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* Speaking about Littlefinger's interference, Jon and Sansa are in odds regarding the number of men scheduled to attack Winterfell and Ramsey. Jon is desperate to attack before they lose the window of opportunity, while Sansa wants Jon to strategize with a cool head.\\

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* Speaking about Littlefinger's interference, Jon and Sansa are in odds regarding the number of men scheduled to attack Winterfell and Ramsey.Ramsay. Jon is desperate to attack before they lose the window of opportunity, while Sansa wants Jon to strategize with a cool head.\\



'''As A Result:''' Rickon is killed by Ramsay, numerous Wildlings and Northmen are killed by Ramsey's forces, even Jon himself is almost killed by them, which could have been avoided if Jon knew about TheCavalry. If Ramsay didn't fool around with creating a body wall to suffocate Jon and his army with, he would have been dead alongside his loyal retinue by the time the Vale arrived to back them up.

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'''As A Result:''' Rickon is killed by Ramsay, numerous Wildlings and Northmen are killed by Ramsey's Ramsay's forces, even Jon himself is almost killed by them, which could have been avoided if Jon knew about TheCavalry. If Ramsay didn't fool around with creating a body wall to suffocate Jon and his army with, he would have been dead alongside his loyal retinue by the time the Vale arrived to back them up.
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* Speaking about Littlefinger's interference, Jon and Sansa are in odds regarding the number of men scheduled to attack Winterfell and Ramsey. Jon is desperate to attack before they lose the window of opportunity, while Sansa wants Jon to strategize with a cool head.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Sansa to mention that she is in good relationship with the Vale, and they can provide more than enough men to attack Winterfell. Jon can surely work on a proper strategy if he knows about the men of the Vale.\\
'''Instead:''' Sansa doesn't inform Jon about this for some reason, letting him think that he is still short on men and haphazardly makes a plan for the battle.\\
'''As A Result:''' Rickon is killed by Ramsay, numerous Wildlings and Northmen are killed by Ramsey's forces, even Jon himself is almost killed by them, which could have been avoided if Jon knew about TheCavalry. If Ramsay didn't fool around with creating a body wall to suffocate Jon and his army with, he would have been dead alongside his loyal retinue by the time the Vale arrived to back them up.
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* Daenerys has finally managed to turn the tables on the Lannister contingency in the war by attacking (and destroying) the Golden Company, the Iron Fleet, the ballistae across King's Landing, as well as the morale of the Lannister Army, which signals them to surrender the city to Daenerys. They ring the bells (as marked by Tyrion) to indicate the city has fallen to Daenerys and her army.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Daenerys to accept the surrender gracefully. She has already won the war, she has no reason to fight any more.\\
'''Or You'd Expect:''' If Daenerys was really angry, she'd concentrate on burning Cersei and the Red Keep down for killing Missandei. It will show Westeros she's very serious about taking the continent, and resisting her will mean idiocy in the long run.\\
'''Instead:''' She gets pissed off at the bells ringing and begins burning down ''literally'' everything else first, destroying King's Landing to the ground and killing around a million civilians, and eventually in the end, burning the Red Keep down.\\
'''As A Result:''' Tyrion turns on her, and convinces Jon to kill Daenerys. Jon hesitates, but after hearing Daenerys talk about 'liberating' everything from Winterfell to Dorne, from Qarth to Lannisport, Jon realizes Daenerys is serious on razing the entire continent down to liberate it. Jon eventually kills her, and everything she worked for, [[AllForNothing ended up for nought in the end]].
* Jon steels himself to convince Daenerys, and if she's not, then killing her. He makes his way to the throne room.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Dany to have some people loyal only to her in the room all the time, which won't be any difficulty from the Unsullied and the Dothraki. She just massacred a city, and Tyrion betrayed her, she will surely expect any of her newfound enemies to attempt assassinating her.\\
'''Instead:''' She doesn't have ''any'' guards around her at all. Anyone could just walk up to her and attempt assassinating her.\\
'''Result:''' Jon tries convincing Dany to convince the world that she can be a merciful ruler, and when she refuses, reluctantly assassinates her. Drogon then burns the Iron Throne and takes away Dany's body, and if Jon (probably) didn't confess to murdering Dany, he would have gotten away scot-free, which Jon wouldn't have been able to do at all if Dany even had one loyal guard with her.
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* After Jon's killing of Daenerys following her laying waste to King's Landing, Daenerys's followers Grey Worm and the Unsullied -- loyal to Daenerys no matter what -- imprison Jon and Tyrion.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Grey Worm to immediately kill Jon -- and Tyrion for good measure. He's shown no compunction about executing prisoners for far smaller crimes than regicide and even treason. Since he has the biggest army around and control of the city, people aren't exactly in a position to refuse him, and even if the North did try to hit back, it would be a small price to pay for killing the man who murdered his queen.\\
'''Or:''' If there must be a trial or council to decide their fate and if the other leaders of Westeros must be present, for Grey Worm to try and include those on the council that he knows have UndyingLoyalty to Dany (such as the Unsullied captains and Dothraki chieftains).\\
'''Instead:''' The council at the end of the series ends up being almost entirely comprised of Jon's family and close friends. They sentence Jon with exile to the Night's Watch while the newly elected king, Bran, names Tyrion as his hand as punishment. Grey Worm just kinda... sits back and watches it happen.
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'''The Result''': Sansa immediately begins using Jon's lineage against Dany, against his wishes, and starts stirring up trouble for whatever purpose she has in mind. One can almost hear Littlefinger's line from Season 1 as she blabs to Tyrion. "I told you not to trust me..."

