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[[WMG: This show and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' are an attempt to create a [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse Marvel Animated Universe]]]]

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* It seems likely that Disney will eventually release a Marvel DVD attracting the boys who won't watch ''Franchise/DisneyFairies''. Maybe this one could adapt ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' or compile an arc's episodes.
** Civil War is unlikely, at least for now. In the comics, with the full Marvel Universe at their disposal, they could organize both a huge group of pro-registration and anti-registration, and it made sense to deem their conflict a "Civil War". With just eight avengers and two agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. we can not make a decent "civil war", just a mere internal conflict. It may be possible in the future, as the seasons keep introducing new characters.

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* It seems likely that Disney will eventually release a Marvel DVD attracting the boys who won't watch ''Franchise/DisneyFairies''. Maybe this one could adapt ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' ''ComicBook/CivilWar2006'' or compile an arc's episodes.
** Civil War ''Civil War'' is unlikely, at least for now. In the comics, with the full Marvel Universe at their disposal, they could organize both a huge group of pro-registration and anti-registration, and it made sense to deem their conflict a "Civil War". With just eight avengers and two agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. we can not make a decent "civil war", just a mere internal conflict. It may be possible in the future, as the seasons keep introducing new characters.




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** Jossed.
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[[WMG: This ''literally'' is the Marvel equivalent of the Franchise/{{DCAU}}.]]

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[[WMG: This ''literally'' is the Marvel equivalent of the Franchise/{{DCAU}}.Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse.]]
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Probably Mockingbird, since she was already 'mentioned.' Any other possibilities are yours to guess...[[YouShouldKnowThisAlready but it's probably not]] [[TheMole Black Widow]].

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Probably Mockingbird, since she was already 'mentioned.' Any other possibilities are yours to guess...[[YouShouldKnowThisAlready [[LateArrivalSpoiler but it's probably not]] [[TheMole Black Widow]].
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** [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready She was saying that to get them off the topic.]]

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** [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready She was saying that to get them off the topic.]]
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*** Because Bucky was Cap's sidekick while Jack Fury was his superior. He might have more inclination to listen to the seasoned veteran than he does the kid. Also the "Spirits" included James Howlett, AKA {{Wolverine}} and you know ''damn well'' that he isn't dead.

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*** Because Bucky was Cap's sidekick while Jack Fury was his superior. He might have more inclination to listen to the seasoned veteran than he does the kid. Also the "Spirits" included James Howlett, AKA {{Wolverine}} ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} and you know ''damn well'' that he isn't dead.



* [[{{Wolverine}} Logan's]] appeared already and was a friend of Cap's ''and'' has been an Avenger in the comics; come Season Two it wouldn't be a stretch to see him doing some time as part of the team. The creative team may even finish some of the storylines they wanted to do in ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' like [[spoiler: Apocalypse taking over in the future]].

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* [[{{Wolverine}} [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Logan's]] appeared already and was a friend of Cap's ''and'' has been an Avenger in the comics; come Season Two it wouldn't be a stretch to see him doing some time as part of the team. The creative team may even finish some of the storylines they wanted to do in ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' like [[spoiler: Apocalypse taking over in the future]].
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There was a halfhearted attempt at this in the 1990s with ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/XMen'', ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFour'', ''WesternAnimation/IronMan'', and ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibleHulk1996''; but there were too many showrunners and production companies involved to pull it off then. ''Wolverine and the X-Men'' and ''Avengers'' share the same production team. With The DCAU effectively ended with the conclusion of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', there is now an opening.

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There was a halfhearted attempt at this in the 1990s with ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/XMen'', ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFour'', ''WesternAnimation/IronMan'', ''WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFourTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/IronManTheAnimatedSeries'', and ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibleHulk1996''; but there were too many showrunners and production companies involved to pull it off then. ''Wolverine and the X-Men'' and ''Avengers'' share the same production team. With The DCAU effectively ended with the conclusion of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', there is now an opening.
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* To go into more detail, he probably planned the breakout, possibly manipulating HYDRA into it. According to the Headscratchers page, he sent the Wrecking Crew to get the gamma emitter, which would have lead them to the Leader. He got Enchantress to form the Masters of Evil. He chose a mistress that is canonically [[FoeYay head over heels]] for [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]], and thus would stop at nothing to [[StalkerWithACrush make him hers]]. He may have twisted Baron Zemo's knowledge of Hawkeye and Black Panther to make them lose. Why? Perhaps because his brother is pissed off at his father and thus avoiding Asgard, and Loki wants him to ''stay'' that way so his plan can commence...

