History Webvideo / SonicDissected

* MeaninglessMeaningfulWords: The plot of games like DissidiaFinalFantasy and KingdomHearts annoy Roger because he feels like they employ symbolism and PurpleProse just for the sake of it without any actual depth or meaning.

* MeaninglessMeaningfulWords: The plot of games like DissidiaFinalFantasy and KingdomHearts annoy him because he feels like they employ symbolism and PurpleProse just for the sake of it without any actual depth or meaning.

* Chapter 6: Colorful art design. Roger explains his issues with the cutscenes of SonicColors, and how lifeless they feel. Roger, despite not being the best animator or artist, talks about how he feels Sonic Colors [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot loses its opportunity to play with the background.]]

* HypocriticalHumor: Roger has issues with the animation of SonicColors. Luke of course, reacts the best way about it

* LazyArtist: Discussed. Roger, as the “Bad Animator” he is, notices when an good animator is bored out of his mind, and knows that the most boring scenes to animate are talking scenes, when nothing is happening. This is the reason why he tends to put characters interacting with the background on his personal animations. Since SonicColors's cutscenes are mostly talking, he feels the animators are not having the opportunity to have fun.

* PacingProblems: Luke talks about this with the storytelling rules, and how ''SonicColors'' wastes its time with bad jokes.

--> '''Luke''': [[SonicRiders So you are from the Babylon Rogues]], a tribe of people who travelled for several generations in becoming the ultimate Air Riders, and being your only purpose and goal in the entire world. Well, sucks to be you, Sonic never touched an Air Board before, randomly grabs one, and is as good as the champion of the world in 30 seconds!

* StrawCharacter: Luke takes this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted, however, [[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also has some very good opinions that Roger agrees with]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him say that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].

* XmeetsY: Rogers describes Amy as the love child of WesternAnimation/MinnieMouse and [[{{Misery}} Annie Wilkes]].

** Luke noticed how Eggman actually managed to create Robotnikland/Eggmanland, his life goal in the series in SonicUnleashed, only for no one, not even Eggman himself to notice, [[OrcusOnHisThrone only for him to sit around his chair and complain.]]

* ActionPrologue: Praised with VideoGame/SonicAdventure2, disliked it with VideoGame/SonicUnleashed. For the role reversal and mystery tone and how the plot carefully increases in the first, and how meaningless and without consequences is on the latter. While in the first game we have Sonic arrested, we later see him in jail, moon gets destroyed and people reacting and commenting about it. In Unleashed, Eggman just jokes about Sonic turning into a werehog, and Sonic hardly reacts to the destruction of the planet. It doesn’t help that after all the drama, the next scene is Chip having an orgasm with the chocolate ice cream or laughing like idiots.

* BerserkButton: Luke nearly loses it in episode 2 over the cartoon sound effects used in VideoGame/SonicUnleashed.

* CluelessAesop: Or more specifically, Clueless Theme. Roger doesn’t understand what VideoGame/SonicUnleashed is trying to say, compared with VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 who went for the forgiveness route.

** Roger is actually quite shocked this trope is averted with SonicUnleashed, despite the world getting destroyed, Sonic suffering a painful transformation, and people being mind controlled.

* InfoDump: SonicUnleashed is guilty of this, repeating things over and over, hurting the pacing of the story, and wasting Luke's time...and he hates that.

* LighterAndSofter: Discussed. Roger nicknamed the era starting from ''Videogame/SonicUnleashed'' to ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'' as “Adventures of Sonic the talking squirrel”, saying that while the gameplay is fine, they recall the plot as “Dumb Cartoon stories”

* PacingProblems: Luke talks about this with the storytelling rules, and how SonicColors wastes its time with bad jokes.

* PluckyComicRelief: Luke, being pissed, complains about SonicUnleashed not knowing how to use this trope with Chip.

* ShowDontTell: Luke complains about SonicUnleashed's overuse of explaining stuff, and comparing it to VideoGame/SonicAdventure's scenes with Chaos.

* SuddenlyShouting: Luke is prone to this. He got out of the building in chapter 5 when SonicUnleashed used [[WackySoundEffect Cartoon Sound Effects]].

* TrialAndErrorGameplay: Discussed by Luke, Roger & Theory when they were talking about VideoGame/SonicUnleashed’s level design.

-->[[SonicStorybookSeries You are one of the Knights of the Round Table]], you dedicated your life in becoming the perfect knight. Well, Sonic just stumbles in, waves vaguely with his sword for 5 minutes and immediately gives you lectures about how you could be a much better knight.

