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** Yuki: StockholmSyndrome victim and helpless {{uke}} that constantly needs to be saved from holding the IdiotBall, or a believably traumatized victim who tries to take the option that involves being there for Jun and not killing, to his own detriment?

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** Yuki: StockholmSyndrome Stockholm Syndrome victim and helpless {{uke}} that constantly needs to be saved from holding the IdiotBall, or a believably traumatized victim who tries to take the option that involves being there for Jun and not killing, to his own detriment?
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** For Wang: [[spoiler: Being one of Yuki's "customers" (a.k.a. a pedophile and rapist) and finding him again at 17, pretending to rescue him from Ashiei, giving him a SadisticChoice that he fails badly, then kidnapping him as his personal "pet" once more...]]
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Rape and sex slavery are common parts of the "criminal underground," that leave a path of trauma and suffering through the lives of those affected.
** Love and respect for others gives one true happiness, not power.
** Seeking power at any cost just leaves everyone dead.
** TheFarmerAndTheViper: When dealing with some people (specifically those who make a life of exploiting others and yourself), offering kindness or mercy can be the worst mistake possible, as they will see it as a weakness.

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** For Wang: [[spoiler: Being one of Yuki's "customers" (a.k.a. a pedophile and rapist) and finding him again at 17, pretending to rescue him from Ashiei, giving him a SadisticChoice that he fails badly, then kidnapping him as his personal "pet" once more...]]
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Rape and sex slavery are common parts of the "criminal underground," that leave a path of trauma and suffering through the lives of those affected.
** Love and respect for others gives one true happiness, not power.
** Seeking power at any cost just leaves everyone dead.
** TheFarmerAndTheViper: When dealing with some people (specifically those who make a life of exploiting others and yourself), offering kindness or mercy can be the worst mistake possible, as they will see it as a weakness.
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* CompleteMonster: ''Manga/AcidTown'' has these two [[WouldHurtAChild pedophile]] rapists:]]

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* CompleteMonster: ''Manga/AcidTown'' has these two [[WouldHurtAChild pedophile]] rapists:]]pedophile rapists]]:
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* CompleteMonster: ''Manga/AcidTown'' has these two [[WouldHurtAChild pedophile]] rapists:

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* CompleteMonster: ''Manga/AcidTown'' has these two [[WouldHurtAChild pedophile]] rapists: rapists:]]
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** Ashiei is a member of the {{Yakuza}}, like many characters in this manga, but what distinguishes him is the fact that he raped his stepson Yuki and sold him into being a SexSlave}} when Yuki was only 12. Years later, he shows up again, stalking his stepson. When a friend of Yuki's tracks him down to confront him, Ashiei brags about his stepson's "talents" as a slave and about raping him. He reveals that he's stalking Yuki out of revenge for [[NeverMyFault being left with burns from a fire that Yuki set to escape him]], because his looks were ruined and he's in pain, [[UngratefulBastard despite the fact that Yuki showed mercy by not killing him.]] When he finds out Yuki is still alive during their confrontation, he gloats about how he wants to rape him again, and tries to do so until Yuki escapes. He was a StalkerWithACrush on Yuki's mother, took the opportunity when her husband died, possibly raped her as well, and was a factor in her [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]. He's unable to work with pretty much any gang other than Wang's triad, because of his behavior that ranges from unstable at best to purely sociopathic. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the other Yakuza reject him]].

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** Ashiei is a member of the {{Yakuza}}, like many characters in this manga, but what distinguishes him is the fact that he raped his stepson Yuki and sold him into being a SexSlave}} SexSlave when Yuki was only 12. Years later, he shows up again, stalking his stepson. When a friend of Yuki's tracks him down to confront him, Ashiei brags about his stepson's "talents" as a slave and about raping him. He reveals that he's stalking Yuki out of revenge for [[NeverMyFault being left with burns from a fire that Yuki set to escape him]], because his looks were ruined and he's in pain, [[UngratefulBastard despite the fact that Yuki showed mercy by not killing him.]] When he finds out Yuki is still alive during their confrontation, he gloats about how he wants to rape him again, and tries to do so until Yuki escapes. He was a StalkerWithACrush on Yuki's mother, took the opportunity when her husband died, possibly raped her as well, and was a factor in her [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]. He's unable to work with pretty much any gang other than Wang's triad, because of his behavior that ranges from unstable at best to purely sociopathic. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the other Yakuza reject him]].
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* CompleteMonster: There are these two [[WouldHurtAChild pedophile]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapists]]:
** Ashiei is a member of the {{Yakuza}}, like many characters in this manga, but what distinguishes him is the fact that he raped his stepson Yuki and sold him into being a {{sex slave}} when Yuki was only 12. Years later, he shows up again, stalking his stepson. When a friend of Yuki's tracks him down to confront him, Ashiei brags about his stepson's "talents" as a slave and about raping him. He reveals that he's stalking Yuki out of revenge for [[NeverMyFault being left with burns from a fire that Yuki set to escape him]], because his looks were ruined and he's in pain, [[UngratefulBastard despite the fact that Yuki showed mercy by not killing him.]] When he finds out Yuki is still alive during their confrontation, he gloats about how he wants to rape him again, and tries to do so until Yuki escapes. He was a StalkerWithACrush on Yuki's mother, took the opportunity when her husband died, possibly raped her as well, and was a factor in her [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]. He's unable to work with pretty much any gang other than Wang's triad, because of his behavior that ranges from unstable at best to purely [[TheSociopath sociopathic]]. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the other Yakuza reject him]].

