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** It isn't {{Jossed}} for just Eric beign Krang either. In fact, with him NOT being Shredder makes it work better. Now Eric isn't just a random guy created for the movie... he is secretly Krang, preparing for the Invasion.

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** It isn't {{Jossed}} for just Eric beign being Krang either. In fact, with him NOT being Shredder makes it work better. Now Eric isn't just a random guy created for the movie... he is secretly Krang, preparing for the Invasion.
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** It isn't {{Jossed}} for just Eric beign Krang either. In fact, with him NOT being Shredder makes it work better. Now Eric isn't just a random guy created for the movie... he is secretly Krang, preparing for the Invasion.
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[[WMG: The legendary hero was Hamoto Yoshi and the warlord was Oroku Saki, who is the Shredder seen in the first film. And as a previous WMG said, Splinter is the reincarnation of Hamoto ala IDW and they're just going for a slow reveal.]]

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[[WMG: The legendary hero was Hamoto Hamato Yoshi and the warlord was Oroku Saki, who is the Shredder seen in the first film. And as a previous WMG said, Splinter is the reincarnation of Hamoto Hamato ala IDW and they're just going for a slow reveal.]]



* A blink and you'll miss it visual references in the 2014 film of the 2012 Hamoto Crest on the Wall Scroll, it's on a Banner on the Hero's side.

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* A blink and you'll miss it visual references in the 2014 film of the 2012 Hamoto Hamato Crest on the Wall Scroll, it's on a Banner on the Hero's side.
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A blink and you'll visual references in the 2014 film of the 2012 Hamoto Crest on the Wall Scroll, it's on a Banner on the Hero's side.
Sheddder explicitly saying that Karai's version of the foot are weaker and lack training compared to his, implying there's an older version of the foot but they're no longer around. Also that he'd have to have armor that needed to be retrofitted, meaning it's possibly his own.
The fact both this film and IDW have elements of Splinter suddenly gaining awareness of himself after experimented on.
The Ooze is said to be of alien origin and the Shedder seemingly knows how to use it for curative means which lines up with IDW where the Ooze is used in several situations as a cure for illnesses (Most noticeably April's father who is confined to a wheelchair at first) and was provided by that version of Krang.
The original 2 writers and the director of the first film had talked openly about a sequel, that includes the parts for Casey, Bebop & Rocksteady of before the first one was in the bag. Most likely meaning they had a vision on how they wanted to progress this series/not a saving throw like a previous WMG suggested.

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A *A blink and you'll miss it visual references in the 2014 film of the 2012 Hamoto Crest on the Wall Scroll, it's on a Banner on the Hero's side.
Sheddder *Sheddder explicitly saying that Karai's version of the foot are weaker and lack training compared to his, implying there's an older version of the foot but they're no longer around. Also that he'd have to have armor that needed to be retrofitted, meaning it's possibly his own.
The *The fact both this film and IDW have elements of Splinter suddenly gaining awareness of himself after experimented on.
The *The Ooze is said to be of alien origin and the Shedder seemingly knows how to use it for curative means which lines up with IDW where the Ooze is used in several situations as a cure for illnesses (Most noticeably April's father who is confined to a wheelchair at first) and was provided by that version of Krang.
The *The original 2 writers and the director of the first film had talked openly about a sequel, that includes the parts for Casey, Bebop & Rocksteady of before the first one was in the bag. Most likely meaning they had a vision on how they wanted to progress this series/not a saving throw like a previous WMG suggested.
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I say this because several things:
1.A blink and you'll visual references in the 2014 film of the 2012 Hamoto Crest on the Wall Scroll.
2.Sheddder explicitly saying that Karai's version of the foot are weaker and lack training compared to his
3.The fact both this film and IDW have elements of Splinter suddenly gaining awareness of himself after experimented
4.The Ooze is said to be of alien origin and the shedder seemingly knows how to use it for curative means which lines up with IDW where Shedder has used the Ooze to keep himself healthy and was provide the IDW 's version of Krang.
5.The original 2 writers and the director had talked openly about a sequel, that includes the parts for Casey, Bebop & Rocksteady of before the first one was in the bag. Most likely meaning they had a vision on how they wanted to progress this series.

