History WMG / ThunderCats2011

* Cue the ThunderCats meeting the Mane Six and new bonds being born. With Lion-O and Twilight forming a brother/sister-like relationship, Tygra constantly quarreling with Rarity, Cheetara challenging Rainbow Dash to a race, Panthro helping Applejack at Sweet Apple Acres, and the ThunderKittens fooling around with Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie.

* Alternatively to that alternate, they're the [[Warhammer40K Necrontyr.]]

** No! The world is a [[TabeltopGame/Warhammer40000 Dark Age of technology]] remenant.

*** At the very least it could create an interest in old HannaBarbera properties like ''PiratesOfDarkWater'', which considering the popularity of the ''PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' films would make this a perfect time for a come-back. If you think about it, the plots for this show and PODW are almost identical: Prince sets out on journey with companions and a TeamPet to find mystical [[MacGuffin MacGuffins]].

** Also cybernetic arms will only enhance the already staggering [[{{Expy}} resemblance]] Panthro has to [[CowboyBebop Jet Back]]

* With the amount of yaoi fanart piling up over on DeviantART at the moment, that's a safe bet.

* There's also the Thunderkittens and Snarf, which have caused much {{Squee}} from both male ''and'' female fans. And considering the vast amount of high school/college girls in the FurryFandom, I'd say this is a given. (Also joining in on wanting that ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' revival to come back, it was awesome.)

* Could be a ShoutOut to another [[{{Stargate}} Ra]].

[[WMG: The Stones are this universe's [[FinalFantasy Crystals]].]]

[[WMG: There will be a ShoutOut to ''TheAmazingWorldOfGumball''.]]

[[WMG: Tookit is Sly Cooper or a relative.]]
He is a raccoon who is good at stealing things.

** And when Panthro gets it back, [[TheFantasticMrFox he'll tie it around his waist like a belt]]. The others will be hilariously squicked.

** Alternately it will spark a (re?) revival of the 2002 ''[[WesternAnimation/{{He-Man and the Masters of the Universe}} Masters of the Universe]]'' reboot which this seems to be a sort of spiritual successor to.

* There's also the Thunderkittens and Snarf, which have caused much {{Squee}} from both male ''and'' female fans. And considering the vast amount of high school/college girls in the FurryFandom, I'd say this is a given. (Also joining in on wanting that ''[[WesternAnimation/{{He-Man and the Masters of the Universe}} Masters of the Universe]]'' revival to come back, it was awesome.)

** Or, you know, considering that he has massive scars ''all over his freaking body,'' and a partially non-functional eye, [[SarcasmMode he could have, I don't know, ''lost it in a battle?'']]

* An episode like that would acutally work well with any of the lead characters. It would also be a nice way of showing that if even one of them left the team, the team just wouldn't be able to pull together like it should.

[[WMG: Not just the [=SilverHawks=] and [=TigerSharks=] are going to show up, but also the charecters from ''Mini Monsters'', ''Street Frogs'', and ''Karate Kat'']]
If they can use the [=TigerSharks=] then they can use the other charecters from ''The Comic Strip''. The Mini Monsters will be in a "Dark Is Not Evil" episode. The Street Frogs will be a group of musicians the Cats encounter. And Karate Kat will become a Thundercat, and in a crowning moment of awesome, will wreck tanks with his bare hands.

** [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}]] as of "Native Son", technically it was a ballon.

** Lion-O could receive help from the WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}} team as well.

[[WMG: There will be a cross-over with a new WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}} team.]]

* The line about "Flying ships" from the pilot doesn't refer to the airships that will be seen later on, but spaceships. The WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}} will crash-land on Third Earth and it will be up to the Cats to help them repair their ship before Grune, Mumm-Ra, and their allies lay claim to its much more advanced and incredibly powerful technology and use it to subjugate all of Third Earth.

** WordOfGod (Producer Michael Jelenic): "It's possible Silverhawks could appear in this universe. WarnerBros owns the Silverhawks, they own the [[TheComicStrip Tiger Sharks]]... it wouldn't be reaching to think that characters from both of those series might show up in this series. Mon-Star might make an appearance." From [[http://www.ksitetv.com/7348/interview-with-the-creative-talents-behind-the-new-thundercats/ this interview]].

