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In the first Tekken game, Heihachi had no unique and independant voice, and instead shared exactly the same grunts and cries as the Jack series (Jack, P.Jack). Admittidly Ganryu had this as well, and because of limited memory all the bosses shared voices with the main 8 characters (sans Wang). But more clues seem to hint: Heihachi cannot seem to infuse ogre blood into his being, he has unnatural strength for a human (just like the Jack robots), waves of Heihachi clones appear in Tekken 5's bonus game 'Devil Within', Heihachi seems unaffected by the effects of old age. Presuming he is one, an exoskeleton protected by a construct of realistic skin, blood and hair, this allows him to bleed blood and for his hair to grow and change like a regular human. No mention is ever made of Heihachi's mother/his father Jinpachi's wife... maybe she never existed? Maybe Jinpachi was so determined to rebel against his Mishima instincts when running the Mishima Zaibatsu as it's CEO, so that he ran it in a dignified and kind way, that it took up all his efforts and time. Maybe he never met the right woman, and instead ordered to have an heir 'manufacted' instead. But as expected, the creation rebelled against him. Jinpachi built it to be 'too durable', much to his misfortune. Most Mishimas, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Jin, they all started out as kind souls until the devil gene made it's move. Granted the youngest we ever see Heihachi is 50ish, so we never see a flashback of him when he debatably was a 'kind soul'. But then, maybe that was deliberate, because there was no need to show Heihachi younger, because his personality wasn't at all different. This seems to be bypassed as Heihachi being the 'black sheep' of the family, but maybe there is more to it. In addition, although non canon, Heihachi appears as a much younger (although admittidly still middle aged, just not bald on the top) self, rather than the aged version of him last seen in Tekken 6, with no mention of why this new Heihachi has appeared, or where the old one vanished to. Reason... a new model?

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In the first Tekken game, Heihachi had no unique and independant voice, and instead shared exactly the same grunts and cries as the Jack series (Jack, P.Jack). Admittidly Ganryu had this as well, and because of limited memory all the bosses shared voices with the main 8 characters (sans Wang). But more clues seem to hint: Heihachi cannot seem to infuse ogre blood into his being, he has unnatural strength for a human (just like the Jack robots), waves of Heihachi clones appear in Tekken 5's bonus game 'Devil Within', Heihachi seems unaffected by the effects of old age. Presuming he is one, an exoskeleton protected by a construct of realistic skin, blood and hair, this allows him to bleed blood and for his hair to grow and change like a regular human. No mention is ever made of Heihachi's mother/his father Jinpachi's wife... maybe she never existed? Maybe Jinpachi was so determined to rebel against his Mishima instincts when running the Mishima Zaibatsu as it's CEO, so that he ran it in a dignified and kind way, that it took up all his efforts and time. Maybe he never met the right woman, and instead ordered to have an heir 'manufacted' instead. But as expected, the creation rebelled against him. Jinpachi built it to be 'too durable', much to his misfortune. Most Mishimas, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Jin, they all started out as kind souls until the devil gene made it's move. Granted the youngest we ever see Heihachi is 50ish, so we never see a flashback of him when he debatably was a 'kind soul'. But then, maybe that was deliberate, because there was no need to show Heihachi younger, because his personality wasn't at all different. This seems to be bypassed as Heihachi being the 'black sheep' of the family, but maybe there is more to it. In addition, although non canon, Heihachi appears as a much younger (although admittidly still middle aged, just not bald on the top) self, self in Tekken Tag Tournament 2, rather than the aged version of him last seen in Tekken 6, with no mention of why this new Heihachi has appeared, or where the old one vanished to. Reason... a new model?
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In the first Tekken game, Heihachi had no unique and independant voice, and instead shared exactly the same grunts and cries as the Jack series (Jack, P.Jack). Admittidly Ganryu had this as well, and because of limited memory all the bosses shared voices with the main 8 characters (sans Wang). But more clues seem to hint: Heihachi cannot seem to infuse ogre blood into his being, he has unnatural strength for a human (just like the Jack robots), waves of Heihachi clones appear in Tekken 5's bonus game 'Devil Within', Heihachi seems to be immune to old age. Presuming he is one, an exoskeleton protected by a construct of realistic skin, blood and hair, this allows him to bleed blood and for his hair to grow and change like a regular human. No mention is ever made of Heihachi's mother/his father Jinpachi's wife... maybe she never existed? Maybe Jinpachi was so determined to rebel against his Mishima instincts when running the Mishima Zaibatsu as it's CEO, so that he ran it in a dignified and kind way, that it took up all his efforts and time. Maybe he never met the right woman, and instead ordered to have an heir 'manufacted' instead. But as expected, the creation rebelled against him. Jinpachi built it to be 'too durable', much to his misfortune. Most Mishimas, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Jin, they all started out as kind souls until the devil gene made it's move. Granted the youngest we ever see Heihachi is 50ish, so we never see a flashback of him when he debatably was a 'kind soul'. But then, maybe that was deliberate, because there was no need to show Heihachi younger, because his personality wasn't at all different. This seems to be bypassed as Heihachi being the 'black sheep' of the family, but maybe there is more to it. In addition, although non canon, Heihachi appears as a much younger (although admittidly still middle aged, just not bald on the top) self, rather than the aged version of him last seen in Tekken 6, with no mention of why this new Heihachi has appeared, or where the old one vanished to. Reason... a new model?

