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True Art Is Incomprehensible is now an in-universe trope as per TRS (ZCE)


* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: [[invoked]] In Felicia's pretensions, anyway.
-->Perfect, mysterious, comes from above
-->[[ShapedLikeItself Magic as a magic thing and lovely as love]]
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trope being retooled; racist asian shopkeeper moved to profiling


* RaceTropes: Many are explored (and mentioned by name) in "Nobody's Asian in the Movies", including the stereotyped Asian who is a [[AsianAndNerdy goofy mathematician]], [[AsianStoreOwner Korean grocery store owner]], or [[IKnowKarate ninja]], or who speaks [[BlindIdiotTranslation Engrish]]. "Me Love You Long Time" gets passing nod, too.

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* RaceTropes: Many are explored (and mentioned by name) in "Nobody's Asian in the Movies", including the stereotyped Asian who is a [[AsianAndNerdy goofy mathematician]], [[AsianStoreOwner [[{{Profiling}} Korean grocery store owner]], or [[IKnowKarate ninja]], or who speaks [[BlindIdiotTranslation Engrish]]. "Me Love You Long Time" gets passing nod, too.



---> '''All:''' We’ll talk about the writing \\

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---> '''All:''' We’ll We'll talk about the writing \\

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* SelfDeprecation: The entire cast personally participates in putting themselves down at one point or another for humor.
** Creator/JossWhedon is a cheap sell-out in between moping about exactly that.
** Zack Whedon is a particularly pathetic wannabe rapper.
** Creator/NeilPatrickHarris is a secretly megalomaniacal (and possibly bipolar) AttentionWhore.
** Creator/NathanFillion is in denial about not being as talented as his costars. In the first song alone:
---> '''All:''' We’ll talk about the writing \\
We’ll probably say “It’s great!”\\
And the acting — So exciting\\
Except for Nate\\
'''Nathan:''' I phoned it in.
** Creator/FeliciaDay is a self-promoting blabbermouth in between desperately trying and failing to be deep and artsy.
** Maurissa Tancharoen thinks "math" is a verb.
** The rest of the cast [[SmallNameBigEgo severely overestimates their importance]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKc2Pdvda8&hl=fr Steve's Song]] has Steve Berg singing about how incredibly minor his role is.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNmzegQUtFA&NR=1 Nobody's Asian in the Movies]] - Joss Whedon has been slammed for the fact that ''{{Series/Firefly}}'' had no Asian characters, despite being set in a culture heavily influenced by China.
** [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Felicia has a vestigial tail]]. NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat.



* TakeThatUs: The entire cast personally participates in putting themselves down at one point or another for humor.
** Creator/JossWhedon is a cheap sell-out in between moping about exactly that.
** Zack Whedon is a particularly pathetic wannabe rapper.
** Creator/NeilPatrickHarris is a secretly megalomaniacal (and possibly bipolar) AttentionWhore.
** Creator/NathanFillion is in denial about not being as talented as his costars. In the first song alone:
---> '''All:''' We’ll talk about the writing \\
We’ll probably say “It’s great!”\\
And the acting — So exciting\\
Except for Nate\\
'''Nathan:''' I phoned it in.
** Creator/FeliciaDay is a self-promoting blabbermouth in between desperately trying and failing to be deep and artsy.
** Maurissa Tancharoen thinks "math" is a verb.
** The rest of the cast [[SmallNameBigEgo severely overestimates their importance]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKc2Pdvda8&hl=fr Steve's Song]] has Steve Berg singing about how incredibly minor his role is.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNmzegQUtFA&NR=1 Nobody's Asian in the Movies]] - Joss Whedon has been slammed for the fact that ''{{Series/Firefly}}'' had no Asian characters, despite being set in a culture heavily influenced by China.
** [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Felicia has a vestigial tail]]. NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat.

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* ArtistDisillusionment: [[invoked]]The subject of Joss's song, which is so depressing it drives everyone except Neil out of the studio.