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* To go into more detail, he probably planned the breakout, possibly manipulating HYDRA into it. According to the Headscratchers page, he sent the Wrecking Crew to get the gamma emitter, which would have lead them to the Leader. He got Enchantress to form the Masters of Evil. He chose a mistress that is canonically [[FoeYay head over heels]] heels for [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]], and thus would stop at nothing to [[StalkerWithACrush make him hers]]. He may have twisted Baron Zemo's knowledge of Hawkeye and Black Panther to make them lose. Why? Perhaps because his brother is pissed off at his father and thus avoiding Asgard, and Loki wants him to ''stay'' that way so his plan can commence...



* Madame Viper might pull HeelFaceTurn, considering the amount of FoeYay between her and Captain America in episodes she appears in and considering that she is a lot less homicidal and AxCrazy than in the comics. She will form EnemyMine with Captain America again and will work together to stop Dormammu. When Dormammu tries to kill her, Captain America shows up and saves her. After they defeat Dormammu, Viper will try to kill Cap, but she would not be able to go throught with that even though she has a perfect opportunity to finish Cap. From that point onward Viper will be more hesitant to kill Cap in her future episodes. Near the end of the season, Cap will defeat HYDRA, but Viper will escape. In the finale, Surtur will enslave her and she will battle with Cap, but Cap will free her from his control. After all these times where Cap saved her life and the fact that he is willing to risk his life for her, even though they are enemies, Viper will abandon her hate of superheroes and will join Cap in the final battle with Surtur and will finally pull a HeelFaceTurn. She could either make a HeroicSacrifice RedemptionEqualsDeath where she will save Cap's life and will sacrifice herself to stop Surtur and will tell Cap that she is thankful that he saved her life several times and is the only person that showed compassion to her or she could stay alive and in the end of the series she might share kiss with Cap. Her backstory will also be revealed and we will also find out how she got scars on her face and how she came to hate superheroes. I'm not familiar with Viper's backstory in the comics so i might be missing something. This idea might sound a little stupid, but i think it would be great to see it.

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* Madame Viper might pull HeelFaceTurn, considering the amount of FoeYay tension between her and Captain America in episodes she appears in and considering that she is a lot less homicidal and AxCrazy than in the comics. She will form EnemyMine with Captain America again and will work together to stop Dormammu. When Dormammu tries to kill her, Captain America shows up and saves her. After they defeat Dormammu, Viper will try to kill Cap, but she would not be able to go throught with that even though she has a perfect opportunity to finish Cap. From that point onward Viper will be more hesitant to kill Cap in her future episodes. Near the end of the season, Cap will defeat HYDRA, but Viper will escape. In the finale, Surtur will enslave her and she will battle with Cap, but Cap will free her from his control. After all these times where Cap saved her life and the fact that he is willing to risk his life for her, even though they are enemies, Viper will abandon her hate of superheroes and will join Cap in the final battle with Surtur and will finally pull a HeelFaceTurn. She could either make a HeroicSacrifice RedemptionEqualsDeath where she will save Cap's life and will sacrifice herself to stop Surtur and will tell Cap that she is thankful that he saved her life several times and is the only person that showed compassion to her or she could stay alive and in the end of the series she might share kiss with Cap. Her backstory will also be revealed and we will also find out how she got scars on her face and how she came to hate superheroes. I'm not familiar with Viper's backstory in the comics so i might be missing something. This idea might sound a little stupid, but i think it would be great to see it.
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* We'll have to wait and see, but if ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' ends up taking place in the same universe, this could be confirmed.

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* We'll have to wait and see, but if ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Ultimate Spider-Man]]'' ends up taking place in the same universe, this could be confirmed.



** But Marvel Animation has pushed back the second season so it would coincide with the premiere of ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' even though season 2 is almost completed.

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** But Marvel Animation has pushed back the second season so it would coincide with the premiere of ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Ultimate Spider-Man]]'' even though season 2 is almost completed.



** There will be crossovers with WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}} and ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperHeroSquadShow''.

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** There will be crossovers with WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}} [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Ultimate Spider-Man]] and ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperHeroSquadShow''.
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** Though Fury is voiced by someone different too(Chi McBride)

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** Though Fury is voiced by someone different too(Chi McBride)[=McBride=])
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* What about {{ComicBook/Luke Cage|Hero For Hire}} and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]]: adults in EMH and teens in USM

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* What about {{ComicBook/Luke Cage|Hero For Hire}} ComicBook/LukeCage and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]]: ComicBook/IronFist: adults in EMH and teens in USM

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And that reason is that the universe was consumed by [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Darkness]], and most of the Avengers fell trying to fight it. Only the core members, some of the other heroes, and a few villains even survived: everyone else is either dead or a Heartless.
(Hey, it's called WILD Mass Guessing for a reason.)

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And that reason is that the universe was consumed by [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Darkness]], and most of the Avengers fell trying to fight it. Only the core members, some of the other heroes, and a few villains even survived: everyone else is either dead or a Heartless. \n (Hey, it's called WILD Mass Guessing for a reason.)
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[[WMG: This series takes place in the same universe as ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''.]]

