History WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings / WebOriginal

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were formerly very accommodating with fans and loved interacting with them on social media and in livestreams. Following the end of the series, however, this is no longer the case, due to some extremely unpleasant interactions with fans:
** Circa 2014, the three creators granted permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT, with Jeff and Vinny even making personal cameos in some of the early games. Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content -- with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when one underage fan (who allegedly had Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's full name and identity online, claiming that his EMH character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]. Said individual's accounts began to turn up in Evan's background checks, complete with posts talking to and about their partner (which, given that Evan was in his late twenties at the time, gave [[UnfortunateImplications the impression of some]] ''[[UnfortunateImplications very]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications inappropriate things]]). When Evan and his girlfriend asked them to stop, the fan [[InsaneTrollLogic accused them of being ableist]] and rallied their friends to harass them. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character in order to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).

* WebAnimation/RubberFruit was one of the most prolific [[VideoGame/GarrysMod GModders]] on Website/YouTube, but stopped making videos between December 2011 to July 2012 to show their displeasure towards their subscribers, particularly for constant demands for new videos as well as the habit for fans to spam lines of their works on videos for music they used[[note]]which did lead to a few comments sections of thtime videos being blocked, notably those being used for WebAnimation/PainisCupcake's [[VideoGame/DonkeyKong64 background music]][[/note]].

* WebAnimation/RubberFruit was one of the most prolific [[VideoGame/GarrysMod GModders]] on Website/YouTube, but stopped making videos between December 2011 to July 2012 to show their displeasure towards their subscribers, particularly for constant demands for new videos as well as the habit for fans to spam lines of their works on videos for music they used[[note]]which did lead to a few comments sections of these videos being blocked, notably those being used for WebAnimation/PainisCupcake's [[VideoGame/DonkeyKong64 background music]][[/note]].

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were formerly very accommodating with fans and loved interacting with them on social media and in livestreams. Following the end of the series, however, this is no longer the case, due to some extremely unpleasant incidents:
** Circa 2014, the three creators granted permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT, with Jeff and Vinny even making personal cameos in some of the early games. Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content -- with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when one underage fan (who allegedly had Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's full name and identity online, claiming that his character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]. Said individual's accounts began to turn up in Evan's background checks, complete with posts talking to and about their partner (which, given that Evan was in his late twenties at the time, gave [[UnfortunateImplications the impression of some]] ''[[UnfortunateImplications very]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications inappropriate things]]). When Evan and his girlfriend asked them to stop, the fan [[InsaneTrollLogic accused them of being ableist]] and rallied their friends to harass them. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character in order to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).
** Due to the above, both Evan and Jeff will automatically block and report ''any'' follower who has a profile pic featuring their faces (unless it's FanArt or an image from the series).
** On top of fans stealing their personal information, all three of the creators have also endured harassment from enamored fans. Vinnie quit posting on social media entirely in 2019 after a female fan stalked him across his social media accounts, sending him suggestive photos and claiming that the two of them were "soul mates" (and, after Vinnie ignored her, that he was abusing her). He has since made it known that he no longer has any desire to interact with fans (stating that fans treat content creators as "disposable entertainment" at best), and that he will only be using social media for career-related purposes in the future.

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were formerly very accommodating with fans and loved interacting with them on social media and in livestreams. Following the end of the series, however this is no longer the case, due largely to some extremely unpleasant incidents:
** Circa 2014, the three creators granted permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT (with Jeff and Vinny even making personal cameos in some of the early games). Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content (with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts). This came to a head in 2021, when one underage fan (who allegedly had Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's full name and identity online, claiming that his character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]; said individual's accounts started turning up in Evan's background checks, complete with posts talking to and about their teenage partner (which, given that Evan was in his late twenties at the time, gave [[UnfortunateImplications the appearance of some]] ''[[UnfortunateImplications very]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications inappropriate things]]). When Evan and his girlfriend asked them to stop, the fan and their friends [[InsaneTrollLogic accused them of being ableist]]. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character, in order to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).