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'''The Result''': Sansa immediately begins using Jon's lineage against Dany, against his wishes, and starts stirring up trouble for whatever purpose she has in mind. One can almost hear Littlefinger's line from Season 1 as she blabs to Tyrion. "I told did warn you not to trust me..."
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'''You'd Expect''': That [[spoiler: Littlefinger]] would point this out and mention that it's NotSoDifferent from what Cersei did to her brother Tyrion. Also that he would [[spoiler: deny the charges and point out that the vision-based evidence is flimsy. He has to sway the lords to his side and could do so by appealing to common sense. If that doesn't work, he could do what Tyrion did and demand a trial by combat, naming an appropriate champion to fight on his behalf.]]\\

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'''You'd Expect''': That [[spoiler: Littlefinger]] would point this out and mention that it's NotSoDifferent no different from what Cersei did to her brother Tyrion. Also that he would [[spoiler: deny the charges and point out that the vision-based evidence is flimsy. He has to sway the lords to his side and could do so by appealing to common sense. If that doesn't work, he could do what Tyrion did and demand a trial by combat, naming an appropriate champion to fight on his behalf.]]\\
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'''As a Result''': The team responsible for the Wight Hunt make some crucial errors (such as kidnapping a wight from the thick of the Army of the Dead, not making any contingency plans if they find themselves in trouble), which results in the deaths of [[spoiler: Thoros and some {{Red Shirt}}s, Daenerys losing Viserion at the hands of the Night King himself, and the near-death of Jon Snow (which was only averted by the [[DeusExMachina timely arrival of Benjen]])]].

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'''As a Result''': The team responsible for the Wight Hunt make some crucial errors (such as kidnapping a wight from the thick of the Army of the Dead, not making any contingency plans if they find themselves in trouble), which results in the deaths of [[spoiler: Thoros and some {{Red Shirt}}s, Daenerys losing Viserion at the hands of the Night King himself, and the near-death of Jon Snow (which was only averted by the [[DeusExMachina timely arrival of Benjen]])]].\\

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* Bran informs Jon Snow that the Night King and the Army of the Dead are closing on south. Daenerys is worried if she halts her plan to deal with them, Cersei will reset every progress Daenerys made in the season.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Tyrion to suggest Daenerys to survey for proof for the Army of the Dead using her dragons, and after getting it, attack the Red Keep immediately to remove Cersei's threat. A unified Westeros under Daenerys has a greater chance against the Army of the Dead than a divided and rebelling Westeros.\\
'''Instead''': Tyrion suggests bringing a Wight from beyond the Wall, and to show Cersei direct proof that the Army of the Dead exists.\\
'''You'd Also Expect''': Everyone else to point out how stupid the idea is, as Cersei will not help her enemies ''no matter what''.\\
'''Instead''': Everyone reacts to the Wight Hunt idea as if it's the greatest strategic decision ever made. Eventually, they think to send someone north to get the said wight.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Tyrion to suggest sending some fast movers in the Night's Watch to quickly capture any wight near the Wall, and bring it to Dragonstone or Winterfell.\\
'''Instead''': Jon decides to lead the expedition. All of them forget if Jon somehow dies during the hunt, all the efforts of an alliance with the Targaryens and the North will be for vain.\\
'''As a Result''': The team responsible for the Wight Hunt make some crucial errors (such as kidnapping a wight from the thick of the Army of the Dead, not making any contingency plans if they find themselves in trouble), which results in the deaths of [[spoiler: Thoros and some {{Red Shirt}}s, Daenerys losing Viserion at the hands of the Night King himself, and the near-death of Jon Snow (which was only averted by the [[DeusExMachina timely arrival of Benjen]])]].
'''Even Worse''': All of this (to convince Cersei that the Army of the Dead exists) [[spoiler: [[AllForNothing is in vain]] as Cersei instead plots to let the North and the Army of the Dead fight each other out, and wipe out the survivors. And also, the Night King uses a now-undead Viserion to breach the Wall, which lets the Army of the Dead to invade the Seven Kingdoms after 8 millennia. In other words, Tyrion and Jon [[NiceJobBreakingItHero accidentally unleash]] the ZombieApocalypse on the world due to an idea that was doomed from the beginning.]]



