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* Around WW1, Russia is able to get involved somewhat, it becomes a Russian client state similar to Mongolia. When communists take over Russia, they do in this country also.
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* Around WW1, [=WW1=], Russia is able to get involved somewhat, it becomes a Russian client state similar to Mongolia. When communists take over Russia, they do in this country also.
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[[WMG: The enemy country is Caucasia, and alternate universe country controlling the Caucasus mountains and surrounding territory]]
The country combines elements of Iran (nuclear program, F-14's) and Russia or a Russian allied one (SU-57's, cold) and has mountains near a coast. Russia and Iran come close to meeting in the Caucasus, which is also on the Black Sea to allow a carrier. The rough history of this country leading to the air strike is:
* In the 1700's, kingdom in the Caucasus established, unifies the region, mountains allow it to defend itself against surrounding powers.
* In the 1800's, good diplomacy and defensiveness of mountains allow it to avoid getting incorporated into Russia.
* It gets its modern borders somewhere around this time, covering the Caucasus, parts of what is in our world northwest Turkey, northeast Iran, and that jutting down bit of Russia just north of the Caucasus.
* Around WW1, Russia is able to get involved somewhat, it becomes a Russian client state similar to Mongolia. When communists take over Russia, they do in this country also.
* Because this country exists, Stalin does not take over in the soviet Union (as he would be from this country instead, but its different politics and history means someone else is the leader anyway). Soviet government in the 1930's still repeats a lot of actions, like industrialization and possibly political purges, due to institutional/social reasons. In World War 2, it supplies the soviet Union with oil, and as a result is attacked by the Nazis in 1942, leading to the extremely deadly battle of Tsaritsyn, or possibly Bolshegrad or Volgograd.
* Through the Cold War, the country stayed communist. In the 1980s, it got an aggressive leader, who made various threats to surrounding countries. As part of NATO, turkey asked for help from the U.S. to keep this country under control, leading to events in the first Top Gun.
* After the fall of the Soviet Union and end of the Cold War, the country was able to get some wealth from its oil. Some of this wealth was invested in weapons, such as F-14's (which were newer at the time). Ethnic conflicts, however, sprung up, leading to problems such as corruption which kept the country from making full use of its oil wealth. This resulting in its air force being a hodgepodge by the time of the second Top Gun.
* The country had to do a careful diplomatic dance between Russia, Iran, and NATO countries including Turkey and the United States. Facing many potentially dangerous enemies, some of its wealth was invested in nuclear weapons development. However, the U.S. didn't like this, and got the country involved in diplomacy to stop the programs in return for some other benefits.
* Sometime after this treaty, a strongly pro-Russia faction took over. This faction was trusted enough to get some SU-57's from Russia. (Most or all of them, apparently....let's just assume the program was more successful in this alternative universe). They also turn against NATO, and as part of this, restart the nuclear program.
* The U.S. Navy is told to airstrike their main nuclear weapons facility during winter of some year around 2020. The country's nuclear program and part of its air force are prestige projects financed by oil wealth and are highly effective, but corruption and political disfunction make the rest of its military have varying quality, including some 1990's F-14's still flying. The events of Top Gun Maverick happen, destroying the underground base and 3 of the country's SU-57's. the country does not move to full scale war against the U.S. because it isn't anywhere near strong enough, instead remaking some agreements and shutting down its nuclear program, and this ends the incident for international diplomacy. In the country, the pro-Russia faction loses power, though what happens afterwards to the country's economy and politics is beyond the scope of this WMG.
The country combines elements of Iran (nuclear program, F-14's) and Russia or a Russian allied one (SU-57's, cold) and has mountains near a coast. Russia and Iran come close to meeting in the Caucasus, which is also on the Black Sea to allow a carrier. The rough history of this country leading to the air strike is:
* In the 1700's, kingdom in the Caucasus established, unifies the region, mountains allow it to defend itself against surrounding powers.
* In the 1800's, good diplomacy and defensiveness of mountains allow it to avoid getting incorporated into Russia.
* It gets its modern borders somewhere around this time, covering the Caucasus, parts of what is in our world northwest Turkey, northeast Iran, and that jutting down bit of Russia just north of the Caucasus.
* Around WW1, Russia is able to get involved somewhat, it becomes a Russian client state similar to Mongolia. When communists take over Russia, they do in this country also.
