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[[WMG: Melkor, Sauron and the Balrogs are [[VideoGame/UnrealI Skaarj]] and the entire history of Arda is a corrupt experiment of another alien race the Skaarj originally cooperated with but quickly betrayed to pursue their own goals.]]
The way Balrog was described very much matches how the Skaarj Warlord looks. And Balrogs are practically the same kind as Melkor and Sauron. Now consider how arrogant and power-hungry the Skaarj are. They fit the overlord role perfectly.
The thing began with some other alien race[[note]]possibly Protoss for their high morals and other reason I'll explain later[[/note]] allying themselves with the Skaarj, discovering the planet and conducting a genetic experiment to populate it. The Skaarj being Skaarj quickly betrayed them and started corrupting everything they could (which explains the Evil not actually being able to create anything original). All they wanted was a race of minions to plunder Arda's natural resources.
The way how Melkor and Sauron could manifest as graceful could be explained by using advanced technology like holographs or remote-controlled puppets/drones. Which could also explain their recovery after engineered disasters like the fall of Numenor.
The Night Gate through which Melkor was expelled was actually a portal leading either to the Mothership or more likely to some parallel plane of existence akin to [[VideoGame/Wolfenstein2009 Black Sun Dimension]]. Melkor still resides there controlling the operation as a puppeteer.
Sauron being too smart to risk his life in actual combat wasn't really killed in the final battle at Barad Dur. The being they defeated was actually also a clone or drone.
The Nazgul are actually an imperfect attempt of Skaarj to make Archons (which is the second reason of the "good" aliens being the Protoss).
Also the dragons weren't actually engineered on Arda. Instead they were brought in from another planet.
The way Balrog was described very much matches how the Skaarj Warlord looks. And Balrogs are practically the same kind as Melkor and Sauron. Now consider how arrogant and power-hungry the Skaarj are. They fit the overlord role perfectly.
The thing began with some other alien race[[note]]possibly Protoss for their high morals and other reason I'll explain later[[/note]] allying themselves with the Skaarj, discovering the planet and conducting a genetic experiment to populate it. The Skaarj being Skaarj quickly betrayed them and started corrupting everything they could (which explains the Evil not actually being able to create anything original). All they wanted was a race of minions to plunder Arda's natural resources.
The way how Melkor and Sauron could manifest as graceful could be explained by using advanced technology like holographs or remote-controlled puppets/drones. Which could also explain their recovery after engineered disasters like the fall of Numenor.
The Night Gate through which Melkor was expelled was actually a portal leading either to the Mothership or more likely to some parallel plane of existence akin to [[VideoGame/Wolfenstein2009 Black Sun Dimension]]. Melkor still resides there controlling the operation as a puppeteer.
Sauron being too smart to risk his life in actual combat wasn't really killed in the final battle at Barad Dur. The being they defeated was actually also a clone or drone.
The Nazgul are actually an imperfect attempt of Skaarj to make Archons (which is the second reason of the "good" aliens being the Protoss).
Also the dragons weren't actually engineered on Arda. Instead they were brought in from another planet.
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[[WMG:Frodo was actually more badass than what the books had told.]]
But since he wrote the story and was a humble hero, he gave all the credit to his friends.
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[[WMG:Hobbits are reformed Orcs]]
Specifically, they were a group of Orcs who, after the defeat of Melkor, split off from the rest of the Orcs and became more "friendly" through their isolation. By the time they had been discovered by the Races of Men and Elves they had basically become indistinguishable from them. We know that the smaller Orcs, the Goblins, have similar heights to the Hobbits, and we know that Hobbits and Orcs/Goblins have voracious appetites. Hobbits and Orcs/Goblins both tend to live simple lives, though the latter are more easily driven to war by Dark Forces. The Hobbits peculiar ability to reject the dark powers of Sauron's ring (longer then most other races could) could show the connection of the Hobbits to the Dark Forces of Sauron and Melkor. There is the problem that, in Tolkein's lore, Evil could not create Good things, though I would argue that the Hobbits could have made themselves good, especially without the influence of Melkor's forces and surrounded by the good forces of Illuvatar. Finally, if Hobbits are a reformed race of Goblins, then that would mean that the Hobbits are really ''Hobgoblins''.