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I say this This because several things:
1.A blink and you'll visual references in the 2014 film of the 2012 Hamoto Crest on the Wall Scroll.
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Scroll, it's on a Banner on the Hero's side.
Sheddder explicitly saying that Karai's version of the foot are weaker and lack training compared to his
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his, implying there's an older version of the foot but they're no longer around. Also that he'd have to have armor that needed to be retrofitted, meaning it's possibly his own.
The fact both this film and IDW have elements of Splinter suddenly gaining awareness of himself after experimented
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experimented on.
The Ooze is said to be of alien origin and the shedder Shedder seemingly knows how to use it for curative means which lines up with IDW where Shedder has used the Ooze is used in several situations as a cure for illnesses (Most noticeably April's father who is confined to keep himself healthy a wheelchair at first) and was provide the IDW 's provided by that version of Krang.
5.The original 2 writers and the director of the first film had talked openly about a sequel, that includes the parts for Casey, Bebop & Rocksteady of before the first one was in the bag. Most likely meaning they had a vision on how they wanted to progress this series.series/not a saving throw like a previous WMG suggested.
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In the somewhat far future, Sacks' company buys / is bought out by Armadyne. Sacks uses the initial versions of the Med-Bays (which he pioneers with notes that he gathered from trying to recreate the mutagen) to restore himself to youth, and uses his company's research into power armor to create the autonomous robot police. Sacks takes over Armadyne and changes his identity, becoming John Carlyle and working on the technology to create Elysium.

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In the somewhat far future, Sacks' company buys / is bought out by Armadyne. Sacks uses the initial versions of the Med-Bays (which he pioneers with notes that he gathered from trying to recreate the mutagen) to restore himself to youth, and uses his company's research into power armor to create the autonomous robot police. Sacks takes over Armadyne and changes his identity, becoming John Carlyle and working on the technology to create Elysium.Elysium.

[[WMG: The legendary hero was Hamoto Yoshi and the warlord was Oroku Saki, who is the Shredder seen in the first film. And as a previous WMG said, Splinter is the reincarnation of Hamoto ala IDW and they're just going for a slow reveal.]]
I say this because several things:
1.A blink and you'll visual references in the 2014 film of the 2012 Hamoto Crest on the Wall Scroll.
2.Sheddder explicitly saying that Karai's version of the foot are weaker and lack training compared to his
3.The fact both this film and IDW have elements of Splinter suddenly gaining awareness of himself after experimented
4.The Ooze is said to be of alien origin and the shedder seemingly knows how to use it for curative means which lines up with IDW where Shedder has used the Ooze to keep himself healthy and was provide the IDW 's version of Krang.
5.The original 2 writers and the director had talked openly about a sequel, that includes the parts for Casey, Bebop & Rocksteady of before the first one was in the bag. Most likely meaning they had a vision on how they wanted to progress this series.
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For [=WMG=] regarding the entire franchise, go [[WMG/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles here]].

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For [=WMG=] regarding See WMG/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles for the entire franchise, go [[WMG/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles here]].
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For [=WMG=] regarding the entire franchise, go [[WMG/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles here]].

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In the somewhat far future, Sacks' company buys / is bought out by Armadyne. Sacks uses the initial versions of the Med-Bays (which he pioneers with notes that he gathered from trying to recreate the mutagen) to restore himself to youth, and uses his company's research into power armor to create the autonomous robot police. Sacks takes over Armadyne and changes his identity, becoming John Carlyle and working on the technology to create Elysium.

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In the somewhat far future, Sacks' company buys / is bought out by Armadyne. Sacks uses the initial versions of the Med-Bays (which he pioneers with notes that he gathered from trying to recreate the mutagen) to restore himself to youth, and uses his company's research into power armor to create the autonomous robot police. Sacks takes over Armadyne and changes his identity, becoming John Carlyle and working on the technology to create Elysium.
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* {{Jossed}}. Raphael ''and'' April were there during [[spoiler: the attack]], but Raph was [[spoiler: knocked unconscious pretty early on, and avoided being captured with his brothers]]. Afterwards, it's too chaotic, what with [[spoiler: the rush to rescue Leo, Donnie, and Mikey, and then stop the Shredder]], for much individual bonding.
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[[WMG: Eric Sacks is John Carlyle from 'Film/Elysium']]

In the somewhat far future, Sacks' company buys / is bought out by Armadyne. Sacks uses the initial versions of the Med-Bays (which he pioneers with notes that he gathered from trying to recreate the mutagen) to restore himself to youth, and uses his company's research into power armor to create the autonomous robot police. Sacks takes over Armadyne and changes his identity, becoming John Carlyle and working on the technology to create [[Film/Elysium]].

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[[WMG: Eric Sacks is John Carlyle from 'Film/Elysium']]

''Film/{{Elysium}}'']]

In the somewhat far future, Sacks' company buys / is bought out by Armadyne. Sacks uses the initial versions of the Med-Bays (which he pioneers with notes that he gathered from trying to recreate the mutagen) to restore himself to youth, and uses his company's research into power armor to create the autonomous robot police. Sacks takes over Armadyne and changes his identity, becoming John Carlyle and working on the technology to create [[Film/Elysium]].Elysium.
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[[WMG: Eric Sacks is John Carlyle from Elysium]]

Sacks' company buys / is bought out by Armadyne. Sacks uses the initial versions of the Med-Bays (which he pioneers with notes that he gathered from trying to recreate the mutagen) to restore himself to youth, and uses his company's research into power armor to create the robot police. Sacks takes over Armadyne and changes his identity, becoming John Carlyle and working on the technology to create Elysium.