[[WMG: The WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}} were put in [[HumanPopsicle cryonic sleep]] during a battle against Mon*Star prior to Mumm-Ra's invasion and will eventually be found by the [=ThunderCats=]]]
* It would function as both a MythologyGag and a way to CrossOver between the two shows without affecting each other's continuity too much. Most likely there will be a LetsYouAndHimFight moment since the last thing the Silverhawks remember will probably be Mumm-Ra invading with the Cats and other [[BeastMan Beast Men]]. They'll probably function as allies for the [=ThunderCats=] and help them better understand the technology as well as the universe outside the planet, with the hope that one day the [=ThunderCats=] and other species will be able to rebuild the technology for space travel and find where they once came from.

It meant that the stone was on another planet. Which would be a good way to introduce the silverhawks.

[[WMG: The Eye of Thundera ORIGINALLY belonged to Mon*Star, making the world Mumm-Ra and the Thundercat ancestors attacked to get it [[WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}} Brimstar, Mon*Star's planetary headquarters]].]]

* 2.) The world that was attacked in the flashback in "Journey to the Tower of Omens," is [[http://www.thundercats.ws/news/attach/1/Thundercats-106-019_1314425114.jpg red with a single moon]]. In ''WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}}'', Brimstar is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5q4TYxDgs red with a single moon (the Moon-star).]]
* 3.) WordOfGod (Producer Michael Jelenic): "It's possible WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}} could appear in this universe. WarnerBros owns the Silverhawks, they own the [[TheComicStrip Tiger Sharks]]... it wouldn't be reaching to think that characters from both of those series might show up in this series. Mon-Star might make an appearance." From [[http://www.ksitetv.com/7348/interview-with-the-creative-talents-behind-the-new-thundercats/ this interview]]. (Also noted further down)
* 4.) Both ''WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}}'' BigBad Mon*Star and Mumm-Ra himself use a similar incantation to transform themselves into a more powerful being. This could also mean that the Ancient Spirits of Evil in the 2011 continuity is the same power Mon*Star calls upon to transform; Mumm-Ra just calls this power the "Ancient Spirits of Evil" because he learned how to invoke it so long ago. The flashback suggests these events took place thousands of years prior.

[[WMG: Not just the Silverhawks and Tigersharks are going to show up, but also the charecters from Mini Monsters, Street Frogs, and Karate Kat]]
If they can use the Tigersharks then they can use the other charecters from the Comic Strip. The Mini Monsters will be in a "Dark Is Not Evil" episode. The Street Frogs will be a group of musicians the Cats encounter. And Karate Kat will become a Thundercat, and in a crowning moment of awesome, will wreck tanks with his bare hands.

Model sheets seem to indicate his powered up form will display pointed ears exceedingly similar to those Thunderians posses. Plus, the showrunners have indicated that his obsession with the Thundercats will have quite an extensive back-story in this incarnation. Look at the close-up shots of him in "Old Friends". His feet are clawed and he walks on his toes, and his nose faintly resembles that of a cat. Maybe a long, long time ago, he went FromNobodyToNightmare, a cleric who got corrupted by magic and started dabbling in 'black arts' (hey, if there's magic, there's definitely black magic that nobody's allowed to touch but somebody inevitably does). This may have deformed him and turned him into a weird mummy creature and he just played on the image. It could also explain why he claims the Sword of Omens belongs to him - he could've been a member of the royal family. Either way, that would be why he hates the Thundercats so much and why he wants to take over the realm.
* ''Alternate Theory'': It's also possible that Mumm-Ra is actually a Thunderian possessed by the spirit of the original Mumm-Ra. There is evidence that suggests that this series is not only a reboot, but a very loose sequel to the original series. The original Thundercats defeated Mumm-Ra but only succeeded in destroying his body, so he found a new one.

He was was being carted to some inter-galactic gulag (possibly by Mandora? Or at least an early incarnation of her organization.) He tried to take over the ship and ended up crashing it on Third Earth. Some of his magic/tech devices and knowledge was stolen by the ancient Thundercats, and, severely weakened, he put himself in suspended animation to survive. He's actually wanting to re-power up his ship and escape Third Earth!

[[WMG: Mumm-Ra is attempting to use the Thundercats in a MacGuffinDeliveryService to find the other power stones for him]]
Planning to swoop in at the last minute and steal them. However the quest for the stones has not only made the Thundercats stronger through ThePowerOfFriendship, but also improved their combat skills from trying not to die all the time that they will defeat him in a CurbStompBattle.