'''You'd Expect''': That Petyr would [[spoiler: retreat to the Vale and prepare for the wights, keeping a representative in Winterfell who is loyal to him only. Sansa's a lost cause with her family back, Bran has demonstrated the ability to look into Petyr's past and his crimes (just look at Petyr's reaction when Bran says "Chaos is a ladder"), and Littlefinger prides himself on not getting trapped.]]\\

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'''You'd Expect''': That Petyr would [[spoiler: [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere retreat to the Vale Vale]] and prepare for the wights, keeping a representative in Winterfell who is loyal to him only. Sansa's a lost cause with her family back, Bran has demonstrated the ability to look into Petyr's past and his crimes (just look at Petyr's reaction when Bran says "Chaos is a ladder"), and Littlefinger prides himself on not getting trapped.]]\\
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* Jaime in the backstory. It turns out he had a very good reason to kill Aerys there and then, which he doesn't share with anyone until much later. [[spoiler: Namely, that the king had hidden caches of wildfire all across King's Landing and his FamousLastWords ("Burn them all") weren't just rambling about the Starks he was torturing, but him giving the order to blow up the whole city.]]\\

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* Jaime in the backstory. It turns out he had a very good reason to kill Aerys there and then, which he doesn't share with anyone until much later. [[spoiler: Namely, that the king had hidden caches of wildfire all across King's Landing and his FamousLastWords last words ("Burn them all") weren't just rambling about the Starks he was torturing, but him giving the order to blow up the whole city.]]\\
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'''You'd Expect''': That Petyr would [[spoiler: retreat to the Vale and prepare for the wights, keeping a representative in Winterfell. Sansa's a lost cause with her family back, Bran has demonstrated the ability to look into Petyr's past and his crimes (just look at Petyr's reaction when Bran says "Chaos is a ladder"), and Littlefinger prides himself on not getting trapped.]]\\
'''Instead''': Littlefinger [[spoiler: tries to turn Sansa and Arya against each other when he thinks he has an in with Sansa, completely forgetting that Bran can see the past. This fails completely because the last time Sansa and Arya had a serious disagreement, they paid the price with Lady, Nymeria, and Mycah the butcher's boy; now that they are grown women who have suffered, they aren't going to lose each other again. Even worse, Sansa reveals that she and Arya faked a feud so as to lure Littlefinger into a trap, and to try him for murder and treason.]]

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'''You'd Expect''': That Petyr would [[spoiler: retreat to the Vale and prepare for the wights, keeping a representative in Winterfell.Winterfell who is loyal to him only. Sansa's a lost cause with her family back, Bran has demonstrated the ability to look into Petyr's past and his crimes (just look at Petyr's reaction when Bran says "Chaos is a ladder"), and Littlefinger prides himself on not getting trapped.]]\\
'''Instead''': Littlefinger [[spoiler: tries to turn Sansa and Arya against each other when he thinks he has an in with Sansa, completely forgetting that Bran can see the past. This fails completely because the last time Sansa and Arya had a serious disagreement, they paid the price with Lady, Nymeria, and Mycah the butcher's boy; now that they are grown women who have suffered, they aren't going to lose each other again. Even worse, Sansa reveals that she and Arya faked a feud so as to lure again, after Bran busted Littlefinger into a trap, and (off-screen) to try him Sansa that Littlefinger is indeed manipulating the sisters for murder and treason.his own ends.]]



'''Instead''': [[spoiler: Littlefinger admits to murdering Lysa, but he claims it was to protect Sansa from her murderous aunt. So yes, he is guilty of murder, even if Sansa is complicit. His denials enter DiggingYourselfDeeper, and no one in the court supports him. Arya then executes him by slitting his throat.]]