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[[WMG: Eric Sacks is John Carlyle from Elysium]]

'Film/Elysium']]

In the somewhat far future,
Sacks' company buys / is bought out by Armadyne. Sacks uses the initial versions of the Med-Bays (which he pioneers with notes that he gathered from trying to recreate the mutagen) to restore himself to youth, and uses his company's research into power armor to create the autonomous robot police. Sacks takes over Armadyne and changes his identity, becoming John Carlyle and working on the technology to create Elysium.[[Film/Elysium]].
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[[WMG: Eric Sacks is John Carlyle from Elysium]]

Sacks' company buys / is bought out by Armadyne. Sacks uses the initial versions of the Med-Bays (which he pioneers with notes that he gathered from trying to recreate the mutagen) to restore himself to youth, and uses his company's research into power armor to create the robot police. Sacks takes over Armadyne and changes his identity, becoming John Carlyle and working on the technology to create Elysium.
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[[WMG: Eric Sacks becomes the new Shredder]]
After falling 50 some stories, Shredder is irrepairably disabled. He asks Sacks, who has evaded prison (he was found unconscious with a gun but claimed that he was defending himself against the Foot Clan, and the only witnesses to say otherwise, April and Vern, have kept quiet to hide information about the turtles), to take on the mantle of leader of the Foot Clan before he succumbs to his injuries. Sacks designs a new mecha suit and vows revenge against the Ninja Turtles, Splinter, and April.
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**** There's talk of them appearing.
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[[WMG: Shredder will not be in the sequel]]
Admittedly unlikely, but at this stage it's possible that he ultimately dies of the fall or his armour protects him sufficiently to recover later on. He will be replaced by Krang, a promoted Karai or Bebop and Rocksteady will operate without a master.
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The Shredder turned it from a noble clan to a terrorist organization. He's a descendant of the warlord from legends.

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The Shredder turned it from a noble clan to a terrorist organization. He's Shedder is a descendant of the warlord from legends.the legend.
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[[WMG: The legendary hero was the founder of the Foot Clan.]]
The Shredder turned it from a noble clan to a terrorist organization. He's a descendant of the warlord from legends.

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** Jossed. Though she ''did'' fainted upon meeting the Turtles.
* Mikey saying "[[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles Can we keep her?]]"



* Mikey saying "[[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles Can we keep her?]]"
** Jossed.
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[[WMG: April will become a freelance reporter in the sequel.]]
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[[WMG: Karai survived and will appear in the sequel.]]
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** To be fair it is {{Jossed}} only for Eric. Not for the Shredder, it can possibly an Utrom in a human body vessel like in 2003 series.

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* Jossed. Splinter learned ninjitsu from a book. The rest might be true.


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[[WMG: Hamato Yoshi will appear in the sequel]]
Prior to the movie's events, he and the Shredder had a fight where the Shredder won and mistakenly assumed Yoshi perished. Yoshi survived but couldn't recover on time to appear in the first film. He'll appear in the sequel to search and destroy Foot Clan survivors and will meet the turtles. Upset that they learned ninjitsu from someone who learned it from a book, Yoshi will insist on teaching the five of them. Yoshi will be so much of a BadassNormal he'll defeat the five of them together.

[[WMG: Eric Sacks and the Shredder are a DecompositeCharacter]]
The Shredder retained his armor, his nickname, his abilities and his destructive nature while Eric became the CorruptCorporateExecutive and the person responsible for Splinter and the turtles becoming mutants. In fact, Eric Sacks is Oroku Saki after a RaceLift while the Shredder remained a Japanese.

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*** They might appear in the sequel.



** Jossed.



** Jossed.



* Another Reason could be that Splinter is Yoshi's rat and after Yoshi's death TCRI adopted him and put him in the lab with his turtle friends.

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* Another Reason reason could be that Splinter is Yoshi's rat and after Yoshi's death TCRI adopted him and put him in the lab with his turtle friends.friends.


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[[WMG: The sequel will feature the Foot creating a mutant army.]]
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[[WMG:Irma Langinstein will appear in the sequel and, in contrast to Bernadette and Vernon's niceness, will be more of a {{Jerkass}} than her '87 counterpart.]]

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[[WMG:Irma Langinstein will appear in the sequel and, in contrast to Bernadette and Vernon's niceness, will be more of a {{Jerkass}} than her '87 counterpart.]]]]