* WebVideo/VOMSProject VirtualYoutuber Amano Pikamee announced in March 2023 her retirement from all activities related to her, primarily streaming, as well as [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes privatizing all previous streams on her account]]. While she quietly danced around the reasons why, it's widely accepted to have been the result of an incident she experienced the previous month where upon announcing her intent to stream ''VideoGame/HogwartsLegacy'' -- [[OvershadowedByControversy a game subject to an astonishingly hostile profile for its close association to franchise creator J.K. Rowling and her various controversial political statements]] -- Pikamee was targeted with a massive harassment/smear campaign that endured even after she rescinded her plan to play the game, apologized (acknowledging her interest in the game as having nothing to do with its politics), and went on a month-long hiatus from social media. Some peripheral comments have suggested she had planned on retiring earlier for unrelated personal reasons, but the toxicity of the situation forced her into leaving far earlier than what anyone had planned.

* WebAnimation/YouTubePoop creator Creator/{{cs188}} took down two of his poops, "No one needs foundation repair" and "Escape from [=HoH SiS=]", because both used an advertisement from a foundation repair company in Texas who filed a complaint against him on Website/YouTube. After taking them down, he put up [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSmcJO9sTrw a video explaining]] why they were taken down, and asked that anyone else using that company's ads for a source do likewise. But ''three years'' later, after receiving a call from one of the employees saying that someone had prank-called the company, he put up ''another'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33nPI1VK5g video]] asking people not to do that.

* WebVideo/VOMSProject VirtualYoutuber Amano Pikamee announced in March 2023 her retirement from all activities related to her (primarily streaming). While she quietly danced around the reasons why, it's widely accepted to have been the result of an incident she experienced the previous month where upon announcing her intent to stream ''VideoGame/HogwartsLegacy'' -- [[OvershadowedByControversy a game subject to an astonishingly hostile profile for its close association to franchise creator J.K. Rowling and her various controversial political statements]] -- Pikamee was targeted with a massive harassment/smear campaign that endured even after she rescinded her plan to play the game, apologized (acknowledging her interest in the game as having nothing to do with its politics), and went on a month-long hiatus from social media.

* WebVideo/{{PIEGUYRULZ}} admitted that harassment from fans over him ''not'' making his "Every Episode Of [[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants SpongeBob]] Reviewed" series in favor of other content played a significant factor in why he ultimately lost his passion for making said videos and put them (along with any other videos explicitly about ''[=SpongeBob SquarePants=]'') on indefinite hold. Not helping was backlash over the final "Every Episode of [=SpongeBob=]", where Pie Guy gave Season 10 (a season that the ''[=SpongeBob=]'' fanbase largely saw as [[WinBackTheCrowd a return to form]]) [[SoOkayItsAverage a "Meh" rating]] for [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks using too many ideas and concepts from earlier seasons for it to merit a total pass from him]], resulting in [[HePannedItNowHeSucks backlash from fans]] who disagreed. He has since started other "Every Episode Reviewed" series for other shows (such as ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime''), but he's adamant about not continuing the ''Every Episode of [=SpongeBob=] Reviewed'' series.

* Fanfiction sites, most notably Website/FanFictionDotNet, used to allow ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' fanfic and even outright {{MST}}ing in other categories. However, this inevitably attracted [[InternetJerk Internet Jerks]] who used [=MSTs=] to attack authors and/or insult their work, resulting in a total ban on [=MSTs=], even if they were done with authorial consent or by the author themselves.