Specifically, they were a group of Orcs who, after the defeat of Melkor, split off from the rest of the Orcs and became more "friendly" through their isolation. By the time they had been discovered by the Races of Men and Elves they had basically become indistinguishable from them. We know that the smaller Orcs, the Goblins, have similar heights to the Hobbits, and we know that Hobbits and Orcs/Goblins have voracious appetites. Hobbits and Orcs/Goblins both tend to live simple lives, though the latter are more easily driven to war by Dark Forces. The Hobbits peculiar ability to reject the dark powers of Sauron's ring (longer then most other races could) could show the connection of the Hobbits to the Dark Forces of Sauron and Melkor. There is the problem that, in Tolkein's lore, Evil could not create Good things, though I would argue that the Hobbits could have made themselves good, especially without the influence of Melkor's forces and surrounded by the good forces of Illuvatar. Finally, if Hobbits are a reformed race of Goblins, then that would mean that the Hobbits are really ''Hobgoblins''.
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[[WMG: KingArthur is a corruption of the story of Aragorn becoming king of Gondor.]]
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Aside from that, my proof of this theory is that while it's stressed that Elves have a pretty solid resistance to evil, it was stressed in Lord of The Rings that they are not above it. Plus, how would elves that outright denied paradise have any idea of what exactly evil is?
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Aside from the orcs....[[MultipleChoicePast or not.]] Anyway there are Elves known as the Avari that refused to go to Valinor/Aman the first time around and thus moved extremely far from the sea, or at least Bereliand, some going to the far south and the far east. Guess where everyone's favorite master of evil makes his domain. They were called the Elves of Darkness or Dark Elves because they never saw the light of the two trees.
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Aside from the orcs....[[MultipleChoicePast or not.]] Anyway there are Elves known as the Avari that refused to go to Valinor/Aman the first time around and thus moved extremely far from the sea, or at least Bereliand, Beleriand, some going to the far south and the far east. Guess where everyone's favorite master of evil makes his domain. They were called the Elves of Darkness or Dark Elves because they never saw the light of the two trees.
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* I don't know, ringing back your omnicidal boss isn't a good way to bring about Order.
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* I don't know, ringing bringing back your omnicidal boss isn't a good way to bring about Order.
global order.
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[[WMG: LotR is propaganda. Sauron won the war.]]
Sauron wanted order. After the war, he got rid of all the other races, except the humans, which explains why they all disappeared or went into hiding. He then wrote the propaganda we know as LOTR, in which the "good guys" won, so people in the future would accept history as written and not try to fight it. He himself, having achieved what he saw as an orderly future, went dormant or into hiding, letting the rest of history play out.
Sure, history got violent plenty of times since then, but in his eyes that is fine, since it happens only between the humans, without elves, orcs or divine intervention. Without any "supernatural" influence left, everything that happened since then, follows strict rules and consequences are simply chains of comprehensible reactions, instead of literally interventions by gods or immortals.
This way, he achieved a sense of order. He set up the world like he wanted to, no higher power meddles with "his" world anymore and no one questions it, because everyone thinks the good guys won.
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Creatures like orcs and elves came about as the military's attempts at creating bio-weapons to aid in battle. Orcs were their first attempt, but failed miserably due to them being super-strong, but incredibly dumb and easy to kill. Elves came next, designed to just be [[OurElvesAreBetter better than humans at everything]]. This worked well at first, but unlike orcs, the elves had minds of their own, and didn't like being treated like property. This lead to a rebellion war which the elves naturally won.
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Creatures like orcs and elves came about as the military's attempts at creating bio-weapons to aid in battle. Orcs were their first attempt, but failed miserably due to them being super-strong, but incredibly dumb and easy to kill. Elves came next, designed to just be [[OurElvesAreBetter [[SuperiorSpecies better than humans at everything]]. This worked well at first, but unlike orcs, the elves had minds of their own, and didn't like being treated like property. This lead to a rebellion war which the elves naturally won.
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* The text is rather explicite that they're shock and awe weapons. They glow blue/silver with a light like to Telperion's to burn the eyes and skin of orcs, goblins, trolls, and other serventsand Morgtoh and Sauron. They also alert their users to the presence of their enemies and light the battlefield so their wielders can see even if Morgoth or Sauron has darkned the sky itself. Elvish swords are only ever about killing good.
