arawn's ArchEnemy, having played a huge hand in the bed events that turned his brother in the Death-Lord he is now. However, Math dies on Volume 5 in the most pathetic way possible: a broken shell of his former self on his throne, struck down by his own mother rather than Arawn]].
** [[spoiler:Engus]] after becoming a god and leading a destructive campaign of conquest upon the land. He goes down without a fight or any epic confrontation, being merely confronted in his room, dragged before his army and decapitated without ceremony.
** [[spoiler:Math is built up as Arawn's ArchEnemy, having played a huge hand in the bed events that turned his brother in the Death-Lord he is now. However, Math dies on Volume 5 in the most pathetic way possible: a broken shell of his former self on his throne, struck down by his own mother rather than Arawn]].
** [[spoiler:Engus]] after becoming a god and leading a destructive campaign of conquest upon the land. He goes down without a fight or any epic confrontation, being merely confronted in his room, dragged before his army and decapitated without ceremony.
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** Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least.
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** Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least. However, as impressive as his power and ScaryImpracticalArmor is, he's actually a StoicWoobie.
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* EvilIsCool: Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least. [[spoiler:Engus in his "divine" form also qualifies, despite him being a abhorrent bastard]].
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* EvilIsCool: EvilIsCool:
** Arawn, in his DarkLord form atleast. least.
** [[spoiler:Engus in his "divine" form also qualifies, despite him being a abhorrent bastard]].
** Arawn, in his DarkLord form at
** [[spoiler:Engus in his "divine" form also qualifies, despite him being a abhorrent bastard]].
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* MagnificentBastard: The Cauldron of Blood turns all side against the middle and themselves, seducing Arawn and his brothers with ultimate power and godhood, only to betray them when its convenient. But what really makes him qualify is that despite his blatantly treasonous nature, nobody so far figured out he is the real threat or done anything to stop him, as he plays everyone like a fiddle.
* MomentOfAwesome: When the Cauldron of Blood turns the battle in Arawn's favor by unleashing an army of fiery Cauldron-born. And '''its epic!!'''
* MomentOfAwesome: When the Cauldron of Blood turns the battle in Arawn's favor by unleashing an army of fiery Cauldron-born. And '''its epic!!'''
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* MagnificentBastard: The Cauldron of Blood turns all side against the middle and themselves, seducing Arawn and his brothers with ultimate power and godhood, only to betray them when its convenient. But what really makes him qualify is that despite his blatantly treasonous nature, nobody so far figured out he is the real threat or done anything to stop him, as he plays everyone like a fiddle.
fiddle. [[spoiler:With that said, the moment someone (Owen) realizes the danger he represents and decides to do something about it, the Cauldron's demise was imminent.]]
*MomentOfAwesome: MomentOfAwesome:
** When the Cauldron of Blood turns the battle in Arawn's favor by unleashing an army of fiery Cauldron-born. And '''itsepic!!'''epic!!'''
** Owen being the one to [[spoiler:''destroy the Cauldron''.]]
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** When the Cauldron of Blood turns the battle in Arawn's favor by unleashing an army of fiery Cauldron-born. And '''its
** Owen being the one to [[spoiler:''destroy the Cauldron''.]]
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* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff and reaching YouNoTakeCandle territory, which ruins any epic or sad moment.
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* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff and reaching YouNoTakeCandle territory, which ruins any epic or sad moment. The final volume managed to avert this.
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** Its debatable ''where'' Math crossed it, rather than ''if:'' killing Arawn's wolf Sohrja, [[WouldHurtAChild murdering his royal predecessor's children]] to prevent any future rebellions, [[IHaveYourWife kidnapping Arawn's wife and holding her hostage for the Cauldron]], turning her into his SexSlave or [[spoiler:killing her son with Arawn]].
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** Its debatable ''where'' Math crossed it, rather than ''if:'' killing Arawn's wolf Sohrja, [[WouldHurtAChild murdering his own royal predecessor's children]] to prevent any future rebellions, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil raping Deirdre]] in her wedding ceremony, [[IHaveYourWife kidnapping Arawn's wife her and holding her hostage for the Cauldron]], turning her into his SexSlave or [[spoiler:killing her son with Arawn]].Arawn]]. Siahm herself may have crossed it too when she sided with him against Arawn despite the horrible things Math did.