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'''Instead''': [[spoiler: Littlefinger admits to murdering Lysa, but he claims it was to protect Sansa from her murderous aunt. So yes, he is guilty of murder, even if Sansa is complicit. His denials enter DiggingYourselfDeeper, and no one in the court supports him.him, and Littlefinger does ''nothing else'' to defend himself. Arya then executes him by slitting his throat.]]
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'''Instead''': He wastes the arrow on Wun-Wun [[StupidEvil (who was already riddled head to toe with arrows and at death's door regardless),]] thus costing him the element of surprise.\\

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'''Instead''': He wastes the arrow shot on Wun-Wun [[StupidEvil (who was already riddled head to toe with arrows and at death's door regardless),]] thus costing him the element of surprise.\\
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'''Instead''': He wastes the arrow on Wun-Wun [[StupidEvil (who was riddled head to toe with arrows and at death's door regardless),]] thus costing him the element of surprise.\\

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'''Instead''': He wastes the arrow on Wun-Wun [[StupidEvil (who was already riddled head to toe with arrows and at death's door regardless),]] thus costing him the element of surprise.\\
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'''The Result''': Jon grabs a nearby shield and blocks every arrow Ramsay fires at him from that point as he rushes towards him. Ramsay is [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beaten senseless,]] imprisoned, and ends up getting fed to his own dogs while he's still alive.

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'''The Result''': Jon grabs a nearby shield and blocks every arrow Ramsay fires at him from that point as he rushes towards him. Ramsay is [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beaten senseless,]] imprisoned, and [[spoiler: [[KarmicDeath ends up getting fed to his own dogs while he's still alive. alive,]] ending his reign of terror once and for all.]]
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'''You'd Expect''': For Ramsay to immediately put an arrow between Jon's eyes while his guard is down.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': For Ramsay to immediately put an arrow between in Jon's eyes head while his guard is down.\\
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* It's the long-awaited Battle of the Bastards! The morning of the battle, Ramsay presents Rickon to his brother Jon, showing that he's safe and sound, as promised.

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* It's the long-awaited Battle of the Bastards! The morning of the battle, Ramsay presents Rickon to his brother Jon, showing that he's safe and sound, as promised.\\



'''You'd Expect''': For Ramsay to immediately put an arrow between Jon's eyes while his guard is down.

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'''You'd Expect''': For Ramsay to immediately put an arrow between Jon's eyes while his guard is down.\\
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* It's the long-awaited Battle of the Bastards! The morning of the battle, Ramsay presents Rickon to his brother Jon, showing that he's safe and sound, as promised.
'''You'd Expect''': For Ramsay to give Jon's army one final ultimatum: surrender right now or Rickon dies. Even though they have already discussed negotiations the day before, there's still a ''very'' slim chance Jon might comply with Ramsay's demands.\\
'''Instead''': He plays a sadistic "running game" with Rickon involving live arrows, resulting in Rickon's death and Ramsay depriving himself of his last potential bargaining chip in case things turn sour.\\
'''The Result''':...Which is ''precisely'' what happens when Littlefinger and Sansa arrive with the Vale's support.\\
'''Admittedly''': Ramsay was almost certainly ''not'' expecting Littlefinger's interference, due to the latter's habit of [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder betraying one faction and aiding another whenever it benefits him.]]
* Not one to learn from his mistakes, Ramsay finds himself fleeing back to his fortress after the Vale start overwhelming his forces. He readies his bow in anticipation for Jon and [[OurGiantsAreBigger Wun-Wun]] to come crashing through the castle doors.\\
'''You'd Expect''': For Ramsay to immediately put an arrow between Jon's eyes while his guard is down.
'''Instead''': He wastes the arrow on Wun-Wun [[StupidEvil (who was riddled head to toe with arrows and at death's door regardless),]] thus costing him the element of surprise.\\
'''The Result''': Jon grabs a nearby shield and blocks every arrow Ramsay fires at him from that point as he rushes towards him. Ramsay is [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beaten senseless,]] imprisoned, and ends up getting fed to his own dogs while he's still alive.
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* After the duel between the Mountain and Oberyn, in which [[spoiler:Oberyn had his head crushed by the Mountain, though not before severly poisoning him beforehand]], Oberyn's lover Ellaria Sand demands that the Martells execute their hostage Myrcella Lannister in revenge. She is supported by the Snad Snakes, three martially-inclined bastard daughters of Oberyn, but Prince Doran refuses her demand, not wanting to stoop to the level of the Lannisters and murder children.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Doran would keep a close eye on Myrcella, Ellaria and the Sand Snakes, in order to prevent any hostile schemes from being carried out. At the same time, he could perhaps demand the body and/or head of Gregor Clegane, in the hope that Ellaria can be satisfied with seeing [[spoiler:her lover's killer]]. Even if [[spoiler:Oberyn died in a legally sanctioned duel]], Doran would arguably be well within his rights to demand such a thing, considering Gregor openly admitted to [[spoiler:raping and murdering his sister Elia, as well as murdering his niece and nephew]].\\
'''Instead''': Despite stressing a need to protect Myrcella, the security detail around her [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy is weak enough]] to not only enable Bronn and Jaime Lannister to nearly kidnap her, but allow the Sand Snakes to try and do the same under Ellaria's orders. Both sides are even able to fight with each other for about a minute before Doran's guards intervene.\\