* ''Alternately, Tygra's birth parents were traitors and/or enemies of Thundera.'' Kind of rips off ''Film/{{Thor}}'' but maybe Tygus being against Leo's rebellion foreshadows that the tigers would later become traitors and break away from Thundera. Tygra's real father might have been killed in battle or by Claudus, who took in his enemy's son to make peace with the tigers or out of guilt or as a pawn to be used later before he started thinking of Tygra as his own son. This may mean there are scattered tigers out there, and they're not very big fans of the Thundercats.

* Or it could be a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when Lion-O jokingly says, "Great, [[CainAndAbelAndSeth now I have two brothers]] to look after." Bengali will be stunned that the king of the Thundercats would just accept him into the family like that (bonus points if he has a tail) while Tygra laughingly tells him to get used to it.

* Here's a crazy thought: Grune will somehow gain a connection to Panthro. Much like Hammerhand becoming a clone of Panthro, Grune will either return to Third Earth as a sort of Doppelganger, or perhaps use Panthro's lost arms to take on his appearance to screw with the Thundercats by sowing distrust among them.

* Towards the end of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Boota manages to use Spiral Power to evolve into a humanoid pig-mole. According to Gurren Lagann canon, the humanoid form is the one best suited to the use of Spiral Power, and that force will cause creatures to evolve along that particular path. Sometime in the distant past, normal animals (cats, dogs, jackals, lizards, birds, sharks, etc) experienced some sort of event that allowed them to manifest Spiral Power, and they gained humanoid form. Cats are capable of manifesting it the best, which makes them stronger and faster than the other races, and also why they look most human of the various animal races. In addition, this explains the tail/no tail racism in Thundercats society: those without tails are closer to human form, and are of higher rank because of this. The only ones with magic powers we've seen in the show have been tailless. Also explains the tail/lack of tail of Panthro: eventually, he got enough spiral power that it disappeared.

[[WMG: One or both of the Lizards that Lion-O had pardoned will join the Thundercats' side]]

[[WMG: Everyone the Thundercats helps will join forces later.]]

Okay, a bit wild but everyone's been wondering how those guys came about so I'm sticking to one theory somebody proposed previously in another Thundercats forum. The Berbils are probably failed creations of the Cybermen. Before Mondas was destroyed, they upgraded a few bears as basically "the help." They're there to repair the Cybermen themselves and any of their technology even help out with the Cyber-Conversions, to an extreme; they're slaves. But later on, they grasped the concept of free will and very much escaped to Third Earth for shelter.

** Another possibly related theory: Lynx-O has been leading a group of Thundercats in guerrilla warfare against Mumm-Ra's forces, and he and his team are [[HeroOfAnotherStory Heroes Of Another Story.]] They'll eventually meet up with the main cast in the midst of a big operation against Mumm-Ra.

In the original Thundercats Pumyra was a healer and medic. The remake will take this trait and expand on it making her a full-blown [[NonActionGuy Non-Action Girl]] who hates fighting as it goes against her principles and whose main character trait in her gentleness despite being thrust into this hostile situation. Bonus points if they keep her original outfit (which included a skirt) to contrast with Cheetara's more action-oriented shorts.

[[WMG: Lion-O will be separated from the other Thundercats for a period of time]]
Needing to get his head together after finding out about Tygra and Cheetara Lion-O either strikes out on his own or is otherwise separated in combat from the core team. It is during this time that he will find Lynx-O, Pumyra, and Bengali, and possibly undergo the trials that complete his transformation from brash idealistic teenager, to a mature king. This could work well because being left alone is part of the archetypal hero's journey and it would be a chance to alternate between Lion-O's adventures and that of the other Thundercats giving the chance for both to undergo character development.

[[WMG:Upon discovering Lynx-O, Bengali, and Pumyra Lion-O will abandon the other Thundercats to join them]]

[[WMG: The Animals that served Mumm-Ra were humans transformed through the Fish Tank from Tigersharks]]
Since Tigersharks is a part of ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}} [=ThunderCats (2011)=]]]'' canon, this could further explain the origin of the Animals. In original Tigersharks, the heroes transformed into half-human half-fish people through the Fish Tank. For the 2011 canon, the different Animal races could be the result of using similar technology to create more diverse animal hybrids, only they never reverted back to human. Mumm-Ra uses each type of Animal for specific purposes, and it's possible that in the past human soldiers were modified with specific animal DNA to complete different kinds of missions. Mumm-Ra could even be some sort of very early prototype, or possibly a sorcerer who used this technology to become a human-bat hybrid.

[[WMG: Mumm-Ra cast a spell [[spoiler:to prevent the passing Thundercats from noticing Pumyra]]]]

And the Thundercats will have to go on a quest to reforge the sword. Bonus points if Hattanzo is the one to do the reforging.