** Also, Joss commenting on the evils of DVD extras and how they ruin the original narrative, in an over-the-top DVD commentary ''musical'', one of several DVD extras. Although it may have been the extreme overabundance of them that he was complaining about, rather than merely their use.
** The song "Nobody's Asian in the Movies" is commenting on a problem to which Joss Whedon's own TV series ''{{Series/Firefly}}'' contributes.



** "Songs can hurt like a fist."
*** The previous comment is also said while, on-screen, the actor's character is being beaten up by the singer of the previous song.



* TakeThatAudience: ''"Hope you had fun / 'Cause now we're done / You've listened to every word / Seeing it through / Makes each of you / A huge [[SoundEffectBleep f***ing]] nerd!"''



** Naturally, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgYdhm_q7lg&feature=related Joss Whedon's song]] is ''all'' about this.
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* AuthorFilibuster:
** Joss Whedon's songs (one about the writers' strike and the other about how DVD extras like commentaries and making-of features destroy the narrative of the original work) come off less like TakeThatUs and more like plain old TakeThat.
** [[http://www.drhorrible.com/commentary.html Joss actually wrote most of the songs]], including those two - which means a lot of the TakeThatUs songs are all his fault. [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Or it could be bunnies.]]
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''Commentary! The Musical'' is [[DVDCommentary a commentary track]] on the DVD version of ''WebVideo/DrHorriblesSingAlongBlog'', where the cast - Creator/NeilPatrickHarris (Dr. Horrible), Creator/NathanFillion (Captain Hammer), Creator/FeliciaDay (Penny), writer/director Creator/JossWhedon, co-writers Maurissa Tancharoen, Jed Whedon and Zack Whedon, and several of the supporting actors - reunite to discuss the making of ''Dr. Horrible'' in the form of [[TheMusical a musical]] featuring [[TakeThatUs self-bashing songs]] such as "Better Than Neil" and "Ten Dollar Solo". The official lyrics and liner notes can be found [[http://drhorrible.com/commentary/ here.]]

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''Commentary! The Musical'' is [[DVDCommentary a commentary track]] on the DVD version of ''WebVideo/DrHorriblesSingAlongBlog'', where the cast - Creator/NeilPatrickHarris (Dr. Horrible), Creator/NathanFillion (Captain Hammer), Creator/FeliciaDay (Penny), writer/director Creator/JossWhedon, co-writers Maurissa Tancharoen, Jed Whedon and Zack Whedon, and several of the supporting actors - reunite to discuss the making of ''Dr. Horrible'' in the form of [[TheMusical a musical]] featuring [[TakeThatUs self-bashing [[SelfDeprecation self-deprecating songs]] such as "Better Than Neil" and "Ten Dollar Solo". The official lyrics and liner notes can be found [[http://drhorrible.com/commentary/ here.]]
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** Creator/NathanFillion turns the smarm factor UpToEleven on "Better Than Neil".

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** Creator/NathanFillion turns the smarm factor UpToEleven up to eleven on "Better Than Neil".

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* BreakingTheFourthWall: It's already a commentary, but when one song is entirely about the song itself Jed notes that it's like "breaking the ninth wall".

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* BreakingTheFourthWall: It's already a commentary, but when one song is entirely about the song itself Jed notes that it's like "breaking the ninth wall". ("It's pointless" - the only reason to include it is to [[DancingBear show off]].)



* {{Metafiction}}: It's a musical commentary track on commentaries. It probably spends more time commenting about how it's not a very good commentary than actually commenting on ''Dr. Horrible''. The most [[BuffySpeak commentary-ish]] song is Felicia's 'The Art', but that's full of her BlatantLies and SelfDeprecation.

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* {{Metafiction}}: It's a musical commentary track on commentaries. It probably spends more time commenting about how it's not a very good commentary than actually commenting on ''Dr. Horrible''. The most [[BuffySpeak commentary-ish]] song is Felicia's 'The Art', but that's full of her BlatantLies and SelfDeprecation. Neil finally attempts commentary in the penultimate song, only to realise he doesn't know anything about production and can't remember anyone's names.