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* The text is rather explicite that they're shock and awe weapons. They glow blue/silver with a light like to Telperion's to burn the eyes and skin of orcs, goblins, trolls, and other serventsand servents of Morgtoh and Sauron. They also alert their users to the presence of their enemies and light the battlefield so their wielders can see even if Morgoth or Sauron has darkned the sky itself. Elvish swords are only ever about killing good.
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* The text is rather explicite that they're shock and awe weapons. They glow blue/silver with a light like to Telperion's to burn the eyes and skin of orcs, goblins, trolls, and other serventsand Morgtoh and Sauron. They also alert their users to the presence of their enemies and light the battlefield so their wielders can see even if Morgoth or Sauron has darkned the sky itself. Elvish swords are only ever about killing good.
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[[WMG: The troll that nearly killed Aragorn is possessed by Sauron, or even an avatar of Sauron himself]]
Even though Jackson's original idea of Sauron duelling Aragorn is ultimately cut, the mere fact that the troll appeared hardwired into killing Aragorn and then fleeing blindly once the Ring is destroyed seems to be a subtle compromise.
Even though Jackson's original idea of Sauron duelling Aragorn is ultimately cut, the mere fact that the troll appeared hardwired into killing Aragorn and then fleeing blindly once the Ring is destroyed seems to be a subtle compromise.
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[[WMG: Gollum's death wasn't accidental on his part, rather it was a HeroicSacrifice]]
For a story that heavily themes itself around corruption and temptation, it's missing a rather noticeable piece of it; redemption. It makes perfect thematic sense for the story to end with a character finally resisting evil and deciding to destroy the one ring and himself. Gollum "accidentally" falling into the fires is a complete cop-out compared to him actively resisting the ring enough to destroy it and himself, even if only for an instant. Gandalf's quote about Gollum having some part to play, be it good or evil, implies direct agency on Gollum's part; as he was responsible for his evil acts, so too was he responsible for his one good one.
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[[WMG:"Gollum" is what happens to Hobbits that turn evil]]
It is usually assumed that the Gollum we get to know in the books and movies (and whatnot) became the way he is now because he was corrupted by the One Ring. Living under its influence for hundreds of years turned him into a wretched creature who had lost its mind... but what if it wasn't the Ring's influence that made this happen (or at least not directly)?
The only two characters we see who possess the Ring for several years are Bilbo and Gollum (or Sméagol), who are both Hobbits. Bilbo actually shows signs of becoming like Gollum himself twice in ''The Fellowship of the Ring'': In the very first chapter, when Gandalf demands that Bilbo gives up the Ring, he refers to it as "his precious". Later, in Rivendell, when Bilbo and Frodo meets again, Bilbo asks Frodo to show him the Ring and tries to take it from him, upon which he appears to Frodo as "a little wrinkled creature with a hungry face and bony groping hands", possibly implying that, for a short time, Bilbo resembled Gollum; note that this is before Frodo meets Gollum for the first time.
While it is absolutely possible that this "transformation" is the power of the Ring corrupting Bilbo the way it might have done with Sméagol (although Bilbo did not actually possess the Ring in Rivendell), here is another theory: While Hobbits in general are rather good-natured, if one of their own ''were'' to turn evil, their body and mind would change the way Gollum's did. Hobbits are notoriously unambitious, so even the worst of them are at most unpleasant, instead of outright evil. It took an immense evil influence, as the Ring was one, to turn Sméagol, and almost Bilbo, into the wicked, shady counterparts of the Hobbits.
Keeping that in mind, it would make sense that the Hobbits live such a simple, carefree and unambitious life. Keep yourself content with the simple pleasures, and don't get any silly ideas about wanting fame and fortune, as these are just a possible pathway towards a life of evil, which will turn you into a monster. In Bilbo's day and age, these stories are mostly forgotten, or regarded as cautionary fairy tales, instead of something that might have been a common occurence many centuries ago.
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* There's a passage early in the ''The Return of the King'' that could support this theory for both Faramir and Denethor. After Denethor finishes questioning Pippin, Gandalf tells Pippin that Denethor was able to read a lot between his words because "by some chance the blood of Westernesse runs nearly true in him; as it does in his other son, Faramir," and that "[h]e can perceive, if he bends his will thither, much of what is passing in the minds of men, even of those that dwell far off." Granted, the latter part may be due to his use of the palantir, but he wasn't doing that while talking to Pippin in person.