* After WebVideo/{{Chadtronic}} showcased him in the (now deleted) "DEEP INTO YOUTUBE 1" video, Obscure [[DerangedAnimation (and surreal)]] 3D animator Nicolas Fedorov had his videos explode in popularity. However, this is one of the few instances where the ColbertBump turned into a ''bad'' thing, as he became increasingly impatient with the influx of fans coming in from Chadtronic's channel, lashed out against them, and eventually purged all of his media accounts and went off the internet permanently. The only way to watch his videos now (or the first "DEEP INTO YOUTUBE" for that matter) was to KeepCirculatingTheTapes.

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were formerly very accommodating with fans and loved interacting with them online, even granting permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT. Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' actual names and incorporating details from their personal lives into fanmade content (with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts). This came to a head in 2021, when one fan (who allegedly had Dissociative Identity Disorder) begin using Evan Jennings's full name and identity, claiming that his character was one of their alters; when said roleplay account started turning up background checks, Evan and his partner asked the fan to stop, only for that person to [[InsaneTrollLogic accuse them of being ableist]]. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character, to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).
** All three of the creators ''and'' their girlfriends have had to delete or purge the followers from their social media accounts, due to harassment from fans and enamored fangirls. Vinnie quit posting on social media entirely in 2019 after one female fan began stalking him across his social media accounts, claiming that the two of them were "soul mates" (and, after Vinnie ignored her, that she was being abused). He has since stated that he no longer has any desire to interact with fans (stating that fans treat content creators as "disposable entertainment" at best), and that he will only be using social media for career-related purposes in the future.

** For being discussed: Orchard hates the {{Vocal Minorit|y}}ies of various cartoons for either their toxic behavior or fandoms not policing their behavior. Most of the problems she has with toxic fans wind up in her opinion series ''Glass of Water'', where Orchard calls out fans on how they're only making creators' jobs harder. She especially calls out [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic bronies]] quite a bit, arguing that their reputation as a toxic fandom is deserved because of a refusal to police and/or purge [[LoonyFan the more extreme members of their fandom]]. She's also talked about [[https://youtu.be/NYLRg-SnTSw a cadre of internet stalkers that she's accumulated over the years]], referring to herself as their "bitch eating crackers" for how anything she does is being taken in the worst possible light, to the point of IrrationalHatred. Orchard also discusses the SunkCostFallacy involved in such stalking, arguing that the people who stalk Orchard need her to be as bad as they claim she is because it helps them feel better about themselves, and because to admit otherwise would mean that they're harassing her for no reason. Orchard even mentions that one such stalker had been doing it for eight years at the time that the video discussing the harassment went live.
** For playing it straight: Orchard usually deletes comments on her videos that don't provide maturely-worded criticism because she "can't trust fans to do that on their own", and she frequently disables ratings. In April 2020, Orchard [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5a4XrJcThY posted a video]] where she revealed that she was having a CreatorBreakdown from people asking the same questions over and over, and she called out one fan in particular for ''tracking down her home address'' - not to harass Orchard, but to send her a UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch and a copy of ''VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield'' because they wanted her to bash the game, despite Orchard previously stating that she was not interested in doing so.

* Fanfiction sites, most notably Website/FanFictionDotNet used to allow ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' fanfic and even outright {{MST}}ing in other categories. However, this inevitably attracted [[InternetJerk Internet Jerks]] who used [=MSTs=] to attack authors and/or insult their work, resulting in a total ban on [=MSTs=], even if they were done with authorial consent or even by the author themselves.

** In late January 2020, Enter deleted his Twitter account due to heavy backlash and criticism towards his Nick-O-Rama series, in addition to excessive hostility towards him in general. When he recreated his Twitter in 2021, he was very open about it being run by someone else.

* On Twitter, Japanese artist Manga Materials has locked all of her English-translated art tutorials behind a paywall on Patreon due to harassment by western users accusing her of attacking art styles.

* Fanfiction sites, most notably Website/FanFictionDotNet used to allow ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' fanfic and even outright {{MST}}ing in other categories. However, thanks to {{GIFT}}, this inevitably attracted {{jerkass}}es who used [=MSTs=] to attack authors and/or insult their work, resulting in a total ban on [=MSTs=], even if they were done with authorial consent or even by the author themselves.