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In the first Tekken game, Heihachi had no unique and independant voice, and instead shared exactly the same grunts and cries as the Jack series (Jack, P.Jack). Admittidly Ganryu had this as well, and because of limited memory all the bosses shared voices with the main 8 characters (sans Wang). But more clues seem to hint: Heihachi cannot seem to infuse ogre blood into his being, he has unnatural strength for a human (just like the Jack robots), waves of Heihachi clones appear in Tekken 5's bonus game 'Devil Within', Heihachi seems to be immune to unaffected by the effects of old age. Presuming he is one, an exoskeleton protected by a construct of realistic skin, blood and hair, this allows him to bleed blood and for his hair to grow and change like a regular human. No mention is ever made of Heihachi's mother/his father Jinpachi's wife... maybe she never existed? Maybe Jinpachi was so determined to rebel against his Mishima instincts when running the Mishima Zaibatsu as it's CEO, so that he ran it in a dignified and kind way, that it took up all his efforts and time. Maybe he never met the right woman, and instead ordered to have an heir 'manufacted' instead. But as expected, the creation rebelled against him. Jinpachi built it to be 'too durable', much to his misfortune. Most Mishimas, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Jin, they all started out as kind souls until the devil gene made it's move. Granted the youngest we ever see Heihachi is 50ish, so we never see a flashback of him when he debatably was a 'kind soul'. But then, maybe that was deliberate, because there was no need to show Heihachi younger, because his personality wasn't at all different. This seems to be bypassed as Heihachi being the 'black sheep' of the family, but maybe there is more to it. In addition, although non canon, Heihachi appears as a much younger (although admittidly still middle aged, just not bald on the top) self, rather than the aged version of him last seen in Tekken 6, with no mention of why this new Heihachi has appeared, or where the old one vanished to. Reason... a new model?
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In the first Tekken game, Heihachi had no unique and independant voice, and instead shared exactly the same grunts and cries as the Jack series (Jack, P.Jack). Admittidly Ganryu had this as well, and because of limited memory all the bosses shared voices with the main 8 characters (sans Wang). But more clues seem to hint: Heihachi cannot seem to infuse ogre blood into his being, he has unnatural strength for a human (just like the Jack robots), waves of Heihachi clones appear in Tekken 5's bonus game 'Devil Within', Heihachi seems to be immune to old age. Presuming he is one, an exoskeleton protected by a construct of realistic skin, blood and hair, this allows him to bleed blood and for his hair to grow and change like a regular human. No mention is ever made of Heihachi's mother/his father Jinpachi's wife... maybe she never existed? Maybe Jinpachi was so determined to rebel against his Mishima instincts when running the Mishima Zaibatsu as it's CEO, so that he ran it in a dignified and kind way, that it took up all his efforts and time. Maybe he never met the right woman, and instead ordered to have an heir 'manufacted' instead. But as expected, the creation rebelled against him. Jinpachi built it to be 'too durable', much to his misfortune. Most Mishimas, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Jin, they all started out as kind souls until the devil gene made it's move. Granted the youngest we ever see Heihachi is 50ish, so we never see a flashback of him when he debatably was a 'kind soul'. But then, maybe that was deliberate, because there was no need to show Heihachi younger, because his personality wasn't at all different. This seems to be bypassed as Heihachi being the 'black sheep' of the family, but maybe there is more to it. In addition, although non canon, Heihachi appears as a much younger (although admittidly still middle aged, just not bald on the top) self, rather than the aged version of him last seen in Tekken 6, with no mention of why this new Heihachi has appeared, or where the old one vanished to. Reason... a new model?