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* {{Anticlimax}}: [[spoiler:Math is built up as Arawn's ArchEnemy, having played a huge hand in the bed events that turned his brother in the Death-Lord he is now. However, Math dies on Volume 5 in the most pathetic way possible: a broken shell of his former self on his throne, struck down by his own mother rather than Arawn]].
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* {{Anticlimax}}: {{Anticlimax}}:
** [[spoiler:Math is built up as Arawn's ArchEnemy, having played a huge hand in the bed events that turned his brother in the Death-Lord he is now. However, Math dies on Volume 5 in the most pathetic way possible: a broken shell of his former self on his throne, struck down by his own mother rather thanArawn]].Arawn]].
** [[spoiler:Engus]] after becoming a god and leading a destructive campaign of conquest upon the land. He goes down without a fight or any epic confrontation, being merely confronted in his room, dragged before his army and decapitated without ceremony.
** [[spoiler:Math is built up as Arawn's ArchEnemy, having played a huge hand in the bed events that turned his brother in the Death-Lord he is now. However, Math dies on Volume 5 in the most pathetic way possible: a broken shell of his former self on his throne, struck down by his own mother rather than
** [[spoiler:Engus]] after becoming a god and leading a destructive campaign of conquest upon the land. He goes down without a fight or any epic confrontation, being merely confronted in his room, dragged before his army and decapitated without ceremony.
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* MagnificentBastard: The Cauldron of Blood turns all side against the middle and themselves, seducing Arawn and his brothers with ultimate power and godhood, only to betray them when its convenient. But what really makes him qualify is that despite his blatantly treasonous nature, nobody so far figured out he is the real threat or done anything to stop him, as he plays everyone like a fiddle.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It may be hard as it is to get invested given the ForegoneConclusion, but this trope comes into play due the fact that the story is ''extremely bleak'' and none of the characters come out clean, including characters like Siahm who have the best intentions, but end up make things so much worse for everyone else.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It may be hard as it is to get invested given the ForegoneConclusion, but this trope comes into play due the fact that the story is ''extremely bleak'' and none of the characters come out clean, clean including characters like Siahm who have the best intentions, but end up make things so much worse for everyone else.else.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Volume 5 ends with Arawn dying in a single duel with [[spoiler: his brother Engus for control of the Cauldron]]. Yeah, right... The [[FramingDevice guy telling the whole story in the comic]] won't stay dead.
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** Its debatable ''where'' Math crossed it, rather than ''if'': killing Arawn's wolf Sohrja, killing a child prince to prevent any future rebellions, kidnapping Arawn's wife and holding her hostage for the Cauldron, turning her into his SexSlave or [[spoiler:killing her son with Arawn]].
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** Its debatable ''where'' Math crossed it, rather than ''if'': ''if:'' killing Arawn's wolf Sohrja, killing a child prince [[WouldHurtAChild murdering his royal predecessor's children]] to prevent any future rebellions, [[IHaveYourWife kidnapping Arawn's wife and holding her hostage for the Cauldron, Cauldron]], turning her into his SexSlave or [[spoiler:killing her son with Arawn]].
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** Deirdre crossed it when [[spoiler:she kills her own son Duncan and cooks his body for his father to eat it]].
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* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff and reaching YouTakeNoCandle territory, which ruins any epic or sad moment.
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** Deirdre crossed it when [[spoiler:she kills her own innocent son Duncan and cooks his body for his father to eat it]].
* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff and reachingYouTakeNoCandle YouNoTakeCandle territory, which ruins any epic or sad moment.
* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff and reaching
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* {{Anticlimax}}: [[spoiler:Math is built up as Arawn's ArchEnemy, responsible for many bad things that happen in his brother's life that play a huge hand in turning him in the Death-Lord he is now. However, Math dies on Volume 5 in the most pathetic way possible: a broken shell of his former self on his throne, struck down by his own mother rather than Arawn]].
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* {{Anticlimax}}: [[spoiler:Math is built up as Arawn's ArchEnemy, responsible for many bad things that happen in his brother's life that play having played a huge hand in turning him the bed events that turned his brother in the Death-Lord he is now. However, Math dies on Volume 5 in the most pathetic way possible: a broken shell of his former self on his throne, struck down by his own mother rather than Arawn]].
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* EvilIsCool: Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least. [[spoiler:Engus in his "divine" form qualifies too, despite him being a abhorrent bastard]].
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* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff and reaching YouTakeNoCandle territory, which ruins any epic or sad moment.