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* SanitySlippageSong: Just before "Neil's Turn", Neil drives everyone else out of the room in a fit of being ThePrimaDonna, but over the course of the song realises that not only can he ''not'' do the entire commentary himself, he can't think of anything insightful to say and [[HeelRealisation he can't remember the name of the boom operator he liked]]. The music gets increasingly erratic and agitating, and he doesn't know where it's coming from, and the rhymes he thinks of as he struggles to keep up with it reveal thoughts about himself he's in denial about.
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* OldSchoolIntroductoryRap: The song "Neil's Turn" has Creator/NeilPatrickHarris attempting this, with [[StylisticSuck predictable results]].
-->'''Neil:''' And I can rap!
--> My name is Neil,
--> and I'm here to say:
--> ''[five seconds of absolutely abysmal faux-beatboxing]''
--> ...No, I can't rap.
--> That was painful.
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** In "Zack's Flavour" mentions that the musical doesn't need to be 'pretty' or 'witty'. Compare with the line from ''Film/WestSideStory'', "I feel pretty and witty and bright." from "I Feel Pretty". Or compare to ''Film/TheProducers'' 'Shows should be more pretty, shows should be more witty' from the song 'Keep it Gay'.

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** In "Zack's Flavour" mentions that the musical doesn't need to be 'pretty' or 'witty'. Compare with the line from ''Film/WestSideStory'', ''Film/WestSideStory1961'', "I feel pretty and witty and bright." from "I Feel Pretty". Or compare to ''Film/TheProducers'' 'Shows should be more pretty, shows should be more witty' from the song 'Keep it Gay'.
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* AdamWesting: The cast & crew play [[CloudCuckoolander exaggerated, more absurd, versions of themselves.

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* AdamWesting: The cast & crew play [[CloudCuckoolander exaggerated, more absurd, versions of themselves.]]
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* AdamWesting: The cast & crew play exaggerated, more absurd, versions of themselves.

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* AdamWesting: The cast & crew play [[CloudCuckoolander exaggerated, more absurd, versions of themselves.
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* Cloudcuckoolander: Pretty much all the cast & crew come across as this.

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* Cloudcuckoolander: CloudCuckoolander: Pretty much all the cast & crew come across as this.

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* AdamWesting: The cast & crew play [[Cloudcuckoolander exaggerated, more absurd, versions of themselves.]]

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* AdamWesting: The cast & crew play [[Cloudcuckoolander exaggerated, more absurd, versions of themselves.]]


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* Cloudcuckoolander: Pretty much all the cast & crew come across as this.
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* AsHimself: Everyone in the cast is pretending to be a version of themselves.

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* AsHimself: Everyone in the cast is [[AdamWesting pretending to be a version of themselves.]]



* NiceCharacterMeanActor: Apparently, everyone involved in the making of ''Dr. Horrible''.

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* NiceCharacterMeanActor: [[AdamWesting Apparently, everyone involved in the making of ''Dr. Horrible''. ]]
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** "Let's not talk to Joss any more. He's sad and confusing."

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** "Let's not talk to Joss any more. Joss.[[TheEeyore He's sad and confusing.""]]
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* AsHimself: Everyone in the cast is pretending to be a version of themselves.
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Per TRS, Painful Rhyme is now In Universe Examples Only. This example was in-universe, so it didn't need to be on the YMMV page.