* This is likely the reason for Website/GoAnimate's removal of the casual [=GoPlus=] subscription plan accounts and retool as a pay-only business website in 2015. Even though the site was initially made with anybody's usage in mind, it was soon viewed as the laughingstock of the internet due to it only being used to make videos where characters from shows like WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} [[YouAreGrounded get grounded]] and assaulted. However, the Comedy World themes were still accessible through a hidden menu in the main video maker until 2016, when the non-business themes were removed as part of the company's transition from Flash to [=HTML5=]. This led to users to latch on to [=GoAnimate=] for Schools, which still hosted the non-business themes until they were also removed from the service in mid-2016 before it was shut down entirely in 2019. As time went on, the site continually removed features that were left as artifacts on other websites until the only way users could make the videos was by using a web browser extension. Because of all this, coupled with the irrelevance of non-business themes on the website, it's likely that this means the use of the platform for Grounded and other videos for casual purposes will likely and finally come to an end entirely. On the bright side, we wouldn't have to worry about the Vyond Shovelware content anymore.

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were formerly very accommodating with fans, even granting permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT. Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' actual names and incorporating details from their personal lives into fanmade content (with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts). This came to a head in 2021, when one fan (who claimed to have Dissociative Identity Disorder) begin using Evan Jennings's full name and identity to roleplay as his character -- and [[InsaneTrollLogic accused Evan and his partner of being ableist]] when they asked them to stop. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character, to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).
** All three of the creators ''and'' their girlfriends have had to delete or purge the followers from their social media accounts, due to harassment from fans and enamored fangirls. Vinnie quit posting on social media entirely in 2019, after one female fan began stalking him across his social media accounts, claiming that the two of them were in a relationship (and, after Vinnie ignored her, that she was being emotionally and physically abused).

* Many [=LPers=] have quit playing [[GameMod ROM Hacks]] because they were sick of getting nothing but [[SturgeonsLaw poorly-made]] "[[VideoGame/KaizoMarioWorld Kaizo]] [[FollowTheLeader Clones]]" made to [[{{Troll}} get them angry enough to]] RageQuit. LetsPlay/ProtonJon is at least indifferent to people asking him about it, even though he constantly makes it clear that he won't do ROM Hack [=LPs=] again. and LetsPlay/{{Azureblade49}} is so sick of such Kaizo Clones that it's [[CreatorBacklash not a particularly wise thing to ask him about.]]

* Japanese artists, particularly on Pixiv, are staunchly against the posting of their art on other sites; pages like the Japan-based [[http://ofp.yu.to/ Online Fanarts Protection]] exist to inform people about such policies. Although artists are generally fine with people linking to the pages for their art on sites like Twitter and Facebook, they draw the line at their art being uploaded onto sites such as Website/{{Tumblr}}, and will often have a quip on their Pixiv profile warning users against the unauthorized posting of their art on other sites, or at the least telling fans to ask them before reposting. Some artists will go as far as to make their works private or delete them altogether if this problem is bad enough. Reactions to this sort of policy have been mixed; fellow artists generally agree with them, citing that they prefer to control where on the web their works show up (especially considering some users don't bother to give credit to the original artist when posting their images, or worse, [[UsefulNotes/{{Plagiarism}} claim the art as their own]]) while many non-artists, especially Westerners, feel that there's no point complaining about it by virtue of content on the Internet being easily reposted elsewhere and that asking artists for permission to post art on other sites is too much of a hassle, especially when [[LanguageBarrier most artists on Pixiv do not understand English and most Westerners don't know Japanese]]. Many Japanese artists are nonetheless critical of the Western and overseas fandom and claim they do not respect their rules and boundaries. So this ties into ValuesDissonance since the Western fanbases interact differently than Japanese fanbases (in addition to language barriers), and they thus have different views on what is considered acceptable behavior. Because of the issue, even if it's your own Pixiv account, you can't post pictures using a link from Pixiv on Tumblr.

