History WMG / SengokuBasara

* Hojo Ujiyasu can be mentioned in Odawara's caste stage as a much more popular leader than his son. KOEI's Ujiyasu is CoolOldGuy and Capcom's Ujimasa is GrumpyOldMan. Do the math.

* Yoshiaki does mention how he waited for the return of Oda when you play as Oda on his stage. Meaning he didn't expect him to stay dead. Tenkai is doing it for the obvious reason. It would increase their chances of success if they worked together. The two of them will also try to backstab each other near the end since they want Oda to return for different reasons.
** Actually, it's Tenkai and Yoshitsugu. Yoshiaki, while a douchebag doesn't seem to be the kind to do things ForTheEvulz.

* Just think about it. It makes perfect sense.

* Tachibana Muneshige speaks about his wife as she is MemeticBadass who is better samurai then he in almost everything - she was portrated very simular by KOEI.
* Hojo Ujiyasu can be mentioned in Odawara caste stage. KOEI's Ujiyasu is CoolOldGuy and Capcom's Ujimasa is GrumpyOldMan. Do the math.

** Never mind that Capcom Mitsunari is more capable in battle and KOEI Mitsunari was never a poster boy. The one who got it hard is Kanbe: Briliant strategist in Warriors and complete idiot in Basara.

* Hojo Ujiyasa can be mentioned in Odawara caste stage. KOEI's Ujiyasa is CoolOldGuy and Capcom's Ujimasa is GrumpyOldMan. Do the math.

[[WMG: Yoshiaki and Tenkai will be manipulating everyone in The Last Party in order to resurrect Oda Nobunaga.]]

The chronological release of SamuraiWarriors and SengokuBasara are as follows (Japanese releases):

Now, if we look at the timeline, Naoe Kanetsugu was first introduced in ''SamuraiWarriors 2'' by KOEI, as a fairly serious figure and judging by how they like getting the Tokugawa as the eventual villain, they team Kanetsugu up with Yukimura and Mitsunari, and they form the main PowerTrio, which thanks to Yukimura being the poster boy, they get to be the heroes.

So, come ''WarriorsOrochi'', Koei decidedly picked two of ''Basara'''s poster boys, Masamune and Keiji, and turn them into Orochi's underlings (CharacterDerailment or not, YourMileageMayVary). They obviously can't do it with Yukimura since Yukimura is also their poster boy. This status quo continues to ''WarriorsOrochi 2''.

* November 2nd, 2004: Koei released Sengoku Musou
* July 21st, 2005: Capcom released Sengoku Basara
* February 24th, 2006: Koei released Sengoku Musou 2.
* July 27th, 2006: Capcom released Sengoku Basara 2.
* March 21st, 2007: Koei released [[WarriorsOrochi Musou Orochi]]

Now, if we look at the timeline, Naoe Kanetsugu was first introduced in SamuraiWarriors 2 by KOEI, as a fairly serious figure and judging by how they like getting the Tokugawa as the eventual villain, they team Kanetsugu up with Yukimura and Mitsunari, and they form the main PowerTrio, which thanks to Yukimura being the poster boy, they get to be the heroes.

Then come SengokuBasara 2, Capcom implemented Kanetsugu... as the JokeCharacter who kept screaming "I'M INVINCIBLE!!/MUTEKI!!!".

So, come WarriorsOrochi, Koei decidedly picked two of Basara's poster boys, Masamune and Keiji, and turn them into Orochi's underlings (CharacterDerailment or not, YourMileageMayVary). They obviously can't do it with Yukimura since Yukimura is also their poster boy. This status quo continues to WarriorsOrochi 2.

Now, Capcom has added fuel to the fire by making Mitsunari in SengokuBasara 3 a screaming emo who is dark and has a real dark moral. And Kanetsugu is STILL the JokeCharacter.

*** This may actually go way back before SengokuBasara 2. Before that, there was ''Kessen 3'', which gives OdaNobunaga a sympathetic light. Which would be okay, if KOEI didn't include that one scene where Nobunaga slays Akechi Hidemitsu AKA Samanosuke, protagonist of ''{{Onimusha}}''. Capcom did not take the treatment of their Onimusha's main protagonist well, so they retaliated with Kanetsugu's portrayal, continuing the fire.

* Although they did give a pretty blatant TakeThat to Basara's portrayal of Motonari:
-->Motonari: Please, be careful what you say. Reputations are easily made and lost. Who knows, history may record me as a cold-hearted, ruthless and brilliant tactician.
-->Ginchiyo: I wouldn't worry about that. Historians tend to prefer the facts too much.

[[WMG: With Nobunaga and Hideyoshi out of the picture, there can only be one more [[BigBad Big Bad]] for Sengoku Basara 3: Amakusa Shiro]]

[[SamuraiShodown Samurai Shodown]] and [[RurouniKenshin Rurouni Kenshin]] have both portrayed this guy for a villain. And the Shimabara uprising happened during the Tokugawa era. Think about it.
* Not sure about that. The basis of Sengoku Basara 3 is Sekigahara. There's still the Osaka siege before Shimabara. Also, IIRC, Ieyasu would be long dead when Shimabara rolls in.

[[WMG: The Saika Magoichi in Sengoku Basara 3 is Lady Saika, (the real) Magoichi's wife]]

* Her real name is Sayaka.

* This one looks like InsultBackfire: Utsunomiya Hirotsuna wants to be a SamuraiWarrior. Too bad, KOEI doesn't make nobodies of whom even OtherWiki has zero entry into their games cast.

** So... Date is a Time Lord? (filling the quota)

* Guy doesn't appear, so Jossed.

[[WMG: Capcom has once again reignited the '[[StreetFighter Dan]] [[JokeCharacter Hibiki]]' rivalry with KOEI, except Capcom started it (instead of SNK started it before Capcom)]]

[[WMG: Yukimura Sanada is Takeda Shingen]]