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* PainfulRhyme: In "Nobody's Asian in the Movies," the line "groupie in the chorus" is rhymed oddly. At first, it's like this "if there is a part there for us/it's the groupie in the chorus" (for us/chorus). However, later on, you get "if your movie is a bore/just watch the groupie in the chorus", (bore, just/chorus)... "Commentary (Reprise)" lampshades this with the lyrics "The lazy phrasing betrays how well this pays".
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''Commentary! The Musical'' is [[DVDCommentary a commentary track]] on the DVD version of ''WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog'', where the cast - Creator/NeilPatrickHarris (Dr. Horrible), Creator/NathanFillion (Captain Hammer), Creator/FeliciaDay (Penny), writer/director Creator/JossWhedon, co-writers Maurissa Tancharoen, Jed Whedon and Zack Whedon, and several of the supporting actors - reunite to discuss the making of ''Dr. Horrible'' in the form of [[TheMusical a musical]] featuring [[TakeThatUs self-bashing songs]] such as "Better Than Neil" and "Ten Dollar Solo". The official lyrics and liner notes can be found [[http://drhorrible.com/commentary/ here.]]

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''Commentary! The Musical'' is [[DVDCommentary a commentary track]] on the DVD version of ''WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog'', ''WebVideo/DrHorriblesSingAlongBlog'', where the cast - Creator/NeilPatrickHarris (Dr. Horrible), Creator/NathanFillion (Captain Hammer), Creator/FeliciaDay (Penny), writer/director Creator/JossWhedon, co-writers Maurissa Tancharoen, Jed Whedon and Zack Whedon, and several of the supporting actors - reunite to discuss the making of ''Dr. Horrible'' in the form of [[TheMusical a musical]] featuring [[TakeThatUs self-bashing songs]] such as "Better Than Neil" and "Ten Dollar Solo". The official lyrics and liner notes can be found [[http://drhorrible.com/commentary/ here.]]
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** [[http://www.drhorrible.com/commentary.html Joss actually wrote most of the songs]], including those two - which means lot of the TakeThatUs songs are all his fault. [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Or it could be bunnies.]]

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** [[http://www.drhorrible.com/commentary.html Joss actually wrote most of the songs]], including those two - which means a lot of the TakeThatUs songs are all his fault. [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Or it could be bunnies.]]



** Creator/JossWhedon is a cheap sell-out in between moping about exactly that
** Zack Whedon is a particularly pathetic wannabe rapper
** Creator/NeilPatrickHarris is a secretly megalomaniacal (and possibly bipolar) AttentionWhore

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** Creator/JossWhedon is a cheap sell-out in between moping about exactly that
that.
** Zack Whedon is a particularly pathetic wannabe rapper
rapper.
** Creator/NeilPatrickHarris is a secretly megalomaniacal (and possibly bipolar) AttentionWhoreAttentionWhore.



** Creator/FeliciaDay is a self-promoting blabbermouth in between desperately trying and failing to be deep and artsy
** Maurissa Tancharoen thinks "math" is a verb

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** Creator/FeliciaDay is a self-promoting blabbermouth in between desperately trying and failing to be deep and artsy
artsy.
** Maurissa Tancharoen thinks "math" is a verb verb.



** [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Felicia has a vestigial tail]]. NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat
* TrueArtIsAngsty: [[invoked]] Parodied, of course. (With SelfDeprecation, as Creator/JossWhedon known for putting his characters through the wringer.)

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** [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Felicia has a vestigial tail]]. NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat
NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat.
* TrueArtIsAngsty: [[invoked]] Parodied, of course. (With SelfDeprecation, as Creator/JossWhedon is known for putting his characters through the wringer.)
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* {{Metafiction}}: It's a musical commentary track on commentaries. It probably spend more time commenting about how it's not a very good commentary than actually commenting on ''Dr. Horrible''. The most [[BuffySpeak commentary-ish]] song is Felicia's 'The Art', but that's full of her BlatantLies and SelfDeprecation.

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* {{Metafiction}}: It's a musical commentary track on commentaries. It probably spend spends more time commenting about how it's not a very good commentary than actually commenting on ''Dr. Horrible''. The most [[BuffySpeak commentary-ish]] song is Felicia's 'The Art', but that's full of her BlatantLies and SelfDeprecation.

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