History WMG / Skyfall

Not the original, the [[{{Series/Sherlock}} BBC series version]] of Mycroft. Here we see what he does at work, when he is not busy annoying his brother.

Not the original, the [[{{Series/Sherlock}} BBC series version]] of Mycroft. Here we see what he does at work, when he is not busy dealing with his brother.

Not the original, the [[{{SeriesSherlock}} BBC series version]] of Mycroft. Here we see what he does at work, when he is not busy dealing with his brother.

At some time after events described in ''Literature/TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles'', the male lineage of the Baskervilles died out, and the Bonds where either their next of kin, or just bought the place.

At some time after [[TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles the incidents investigated by Sherlock Holmes]], the male lineage of the Baskervilles died out, and the Bonds where either their next of kin, or just bought the place.

At some time after [[TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles the incidents investigated by Sherlock Holmes]], the male line of the Baskervilles died out, and the Bonds where either their next of kin, or just bought the place.

Ben Whishaw's Q is mentioned to be the new Quartermaster. It's very likely that the ''old'' Q was one of the agents killed by Silva's explosion, which is how Ben Whishaw's Q, relatively young and arrogant got the job.

[[WMG: M, as played by JudiDench, will die in this film.]]

* The next movie is titled ''Spectre'' and is confirmed Ernst Blofeld will be the main villain. It's possible Blofeld changed the organization's name after becoming it's leader.

** Turns out they don't.
** Aren't there still rights issues there?
** They'll both show up in the next film.

[[WMG: Related to the above, Mallory's former code name was [[Series.TheAvengers John Steed]]]]

[[WMG: The DanielCraig Bond series is an AlternateUniverse to the original canon and the new Q is this universe's version of [[{Film/{Goldeneye}} Boris Grishenko]].]]

[[WMG: Bond parents had been killed by Ernst Stavro Blofeld before the events of "For your Eyes only!".]]

A variation of the multiple Bond/Graig-Bond is the son of the original James Bond-theory. Bond was eleven as his parents died. We don´t know his birth-year but it is possible, that he became eleven in 1981. Blofeld, who survived the events of "Diamonds are forever" took a decade to plan his revenge. He killed his old retired Nemesis. But he wanted also to kill the active 007, the Moore-Bond. And this went wrong.

[[WMG: At least one of the writers for this film was a fan of Film/GetSmart]]

It is really unclear how Bond could go from an agent with "no kills", as he is described in the ActionPrologue of ''Film/CasinoRoyale'', to the ruthlessly effective- we might even say "brutally" effective- killer he is only a little later and through all three Craig films. In real life, killing just 2 men doesn't transform most people that completely- and Bond clearly has experience doing what he does. It is almost inconceivable that he has never killed anyone before. Also, in {{Skyfall}}, we see that field agents like Eve are ordered to shoot people in the line of duty- and if she had killed Patrice, it would not have implied that she was halfway to "00" status herself. So, what exactly does the "License To Kill" or "00" status mean?

[[WMG: An alternate BroadStrokes version of the pre Craig films come after Skyfall.]]
* Mallory is an alternate, younger version of the same M that preceded Dench's M. Also the Q in Skyfall is a alternate, younger version of the one before Cleese's Q.

[[WMG: Related to the above, Mallory's former code name was [[Series.TheAvengers John Steed]]

[[WMG: [[{{Film/Skyfall}} Kincade]] is the father of [[DresdenFiles Kincade]]]]

They really are almost superhuman. This explains why Bond can take what he does, continuously, for great amounts of time, while on enough alcohol that a normal person couldn't see straight, and why cyanide doesn't kill Silva. M has some mutation towards being a determinator, but since she was never able to do field work, she passed on her genes to her children, who are, by different fathers, presumably also mutants or at the very least talented, Bond, Silva, and likely several other agents. Bond guesses that M is his mother, and Silva has some sort of proof. Makes the scene between Bond and Silva squicky, though.

"00" agents in this mythology must be the ones who carry out assassinations for MI-6, as opposed to killing in self-defense or combat operations (obviously, you couldn't forbid a non-"00" to kill an enemy that was trying to kill him!). ''That'' must be the meaning of "kills" in the ''Film/CasinoRoyale'' prologue; premeditated, targeted assassinations. It would also account for some of the disparities in {{Skyfall}}, where Bond is portrayed as a long-service agent, only 2 films after ''CasinoRoyale''. So, Bond was already an experienced field operative before the events of the film, and had killed enemies in combat or self-defense, "in the rough and tumble of it" as it were; he just hadn't been sent on an assassination contract yet. (Just like Silva, who was an experienced agent and a ruthless killer, but never explicitly stated to have been a "00".) It was Bond's long experience that ''qualified'' him to be sent on an assassination- 'M' would hardly send a rookie, would she? And once you're a "00", with a license to kill, maybe you get to decide who needs to be assassinated on your own and tell 'M' about it afterwards? Which would be why MI-6 is so careful about promoting "00"s in the first place- because, as we see with Bond, once they have a license to kill, they may use it even when you don't want them to.