[[WMG: Baxter Stockman will be the BigBad of the sequel with the Rat King as an AntiHero]]
It would make sense that the two would be connected. Stockman exterminates rats while the King sees them as his family. The Rat King would break into Stockman's lab to destroy the Mousers, so he learns about the Turtles and hires them to take him out in exchange for Splinter's safety. The Rat King uses Splinter has a human shield to fight the Turtles, but they settle their differences when they find out that Stockman has been using the Mousers to rob banks and for terrorism purposes.
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If you watch the movie, you may notice that un-armored Shredder is barely in the movie at all. He has a few scenes to show off how badass he is, but he's mostly interacting with Sacks. He's also completely unnecessary to the plot... if he was removed and Sacks alone had plotted the entire operation it would change nothing. Even in the 3DS version of the game, which was presumably based on an early script of the film, Sacks and Shredder are one and the same. But even within the movie the fact that Sacks was the Shredder along was likely a secret, so most of the dialogue treated them as separate characters. Due to overwhelmingly negative reaction to the idea it seems a few extra scenes were shot and hastily edited into the film to insert traditional Shredder into the story, even though the process did little more than reduce him to a large monster the Turtles have to fight.

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If you watch the movie, you may notice that un-armored Shredder is barely in the movie at all. He has a few scenes to show off how badass he is, but he's mostly interacting with Sacks. He's also completely unnecessary to the plot... if he was removed and Sacks alone had plotted the entire operation it would change nothing. Even in the 3DS version of the game, which was presumably based on an early script of the film, Sacks and Shredder are one and the same. But even within the movie the fact that Sacks was the Shredder along was likely a secret, so most of the dialogue treated them as separate characters. Due to overwhelmingly negative reaction to the idea it seems a few extra scenes were shot and hastily edited into the film to insert traditional Shredder into the story, even though the process did little more than reduce him to a large monster the Turtles have to fight.fight.

[[WMG:Irma Langinstein will appear in the sequel and, in contrast to Bernadette and Vernon's niceness, will be more of a {{Jerkass}} than her '87 counterpart.]]
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** Sort of... they reveal Mikey would say it often as kids, but Raph forced him to stop because he thought it was lame.
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* Another Reason could be that Splinter is Yoshi's rat and after Yoshi's death TCRI adopted him and put him in the lab with his turtle friends.

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* Another Reason could be that Splinter is Yoshi's rat and after Yoshi's death TCRI adopted him and put him in the lab with his turtle friends.friends.
[[WMG: Sacks was originally The Shredder all along]]
If you watch the movie, you may notice that un-armored Shredder is barely in the movie at all. He has a few scenes to show off how badass he is, but he's mostly interacting with Sacks. He's also completely unnecessary to the plot... if he was removed and Sacks alone had plotted the entire operation it would change nothing. Even in the 3DS version of the game, which was presumably based on an early script of the film, Sacks and Shredder are one and the same. But even within the movie the fact that Sacks was the Shredder along was likely a secret, so most of the dialogue treated them as separate characters. Due to overwhelmingly negative reaction to the idea it seems a few extra scenes were shot and hastily edited into the film to insert traditional Shredder into the story, even though the process did little more than reduce him to a large monster the Turtles have to fight.

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* Confirmed, Sachs is the real Shredder's disciple.




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* Confirmed, Vernon is a nice guy and Bernadette is a reasonable boss ([[spoiler:she fires April, but that's entirely reasonable given how she was behaving, and giving Vernon a new car was pretty nice]]).



One of the trailers showed [[spoiler: Splinter lying on the ground after being defeated by the Shredder]]. However, it will later be revealed that Splinter survived. Why is this important? That way if they ever make a sequel with the Rat King as the BigBad, him taking control of Splinter will be part of the conflict.

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One of the trailers showed [[spoiler: Splinter lying on the ground after being defeated by the Shredder]]. However, it will later be revealed that Splinter survived. Why is this important? That way if they ever make a sequel with the Rat King as the BigBad, him taking control of Splinter will be part of the conflict.
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed, Splinter lives]].



** Confirmed. Splinter even uses it to tempt them at one point.




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** Confirmed, they're the authors of Splinter's ninjutsu manual.
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* {{Confirmed}} on the first, {{Jossed}} on the second. [[spoiler:April]] comments that the ooze was alien in origin, but the armor is directly from Sachs' company.




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* {{Jossed}}. Sachs and Shredder are separate entities.



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* [[spoiler:{{Jossed}}. He wasn't captured because the sewer collapsed on him and he was mistaken for dead.]]




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** Sadly {{Jossed}} on both counts.
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This would be a brilliant AuthorsSavingThrow for fans who were disappointed about the removal of Hamato Yoshi, Shredder's feud with him, and the impact they had on the origins of Splinter and the Turtles.

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This would be a brilliant AuthorsSavingThrow for fans who were disappointed about the removal of Hamato Yoshi, Shredder's feud with him, and the impact they had on the origins of Splinter and the Turtles.Turtles.
* Another Reason could be that Splinter is Yoshi's rat and after Yoshi's death TCRI adopted him and put him in the lab with his turtle friends.

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