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* * CompleteMonster: There are ''Manga/AcidTown'' has these two [[WouldHurtAChild pedophile]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapists]]:
rapists:
** Ashiei is a member of the {{Yakuza}}, like many characters in this manga, but what distinguishes him is the fact that he raped his stepson Yuki and sold him into being a {{sex slave}} SexSlave}} when Yuki was only 12. Years later, he shows up again, stalking his stepson. When a friend of Yuki's tracks him down to confront him, Ashiei brags about his stepson's "talents" as a slave and about raping him. He reveals that he's stalking Yuki out of revenge for [[NeverMyFault being left with burns from a fire that Yuki set to escape him]], because his looks were ruined and he's in pain, [[UngratefulBastard despite the fact that Yuki showed mercy by not killing him.]] When he finds out Yuki is still alive during their confrontation, he gloats about how he wants to rape him again, and tries to do so until Yuki escapes. He was a StalkerWithACrush on Yuki's mother, took the opportunity when her husband died, possibly raped her as well, and was a factor in her [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]. He's unable to work with pretty much any gang other than Wang's triad, because of his behavior that ranges from unstable at best to purely [[TheSociopath sociopathic]].sociopathic. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the other Yakuza reject him]].
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** Ashiei is a member of the {{Yakuza}}, like many characters in this manga, but what distinguishes him is the fact that he raped his stepson Yuki and sold him into being a {{sex slave}} when Yuki was only 12. Years later, he shows up again, stalking his stepson. When a friend of Yuki's tracks him down to confront him, Ashiei brags about his stepson's "talents" as a slave and about raping him. He reveals that he's stalking Yuki out of revenge for [[NeverMyFault being left with burns from a fire that Yuki set to escape him]], because his looks were ruined and he's in pain, despite the fact that Yuki showed mercy by not killing him. When he finds out Yuki is still alive during their confrontation, he gloats about how he wants to rape him again, and tries to do so until Yuki escapes. He was a StalkerWithACrush on Yuki's mother, took the opportunity when her husband died, possibly raped her as well, and was a factor in her [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]. He's unable to work with pretty much any gang other than Wang's triad, because of his behavior that ranges from unstable at best to purely [[TheSociopath sociopathic]]. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the other Yakuza reject him]].

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** Ashiei is a member of the {{Yakuza}}, like many characters in this manga, but what distinguishes him is the fact that he raped his stepson Yuki and sold him into being a {{sex slave}} when Yuki was only 12. Years later, he shows up again, stalking his stepson. When a friend of Yuki's tracks him down to confront him, Ashiei brags about his stepson's "talents" as a slave and about raping him. He reveals that he's stalking Yuki out of revenge for [[NeverMyFault being left with burns from a fire that Yuki set to escape him]], because his looks were ruined and he's in pain, [[UngratefulBastard despite the fact that Yuki showed mercy by not killing him. him.]] When he finds out Yuki is still alive during their confrontation, he gloats about how he wants to rape him again, and tries to do so until Yuki escapes. He was a StalkerWithACrush on Yuki's mother, took the opportunity when her husband died, possibly raped her as well, and was a factor in her [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]. He's unable to work with pretty much any gang other than Wang's triad, because of his behavior that ranges from unstable at best to purely [[TheSociopath sociopathic]]. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the other Yakuza reject him]].
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** Ashiei is a member of the {{Yakuza}}, like many characters in this manga, but what distinguished him is the fact that he raped his stepson Yuki and sold him into being a {{sex slave}} when Yuki was only 12. Years later, he shows up again, stalking his stepson. When a friend of Yuki's tracks him down to confront him, Ashiei brags about his stepson's "talents" as a slave and about raping him. He reveals that he's stalking Yuki out of revenge for [[NeverMyFault being left with burns from a fire that Yuki set to escape him]], because his looks were ruined and he's in pain, despite the fact that Yuki showed mercy by not killing him. When he finds out Yuki is still alive during their confrontation, he gloats about how he wants to rape him again, and tries to do so until Yuki escapes. He was a StalkerWithACrush on Yuki's mother, took the opportunity when her husband died, possibly raped her as well, and was a factor in her [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]. He's unable to work with pretty much any gang other than Wang's triad, because of his behavior that ranges from unstable at best to purely [[TheSociopath sociopathic]]. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the other Yakuza reject him]].