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* In TheHobbit, Eagles talk about being shot down by farmers and shepherds for stealing sheep. They wouldnt't have gotten very far in Mordor - the only reason why they did so much in Return of the King was because they had Gondor's army on the ground, and the ring had just been destroyed as well.
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* In TheHobbit, Literature/TheHobbit, Eagles talk about being shot down by farmers and shepherds for stealing sheep. They wouldnt't have gotten very far in Mordor - the only reason why they did so much in Return of the King was because they had Gondor's army on the ground, and the ring had just been destroyed as well.
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* Lindo. He's the first and the eldest. And he tells stories that go back to the beginning of creation. And Vairë is Goldberry.
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Unfortunately, history is written by the victors, and Aragorn commissioned ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' to be written from the perspective of the Hobbits, to re-interpret the historical record and create an extensive hagiography for Gandalf. (In reality, it was compiled in Minas Tirith, at least 60 years after the Hobbits are said to have lived.)
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Unfortunately, history is written by the victors, and Aragorn commissioned ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' to be written from the perspective of the Hobbits, to re-interpret the historical record and create an extensive hagiography for Gandalf. (In reality, it was compiled in Minas Tirith, at least 60 years after the Hobbits are said to have lived.)
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In the film canon, Radagast dies at some point before Gandalf's imprisonment in Isengard. Instead of [[TookALevelInBadass leveling up]] like Gandalf does, the brown wizard opts to return as a moth. In that form, he is able to carry messages to the eagles and is indirectly responsible for saving [[spoiler: Gandalf from Isengard and Sam and Frodo from Mount Doom]]. That possibility would explain why Radagast never appears in the Film/LordOfTheRings films, but is a character in Film/TheHobbit movie.
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In the film canon, Radagast dies at some point before Gandalf's imprisonment in Isengard. Instead of [[TookALevelInBadass leveling up]] like Gandalf does, the brown wizard opts to return as a moth. In that form, he is able to carry messages to the eagles and is indirectly responsible for saving [[spoiler: Gandalf from Isengard and Sam and Frodo from Mount Doom]]. That possibility would explain why Radagast never appears in the Film/LordOfTheRings Film/TheLordOfTheRings films, but is a character in Film/TheHobbit movie.
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Sure, he ended up being utterly destroyed at the end of the Third Age, but even death may die, [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos through strange eons]]. Millions of years after the War of the Ring, Sauron reconstitutes himself into a new form. He lacks his former armies, and Mordor fell to the wayside epochs ago, but his MindControl and [[NightOfTheLivingMooks ability to raise up a few minions]] were retained, along with a [[DarkIsEdgy few]] [[BodyHorror new]] [[BloodyMurder powers]].
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Sure, he ended up being utterly destroyed at the end of the Third Age, but even death may die, [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos through strange eons]]. Millions of years after the War of the Ring, Sauron reconstitutes himself into a new form. He lacks his former armies, and Mordor fell to the wayside epochs ago, but his MindControl and [[NightOfTheLivingMooks ability to raise up a few minions]] were retained, along with a [[DarkIsEdgy [[CastingAShadow few]] [[BodyHorror new]] [[BloodyMurder powers]].
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* May I direct you to [[http://legacy.owensboro.kctcs.edu/crunyon/Tolkien/hobbit/waht%20are%20hobbits.htm this]]?
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[[WMG: We absolutely met Radagast in person, when he was going by the name "Beorn".]]