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[[WMG: This series takes place in the same universe as ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''.''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009''.]]



* This show has some of the same writers ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' did, so this is possible.

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* This show has some of the same writers ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' did, so this is possible.



[[WMG: This show and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' are an attempt to create a [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse Marvel Animated Universe]]]]

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[[WMG: This show and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' are an attempt to create a [[Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse Marvel Animated Universe]]]]



** Fury in Avengers is different from Fury in ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'', and yet they're [[WordOfGod confirmed]] to be one and the same. Maybe he got tired of the white hair and got a haircut. Also, no one said it has to take place at the same time, just in the same universe. Ultimate Spider-Man may even take place ''before'' Avengers.

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** Fury in Avengers is different from Fury in ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'', ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'', and yet they're [[WordOfGod confirmed]] to be one and the same. Maybe he got tired of the white hair and got a haircut. Also, no one said it has to take place at the same time, just in the same universe. Ultimate Spider-Man may even take place ''before'' Avengers.



* Scarlett Witch, thus bringing this show and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' closer together.

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* Scarlett Witch, thus bringing this show and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' closer together.



Besides the fact that it takes place in the same universe as ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'', they've been dropping hints left and right. Mention of the Mutant Response Division, a newspaper article on a Secret School for mutants, and Mahr Vell's mention of an anomaly in humans that he's been studying as a Xenobiologist. Besides, they've already shown at least two actual mutants, three if the theory that The Wasp is a mutant holds true.
* [[{{Wolverine}} Logan's]] appeared already and was a friend of Cap's ''and'' has been an Avenger in the comics; come Season Two it wouldn't be a stretch to see him doing some time as part of the team. The creative team may even finish some of the storylines they wanted to do in ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' like [[spoiler: Apocalypse taking over in the future]].

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Besides the fact that it takes place in the same universe as ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'', ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'', they've been dropping hints left and right. Mention of the Mutant Response Division, a newspaper article on a Secret School for mutants, and Mahr Vell's mention of an anomaly in humans that he's been studying as a Xenobiologist. Besides, they've already shown at least two actual mutants, three if the theory that The Wasp is a mutant holds true.
* [[{{Wolverine}} Logan's]] appeared already and was a friend of Cap's ''and'' has been an Avenger in the comics; come Season Two it wouldn't be a stretch to see him doing some time as part of the team. The creative team may even finish some of the storylines they wanted to do in ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' like [[spoiler: Apocalypse taking over in the future]].



* If they're anything like the ones in ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'', that may be a good thing. Or not, if they were holding Juggernaut or Magneto.

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* If they're anything like the ones in ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'', ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'', that may be a good thing. Or not, if they were holding Juggernaut or Magneto.



* ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' takes place after ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes'' due to the Kang timeline, which was replaced with Sentinel timeline after ''Operation Galactic Storm''.

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* ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' takes place after ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes'' due to the Kang timeline, which was replaced with Sentinel timeline after ''Operation Galactic Storm''.
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* Okay, I know we long know who did it and the show's been over fore years, but given that the whole Breakout origin is based on New Avengers serieious, is no one gonna mention '''Electro''', the guy that did it in the comics?
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[[WMG:Black Widow will be [[TheMole a mole]] after a HeelFaceTurn.]]

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[[WMG:Black Widow will be [[TheMole a mole]] {{Mole}} after a HeelFaceTurn.]]



** No, that would fit more with her being a ReverseMole the whole time- ''holy @$%#!'' If ''that'' becomes {{Canon}}, she could suddenly be a really interesting character. (Not that she wasn't already, ''but''...) Question ''is'', how would that work? How could her actions be explained into working for S.H.I.E.L.D.? Did [[ManipulativeBastard Fury]] tell her to do anything necessary to maintain her role? ''What will Hawkeye's reaction be?!''

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** No, that would fit more with her being a ReverseMole mole the whole time- ''holy @$%#!'' If ''that'' becomes {{Canon}}, she could suddenly be a really interesting character. (Not that she wasn't already, ''but''...) Question ''is'', how would that work? How could her actions be explained into working for S.H.I.E.L.D.? Did [[ManipulativeBastard Fury]] tell her to do anything necessary to maintain her role? ''What will Hawkeye's reaction be?!''



** ''Technically'' jossed by ''Hail Hydra'': she was a ReverseMole all along, so there was no need for a HeelFaceTurn to ditch Hydra.

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** ''Technically'' jossed by ''Hail Hydra'': she was a ReverseMole mole all along, so there was no need for a HeelFaceTurn to ditch Hydra.



*** True. The above WMG about her being a ReverseMole could be right.

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*** True. The above WMG about her being a ReverseMole good mole could be right.



[[WMG: The Black Widow is a ReverseMole]]

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[[WMG: The Black Widow is a ReverseMole]]good mole]]

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