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** Ashiei is a member of the {{Yakuza}}, like many characters in this manga, but what distinguished distinguishes him is the fact that he raped his stepson Yuki and sold him into being a {{sex slave}} when Yuki was only 12. Years later, he shows up again, stalking his stepson. When a friend of Yuki's tracks him down to confront him, Ashiei brags about his stepson's "talents" as a slave and about raping him. He reveals that he's stalking Yuki out of revenge for [[NeverMyFault being left with burns from a fire that Yuki set to escape him]], because his looks were ruined and he's in pain, despite the fact that Yuki showed mercy by not killing him. When he finds out Yuki is still alive during their confrontation, he gloats about how he wants to rape him again, and tries to do so until Yuki escapes. He was a StalkerWithACrush on Yuki's mother, took the opportunity when her husband died, possibly raped her as well, and was a factor in her [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]. He's unable to work with pretty much any gang other than Wang's triad, because of his behavior that ranges from unstable at best to purely [[TheSociopath sociopathic]]. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the other Yakuza reject him]].
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* CompleteMonster: There are these two [[WouldHurtAChild pedophile]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapists]]:

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** Ashiei is a member of the {{Yakuza}}, like many characters in this manga, but what distinguished him is the fact that he raped his stepson Yuki and sold him into being a {{sex slave}} when Yuki was only 12. Years later, he shows up again, stalking his stepson. When a friend of Yuki's tracks him down to confront him, Ashiei brags about his stepson's "talents" as a slave and about raping him. He reveals that he's stalking Yuki out of revenge for [[NeverMyFault being left with burns from a fire that Yuki set to escape him]], because his looks were ruined and he's in pain, despite the fact that Yuki showed mercy by not killing him. When he finds out Yuki is still alive during their confrontation, he gloats about how he wants to rape him again, and tries to do so until Yuki escapes. He was a StalkerWithACrush on Yuki's mother, took the opportunity when her husband died, possibly raped her as well, and was a factor in her [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]. He's unable to work with pretty much any gang other than Wang's triad, because of his behavior that ranges from unstable at best to purely [[TheSociopath sociopathic]]. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the other Yakuza reject him]].
** Wang [[ContrivedCoincidence shows up]] upon the scene of Ashiei and Yuki fighting years later. He reveals himself to be a False Friend of Ashiei's, offers Yuki a loaded gun to finish him off, then, when Yuki hesitates, shoots [[AssholeVictim Ashiei]] himself. However, it turns out he was the slaveholder/pimp that bought Yuki from Ashiei. He is an owner/seller of child prostitutes. He didn’t help his former victim out of any noble cause, but instead wants Yuki, now seventeen-years-old, for himself as his personal "pet," as well as using him as TheMole against an opposing mob boss that's actually treating Yuki with some degree of respect and caring. By kidnapping Yuki and holding him hostage, along with his previous actions to consolidate power, he's also managed to turn the heat up on a MobWar that had grown somewhat cold after the first round of deaths.
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This is not YMMV. Moving.


