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* LimitedAnimation: Discussed. Roger mentions that, despite the very LimitedAnimation of VideoGame/SonicAdventure, [[TropesAreNotBad the game uses interesting environments and good use of the camera, and makes the story work, especially for its time.]]

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* LimitedAnimation: Discussed. Roger mentions that, despite the very LimitedAnimation of VideoGame/SonicAdventure, [[TropesAreNotBad [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools the game uses interesting environments and good use of the camera, and makes the story work, especially for its time.]]


--> '''Roger''': Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go in the corner! UsefulNotes/{{JESUS}} Creator/{{CHUCK NORRIS}} [[SonicTheHedgehog SONIC]] will save the day!

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--> '''Roger''': Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go in the corner! UsefulNotes/{{JESUS}} Creator/{{CHUCK NORRIS}} [[SonicTheHedgehog [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog SONIC]] will save the day!


* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: “The first ElephantInTheRoom” in the Sonic franchise. Roger believes this is the wrong complaint, saying that it is not that Sonic has too many characters. After all, other videogames franchises have even more characters. It's issues are more complex than simply that:
** When the game [[ButThouMust forces you to play]] [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks the same levels with minor changes]], you will alienate the player. Luke names ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes''.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: “The first ElephantInTheRoom” in the Sonic franchise. Roger believes this is the wrong complaint, saying that it is not that Sonic has too many characters. After all, other videogames video games franchises have even more characters. It's issues are more complex than simply that:
** When the game [[ButThouMust forces you to play]] [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks the same levels with minor changes]], you will alienate the player. Luke names ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes''.


--> '''Roger, with an annoying voice:''' I heard some funny guy on {{Youtube}} make a joke about Sonic having too many characters and me, having no personality or basic thoughts on my own, brainlessly repeat what they said.

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--> '''Roger, with an annoying voice:''' I heard some funny guy on {{Youtube}} Website/YouTube make a joke about Sonic having too many characters and me, having no personality or basic thoughts on my own, brainlessly repeat what they said.


* PacingProblems: Luke talks about this with the storytelling rules, and how ''VideoGame/SonicColors'' wastes its time with bad jokes.
--> '''Luke''': Storytelling lesson 1: Don’t waste my time!


* MeaninglessMeaningfulWords: The plot of games like DissidiaFinalFantasy and Franchise/KingdomHearts annoy Roger because he feels like they employ symbolism and PurpleProse just for the sake of it without any actual depth or meaning.

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* MeaninglessMeaningfulWords: The plot of games like DissidiaFinalFantasy ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'' and Franchise/KingdomHearts annoy Roger because he feels like they employ symbolism and PurpleProse just for the sake of it without any actual depth or meaning.


* ContemplateOurNavels: In his dissection of DissidiaFinalFantasy, Roger muses that all of the PurpleProse and symbolism thrown around in the narrative are just there for emo teenagers to have something to feel profound for understanding.(Also so that hormone addled teenage girls can squee over all the [[HoYay homosexual undertones.]])

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* ContemplateOurNavels: In his dissection of DissidiaFinalFantasy, ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'', Roger muses that all of the PurpleProse and symbolism thrown around in the narrative are just there for emo teenagers to have something to feel profound for understanding.(Also so that hormone addled teenage girls can squee over all the [[HoYay homosexual undertones.]])


--> '''Roger''': Sonic gets down a few times, says a cocky one liner, and if earned, [[MomentOfAwesome is awesome]]. If Sonic is incredible from start to finish, then it's less “exciting adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog” and more like “Sonic The Asshole beats helpless robots down". Sonic needs to be scared every now and then to give a proper story momentum.

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--> '''Roger''': Sonic gets down a few times, says a cocky one liner, and if earned, [[MomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome is awesome]]. If Sonic is incredible from start to finish, then it's less “exciting adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog” and more like “Sonic The Asshole beats helpless robots down". Sonic needs to be scared every now and then to give a proper story momentum.


* MeaninglessMeaningfulWords: The plot of games like DissidiaFinalFantasy and KingdomHearts annoy Roger because he feels like they employ symbolism and PurpleProse just for the sake of it without any actual depth or meaning.