In which case the Thunderkittens will be sorely disappointed, while the other Thundercats will be glad to have technology that gives them a fighting chance against Mumm-Ra's forces.
* ''Related Theory:'' El Dara will become the Thundercats' base

It'll appear to have been undiscovered at first, letting the Thundercats think that they've found a way to fight back... [[YankTheDogsChain and then they discover evidence that they weren't the first ones there]].

* ''Related Theory'': After going through the Trials, the other Thundercats will become faithful in Lion-O This will allow him to call to them when he calls THUNDERCATS HO!!!

[[WMG: The Thundercats' credo (Truth, Justice, Honor, and Loyalty) will be deconstructed over a series of episodes]]

[[WMG: When they find the Book of Omens, that is when the Thundercats will get their insignia]]
If you look at all the Thundercats, all they have is this big red circle where the Thundercats insignia is supposed to be, but when Grune shows up again in "Old Friends" his blank red circle now has Mumm-Ra's insignia on it meaning that it was changed.

[[WMG: Expect a sort of crossover special between ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats}} [=ThunderCats=]]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}} [=ThunderCats (2011)=]]]'']]
Similar to ''TurtlesForever'', where the 2003 Ninja Turtles and the 1987 Ninja Turtles (and their respective villains) all wind up in the same plane of existence. This could happen if the 2011 Thundercats show really takes off.

Which will act as a test pilot for a possible revival of that series, which would actually be connected to the Thundercats for once.

[[WMG: Thundercats will Crossover with ''{{Kamen Rider OOO}}''...]]

[[WMG: Due to both shows achieving a PeripheryDemographic, there will be a crossover between Thundercats and ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'']]
Two highly popular revivals of 80s cartoons both airing at the same time possibly sharing a similar audience? Too cool not to happen.

* Alternatively, the Thundercats will run into a peaceful Lizard tribe and be lectured that not all Lizard people are bad.

[[WMG: Lion-O's trials will be performed in complete isolation from the other Thundercats]]
Feeling betrayed Lion-O will abandon the other Thundercats and spend some time WalkingTheEarth. It is during this time that he will undergo severe CharacterDevelopment and mature into a strong and wise king.

** More or less [[spoiler: confirmed since Lion-O dies and the trials take place in the spirit world with each test taking the form of someone he's close to in the living world (i.e. the other Thundercats).]]

At first it will be just the Thundercats against Mumm-Ra and his army and the battle will take a [[DarkestHour turn for the worst and all will seem lost]]. But then all the people that the Thundercats befriended during their journey will show up in a BigDamnHeroes moment: namely the Petalars will come after legends of the good King Lion-O have been passed down from generation to generation, the Berbils will come as tech support, the Elephants will come after meditating that it is for the good of all species, the {{Fishmen}} will come in gratitude for giving them their home back, etc. The series will then end with a [[BookEnds distant epilogue of a new Thundera]] where all species are equal and live in harmony with each other.

This will give a PerspectiveFlip on the Thundercats' enemies, showing that not all of them are AlwaysChaoticEvil and injecting yet more Grey into the conflict between the Cats and the Lizards. Expect a lot of [[VillainsOutShopping quirky shenanigans]] and perhaps a few [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorses]] in the making!

Lion-O will somehow be sent forward about ten years and find that Mumm-Ra managed to conquer the world in his absence and all of the Thundercats have been enslaved by him. One or more of the original team will have died ([[MentorOccupationalHazard Panthro]], [[ShooOutTheClowns Snarf]], and Cheetara are all likely candidates), Tygra will be bitter about Lion-O's disappearance [[WhatTheHellHero ask him where the hell he was while his people needed him]], Wilykit and Wilykat will have grown up to be [[FutureBadass Future Badasses]], and Lion-O will somehow learn an important weakness of Mumm-Ra which he will take back with him after he escapes or defeats the BadFuture.

[[WMG: The WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}} were put in [[HumanPopsicle cryonic sleep]] during a battle against Mon*Star prior to Mumm-Ra's invasion and will eventually be found by the Thundercats]]
* It would function as both a MythologyGag and a way to CrossOver between the two shows without affecting each other's continuity too much. Most likely there will be a LetsYouAndHimFight moment since the last thing the Silverhawks remember will probably be Mumm-Ra invading with the Cats and other [[BeastMan Beast Men]]. They'll probably function as allies for the Thundercats and help them better understand the technology as well as the universe outside the planet, with the hope that one day the Thundercats and other species will be able to rebuild the technology for space travel and find where they once came from.