* On Twitter, Japanese artist Manga Materials has locked all of her English-translated art tutorials behind a paywall due to harassment by western users accusing her of attacking art styles.

* Voice actress Wubcake was quite prominent in the fandom for ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' and ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', including being widely thought of as ''the'' fan voice for Sunset Shimmer. In 2020, Wubcake announced that she would no longer be making MLP-related content, choosing to focus on ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'' content instead. [[https://youtu.be/aSbB498SnCQ?t=1234 In a livestream]], Wubcake cited general burnout with [[{{Typecasting}} being asked to do the same kinds of lines over and over in brony videos]], as well as meeting very toxic people in the brony fandom

** She has also been accused by other creators of harassment and defamation; and had a Cease and Desist notice filed by fellow Youtube creator Joshscorcher.

* WebAnimation/RubberFruit was one of the most prolific [[VideoGame/GarrysMod GModders]] on Website/YouTube, but stopped making videos between December 2011 to July 2012 to show their displeasure towards their subscribers, particularly for constant demands for new videos as well as the habit for fans to spam lines of their works on videos for music they used[[note]]which did lead to a few comments sections of these videos being blocked, notably those being used for Machinima/PainisCupcake's [[VideoGame/DonkeyKong64 background music]][[/note]].

* Two LetsPlay/{{Yogscast}} channels, specifically LetsPlay/{{Rythian}} and LetsPlay/SimonLane and LetsPlay/LewisBrindley's joint channel, turned comments off for a few months in 2013. The former did it because he felt it was just getting annoying, the latter did it in part because of that (you can see examples of just what was written [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMYxImN6EBo here]]) but the main reason was because of fraudsters, who pretended that Simon had died and that extra funding was needed to complete ''[[Machinima/YogscastMinecraftSeries Shadow of Israphel]]''. They did eventually turn them back on in both cases, however.

* Voice actress Wubcake was quite prominent in the fandom for ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' and ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', including being widely thought of as ''the'' fan voice for Sunset Shimmer. In 2020, Wubcake announced that she would no longer be making MLP-related content, choosing to focus on ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'' content instead. [[https://youtu.be/aSbB498SnCQ?t=1234 In a livestream]], Wubcake cited general burnout with [[{{Typecasting}} being asked to do the same kinds of lines over and over in brony videos]], as well as meeting very toxic people in the brony fandom. She cited a specific incident in which someone raised tens of thousands of dollars on [=GoFundMe=] (ostensibly for cancer treatment), only to delete all of their social media accounts the moment that the money was raised. When Wubcake posted on Twitter that she hoped it wasn't a scam, Peter New -- a voice actor from ''Friendship is Magic'' -- {{Quote Mine}}d Wubcake and sent his Twitter followers after her, leading to a ton of harassment after Wubcake's words were taken out of context. All of this contributed to Wubcake's decision to bolt from ''MLP'' and never look back.

** In August 2022, the company released ''Holostars EN'', the first set of male performers who primarily streamed in English. As a way for the new boys to build up a fanbase, they collabed with various female ''Hololive'' English stars, including [[Characters/HololiveOuroKroniiCh Ouro Kronii]]. This caused several of Kronii's more toxic shipper fans to attack Vesper, the member of ''Holostars EN'' that she collabed with. Kronii eventually [[https://youtu.be/g_v3T1DWnQU addressed the drama]], calling out her most toxic fans and telling them to knock it off. Kronii denied she had any romantic attraction to any of the ''Holostars'' members, and added that even if she did, she wouldn't engage in OfficeRomance with anybody because it would be unprofessional and would risk damaging her reputation.

* On Twitter, Japanese artist MangaMaterials has locked all of her English-translated art tutorials behind a paywall due to harassment by western users accusing her of attacking art styles.