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* {{Anticlimax}}: [[spoiler:Math is built up as Arawn's ArchEnemy, responsible for many bad things that happen in his brother's life that play a huge hand in turning him in the Death-Lord he is now. However, Math dies on Volume 5 in the most pathetic way possible: a broken shell of his former self on his throne, struck down by his own mother rather than Arawn]].
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* EvilIsCool: Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least. [[spoiler:Engus in his "divine" form qualifies too, despite being a abhorrent bastard]].
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* EvilIsCool: Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least. [[spoiler:Engus in his "divine" form qualifies too, despite him being a abhorrent bastard]].
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* MomentOfAwesome: When the Cauldron of Blood turns the battle in Arawn's favor by unleashing an army of fiery Cauldron-born. And '''its epic!!'''
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** Deirdre crossed it when [[spoiler:she kills her own son Duncan and cooks his body for his father to eat it]].
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** Deirdre crossed it when [[spoiler:she kills her own son Duncan and cooks his body for his father to eat it]].it]].
* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff which ruins any epic or sad moment.
* {{Narm}}: The English translations are very ''shoddy'' and some of the dialogue and narration comes across as very stiff which ruins any epic or sad moment.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It may be hard as it is to get invested given the ForegoneConclusion at play, but this trope comes into play due the fact that the story is ''extremely bleak'' and none of the characters come out clean, including characters like Siahm who have the best intentions, but end up make things so much worse for everyone else.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It may be hard as it is to get invested given the ForegoneConclusion at play, ForegoneConclusion, but this trope comes into play due the fact that the story is ''extremely bleak'' and none of the characters come out clean, including characters like Siahm who have the best intentions, but end up make things so much worse for everyone else.
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* EvilIsCool: Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least. [[spoiler:Engus too]].
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* EvilIsCool: Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least. [[spoiler:Engus too]].in his "divine" form qualifies too, despite being a abhorrent bastard]].
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* AwesomeArt: Even though this story may not be for everyone to enjoy, the artwork made by Sebastian Garnier is simply phenomenal.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It may be hard as it is to get invested given the ForegoneConclusion at play, but this trope comes into play due the fact that the story is ''extremely bleak'' and none of the characters come out clean, including characters like Siahm who have the best intentions, but end up make things so much worse for everyone else.
* EvilIsCool: Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least. [[spoiler:Engus too]].
* MoralEventHorizon:
** Its debatable ''where'' Math crossed it, rather than ''if'': killing Arawn's wolf Sohrja, killing a child prince to prevent any future rebellions, kidnapping Arawn's wife and holding her hostage for the Cauldron, turning her into his SexSlave or [[spoiler:killing her son with Arawn]].
** Engus fly over this line when he is revealed to be a degenerated hedonist who performs orgies in his castle and even has ''[[NightmareFuel little girls offered to him]]'' (though thankfully, the reader doesn't see it happen since he is interrupted before anything untoward happen to the poor child, but its clear what his intents were). He becomes so much worse after [[spoiler:absorbing the Cauldron's power and becoming a god, he begins sacrificing innocents by the droves, including children]].
** Deirdre crossed it when [[spoiler:she kills her own son Duncan and cooks his body for his father to eat it]].
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It may be hard as it is to get invested given the ForegoneConclusion at play, but this trope comes into play due the fact that the story is ''extremely bleak'' and none of the characters come out clean, including characters like Siahm who have the best intentions, but end up make things so much worse for everyone else.
* EvilIsCool: Arawn, in his DarkLord form at least. [[spoiler:Engus too]].
* MoralEventHorizon:
** Its debatable ''where'' Math crossed it, rather than ''if'': killing Arawn's wolf Sohrja, killing a child prince to prevent any future rebellions, kidnapping Arawn's wife and holding her hostage for the Cauldron, turning her into his SexSlave or [[spoiler:killing her son with Arawn]].
** Engus fly over this line when he is revealed to be a degenerated hedonist who performs orgies in his castle and even has ''[[NightmareFuel little girls offered to him]]'' (though thankfully, the reader doesn't see it happen since he is interrupted before anything untoward happen to the poor child, but its clear what his intents were). He becomes so much worse after [[spoiler:absorbing the Cauldron's power and becoming a god, he begins sacrificing innocents by the droves, including children]].
** Deirdre crossed it when [[spoiler:she kills her own son Duncan and cooks his body for his father to eat it]].