** Luke notes that SonicCd nonstanding, Amy was actually quite complex during the VideoGame/SonicAdventure games, with her focus on Sonic was not because she wanted to marry him but because she wanted to get out of her boring life, to do the right thing and she admired Sonic for being an ActionHero and wanted him to respect her. She even went against Sonic to protect her robot friend. Even during VideoGame/SonicShuffle which is [[CanonDiscontinuity not canon]] but was written before VideoGame/SonicAdventure2, Amy says “Forget about Sonic, look at my clothes!”,something that surprised Roger. During VideoGame/SonicAdventure2, which is the game that started the idea of her being in love with Sonic, Luke suggested that this is an act to make herself more comfortable around danger, and make Sonic believe she is not intimidated by the adventure.

--> '''Sonic,to Sir Gawain''': "Is that the best that chivalry of yours can do?"
--> '''Roger''': Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go in the corner! {{JESUS}} Creator/{{CHUCK NORRIS}} [[SonicTheHedgehog SONIC]] will save the day!

* XmeetsY: Rogers describes Amy as the love child of MinnieMouse and [[{{Misery}} Annie Wilkes]].

* DarkerAndEdgier: Discussed, and parodied in episode 2 with the reasons for why VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 was good.
-->'''Some kid with an annoying voice''':Oh! Because of Shadow, and explosions, and people die, and government conspiracies and…!"
-->'''Luke''': No, no, that’s not what makes it good. [[NoExceptYes Ok, maybe a little…]]

--> '''Luke''': “This is not how comic relief characters work! They’re supposed to relieve tension after scary moments, not during them! Like, [[{{Babar}} this is a happy cartoon about talking elephants and stuff]], but when this guy tries to kill them, the comic relief characters are all scared and stuff. This make the kids realize “Huh, even the funny moment are scary” This scene is interesting, but put the humor during those scenes, and you dumb them down!”

* RunningGag: Every time [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] is mentioned, Luke will start to rant about it's quality. It came to a point where he needed a recording machine to do his rants.

The series was launched in 2012, created and hosted by Roger van der Weide (of Sonic in Minutes, WebAnimation/KingdumbHearts and WebAnimation/InternationalMoronPatrol fame) and co-hosted by Luke the Fox (real name Luke Wholey), A British Sonic fancharacter who also voices in some of Roger’s animations. They also have a third guy, Captain Theory (voiced by [=SalaComMander=]) who would sometimes pop in and explain a hypothesis on why certain things in Sonic work that way or why Sega/Sonic Team have done it.

* GunsAndGunplayTropes: Discussed. Roger doesn’t seem to understand what’s the big deal with Sonic using a gun, since other Cartoon characters use weapons, like JazzJackrabbit, [[ComicBook/BuckyOHareAndTheToadWars Bucky O'Hare]], or BikerMiceFromMars.

--> '''Roger''': Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go in the corner! {{JESUS}} {{CHUCK NORRIS}} [[SonictheHedgehog SONIC]] will save the day!

[[folder:Episodes 5 to 9]]

* Chapter 9: Identity Crisis

!!Episode's 3 & 4

Sonic Dissected is a web series that takes an analytic look at the Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog franchise, be it the games, animations or anything Sonic related that gets announced, (like ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom'') and discusses them about its narrative, it’s flaws, its characters and gameplay and how we can improve them and see these games and characters from another point of view. The Sonic series can be quite controversial and are not there to just criticize the games or its audience. They just want to give you a better and deeper understanding of the games from a narrative perspective as well as to inform and educate you about them.

The series was launched in 2012, created and hosted by Roger Weide (of Sonic in Minutes, WebAnimation/KingdumbHearts and I.M.P fame) and co-hosted by Luke the Fox (real name Luke Wholey), A British Sonic fancharacter who also voices in some of Roger’s animations. They also have a third guy, Captain Theory (voiced by [=SalaComMander=]) who would sometimes pop in and explain a hypothesis on why certain things in Sonic work that way or why Sega/Sonic Team have done it.

--> '''Luke''':That describes a [[TakeThatAudience good chunk of Youtube]]

--> '''Luke''': Bah!,[[GrumpyOldMan everything was better in my day]] when the NES was released!
* TheProfessor: Both Roger & Luke act as Professors in the Studies of Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog. As the main host, Roger gives us the most information and his own views on the franchise.

* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: Throughout the series, the Royal Society suddenly burns down, gets run over by tanks and then is rebuilt as Royal Society 2.0, which neither Roger or Luke notice about.

* GentlemanAndAScholar: Both Roger and Luke resemble very sophisticated Highbrow Gentleman..that like to talk about Sonic Games.

* StrawCharacter: Luke takes this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted, however,[[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also has some very good opinions that Roger agrees with.]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him say that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].

** The Characters are badly written.

* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Frobman is probably this as he performs unprofessional surgery on Luke using a Dagger. Apparantly he is filling in for his brother..who’s a [[OpenHeartDentistry Dentist]].

* QuintessentialBritishGentleman: Luke is basically this. The theme of Dissected is set in a charming stereotypical British setting with the Hosts & Guests dressed in early 1900 outfits.

