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** Anything invovling involving William's father is genuinely moving, which is rather odd given the rest of the film's {{Camp}} tone.
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** There's also her insane EngagementChallenge to Will, which a good deal of viewers [[NeverLiveItDown don't forgive.]]
*** ShownTheirWork: It's lifted from a 12th century poem, 'Lancelot, the Knight of the Cart'. Jocelyn wants poetry in her life, after all.
*** Regardless, it still could have gotten Will ''killed.'' His shoulder certainly got dislocated, at any rate.
*** ShownTheirWork: It's lifted from a 12th century poem, 'Lancelot, the Knight of the Cart'. Jocelyn wants poetry in her life, after all.
*** Regardless, it still could have gotten Will ''killed.'' His shoulder certainly got dislocated, at any rate.
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*** ShownTheirWork: It's]] Though it was [[ShownTheirWork lifted from a 12th century poem, poem]], 'Lancelot, the Knight of the Cart'. Jocelyn wants poetry in her life, after all.
*** Regardless, it still could have gotten Will ''killed.'' His shoulder certainly got dislocated, at any rate.all.
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*** ShownTheirWork: It's lifted from a 12th century poem, 'Lancelot, the Knight of the Cart'. Jocelyn wants poetry in her life, after all.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The songs the rest of the FiveManBand sing in a tavern about William.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music of Awesome]]: The songs the rest of the FiveManBand sing in a tavern about William.
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* TheScrappy: Jocelyn. Despite having some good lines and moments, for whatever reason (her status as TheObstructiveLoveInterest, her actress, the fact that [[FanPreferredCouple Kate's]] way cooler, [[MurderArsonAndJaywalking her hair?]]) she grates on the nerves of a ''lot'' of people who otherwise love the movie.
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* TheScrappy: Jocelyn. Despite having some good lines and moments, for whatever reason (her status as TheObstructiveLoveInterest, her actress, the fact that [[FanPreferredCouple Kate's]] way cooler, [[MurderArsonAndJaywalking [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking her hair?]]) she grates on the nerves of a ''lot'' of people who otherwise love the movie.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Edward the Black Prince is portrayed as a heroic and likeable individual who values William's courage and knights him despite his common birth. The ''historical'' Black Prince was well-known for conducting brutal scorched-earth campaigns that ravaged the French countryside, and to have despised and scorned the lower classes.
** The characters do mention his pillaging and burning of villages and appear very afraid to the point of immediately submitting defeat when finding out his true identity at one of the early tournaments. Edward's fondness of William despite him being lower class is motivated by William doing him two big favours earlier in the movie when he had no reason to do so, and willingly let himself be arrested instead of fleeing. He also likely did it to spite Adhemar who if not for William, would have become the World Champion.
*** They surrendered rather than facing him because wounding a royal, even in a tournament, was a big mistake. This is explicitly stated in the film.
** The characters do mention his pillaging and burning of villages and appear very afraid to the point of immediately submitting defeat when finding out his true identity at one of the early tournaments. Edward's fondness of William despite him being lower class is motivated by William doing him two big favours earlier in the movie when he had no reason to do so, and willingly let himself be arrested instead of fleeing. He also likely did it to spite Adhemar who if not for William, would have become the World Champion.
*** They surrendered rather than facing him because wounding a royal, even in a tournament, was a big mistake. This is explicitly stated in the film.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Will and Kate.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Adhemar's hallucination just prior to his defeat at the end is so bizarre and out of nowhere that it's actually cut out on many TV airings of the film.
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* FoeYay: Quite possibly deliberate, according to the {{DVD Commentary}}.
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** Made worse when people invoke ''[[RealWomenNeverWearDresses feminism]]'' as a reason to hate Jocelyn, saying that Kate was [[DieForourShip a better romantic option for Will due to being a "strong female character"]]. You know, there's the small fact that if the fangirls were as "feminist" as they claimed, they wouldn't say that [[UnfortunateImplications a "strong female character" needs a (male) romantic interest to make her truly whole]], not to mention Kate is a ''widow'' going through TheMourningAfter...
