History WMG / Skyfall

The amount of damage his jaw and face sustained wouldn't be caused by cyanide alone. Likely, MI6 included a corrosive substance to disfigure or destroy his jaw and skull so that no one could identify him with dental records.

[[WMG:This is secretly also the fourth ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' movie.]]

For [=WMG=] regarding the entire franchise, go [[WMG/JamesBond here]].

[[WMG: AmbiguouslyBi and ExactWords]]

[[WMG: An alternate BroadStrokes version of the pre Craig films come after ''Skyfall''.]]

[[WMG: The Craig films take place in a different universe than all previous Bond movies.]]

[[WMG: The Craig films are a Space time continuum continuity reboot of the earlier films and somehow the characters have memories of the older films as if they actually existed.]]

[[WMG: The James Bond we see in this movie is actually just the [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]] wearing a human disguise]]

[[WMG: [[{{Film/Skyfall}} Kincade]] is the father of [[Literature/DresdenFiles Kincaid]]]]

[[WMG: This movie will not involve the Quantum organization from the the past two movies, but instead feature an unaffiliated villain. Quantum will, at most, get a passing reference.]]

[[WMG: Quantum will become the new SPECTRE]]

[[WMG: The new Q is I.Q. from ''WesternAnimation/JamesBondJr''.]]

[[WMG: Blofeld or SPECTRE will make a quick cameo]]

[[WMG: This is secretly also the fourth ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' movie.]]

[[WMG: The film will address the long-standing multiple Bonds theory.]]

[[WMG: Craig's Bond has been through 'reboot' versions of some of the older films.]]

[[WMG: M, as played by Creator/JudiDench, will die in this film.]]

[[WMG: All other currently serving 00 agents are killed as a result of M's incompetence.]]

[[WMG: Raoul Silva is related to M]]

[[WMG: Craig's Bond is Connery's Bond's son]]

[[WMG: Craig's Bond is ''WesternAnimation/JamesBondJr''.]]

[[WMG: M's last name is [[Series/TheAvengers1960s Peel]]]]

[[WMG: Related to the above, Mallory's former code name was [[Series/TheAvengers1960s John Steed]]]]

[[WMG: Mallory served in the SAS.]]

[[WMG: Mallory is actually a weakened version of [[Film/HarryPotter Voldemort]] in another body.]]

[[WMG: Eve shooting Bond is going to become part of the series' rolling canon]]

[[WMG: Silva is an AU version of Bond who ''did'' break following his capture by the North Koreans in ''Die Another Day''.]]

[[WMG: Sévérine was the true mastermind]]

[[WMG: The different Bond actors really ARE different characters despite what this film may imply...]]

[[WMG: The original Q was killed or heavily wounded in the [=MI6=] bombing.]]

[[WMG: Think On Your Sins.]]

[[WMG: Mallory was behind everything]]

[[WMG: James Bond actually DID die]]

[[WMG: M is James Bond's mother]]

[[WMG: That bull dog statue is made by Nintendo]]

[[WMG: The shrink that evaluated Bond was planted by Silva]]

[[WMG: James Bond is a codename as well as the real name for several 00 agents.]]

[[WMG: Silva is also an orphan, or from an abusive home.]]

[[WMG: Albert Finney is playing the same character as he played in ''The Bourne Ultimatum'']]

[[WMG: The Creator/DanielCraig Bond series is an AlternateUniverse to the original canon and the new Q is this universe's version of [[Film/{{Goldeneye}} Boris Grishenko]].]]

[[WMG: Silva didn't want to spend money on a plane ticket to the United Kingdom]]

[[WMG: This film comes after ''Film/DieAnotherDay'']]

[[WMG: The girl Bond was sleeping with at the start was the person who rescued him from the river]]

[[WMG: Silva true goal was to curse [=MI6=] - and it worked]]

[[WMG: Bond parents had been killed by Ernst Stavro Blofeld before the events of ''For Your Eyes Only!''.]]

[[WMG: One of those agents Silva exposed will play into a later film.]]

[[WMG: Q was working for Silva]]

[[WMG: Moneypenny is a code name]]

[[WMG: At least one of the writers for this film was a fan of ''Film/GetSmart'']]

[[WMG: Mallory is an AlternateUniverse [[ActorAllusion Voldemort]]]]

[[WMG: Silva is actually a QUANTUM agent]]

[[WMG: Silva is responsible for Q's hiring by MI-6.]]

[[WMG: Bond is an Immortal.]]

[[WMG: Silva was genuinely ''freaked out'' by Bond's response to his FauxYay.]]

[[WMG: Kincade is Connery's Bond.]]

[[WMG: The License To Kill]]

[[WMG: Silva is from Gibraltar]]

[[WMG: The double 0 Agents are produced by a breeding program]]

[[WMG: The old Q was killed in the explosion]]

[[WMG: Skyfall was once called Baskerville Hall.]]

[[WMG: Mallory is Mycroft Holmes.]]

[[WMG: Silva arranged for all his assets, technology and knowledge to be used to set up SPECTRE after his death.]]