* Because this country exists, Stalin does not take over in the soviet Union (as he would be from this country instead, but its different politics and history means someone else is the leader anyway). Soviet government in the 1930's still repeats a lot of actions, like industrialization and possibly political purges, due to institutional/social reasons. In World War 2, it supplies the soviet Union with oil, and as a result is attacked by the Nazis in 1942, leading to the extremely deadly battle of Tsaritsyn, or possibly Bolshegrad or Volgograd.
* Through the Cold War, the country stayed communist. In the 1980s, it got an aggressive leader, who made various threats to surrounding countries. As part of NATO, turkey asked for help from the U.S. to keep this country under control, leading to events in the first Top Gun.
* After the fall of the Soviet Union and end of the Cold War, the country was able to get some wealth from its oil. Some of this wealth was invested in weapons, such as F-14's (which were newer at the time). Ethnic conflicts, however, sprung up, leading to problems such as corruption which kept the country from making full use of its oil wealth. This resulting in its air force being a hodgepodge by the time of the second Top Gun.
* The country had to do a careful diplomatic dance between Russia, Iran, and NATO countries including Turkey and the United States. Facing many potentially dangerous enemies, some of its wealth was invested in nuclear weapons development. However, the U.S. didn't like this, and got the country involved in diplomacy to stop the programs in return for some other benefits.
* Sometime after this treaty, a strongly pro-Russia faction took over. This faction was trusted enough to get some SU-57's from Russia. (Most or all of them, apparently....let's just assume the program was more successful in this alternative universe). They also turn against NATO, and as part of this, restart the nuclear program.
* The U.S. Navy is told to airstrike their main nuclear weapons facility during winter of some year around 2020. The country's nuclear program and part of its air force are prestige projects financed by oil wealth and are highly effective, but corruption and political disfunction make the rest of its military have varying quality, including some 1990's F-14's still flying. The events of Top Gun Maverick happen, destroying the underground base and 3 of the country's SU-57's. the country does not move to full scale war against the U.S. because it isn't anywhere near strong enough, instead remaking some agreements and shutting down its nuclear program, and this ends the incident for international diplomacy. In the country, the pro-Russia faction loses power, though what happens afterwards to the country's economy and politics is beyond the scope of this WMG.
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[[WMG: How did Hangman get the drop on the third Felon?]]
We see earlier in the film that the Super Hornets have trouble spotting bogies that are behind them. Assuming the Felon has a similar blindspot, Hangman might have shut off his own radar and let the Hawkeye crew vector him in behind the Felon while the pilot was distracted trying to run down Maverick and Rooster. Once he was in position, he could loose a heat-seeking Sidewinder at the Felon without giving him the warning of a radar lock.
Beyond that, the closer to the battle group the dogfight got, the more susceptible the Felon would be to any ECM the carrier group might try to employ to mask Hangman's approach, both from the surface ships and any planes in the air.
We see earlier in the film that the Super Hornets have trouble spotting bogies that are behind them. Assuming the Felon has a similar blindspot, Hangman might have shut off his own radar and let the Hawkeye crew vector him in behind the Felon while the pilot was distracted trying to run down Maverick and Rooster. Once he was in position, he could loose a heat-seeking Sidewinder at the Felon without giving him the warning of a radar lock.
Beyond that, the closer to the battle group the dogfight got, the more susceptible the Felon would be to any ECM the carrier group might try to employ to mask Hangman's approach, both from the surface ships and any planes in the air.
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We see earlier in the film that the Super Hornets have trouble spotting bogies that are behind them. Assuming the Felon has a similar blindspot, Hangman might have shut off his own radar and let the Hawkeye crew vector him in behind the Felon while the pilot was distracted trying to run down Maverick and Rooster. Once he was in position, he could loose a heat-seeking Sidewinder at the Felon without giving him the warning of a radar lock.
Beyond that, the closer to the battle group the dogfight got, the more susceptible the Felon would be to any ECM the carrier group might try to employ to mask Hangman's approach, both from the surface ships and any planes in the air.
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[[WMG: How did Hangman get the drop on the third Felon?]]
We see earlier in the film that the Super Hornets have trouble spotting bogies that are behind them. Assuming the Felon has a similar blindspot, Hangman might have shut off his own radar and let the Hawkeye crew vector him in behind the Felon while the pilot was distracted trying to run down Maverick and Rooster. Once he was in position, he could loose a heat-seeking Sidewinder at the Felon without giving him the warning of a radar lock.
Beyond that, the closer to the battle group the dogfight got, the more susceptible the Felon would be to any ECM the carrier group might try to employ to mask Hangman's approach, both from the surface ships and any planes in the air.