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* After the duel between the Mountain and Oberyn, in which [[spoiler:Oberyn had his head crushed by the Mountain, though not before severly severely poisoning him beforehand]], Oberyn's lover Ellaria Sand demands that the Martells execute their hostage Myrcella Lannister in revenge. She is supported by the Snad Sand Snakes, three martially-inclined bastard daughters of Oberyn, but Prince Doran refuses her demand, not wanting to stoop to the level of the Lannisters and murder children.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Doran would keep a close eye on Myrcella, Ellaria and the Sand Snakes, in order to prevent any hostile schemes from being carried out. At the same time, he could perhaps demand the body and/or head of Gregor Clegane, in the hope that Ellaria can be satisfied with seeing [[spoiler:her lover's killer]]. Even if [[spoiler:Oberyn died in a legally sanctioned duel]], Doran would arguably be well within his rights to demand such a thing, considering Gregor openly admitted to [[spoiler:raping and murdering his sister Elia, as well as murdering his niece and nephew]]. It also doesn't hurt that [[spoiler:Gregor is allegedly dying from Oberyn's poison around this time]], meaning the Lannisters arguably have little reason to refuse here.\\
'''Instead''': Despite Doran stressing a need to protect Myrcella, the security detail around her [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy is weak enough]] to not only enable Bronn and Jaime Lannister to nearly kidnap her, but allow the Sand Snakes to try and do the same under Ellaria's orders. Both sides are even able to fight with each other for about a minute before Doran's guards intervene.\\

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* Littlefinger has [[spoiler: set his sights on Sansa now that Cat is dead, and spirits her away to the Vale. After her aunt tries to kill her, if not for Petyr's interference, Sansa decides to put her trust in Littelfinger. As she tells him, he's the only person who has tried to keep her alive and safe, apart from Tyrion who has been locked up. Joffrey has abused her, Cersei has bullied her, and Lysa has attempted to murder her. The Tyrells and Baratheons have failed to offer any help.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': For Littlefinger to do what he did in the books: [[spoiler: keep Sansa at his side in the vale and out of the game for as long as he can, while educating her in its fine arts. That way he has a successor, and the perfect ReplacementGoldfish for Cat.]]\\
'''Instead''': Littlefinger [[spoiler:sells Sansa in marriage to Ramsay Snow. Ramsay proceeds to lock her up, rape her, and destroy any hope she has of escaping. While Sansa escapes thanks to a regretful Theon "Reek" Greyjoy, she refuses to trust Littlefinger and says that he was either an idiot for not knowing about Ramsay being a monster or her enemy for knowing and hatching the scheme anyway. While she reluctantly accepts his army in the subsequent battle against Ramsay, his chances of being with Sansa are shot with Jon as her new ally, and with her newfound capacity for cruelty.]]

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* Littlefinger has [[spoiler: set his sights on Sansa now that [[spoiler: Cat is dead, dead]], and spirits her away to the Vale. After her aunt tries to kill her, nearly kills her if not for Petyr's interference, Sansa decides to put her trust in Littelfinger.Littlefinger. As she tells him, he's the only person who has tried to keep her alive and safe, apart from Tyrion who has been locked up. Joffrey has abused her, Cersei has bullied her, and Lysa has attempted to murder her. The her, and the Tyrells and Baratheons have failed to offer any help.\\
'''You'd Expect''': For Littlefinger to do what he did in the books: keep Sansa at his side in the Vale and out of the game for as long as he can, while educating her in its fine arts. That way he has a successor, and the perfect ReplacementGoldfish for [[spoiler: Cat.
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'''You'd Expect''': For Littlefinger to do what he did in the books: [[spoiler: keep Sansa at his side in the vale and out of the game for as long as he can, while educating her in its fine arts. That way he has a successor, and the perfect ReplacementGoldfish for Cat.]]\\
'''Instead''': Littlefinger [[spoiler:sells sells Sansa in marriage to Ramsay Snow. Snow, an AxCrazy {{Sadist}} with no use for a wife beyond using her as yet another torture victim. Ramsay proceeds to lock her Sansa up, rape her, and destroy any hope she has of escaping. escaping.\\
'''The Result''':
While Sansa escapes thanks to [[spoiler: a regretful Theon "Reek" Greyjoy, Greyjoy]], she refuses to trust Littlefinger and says Littlefinger, saying that he was either an idiot for not knowing about Ramsay being a monster monster, or her enemy for knowing and hatching the scheme anyway. While she reluctantly accepts his army in the subsequent battle against Ramsay, his chances of being with Sansa are shot with Jon as her new ally, and with her newfound capacity for cruelty.]]cruelty. And when Sansa eventually [[spoiler: turns on him in Season 7, she cites him selling her to Ramsay as one of her reasons]].