[[WMG: Mallory is [[Film/TheConstantGardener Justin Quayle]]]]

[[WMG: Bond's Aston Martin is the same car he won in Casino Royale]]

[[WMG: Silva's cyanide capsule contained more than just cyanide]]

* Silva's somewhat clumsy come-on, and Bond's response, caused some minor turmoil amongst longtime fans of the franchise. However, it makes perfect sense that Bond has had to HoneyTrap male targets before. This is a man whose job involves being shot, stabbed, beaten, tortured, poisoned and subjected to even more esoteric torments. Having to get it on with another dude in the line of duty would barely merit a "meh!" from the likes of him. Especially since his AnythingThatMoves libido would probably enable him to perform at least as well as straight performers who do gay porn manage to do.

*** [[spoiler:The next two films clarified this some.]]

[[spoiler: He might literally be her grandson, or just her son (if illegitimate, given his very Spanish real name), as he hinted in the story in his intro. It would certainly make his motive much more personal and his rage more understandable, given at one point he even tries to get her to commit suicide and take him with her.]]

* It struck me as weird why during the word association test such a strange phrase like Skyfall, besides [[{{Title Drop}} the obvious]], would be said but realizing that [[spoiler: Skyfall is where Bond grew up and where he learned of his parents deaths]] it could have all been a clever ruse by Silva to ensure Bond would fail the test knowing M would lie and send him out anyways letting Silva reveal said lie to try and get Bond to distrust M.

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--> '''Bond:''' You must be joking?

* [[spoiler: The former.]]
** [[spoiler: ''And'' the latter. She just dies before she can "voluntarily retire."]]

* [[spoiler: Jossed. Those coffins are the bodies of those who died in the [=MI6=] attack. Only three infiltrated agents of the five named are mentioned as lost.]]
** [[spoiler: Also, those agents are not Double-0 agents, but undercover spies working for [=NATO=] in various capacities. Whether or not M's competence is the main problem depends on the viewer, though it should be noted Silva is a ''very'' competent and determined villain.]]

[[spoiler: He has Connery's car for absolutely no given reason, down to the gadgets and registration. The film debunks the "James Bond" is just a codename theory by showing us the actual Bond estate. But if Connery is Craig's father it would give a reason for him to have Connery's car (he didn't get it from M and it doesn't seem like Craig's style to order a car with an ejector seat and machineguns). Given the references to other Bond films (exploding pen) in Skyfall the "James Bond" is a codename theory could hold for the Bonds between Connery and Craig but for those two it's actually their name.]]
** [[spoiler: The gravestone at the church combined with his fathers favourite gun tells us that James father was called Andrew.]]
*** [[spoiler: Or the Craig Bond is the Connery Bond's grandson. Connery Bond retires, has a son named Andrew, Andrew grows up and names his son after his father (or maybe his father's codename), and that son grows up to be the Craig Bond. Craig Bond inherits his grandfather's old car, and joins [=MI6=] to follow in Connery Bond's footsteps.]]
*** This troper is so happy he's not the only one who thought of this. Tears of joy aside, [[spoiler: alternatively, the knife with the initials "AB" are referred to as his father's knife. This could simply mean that the knife was owned by his father, the real James Bond (Sean Connery's Bond), who in turn inherited it from his father Andrew. This also explains why the gravestone of Andrew and Monique Delacroix Bond are found on his estate: they're simply Daniel Craig's Bond's grandparents. It would also make sense thematically since Craig has drawn comparisons to Connery ... and both have faked their deaths before.]]

* If that's the case, then [[spoiler: The poor woman's died twice in the Bond series.]]
** [[spoiler: She wouldn't exactly be in rare company if she had missed her own funeral, in this setting.]]

** According to the box with her china bulldog in it, M's real name is [[spoiler: Olivia Mansfield.]]

* When Tanner is establishing Mallory's RetiredBadass credentials, he says Mallory was a "Lieutenant-Colonel in the Hereford Regiment." Normally, [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships British Army regiments]] are associated with counties or regions (e.g. Scots Guards or Hampshire Regiment) not towns or cities. The SAS HQ is in Hereford, and "Hereford Regiment" is a plausible nickname for the SAS.

* Apart from him being played by Ralph Fiennes, it's not ''quite'' as far fetched as you'd imagine. After his [[spoiler:supposed death]] from Harry, some shred of him wound up killing and possessing the body of a British soldier in Northern Ireland. He's been working up the ranks since and by the end of the movie, hopes to use Bond and [=MI6=] [[spoiler:as the new M]] to exact revenge on the world of magic.

* By which I mean that, when the 40th James Bond film comes out in 2040, whatever whipper-snappers they have playing Bond and [[spoiler:Moneypenny]] will still be mocking each other with the fact that she shot him once.

* Her role in events was an elaborate act [[spoiler: right down to getting shot in the head by Raoul Silva which removed her as a target of [=MI6=]. With Silva’s revenge scheme against M in motion [=MI6=] (or at least the movie) seemed to largely forget about both Sévérine and the operatives list that started all this. With her “death” and she was able to sell her copy with minimal fuss and move to somewhere warm where nobody would look for her. Not unlike what James Bond did earlier in the movie.]]