* SickEpisode: There is an arc where the episodes are set in a Hospital ward due to Luke’s accident in ‘Unleashed again’

* StrawCharacter: Luke takes this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted,however,[[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also has some very good opinions that Roger agrees with.]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him say that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].

* SpecialGuest: A random guest would sometimes pop in to say their piece on a certain Sonic Game,Or someone to fill in for Luke to talk about other games and subjects with Roger.

* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: Throughout the series, the Royal Society suddenly burns down, gets run over by Tanks and then is rebuilt as Royal Society 2.0, which neither Roger or Luke notice about.

-->''' Luke''': There is momentum.It's going up and down, up and down, like a roller coaster. Many Sonic games have this thing going on where you beat a level, and you get a scene in a room explaining things, then a level, [[InfoDump more explaining]], [[RuleOfThree level]], [[AsYouKnow more explaining]], they`re always explaining things. In VideoGame/SonicAdventure2, things happen, there is a balance, between action and talking in a story.Even the talking is more balanced.They are not only explaining things, they are not only boasting on how awesome they are, [[TheyReallyDoLoveEachOther they have a little heart to heart moment]],Friendly banter, all sorts of conversations.
* ActionPrologue: Praised with VideoGame/SonicAdventure2, disliked it with VideoGame/SonicUnleashed. For the role reversal and mystery tone and how the plot carefully increases in the first, and how meaningless and without consequences is on the latter. While in the first game we have Sonic arrested, we later see him in jail, moon gets destroyed and people reacting and commenting about it. In unleashed, Eggman just jokes about Sonic turning into a werehog, and Sonic hardly reacts to the destruction of the planet. It doesn’t help that after all the drama, the next scene is Chip having an orgasm with the chocolate ice cream or laughing like idiots.

* {{Anticlimax}}: Demonstrating the writing of Pontac & Graff In 'Pontac & Graff Bingo', Steph appears that she is about to Murder Roger then she disappears and [[spoiler:Luke appears at the end with no explanation given.]]

* CaptainObvious: The reason they didn't talk about Videogame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 for a long time, is that most of the problems were already talked about by other reviewers.And even then, it was pointless to complain. Roger compared this with a train competition, with the judges dissecting how the trains worked, but in the case of 2006, it would be a train that is a giant mess that everyone can notice.

* CharacterDevelopment: A character arc more specifically, but Luke talks about Amy's development, starting from a DamselInDistress, to a girl who wanted to return to adventure and become part of the heroes gang,learning her place in the team and ending with her speech to Shadow who ultimately, saves the world. However due to {{flanderization}} the next time we see her,she is trying to force Sonic to marry her.

--> '''Luke''': She is a comic relief character, but her comedy doesn’t come from the fact she is an insane psychopath that wants to marry Sonic, the jokes come from [[WideEyedIdealist her childlike assumptions of the world at stage. ]] While Sonic is stopping monsters and robots, she is worried more about one little bird. This is funny, but also important.

--> '''Roger''': Sonic get's down a few times, says a cocky one liner, and if earned, [[MomentOfAwesome is awesome]]. If Sonic is incredible from start to finish, then it's less “exciting adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog” and more like “Sonic The Asshole beats helpless robots down". Sonic needs to be scared every now and then to give a proper story momentum.
** He also makes the observation that in the newer games,every time Sonic is being shown wounded in battle, being in love, or sharing his feelings, is always with the [[OneShotCharacter character of the week, who doesn’t appear in later games]], [[DemotedToExtra and never with the main cast.]] If a villain even manages to defeat him, it's always through cheating, because the if the heavens don’t allow Sonic to be properly beaten and allow him to overcome danger, then the conflict is boring.

** Although Roger usually discusses his grievances with certain aspect of Sonic calmly, the writing of Pontacc and Graff tends to get his dander up.

--> '''Roger:''' "Since the classic Sonic games, you had Sonic. Awesome, fast, more perfect, whatever. Then you add Tails,in order to give him a purpose in the story, then you need unique character elements. Tails is a smart, down to earth guy, likes technical stuff, then that means Sonic must lack at this element. So that means he's bad at techno stuff for his own good. If Sonic was also good at technology and also down to earth, then Tails would be pointless. Now add more characters, Knuckles and Amy, and you must add elements that Sonic and Tails have. Knuckles is a strong, noble savage, Amy is a social person. Balance. Every quality Sonic's friends have, is a flaw Sonic should have."

** How and why Sonic is turned into a werehog is never fully resolved, it just happens.

* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: “The first ElephantInTheRoom” in the Sonic franchise. Roger believes this is the wrong complaint, saying that it is not that Sonic has too many characters. After all, other videogames franchises have even more characters.It's issues are more complex than simply that:
** When the game [[ButThouMust forces you to play]] [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks the same levels with minor changes]], you will alienate the player. Luke names SonicHeroes.
** [[UnexpectedGameplayChange When the game abruptly changes its style]] to something different. Luke names [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] with this poor gimmick, with an image from the infamous ball level with Silver.