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* After the duel between the Mountain and Oberyn, Ellaria Sand is furious and demanding that [[spoiler: the Martells execute their hostage Myrcella Lannister in revenge. Doran Martell refuses because the Martells won't stoop to the levels of the Lannisters and murder children.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': That to compensate Ellaria that the Martells would demand compensation for [[spoiler: the deaths of many of their family members and the body of Gregor Clegane, and make an example of it. That way she is satisfied with seeing her lover's killer. Ellaria in the books receives Gregor's head. Also that Doran would keep Ellaria from Myrcella.]]\\
'''Instead''': Doran opts for {{Forgiveness}} and negotiates with Jaime to let [[spoiler: Myrcella travel with her betrothed, Trystane Martell, and tries to give Ellaria a second chance. This is despite the fact that she attempted to kill a little girl under their protection. She murders Myrcella with poisonous lipstick, then murders Doran and Trystane to take control of their kingdom. As of season seven, Ellaria's sole Lannister casualty is Myrcella, whose death only makes Cersei ''more'' dangerous.]]\\
'''The Result''': Cersei spends years [[spoiler: plotting revenge for Myrcella, whom she considers the only good thing in her world, a truly innocent child that never betrayed her. Qyburn helps her find the poison that was used on Myrcella, as well as the antidote. She finally gets her chance when Euron Greyjoy hands over a captive Ellaria and her sole surviving daughter Tyene. Cersei locks them up, gags them, and poisons Tyene the same way that Ellaria poisoned Myrcella. She promises that Ellaria will watch her daughter die, unable to comfort Tyene in her last moments, and unable to perish in turn because Cersei will force Ellaria to look on the corpse for the rest of her days and keep her from starving. Yeah, not a good way for the last of the Martells to go]].

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* After the duel between the Mountain and Oberyn, in which [[spoiler:Oberyn had his head crushed by the Mountain, though not before severly poisoning him beforehand]], Oberyn's lover Ellaria Sand is furious and demanding demands that [[spoiler: the Martells execute their hostage Myrcella Lannister in revenge. She is supported by the Snad Snakes, three martially-inclined bastard daughters of Oberyn, but Prince Doran Martell refuses because the Martells won't her demand, not wanting to stoop to the levels level of the Lannisters and murder children.]]\\
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'''You'd Expect''': That to compensate Doran would keep a close eye on Myrcella, Ellaria that and the Martells would Sand Snakes, in order to prevent any hostile schemes from being carried out. At the same time, he could perhaps demand compensation for [[spoiler: the deaths of many of their family members and the body and/or head of Gregor Clegane, and make an example of it. That way she is in the hope that Ellaria can be satisfied with seeing her [[spoiler:her lover's killer. Ellaria killer]]. Even if [[spoiler:Oberyn died in the books receives Gregor's head. Also that a legally sanctioned duel]], Doran would keep Ellaria from Myrcella.]]\\
arguably be well within his rights to demand such a thing, considering Gregor openly admitted to [[spoiler:raping and murdering his sister Elia, as well as murdering his niece and nephew]].\\
'''Instead''': Despite stressing a need to protect Myrcella, the security detail around her [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy is weak enough]] to not only enable Bronn and Jaime Lannister to nearly kidnap her, but allow the Sand Snakes to try and do the same under Ellaria's orders. Both sides are even able to fight with each other for about a minute before Doran's guards intervene.\\
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Doran opts for {{Forgiveness}} and negotiates with Jaime to let [[spoiler: Myrcella travel with her betrothed, Trystane Martell, and tries to give Ellaria and the Sand Snakes a second chance. This is chance, despite the fact that she they attempted to kill a little girl under their protection. She murders Myrcella with poisonous lipstick, then murders Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are subsequently able to [[spoiler:murder Myrcella, Doran and Trystane to take Trystane, taking control of their kingdom. Dorne in the process]]. As of season seven, Ellaria's sole Lannister casualty is Myrcella, [[spoiler:Myrcella]], whose death only makes Cersei ''more'' dangerous.]]\\
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'''The Result''': The Martells suffer a similar fate to the Starks, after Cersei spends years [[spoiler: plotting revenge for Myrcella, whom she considers the only good thing in her world, a truly innocent child that never betrayed her. Qyburn helps her find the poison that was used on Myrcella, as well as the antidote. She finally gets her chance when Euron Greyjoy hands over a captive Ellaria and her sole surviving daughter Tyene. Cersei locks them up, gags them, and poisons Tyene the same way that Ellaria poisoned Myrcella. She promises that Ellaria will watch her daughter die, unable to comfort Tyene in her last moments, and unable to perish in turn because Cersei will force Ellaria to look on the corpse for the rest of her days and keep her from starving. Yeah, not a good way for the last of the Martells to go]].
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This is really more a case of Tommen literally not knowing any better, what with his upbringing turning him into an Extreme Doormat. Not to mention that at the very least, actions that deprive Cersei of power and influence are hardly 100% idiotic.