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* [[http://www.godisageek.com/2011/06/e3-tekken-tag-tournament-2-exclusive-details-series-preview/ Confirmed by]] [[WordOfGod Harada]]. Apparently, Julia is filling in for an injured friend.
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[[WMG:Jun was waiting for DukeNukum to return before she did.]]
Tekken 2 and Duke Nukum 3D came out about the same time. Tekken Tag Tournament and Manhatten Project both came out the same time, the last time they were in a game. For the next nine years there's teases and suggestions of both returning. Then in 2010 there's the big news of DukeNukumForever developments, so Jun appears in the movie. Then the game becomes official for this year. Just who should happen to be one of the characters in TTT2? Jun. She said that hell would freeze over before she was in a game again. Well CueTheFlyingPigs, Duke Nukum is back, and true to her word she makes her return as well.

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[[WMG:Jun was waiting for DukeNukum DukeNukem to return before she did.]]
Tekken 2 and Duke Nukum 3D came out about the same time. Tekken Tag Tournament and Manhatten Project both came out the same time, the last time they were in a game. For the next nine years there's teases and suggestions of both returning. Then in 2010 there's the big news of DukeNukumForever DukeNukemForever developments, so Jun appears in the movie. Then the game becomes official for this year. Just who should happen to be one of the characters in TTT2? Jun. She said that hell would freeze over before she was in a game again. Well CueTheFlyingPigs, Duke Nukum is back, and true to her word she makes her return as well.
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[[WMG:Jun was waiting for DukeNukum to return before she did.]]
Tekken 2 and Duke Nukum 3D came out about the same time. Tekken Tag Tournament and Manhatten Project both came out the same time, the last time they were in a game. For the next nine years there's teases and suggestions of both returning. Then in 2010 there's the big news of DukeNukumForever developments, so Jun appears in the movie. Then the game becomes official for this year. Just who should happen to be one of the characters in TTT2? Jun. She said that hell would freeze over before she was in a game again. Well CueTheFlyingPigs, Duke Nukum is back, and true to her word she makes her return as well.
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* It's probably safe to say you can stop speculating. The first footage that has emerged of Tekken Tag 2 during live gameplay has players using Jaycee and she's got Julia's moves (such as her signature elbow) while gaining a new stance system.
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** Simple: going by Tekken 5 and her attempts to dissuade King, they obviously know each other. It's simply a matter of saying something like King trained her. It's also a non-canon game that's also using a young Heihachi and human Jinpachi so luchadora Julia isn't that impossible.
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* And HOW is it possible? If that was Julia, when did she take lessons for Lucha Libre?
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[[WMG:Nina is named after the 'No Irish Need apply' sign.]]
It may be possible...She is Irish.Although the signs never existed in America...Supposedly.
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[[WMG:Jin is a grown-up [[CodeGeass Lelouch]]]]
Let's see, there's a theory about Lelouch is still alive. Maybe he faked his death just in case the world is not in peace.
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[[WMG: The "newcomer" in TTT2 is Julia Chang.]]

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[[WMG: The "newcomer" in TTT2 is Julia Chang.]]
Not this troper's personal opinion, given how wildly different her character is, but it should be noted that her medallion is identical to Julia's.
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[[WMG: Leo is transgender.]]
Specifically, he is a FTM transgender.
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Via character customisation, it is possible for her to gain black wings identical to Devil Jin's, albeit smaller. They are clearly not just decorations, you can see them move! Take a look at her character, a teenaged girl who, despite all efforts to raise her as a respectable young lady where not able to stop her uncovering an insatiable battle-lust and improbable fighting prowess. She takes out would-be kidnappers by accident (!), and is able to effortlessly adapt her gymnastics training into a competent streetfighting style, allowing her to go toe-to-toe with outright supernatural forces. The only reason he doesn't go axe-crazy is that she lacks the deep-seated hatred imbedded into the rest of the Mishima bloodline.
** Which, if correct, adds even more layers to her rivalry with Asuka (who bears the same holy power that Jun does/did). Although I'm not seeing Lili learning the truth without...[[GoMadFromTheRevelation breaking down]] [[{{Understatement}} a little]]...

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Via character customisation, it is possible for her to gain black wings identical to Devil Jin's, albeit smaller. They are clearly not just decorations, you can see them move! Take a look at her character, a teenaged girl who, despite all efforts to raise her as a respectable young lady where not able to stop her uncovering an insatiable battle-lust and improbable fighting prowess. She takes out would-be kidnappers by accident (!), and is able to effortlessly adapt her gymnastics training into a competent streetfighting style, allowing her to go toe-to-toe with outright supernatural forces. The only reason he she doesn't go axe-crazy is that she lacks the deep-seated hatred imbedded into the rest of the Mishima bloodline.
** * Which, if correct, adds even more layers to her rivalry with Asuka (who bears the same holy power that Jun does/did). Although I'm not seeing Lili learning the truth without...[[GoMadFromTheRevelation breaking down]] [[{{Understatement}} a little]]...
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** Which, if correct, adds even more layers to her rivalry with Asuka (who bears the same holy power that Jun does/did). Although I'm not seeing Lili learning the truth without...[[GoMadFromTheRevelation breaking down]] [[{{Understatement}} a little]]...
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[[WMG: Tekken is the future of both the [[SimCity]] and some fighting game series]]