[[WMG: The versions of the Thundercats Lion-O encounters in "The Return of Lion-O" two parter are the Ancient Spirits of Evil]]

Which will makes things that much harder for the Thundercats since none of them will have a clue how to activate it.

In the ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}} [=ThunderCats (2011)=]]]'' party pack, a choice for a trivia question is Rat Eye Daggers, the weapons Rataro used in the OS. While it heavily hints that Rataro will appear, it also implies that it's in a way related to the Sword of Omens and Sword of Plun-Darr. An image of the Eye of Thundera shows it as a raw, uncarved gem, so it's highly likely that these stones are implanted into weapons to give them magical properties.

[[WMG: The Thundercats will encounter the civilization that created the Eye of Thundera]]

[[WMG: The series will be a prequel to the original ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats}} [=ThunderCats=]]]'']]

** The second, "Sequel Theory" seems more probably seeing as the planet they're on already happens to be Third Earth and there's talk of how the "original" Thundercats founded their empire.

** The evidence for that so far is confined to King Claudus making reference to an ancient band of Thunderian warriors who called themselves "Thundercats", whom he does not identify individually. If he reveals that Lion-O was named after the leader of these earlier Thundercats, then the theory gains credence, though it makes Lion-O II being best friends with Thunderians who just happen to share the names and appearances of the friend of the original Lion-O annoyingly coincidental.
** Here's how it could be: The series goes by alternate history where the original Thundercats came to Third Earth and populated it. But where the original series eventually restored Thundera, that never occurred in this timeline and instead the Cats settled completely on Third Earth. The Lizard men then settled as well, which is why they aren't called mutants anymore. As for Mumm-Ra, he may be the same, but now has a personal connection to the sword of Omens which he never had before.

** In regards to the whole Third Earth/Thundera theory: Thundera was indeed restored, but two possible outcomes played out; In one of them, the Thundercats decided to leave New Thundera to become the home for a new race, believing they were needed on Third Earth. Alternatively, after repopulating began, some Thunderians choose to return to their reborn homeworld, where they would be technologically advanced, while the other half remained on Third Earth and became the Thundercats seen in this series. In any case there's clearly another planetoid near Third Earth and it's definitely not the moon, which is there as well.

* ''Related Theory'': Thundercats and Beast-Men are DesignerBabies designed to survive outward colonization to escape as the Sun expanded into a Red Giant. Third Earth itself was somehow shifted to a stable orbit held in place between the gravity of Jupiter and the Sun. The lost technology implies an AfterTheEnd storyline, and the talk of ships that fly indicates space travel. The inclusion of animal DNA into human genetic codes may have been to ensure survival in the harsh new conditions. This could also explain the FantasticRacism, as those with tails were seen as being too far removed from their original human ancestors, and were relegated as second class citizens.

Perhaps Thundera in the new Thundercats cartoon is Megakat City (from ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats'') in Ancient Times. Must be a rather primitive version of the local. Think about it, they're populated by anthropomorphic cat people and they have their own set of heroes and will obviously go up against supernatural beings. Perhaps T-Bone and Razor had ancestors around that period.

[[WMG: The Thundercats are descended from Frankenstein of Series/RedDwarf.]]
The cat-people that evolved from Lister's cat - the group that left the 'Dwarf in search of paradise did not crash and die, but instead were picked up along the way by Mumm-Ra in a ship, genetically tweaked to bring out more of their feline traits and made to serve him.

[[WMG: Thundercats will have a huge female PeripheryDemographic.]]

As a sort of MythologyGag referring to the racy outtakes from the original ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats}} [=ThunderCats=]]]'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Silverhawks}}''.

** The protagonist of ''WesternAnimation/TheAmazingWorldOfGumball'', is a cat. Including his mother. That's enough explanation right there.[[hottip:*: No. No it is not.]]

* [[spoiler:Has been {{Jossed}}]] in "Legacy"]]

* Not if [[spoiler: Kaynar and Atticus]] have anything to say about it.

* [[spoiler: It would be the other way around at this point]]

* ''Alternate theory: This is a StealthSequel [[SequelSeries Series]]. The lead characters are the [[GenerationXerox descendants]]/reincarnations of the originals, except Mumm-Ra.''

** Terrifying if true. Would you really want ''drunken'' [[AIIsACrapshoot robot]] [[EverythingIsWorseWithBears bear]] mechanics?