* But he had not seen Gandalf in many years, and so did not immediately recognize his now–aged appearance, nor know him by the name "Gandalf", which is why Gandalf had to name–drop his "cousin" Radagast to clue Beorn into his identity without explaining it outright in front of Bilbo. This also explains why Gandalf seemed to describe him as an old acquaintance to the dwarves, only to back–peddle hard when Beorn didn't know him at all. Think about it: Beorn is able to magically change shape, without any explanation whatsoever; Radagast is referred to "a master of shapes and hues". Radagast is a noted friend of the animals of Middle–Earth, caring little for its people, while Beorn loves his animals "as his children" and is as antisocial as they come. Both live in Mirkwood, Radagast in Rhosgobel and Beorn in an unnamed hall, and neither travel very far from their home unless it is very important to do so. And Beorn, beyond his general antipathy for other people, is a special enemy to the goblins, the soldiers of Sauron. The eagles even knew to deposit the dwarves (and Bilbo, and Gandalf) at the Carrick, implying that they knew of Beorn and that he would be a friend to Gandalf, even though Beorn seemed not to know Gandalf at all and to be very dangerous besides. In ''The Fellowship of the Rings'', we learn that the eagles are used to working with Radagast, explaining this otherwise very strange choice.
** Incidentally, the story Gandalf told the dwarves about Beorn's origins was a lie he made up on the spot to protect his friend's privacy, which is why it sticks out like a sore thumb when the usually–silver tongued Gandalf stumbles over it.
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* [[FanFic/MyImmortal Lord Voldemort.]] This would suggest that Middle-Earth is, in fact, the limbo where Voldemort was sent after his defeat, and the fetus-like form his fragmented soul took eventually evolved into a small man once Voldemort started repenting his crimes.
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* [[FanFic/MyImmortal [[Fanfic/MyImmortal Lord Voldemort.]] This would suggest that Middle-Earth is, in fact, the limbo where Voldemort was sent after his defeat, and the fetus-like form his fragmented soul took eventually evolved into a small man once Voldemort started repenting his crimes.
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Morgoth captured elves and tortured them, but did not torture them into orcs, he just took their blood and grew the elves artificially. But the process isn't perfect, so the clone elves come out twisted into orcs.
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[[WMG:The wizards initially were clones]]
The narration describe Gandalf and Saruman as looking almost alike, and Gimli comments on it. When the wizards were sent down to Middle-Earth they looked identical. It's only the effect of thousands of years being exposed to the elements would have on a human body that makes the wizards look different at all by the time of the War of the Ring. That's why they put so much importance in their color designation, it was originally the only way to differentiate the wizards.
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[[WMG: Had Rankin-Bass done ''Fellowship'', Isildur's failure in the Sammath Naur would have been accompanied by an early appearance of "The Bearer of the Ring, the Wearer of the Ring".]]
"The bearer of the Ring, the wearer of the Ring,/He hears a voice compelling him/Filling him with thoughts that echo in his mind/It should be telling him/Beware, the power is a power never known/Beware, the power that was simple has now grown/Beware, O, bearer of the Ring/The final power has yet to be shown!"
"The bearer of the Ring, the wearer of the Ring,/He hears a voice compelling him/Filling him with thoughts that echo in his mind/It should be telling him/Beware, the power is a power never known/Beware, the power that was simple has now grown/Beware, O, bearer of the Ring/The final power has yet to be shown!"
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**Shadows of Mordor [[spoiler: including some notable differences in the Ringwraith line-up]]
**War in the North
**The Two Towers and Return of the King (EA adaptations)
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**Shadows of Mordor [[spoiler: including some notable differences in the Ringwraith line-up]]
**War in the North
**The Two Towers and Return of the King (EA adaptations)
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The Elves and Valar are nice enough that they won't leave the World without a parting gift.
* The Elves are the world of Arda given sentience and form, when they leave the main continent they are not taking magic with them, they are taking themselves away, and as a consequence reality will not be so sharply bent without them around. You don't "find" and "use" magic, you are the magic. It's your own personal relationship with the universe, and the Elves being a personification of the planet, are one with it. Man has a different kind of relationship with reality, he bends fate itself, which is Eru's will - that's something even the Valar are not capable of, Melkor being a good example.
** Oh, well that's kinda lame.
The Elves and Valar are nice enough that they won't leave the World without a parting gift.
* The Elves are the world of Arda given sentience and form, when they leave the main continent they are not taking magic with them, they are taking themselves away, and as a consequence reality will not be so sharply bent without them around. You don't "find" and "use" magic, you are the magic. It's your own personal relationship with the universe, and the Elves being a personification of the planet, are one with it. Man has a different kind of relationship with reality, he bends fate itself, which is Eru's will - that's something even the Valar are not capable of, Melkor being a good example.
** Oh, well that's kinda lame.