* ...it's just that [=MI6=] secretly breeds potential candidates for the role of James Bond since birth. They pick healthy new-born boys and raise them separately under the name James Bond and eventually arrange for their parents' deaths to make sure they will grow to be bitter, cold killers. That way, [=MI6=] always has a supply of potential Bonds to be recruited in case the current Bond becomes too hard to control. This puts a very dark spin on [[spoiler:M's last words: "At least I got one thing right". Obviously, she means recruiting Craig's Bond, but this effectively means she's secretly controlled his entire life and is the indirect murderer of his parents.]]

* The initials of this phrase are TOYS. Now, when villains casually discard their men, there is generally some good guy saying that they treat people like toys. What was [[spoiler:Silva]]'s main complaint about [[spoiler:M]]?

* The name on his mother's gravestone was '''Monique''' a name beginning with the letter ''M''. Her last words were [[spoiler: "At least I did one thing right..."]] which could have a very personal meaning if this is the case. Also Bond regards her as a motherly figure and M also remarks that [[spoiler: "Orphans make the best recruits"]] and Bond himself stated that she [[spoiler: "'knew the whole story"']] which could imply she knew that he was her son. The grave at the estate could have been empty since she works for [=MI6=] and therefore required absolute secrecy/invisibility in her line of work. She could have given birth to James when she was young and kept him hidden at the Skyfall estate where he witnesses her being injured which he could have perceived as her dying because he was young and afraid at the time.

*** The box given to Bond at the end of the movie actually has her name on it - [[spoiler: Olivia Mansfield]]. Ironic, I suppose - [[spoiler: a woman of high rank in a "man's field" of work.]]

[[WMG: The shrink that evaluated Bond [[spoiler: was planted by Silva]]]]
* It struck me as weird why during the word association test such a strange phrase like Skyfall, besides [[{{Title Drop}} the obvious]], would be said but realizing that [[spoiler: Skyfall is where Bond grew up and where he learned of his parents deaths]] it could have all been a clever ruse [[spoiler: by Silva to ensure Bond would fail the test knowing M would lie and send him out anyways letting Silva reveal said lie to try and get Bond to distrust M.]]

* That's why he [[spoiler: let himself be captured.]] Confirmed.

* The [[spoiler: fact that this film has Moneypenny's backstory]] aside, this film could fit into the old canon provided you take some things into account: firstly, that Goldeneye came before Casino Royale (because the female M first got the job in Goldeneye), secondly, that M retired between ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' and ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'', but was reinstated. A big mix-up, of course, but just another WMG.

After all, how better to start a bid to take over the world than become [[spoiler: the head of [=MI6=]]]? From there, he can become TheManBehindTheMan for the Prime Minister, just as he did with the Minister of Magic in ''[[Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows The Deathly Hallows]]''.

* [[spoiler: Semi-confirmed; he was a member of SPECTRE, which Quantum was a branch of.]]

* At any rate, he might still have more hangups about "this physical stuff" than he lets on, especially after [[spoiler:five months of torture.]]

Also played by Ralph Fiennes, Justin Quayle fakes [[spoiler: his own death]]at the end of The Constant Gardener. A [[spoiler: funeral]] is staged where the [[spoiler: conspiracy involving pharmaceutical companies that Justin uncovered]] is revealed by his late wife Tessa's cousin Ham. He obtains another false passport off Ham and changes his name to Gareth Mallory, makes up a back-story about joining the SAS and serving in Northern Ireland and is eventually promoted to Chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee.

[[WMG: Related to the above, Mallory's former code name was [[Series/TheAvengers John Steed]]]]

[[WMG: M's last name is [[Series/TheAvengers Peel]]]]

** They could've happened in the 6-year interim between the events of ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' and ''Skyfall'' (''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' and ''Quantum of Solace'' both happening in 2006 as the latter {{immediate|sequel}}ly follows the former) with the ''[=GoldenEye=]'' game remake happening in 2010.

** Some of them could've happened in the 6-year interim between the events of ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' and ''Skyfall'' (''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' and ''Quantum of Solace'' both happening in 2006 as the latter {{immediate|sequel}}ly follows the former) with the ''[=GoldenEye=]'' game remake happening in 2010. Some also might've happened in-between ''Skyfall'' and ''Film/{{Spectre}}''.

** Some of them could've happened in the 6-year interim between the events of ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' and ''Skyfall'' (''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' and ''Quantum of Solace'' both happening in 2006 as the latter {{immediate|sequel}}ly follows the former) with the ''GoldenEye'' game remake happening in 2010. Some also might've happened in-between ''Skyfall'' and ''Film/{{Spectre}}''.

* The Aston Martin is evidence that Craig's Bond has been through modernised versions of the events of the old films. We've actually seen one of these, ''[[VideoGame/GoldenEyeWii Goldeneye]]''.

** Some of them could've happened in the 4-year interim between ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' and ''Skyfall'' or the 3 years in-between ''Skyfall'' and ''Film/{{Spectre}}''.