*** There's also her insane EngagementChallenge to will, which a good deal of viewers [[NeverLiveItDown don't forgive.]]
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** Made worse There's also her insane EngagementChallenge to will, which a good deal of viewers [[NeverLiveItDown don't forgive.]]
** It goes into completely unreasonable territory when people invoke ''[[RealWomenNeverWearDresses feminism]]'' as a reason to hate Jocelyn, saying that Kate was [[DieForourShip a better romantic option for Will due to being a "strong female character"]]. You know, there's the small fact that if the fangirls were as "feminist" as they claimed, they wouldn't say that [[UnfortunateImplications a "strong female character" needs a (male) romantic interest to make her truly whole]], not to mention Kate is a ''widow'' going throughTheMourningAfter...
*** There's also her insane EngagementChallenge to will, which a good deal of viewers [[NeverLiveItDown don't forgive.]]TheMourningAfter...
** It goes into completely unreasonable territory when people invoke ''[[RealWomenNeverWearDresses feminism]]'' as a reason to hate Jocelyn, saying that Kate was [[DieForourShip a better romantic option for Will due to being a "strong female character"]]. You know, there's the small fact that if the fangirls were as "feminist" as they claimed, they wouldn't say that [[UnfortunateImplications a "strong female character" needs a (male) romantic interest to make her truly whole]], not to mention Kate is a ''widow'' going through
*** There's also her insane EngagementChallenge to will, which a good deal of viewers [[NeverLiveItDown don't forgive.]]
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* TheScrappy: Jocelyn. Despite having some good lines and moments, for whatever reason (her status as TheObstructiveLoveInterest, her actress, the fact that [[FanPreferredCouple Kate's]] way cooler, her hair?) she grates on the nerves of a ''lot'' of people who otherwise love the movie.
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* TheScrappy: Jocelyn. Despite having some good lines and moments, for whatever reason (her status as TheObstructiveLoveInterest, her actress, the fact that [[FanPreferredCouple Kate's]] way cooler, [[MurderArsonAndJaywalking her hair?) hair?]]) she grates on the nerves of a ''lot'' of people who otherwise love the movie.
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** Then again, [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste this may have been the point.]]
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** NarmCharm: However, the romantic dialogue still works since William's supposed to be struggling with expressing his feelings.
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** [[spoiler:[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkp8TnCaNCg&t=0m43s WIIILIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!]]]] It doesn't help that the line is said by William himself.
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* ClicheStorm: Some would argue that there isn't very much that's original in this film beyond the [[AnachronismStew main gimmick]].
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* {{Narm}}: The romantic dialogue can sometimes come off this way.
* {{Narm}}: The romantic dialogue can sometimes come off this way.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: You know Jocelyn's maid? Believe it or not, but that's actually Berenice Bejo, who would go on to receive major critical praise and recognition for her role in ''TheArtist'' and be nominated for a Golden Globe.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: You know Jocelyn's maid? Believe it or not, but that's actually Berenice Bejo, who would go on to receive major critical praise and recognition for her role in ''TheArtist'' and be nominated for a Golden Globe.an Academy Award.
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*** Also, well, sorry to make this personal, but... am I the only one who thinks that Jocelyn is not only not pretty, but downright ugly? Not to mention petty and unlikable in any way?
**** I dislike her more on the basis of her insane EngagementChallenge, which could have gotten Will ''killed,'' more than her physical appearance.
**** I dislike her more on the basis of her insane EngagementChallenge, which could have gotten Will ''killed,'' more than her physical appearance.
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*** Also, well, sorry to make this personal, but... am I the only one who thinks that Jocelyn is not only not pretty, but downright ugly? Not to mention petty and unlikable in any way?
**** I dislike her more on the basis ofThere's also her insane EngagementChallenge, EngagementChallenge to will, which could have gotten Will ''killed,'' more than her physical appearance.a good deal of viewers [[NeverLiveItDown don't forgive.]]
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** Ok check out about 2:34 of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSDrdpSgNY this]]. [[UnusualEuphemism Kick]], my foot.