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* MeaninglessMeaningfulWords: The plot of games like DissidiaFinalFantasy and KingdomHearts Franchise/KingdomHearts annoy Roger because he feels like they employ symbolism and PurpleProse just for the sake of it without any actual depth or meaning.


* MeaninglessMeaningfulWords: The plot of games like DissidiaFinalFantasy and KingdomHearts annoy him because he feels like they employ symbolism and PurpleProse just for the sake of it without any actual depth or meaning.

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* MeaninglessMeaningfulWords: The plot of games like DissidiaFinalFantasy and KingdomHearts annoy him Roger because he feels like they employ symbolism and PurpleProse just for the sake of it without any actual depth or meaning.

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* ContemplateOurNavels: In his dissection of DissidiaFinalFantasy, Roger muses that all of the PurpleProse and symbolism thrown around in the narrative are just there for emo teenagers to have something to feel profound for understanding.(Also so that hormone addled teenage girls can squee over all the [[HoYay homosexual undertones.]])


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* MeaninglessMeaningfulWords: The plot of games like DissidiaFinalFantasy and KingdomHearts annoy him because he feels like they employ symbolism and PurpleProse just for the sake of it without any actual depth or meaning.


* Chapter 6: Colorful art design. Roger explains his issues with the cutscenes of SonicColors, and how lifeless they feel. Roger, despite not being the best animator or artist, talks about how he feels Sonic Colors [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot loses its opportunity to play with the background.]]

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* Chapter 6: Colorful art design. Roger explains his issues with the cutscenes of SonicColors, VideoGame/SonicColors, and how lifeless they feel. Roger, despite not being the best animator or artist, talks about how he feels Sonic Colors [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot loses its opportunity to play with the background.]]



* HypocriticalHumor: Roger has issues with the animation of SonicColors. Luke of course, reacts the best way about it

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* HypocriticalHumor: Roger has issues with the animation of SonicColors.VideoGame/SonicColors. Luke of course, reacts the best way about it



* LazyArtist: Discussed. Roger, as the “Bad Animator” he is, notices when an good animator is bored out of his mind, and knows that the most boring scenes to animate are talking scenes, when nothing is happening. This is the reason why he tends to put characters interacting with the background on his personal animations. Since SonicColors's cutscenes are mostly talking, he feels the animators are not having the opportunity to have fun.

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* LazyArtist: Discussed. Roger, as the “Bad Animator” he is, notices when an good animator is bored out of his mind, and knows that the most boring scenes to animate are talking scenes, when nothing is happening. This is the reason why he tends to put characters interacting with the background on his personal animations. Since SonicColors's VideoGame/SonicColors's cutscenes are mostly talking, he feels the animators are not having the opportunity to have fun.



* PacingProblems: Luke talks about this with the storytelling rules, and how ''SonicColors'' wastes its time with bad jokes.

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* PacingProblems: Luke talks about this with the storytelling rules, and how ''SonicColors'' ''VideoGame/SonicColors'' wastes its time with bad jokes.


--> '''Luke''': [[SonicRiders So you are from the Babylon Rogues]], a tribe of people who travelled for several generations in becoming the ultimate Air Riders, and being your only purpose and goal in the entire world. Well, sucks to be you, Sonic never touched an Air Board before, randomly grabs one, and is as good as the champion of the world in 30 seconds!

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--> '''Luke''': [[SonicRiders [[VideoGame/SonicRiders So you are from the Babylon Rogues]], a tribe of people who travelled for several generations in becoming the ultimate Air Riders, and being your only purpose and goal in the entire world. Well, sucks to be you, Sonic never touched an Air Board before, randomly grabs one, and is as good as the champion of the world in 30 seconds!



* StrawCharacter: Luke takes this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted, however, [[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also has some very good opinions that Roger agrees with]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him say that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].

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* StrawCharacter: Luke takes this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted, however, [[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also has some very good opinions that Roger agrees with]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him say that he likes the [[SonicRiders [[VideoGame/SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].

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** In a more literal take of the trope, there is another superhero character that is actually named Captain Obvious, who appears in Kingdom Hearts Dissected, and is the arch-enemy of Captain Theory. Whereas Captain Theory is more into speculation and interpretation, Captain Obvious is into observation and facts.


* XmeetsY: Rogers describes Amy as the love child of WesternAnimation/MinnieMouse and [[{{Misery}} Annie Wilkes]].

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