* The High Sparrow has imprisoned both Tommen's wife (the current queen) and his mother.\\
'''You'd expect''': King Tommen to realize that he's losing control of the capital city to the High Sparrow and either take action himself or at least have someone take action in his name to restore his authority.\\
'''Instead''': He consistently takes actions calculated to give the High Sparrow more power and sabotages the attempts by his mother, uncle, and father-in-law to put and end to the High Sparrow's reign until his mother [[spoiler: forcefully elimates the entire Faith Militant (and most of the Tyrell family]].
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'''Also, You'd expect:''' That Tywin, who is a good judge of character, would keep an eye on the way this daughter raises the future heir to the throne.\\

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'''Also, You'd expect:''' '''You'd Also Expect:''' That Tywin, who is a good judge of character, would keep an eye on the way this daughter raises the future heir to the throne.\\



'''As a result:''' He initially suspects treason when Joffrey commits blunder after blunder. To his credit, he does realize the truth eventually and tries to train Tommen himself.
'''You'd also expect:''' That Tywin would understand that in order for his children to carry out and expand his legacy, they must feel like they own it and are part of it.\\
'''Instead:''' He reminds them at every turn that they are nothing but pawns for him to fulfill his own ambition and should expect no rewards. He also rubs their failures in their faces and never fails to remind Tyrion how much he hates him and how nit killing him in his crib was a great sacrifice for Tywin.\\

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'''As a result:''' He initially suspects treason when Joffrey commits blunder after blunder. To his credit, he does realize the truth eventually and tries to train Tommen himself.
himself, but...well, see below.\\
'''You'd also expect:''' Also Expect:''' That Tywin would understand that in order for his children to carry out and expand his legacy, they must feel like they own it and are part of it.\\
'''Instead:''' He reminds them at every turn that they are nothing but pawns for him to fulfill his own ambition and should expect no rewards. He also rubs their failures in their faces and never fails to remind Tyrion how much he hates him him, [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency and how nit not killing him in his crib was a great sacrifice for Tywin.Tywin]].\\
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'''Instead:''' Robb and Talisa get married, Robb ignoring Catelyn when she urges him not to do something so reckless for the sake of love - which is sound advice here in spite of her hypocrisy - simply because she herself has acted recklessly. He also doesn't consider trying to make amends with House Frey; it might not have helped, but it could hardly have made things worse.\\

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'''Instead:''' Robb and Talisa get married, Robb ignoring Catelyn when she urges him not to do something so reckless for the sake of love - which is sound advice here in spite of her hypocrisy - simply because she herself has acted recklessly. He also doesn't consider trying to make amends with House Frey; Frey until he has no other option (see below); it might not have helped, but it could hardly have made things worse.\\
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* Robb has broken a marriage vow he made with Walder Frey and married Talisa instead. While the stupidity of that decision has been addressed above, he later needs to make amends with Walder and beg for troop support when the Karstarks leave. To that end, Edmure, Lord of the Riverlands, agrees to marry one of Walder's daughters instead of Robb.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Robb would leave Talisa behind when attending the wedding. Bringing his new wife and showing her off to the person he broke a marriage vow with would be a slap in the face to anyone, much less someone as famously petty and vindictive as Walder Frey. Even if Robb is too young and naïve to understand this, his more experienced advisers like Catelyn should drive home what a bad idea this is.\\
'''Instead:''' Robb brings his pregnant wife to the Red Wedding, where she gets a fatal case of sword-in-belly. While the slaughter was planned ahead of time would have happened either way, Talisa and their unborn child might have been spared had Robb shown a little bit of common sense.
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* Speaking of Ramsay, he's been a BastardBoyfriend husband [[spoiler:to Sansa, who entered the wedding willingly.]] Roose and Walda tolerate this, but know it's bad for business.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Ramsay would be pragmatic enough to [[spoiler:keep Sansa alive for the duration of their marriage. As the heiress to the North, she's more valuable as a living figure. People remember Ned as a BenevolentBoss and are itching to rebel]].\\
'''Instead''': Ramsay's girlfriend reveals to Theon that [[spoiler:as soon as Sansa bears a son, her life is forfeit. Theon has no reason to believe this is another of the Bolton mind-games]].\\
'''The Result''': It ends up being ''this'' and not anything else that snaps Theon's brainwashing. He kills said girlfriend, [[spoiler:busts Sansa out, and provides her with the means to seek sanctuary at the Watch. Roose has to spell out how idiotic this was. To add insult to injury, Jon finds out about the details and is determined to murder Ramsay with his bare hands at the next opportunity. He only doesn't because Sansa indicates she wants to deliver the final blow]].