It is really unclear how Bond could go from an agent with "no kills", as he is described in the ActionPrologue of {{Casino Royale}}, to the ruthlessly effective- we might even say "brutally" effective- killer he is only a little later and through all three Craig films. In real life, killing just 2 men doesn't transform most people that completely- and Bond clearly has experience doing what he does. It is almost inconceivable that he has never killed anyone before. Also, in {{Skyfall}}, we see that field agents like Eve are ordered to shoot people in the line of duty- and if she had killed Patrice, it would not have implied that she was halfway to "00" status herself. So, what exactly does the "License To Kill" or "00" status mean?


"00" agents in this mythology must be the ones who carry out assassinations for MI-6, as opposed to killing in self-defense or combat operations (obviously, you couldn't forbid a non-"00" to kill an enemy that was trying to kill him!). ''That'' must be the meaning of "kills" in the {{Casino Royale}} prologue; premeditated, targeted assassinations. It would also account for some of the disparities in {{Skyfall}}, where Bond is portrayed as a long-service agent, only 2 films after {{Casino Royale}}. So, Bond was already an experienced field operative before the events of the film, and had killed enemies in combat or self-defense, "in the rough and tumble of it" as it were; he just hadn't been sent on an assassination contract yet. (Just like Silva, who was an experienced agent and a ruthless killer, but never explicitly stated to have been a "00".) It was Bond's long experience that ''qualified'' him to be sent on an assassination- 'M' would hardly send a rookie, would she? And once you're a "00", with a license to kill, maybe you get to decide who needs to be assassinated on your own and tell 'M' about it afterwards? Which would be why MI-6 is so careful about promoting "00"s in the first place- because, as we see with Bond, once they have a license to kill, they may use it even when you don't want them to.

* The [[spoiler: fact that this film has Moneypenny's backstory]] aside, this film could fit into the old canon provided you take some things into account: firstly, that Goldeneye came before Casino Royale (because the female M first got the job in Goldeneye), secondly, that M retired between Quantum of Solace and Tomorrow Never Dies, but was reinstated. A big mix-up, of course, but just another WMG.

Q wasn't knowingly acting as a mole, but he ''was'' conveniently predictable and easy for Silva to manipulate. Hence also "not such a clever boy" -- Q thinks he got the job because of his natural talents (and is characterized with no small amount of arrogance as a result) but he only got the job because a ''real'' technological genius was pulling the strings, one who was himself hired at a young age and who may have been primarily a desk jockey before his betrayal rather than a Bond-style field agent. Silva's clearly infiltrated MI-6 deeply enough to have access to and control over records relevant to hiring/commissioning of agents. And since after ''QuantumOfSolace'', MI-6 is even more alert for potential infiltrators, why not employ someone who doesn't know they're acting as a mole?

* SamMendes has said Quantum won't feature in the film.

"00" agents in this mythology must be the ones who carry out assassinations for MI-6, as opposed to killing in self-defense or combat operations (obviously, you couldn't forbid a non-"00" to kill an enemy that was trying to kill him!). ''That'' must be the meaning of "kills" in the {{Casino Royale}} prologue; premeditated, targeted assassinations. It would also account for some of the disparities in {{Skyfall}}, where Bond is portrayed as a long-service agent, only 2 films after {{Casino Royale}}. So, Bond was already an experienced field operative before the events of the film, and had killed enemies in combat or self-defense, "in the rough and tumble of it" as it were; he just hadn't been sent on an assassination contract yet. (Just like Silva, who was an experienced agent and a ruthless killer, but never explicitly stated to have been a "00".) It was Bond's long experience that ''qualified'' him to be sent on an assassination- 'M' would hardly send a rookie, would she? And once you're a "00", with a license to kill, maybe you get to decide who needs to be assassinated on your own and tell 'M' about it afterwards? Which would be why MI-6 is so careful about promoting "00"s in the first place- because, as we see with Bond, once they have a license to kill, they may use it even when you don't want them to.

* This troper considers it the easiest way to reconcile the code name theory with this movie: James Bond was a code name given to every 007; in this universe, the current 007 happens to have the given name James Bond. BroadStrokes, AllTheMyriadWays and MythologyGag seem to cover this pretty well.

** Though that still wouldn't explain why they all grive for the same dead wife, or how, they are all friends with Felix Leiter, or how they all flirt with Moneypenny, or how he occasionally runs into people from his pre-spy days who call him by that name...yeah, if this film doesn't joss that, the other ones do.

** This also adds awesome to the 'Jumped Up Little Shit' line- he was 007 before Craig's Bond was a glint in his fathers eye, after all, and he still got the skills.

* Both Connery’s Bond and Kincade are Scottish- obvious, yes, but every little helps- and he’s badass- speaks for itself. Anyone who can take on trained Silvia aligned agents with nothing but an old shotgun definitely qualifies, and speaks to prior training of the seriously awesome kind.

Being a skilled actor he managed to pass it off ("Oh, Mr Bond") but he sure withdrew his hands quickly. Was this just because he wasn't getting under Bond's skin (so to speak) or was it because he (Silva) got a little scared? Note Silva being homophobic doesn't actually preclude him from being gay or bisexual; he could easily be a BoomerangBigot.

Hence how he survived being shot and drowning.