** Ok check out about 2:34 of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSDrdpSgNY this]]. [[UnusualEuphemism Kick]], my foot.
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* TheScrappy: Josselyn. Despite having some good lines and moments, for whatever reason (her status as TheObstructiveLoveInterest, her actress, the fact that [[FanPreferredCouple Kate's]] way cooler, her hair?) she grates on the nerves of a ''lot'' of people who otherwise love the movie.
** Made worse when people invoke ''[[RealWomenNeverWearDresses feminism]]'' as a reason to hate Josselyn, saying that Kate was [[DieForourShip a better romantic option for Will due to being a "strong female character"]]. You know, there's the small fact that if the fangirls were as "feminist" as they claimed, they wouldn't say that [[UnfortunateImplications a "strong female character" needs a (male) romantic interest to make her truly whole]], not to mention Kate is a ''widow'' going through TheMourningAfter...
*** Also, well, sorry to make this personal, but... am I the only one who thinks that Josselyn is not only not pretty, but downright ugly? Not to mention petty and unlikable in any way?
** Made worse when people invoke ''[[RealWomenNeverWearDresses feminism]]'' as a reason to hate Josselyn, saying that Kate was [[DieForourShip a better romantic option for Will due to being a "strong female character"]]. You know, there's the small fact that if the fangirls were as "feminist" as they claimed, they wouldn't say that [[UnfortunateImplications a "strong female character" needs a (male) romantic interest to make her truly whole]], not to mention Kate is a ''widow'' going through TheMourningAfter...
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* RetroactiveRecognition: You know Jocelyn's maid? Believe it or not, but that's actually Berenice Bejo, who would go on to receive major critical praise and recognition for her role in ''TheArtist'' and be nominated for a Golden Globe.
* TheScrappy:Josselyn.Jocelyn. Despite having some good lines and moments, for whatever reason (her status as TheObstructiveLoveInterest, her actress, the fact that [[FanPreferredCouple Kate's]] way cooler, her hair?) she grates on the nerves of a ''lot'' of people who otherwise love the movie.
** Made worse when people invoke ''[[RealWomenNeverWearDresses feminism]]'' as a reason to hateJosselyn, Jocelyn, saying that Kate was [[DieForourShip a better romantic option for Will due to being a "strong female character"]]. You know, there's the small fact that if the fangirls were as "feminist" as they claimed, they wouldn't say that [[UnfortunateImplications a "strong female character" needs a (male) romantic interest to make her truly whole]], not to mention Kate is a ''widow'' going through TheMourningAfter...
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:Will's friends standing by him while he is arrested and put in the pillory, protecting him from being beaten and having vegetables thrown at him]].
** Not to mention [[spoiler: Will's reunion with his blind father, which doubles as a TearJerker]].
** Will's friends helping him write his love letter ("I miss you like the sun misses the flower").
** The Black Prince saying "Your men love you. If I knew nothing else about you, that would be enough."
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Chaucer teaching Will how to dance, with Wat as his dance partner.
--> '''Chaucer''': And ''one'' and ''two'' and ''three'' and ''four'' and ''Wat'' doesn't ''lead'', he ''fol''lows like a ''girl''.
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-->'''Chaucer''': And ''one'' and ''two'' and twirly-twirly-twirl, you can hit me all day cause you punch like a ...what?
-->'''Roland''': A girl!
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** Will's friends helping him write his love letter ("I miss you like the sun misses the flower").
** The Black Prince saying "Your men love you. If I knew nothing else about you, that would be enough."
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Chaucer teaching Will how to dance, with Wat as his dance partner.
--> '''Chaucer''': And ''one'' and ''two'' and ''three'' and ''four'' and ''Wat'' doesn't ''lead'', he ''fol''lows like a ''girl''.
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-->'''Chaucer''': And ''one'' and ''two'' and twirly-twirly-twirl, you can hit me all day cause you punch like a ...what?
-->'''Roland''': A girl!
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* TearJerker: In 'verse example; William's friends all suffer some amount of this when he is about to be taken away for impersonating a knight.
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