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* Ramsay has taken over House Bolton. He wants Sansa back both to own the North and because he's a SoreLoser. By some luck for him, the Umbers deliver Rickon Stark to him as a hostage. Ramsay knows that Sansa went to the Watch to get help from her bastard brother, Jon Snow.\\
'''You'd Expect''': He would ask for an alliance with the Watch and hint about how he wants to solidify the North. The whole point of having a hostage is to negotiate.\\
'''Instead''': He gives a SadisticChoice: return Sansa in exchange for Rickon's life and promising to return Sansa to that life, or he'll wipe out everyone and rape Sansa anyway.\\
'''Predictably''': When Sansa convinces Jon that Ramsay already has Rickon, he gets the support of the Wildlings to go to war since Ramsay threatened them. Jon also is prepared to not negotiate.
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'''Instead:''' Robb and Talisa get married, Robb ignoring Catelyn when she urges him not to do something so reckless for the sake of love - which is sound advice here in spite of her hypocrisy - simply because she herself has acted recklessly.\\

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'''Instead:''' Robb and Talisa get married, Robb ignoring Catelyn when she urges him not to do something so reckless for the sake of love - which is sound advice here in spite of her hypocrisy - simply because she herself has acted recklessly. He also doesn't consider trying to make amends with House Frey; it might not have helped, but it could hardly have made things worse.\\
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'''You'd also expect:''' That Tywin would understand that in order for his children to carry out and expand his legacy, they must feel like they own it and are part of it.\\
'''Instead:''' He reminds them at every turn that they are nothing but pawns for him to fulfill his own ambition and should expect no rewards. He also rubs their failures in their faces and never fails to remind Tyrion how much he hates him and how nit killing him in his crib was a great sacrifice for Tywin.\\
'''As a result:''' All three of Tywin's children are completely alienated from his vision for House Lannister. Jaime outright refuses to be heir, Cersei vows to actively ruin Tywin's legacy if he keeps trying to control her children, and his only worthy successor when it comes to politics, Tyrion, kills him in revenge for his own staged KangarooCourt. House Lannister takes as little as a few years after Tywin's death to collapse from the continent's greatest house to nothing.
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'''Result''': Jaime and Brienne's trip to King's Landing is fraught with peril, with Jaime nearly escaping being one of the ''better'' things that happens during it. And when they do reach the end of their journey, Brienne finds himself in no position to leave with Sansa now that she's been married to Tyrion Lannister, not that she had any leverage to begin with. Robb meanwhile is furious with his mother for going behind his back in such a foolish way, which kicks off a series of DisasterDominoes that ends with the Red Wedding, and the Northern cause being all but destroyed for two seasons.

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'''Result''': Jaime and Brienne's trip to King's Landing is fraught with peril, with Jaime nearly escaping being one of the ''better'' things that happens during it. And when they do reach the end of their journey, Brienne finds himself herself in no position to leave with Sansa now that she's been married to Tyrion Lannister, not that she had any leverage to begin with. Robb meanwhile is furious with his mother for going behind his back in such a foolish way, which kicks off a series of DisasterDominoes that ends with the Red Wedding, and the Northern cause being all but destroyed for two seasons.

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'''Instead''': he seems to have ignored this aspect completely, which allows Cersei to raise Joffrey as a petulant psychopath. As a result, he initially suspects treason when Foffrey commits blunder after blunder. To his credit, he does realize the truth eventually and tries to train Tommen himself.

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'''Instead:''' Caitlyn arrests Tyrion Lannister and takes him to her sister instead of returning home.

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'''Instead:''' Caitlyn arrests Tyrion Lannister and takes him to her sister instead of returning home.\\
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'''You'd expect:''' Caitlyn to do so.

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'''You'd expect:''' Caitlyn to do so.\\

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