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think about hehachi is the owner of a huge buisness, however unlike Sim City, it has a miltia, robots, scientists, etc.
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* I'd like to add to that by saying Taki is probably the ancestor of Kunimitsu. She shares some moves, stance and general attitude. Going by this logic, Taki's brother being Mitsurugi (according to the end of SC4) means that she is part of the Mishima Bloodline. My logic here is that if Maxi and Taki were lovers, then this could have contributed to Kuni fighting with a weapon which more sharpened nunchaku rather than a sword. Admittedly there isn't much connection between Yoshi and Taxi in Soul Calibur other than them being ninjas, but a lot could have happened during that time to cause it. Taki can even be customised with Kuni's mask in SC4 which seems to fit her slightly too well to be a coincidence.

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* I'd like to add to that by saying Taki is probably the ancestor of Kunimitsu. She shares some moves, stance and general attitude. Going by this logic, Taki's brother being Mitsurugi (according to the end of SC4) means that she is part of the Mishima Bloodline. My logic here is that if Maxi and Taki were lovers, then this could have contributed to Kuni fighting with a weapon which more resembles sharpened nunchaku rather than a sword. Admittedly there isn't much connection between Yoshi and Taxi in Soul Calibur other than them being ninjas, but a lot could have happened during that time to cause it. Taki can even be customised with Kuni's mask in SC4 which seems to fit her slightly too well to be a coincidence.
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* I'd like to add to that by saying Taki is probably the ancestor of Kunimitsu. She shares some moves, stance and general attitude. Going by this logic, Taki's brother being Mitsurugi (according to the end of SC4) means that she is part of the Mishima Bloodline. My logic here is that if Maxi and Taki were lovers, then this could have contributed to Kuni fighting with a weapon which more sharpened nunchaku rather than a sword. Admittedly there isn't much connection between Yoshi and Taxi in Soul Calibur other than them being ninjas, but a lot could have happened during that time to cause it. Taki can even be customised with Kuni's mask in SC4 which seems to fit her slightly too well to be a coincidence.
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[[WWG: The P. Jack in Tekken 2 was a prototype for Jack 3]]

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[[WMG: Heihachi DOES have the Devil Gene]]
It's one thing to survive a fall from a cliff. It's another to survive getting blown up by several self-destructing Jack units without so much as getting burned all over.
[[WMG: Paul and Guile from StreetFighter have the same hair stylist]]
Self explanitory.
[[WWM: The P. Jack in Tekken 2 was a prototype for Jack 3]]
With the data of the original P. Jack in it. It could explain why he has as completely different appearance.
[[WMG: A Mishima has to be murdered to awaken their Devil Form]]
Let's review: Kazuya was chucked off a cliff as a child when his Devil awoke. Then, we first see Jin's Devil form after he gets gunned down, followed by Heihachi shooting him in the head. Finally, Jinpachi was locked underground of Hon-Maru and possibly starved.
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* WordOfGod states that he is a great singer. Since it is possible to tell if someone is a great singer from their speaking voice, my guess is that they couldn't afford a voice actor with that sort of talent, especially for a relatively minor character.

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* WordOfGod states that he is a great singer. Since it is possible to tell if someone is a great singer from their speaking voice, my guess is that they couldn't afford a voice actor with that sort of talent, especially for a relatively minor character.
character. For a more story-related reason, he could be clamming up to save his voice.
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* WordOfGod states that he is a great singer. Since it is possible to tell if someone is a great singer from their speaking voice, my guess is that they couldn't afford a voice actor with that sort of talent, especially for a relatively minor character.
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[[WMG: Lili posesses the Devil Gene]]
Via character customisation, it is possible for her to gain black wings identical to Devil Jin's, albeit smaller. They are clearly not just decorations, you can see them move! Take a look at her character, a teenaged girl who, despite all efforts to raise her as a respectable young lady where not able to stop her uncovering an insatiable battle-lust and improbable fighting prowess. She takes out would-be kidnappers by accident (!), and is able to effortlessly adapt her gymnastics training into a competent streetfighting style, allowing her to go toe-to-toe with outright supernatural forces. The only reason he doesn't go axe-crazy is that she lacks the deep-seated hatred imbedded into the rest of the Mishima bloodline.
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* Chipping in to say I like to think Mitsurugi is a distant ancestor to the Mishimas. The hair, the attitude, the scars; surely he's their forerunner.

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