* EvilVersusEvil: The main reason why it's a CrapsackWorld. There are ''very'' few people who would qualify as "good" (Jun, Hisako, and ''possibly'' Tetsu and Yuki if you overlook some of their activities, ''possibly'' Hyodo if you view him as the "honorable yakuza," e.g. with his refusing to be involved with sex slavery, his JailBaitWait and waiting for/trying to get Yuki to develop genuine feelings for him instead of raping him or buying him, and his joining with Tetsu in a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against Wang, that seems to be setting up for future chapters). Most of the others are varying from "venal, petty violent criminals" to "CompleteMonster."
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* CompleteMonster: In an EvilVersusEvil world, it's hard to stand out as ''the'' most evil, but RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil as is selling people to be {{SexSlave}}s, [[spoiler: and that makes Ashiei and Wang both fit the trope. Wang seems to be a mere SympatheticMurderer for the space of maybe a page and a half when he kills Ashiei - [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope then it's revealed he was one of Yuki's abusers ''and'' that he wants him as his own "pet."]] These are the bastards you want to see ''dead,'' which makes what happens to Ashiei a CruelTwistEnding - it looks like he got what he deserved, only from someone ''even worse.'']]
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** Rape and sex slavery are common parts of the "criminal underground," that leave a path of trauma and suffering through the lives of those affected.
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** For Wang: [[spoiler: Being one of Yuki's "customers" (a.k.a. a pedophile and rapist) and finding him again at 17, pretending to rescue him from Ashiei, giving him a SadisticChoice that he fails badly, then kidnapping him as his personal "pet" once more...]]

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** For Wang: [[spoiler: Being one of Yuki's "customers" (a.k.a. a pedophile and rapist) and finding him again at 17, pretending to rescue him from Ashiei, giving him a SadisticChoice that he fails badly, then kidnapping him as his personal "pet" once more...]]]]
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Love and respect for others gives one true happiness, not power.
** Seeking power at any cost just leaves everyone dead.
** TheFarmerAndTheViper: When dealing with some people (specifically those who make a life of exploiting others and yourself), offering kindness or mercy can be the worst mistake possible, as they will see it as a weakness.

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* CompleteMonster: In an EvilVersusEvil world, it's hard to stand out as ''the'' most evil, but RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil as is selling people to be SexSlaves, and that makes Ashiei and Wang both fit the trope. Wang seems to be a mere SympatheticMurderer for the space of maybe a page and a half when he kills Ashiei - [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope then it's revealed he was one of Yuki's abusers ''and'' that he wants him as his own "pet."]] These are the bastards you want to see ''dead,'' which makes what happens to Ashiei a CruelTwistEnding - it looks like he got what he deserved, only from someone ''even worse.''

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* CompleteMonster: In an EvilVersusEvil world, it's hard to stand out as ''the'' most evil, but RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil as is selling people to be SexSlaves, {{SexSlave}}s, [[spoiler: and that makes Ashiei and Wang both fit the trope. Wang seems to be a mere SympatheticMurderer for the space of maybe a page and a half when he kills Ashiei - [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope then it's revealed he was one of Yuki's abusers ''and'' that he wants him as his own "pet."]] These are the bastards you want to see ''dead,'' which makes what happens to Ashiei a CruelTwistEnding - it looks like he got what he deserved, only from someone ''even worse.'''']]


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* MoralEventHorizon:
** For Ashiei: [[spoiler: Raping his stepson, then selling him into sex slavery at 12]]
** For Wang: [[spoiler: Being one of Yuki's "customers" (a.k.a. a pedophile and rapist) and finding him again at 17, pretending to rescue him from Ashiei, giving him a SadisticChoice that he fails badly, then kidnapping him as his personal "pet" once more...]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Quite a few to say the least.
** Yuki: StockholmSyndrome victim and helpless {{uke}} that constantly needs to be saved from holding the IdiotBall, or a believably traumatized victim who tries to take the option that involves being there for Jun and not killing, to his own detriment?
* CompleteMonster: In an EvilVersusEvil world, it's hard to stand out as ''the'' most evil, but RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil as is selling people to be SexSlaves, and that makes Ashiei and Wang both fit the trope. Wang seems to be a mere SympatheticMurderer for the space of maybe a page and a half when he kills Ashiei - [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope then it's revealed he was one of Yuki's abusers ''and'' that he wants him as his own "pet."]] These are the bastards you want to see ''dead,'' which makes what happens to Ashiei a CruelTwistEnding - it looks like he got what he deserved, only from someone ''even worse.''
* EvilVersusEvil: The main reason why it's a CrapsackWorld. There are ''very'' few people who would qualify as "good" (Jun, Hisako, and ''possibly'' Tetsu and Yuki if you overlook some of their activities, ''possibly'' Hyodo if you view him as the "honorable yakuza," e.g. with his refusing to be involved with sex slavery, his JailBaitWait and waiting for/trying to get Yuki to develop genuine feelings for him instead of raping him or buying him, and his joining with Tetsu in a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against Wang, that seems to be setting up for future chapters). Most of the others are varying from "venal, petty violent criminals" to "CompleteMonster."

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