We see earlier in the film that the Super Hornets have trouble spotting bogies that are behind them. Assuming the Felon has a similar blindspot, Hangman might have shut off his own radar and let the Hawkeye crew vector him in behind the Felon while the pilot was distracted trying to run down Maverick and Rooster. Once he was in position, he could loose a heat-seeking Sidewinder at the Felon without giving him the warning of a radar lock.
Beyond that, the closer to the battle group the dogfight got, the more susceptible the Felon would be to any ECM the carrier group might try to employ to mask Hangman's approach, both from the surface ships and any planes in the air.
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* One of the younger pilots is mentioned as being the only naval aviator on active duty to shoot down an enemy aircraft, and the film later establishes Maverick's own air-to-air bona fides, so it is implied that he has been in the Reserves for at least a while, presumably part of how he ended up working for Lockheed Martin as a test pilot.
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* He ends up with is on-again/off-again girlfriend, TheOneThatGotAway
* He reconnects with and receives validation from Iceman.
* He reconnects with and receives validation from Iceman.
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* He ends up with is his on-again/off-again girlfriend, TheOneThatGotAway
* He reconnects with and receives validation fromIceman.Iceman
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* He finally comes to term with Goose's death by befriending his son and saving his life.
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* He proves the value of manned fighters vs. unmanned drones, ensuring pilots like him will always have a place
* He finally comes to term with Goose's death by befriendinghis son and saving his life.
the life of Goose's son
* He finally comes to term with Goose's death by befriending
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* The US Naval Institute informs us that he could still be a Captain in 2019 if he spends a few (5 or more) years in the reserves during his career, such as during the stand-down between the Gulf War and Bosnia (1991-97).
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During the climatic battle, Rooster tells Maverick, quoting something his father Goose said in the first film, "C'mon, Mav, do some of that pilot shit." Or does he? How does he know to quote Goose so exactly? The answer is, he didn't. Maverick said "Talk to me, Goose." and Goose did ''from the afterlife''.
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During the climatic climactic battle, Rooster tells Maverick, quoting something his father Goose said in the first film, "C'mon, Mav, do some of that pilot shit." Or does he? How does he know to quote Goose so exactly? The answer is, he didn't. Maverick said "Talk to me, Goose." and Goose did ''from the afterlife''.
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[[WMG: Charlotte "Charlie" Blackwood had a VERY bad breakup with Maverick]]
It's one thing to date a hot-shot pilot who learns to grow and take responsibility, but Maverick still is the MilitaryMaverick. His lack of playing by the rules didn't sit well with Charlie - she has to work with Navy brass in her job and the subject of Mavrick's antics would come up. Maverick being booted from Top Gun after two months would be a sore spot for Mav - especially if Charlie stayed in her position as an instructor.
Their relationship just couldn't take the stain and they broke up - also Maverick was still carrying a torch for Penny.
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* Also, Maverick would have been in his element during the opening stages of the UsefulNotes/WarOnTerror - flying lead on missions to support ground troops or airstrikes in the opening of the US offensive. As the Operation Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom ground on, Iceman could have made sure that Maverick wasn't rotated to boring desk jobs or ReassignedToAntarctica.
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* Also, Maverick would have been in his element during the opening stages of the UsefulNotes/WarOnTerror - flying lead on missions to support ground troops or airstrikes in the opening of the US offensive. As the Operation Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom ground on, Iceman could have made sure that Maverick wasn't rotated to boring desk jobs or ReassignedToAntarctica. That's why he's a test pilot - until that Admiral came to shut down the program, he was in his element.
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* Yeah, I know, it's the most cliched of cliches, and I wouldn't even bring it up, ''except'' -- Penny's daughter is named ''Amelia''. As in Amelia Earhart, the most famous female pilot in history. Theme naming/like father, like daughter, perhaps?[[note]]No, I don't actually think it's true. I just like the connection.[[/note]]
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[[WMG: Penny's daughter's father is actually Maverick]]
* Yeah, I know, it's the most cliched of cliches, and I wouldn't even bring it up, ''except'' -- Penny's daughter is named ''Amelia''. As in Amelia Earhart, the most famous female pilot in history. Theme naming/like father, like daughter, perhaps?[[note]]No, I don't actually think it's true. I just like the connection.[[/note]]
* Yeah, I know, it's the most cliched of cliches, and I wouldn't even bring it up, ''except'' -- Penny's daughter is named ''Amelia''. As in Amelia Earhart, the most famous female pilot in history. Theme naming/like father, like daughter, perhaps?[[note]]No, I don't actually think it's true. I just like the connection.[[/note]]
