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[[WMG:Jill was going to be Wesker’s Queen.]]
Excella got the idea from somewhere, but Wesker obviously had no intention of ruling over a world of ruin with her. If anyone was going to fill that role, it would have been Jill. Since Wesker used the T-Virus antibodies in Jill’s body to perfect Uroboros, Jill was undoubtedly immune to infection from it. Wesker also took the time to brainwash Jill, he injected her body with enhancements, and the overall effects of Wesker’s experiments has basically stopped Jill’s aging. Wesker would not have done all of this ''just'' to have Jill kill Chris. For all intents and purposes, Wesker was crafting a perfect “partner” in Jill. Someone who would have been capable of standing with Wesker as he brought upon his twisted new age. And if he had actually ''procreated'' with Jill, what kind of abilities would their offspring would have had? They may have been the strongest superhumans ever seen.

Wesker brainwashed Jill to kill Chris as a means of inflicting maximum trauma upon his arch nemesis before he died. But what better way for Wesker to get his revenge on Chris than stealing Chris’s “partner” for himself, and using her to build the very world Chris fought so hard to prevent from happening?

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It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they don't actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he didn't install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could've just ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become something like [[VideoGame/{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]

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It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they don't actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he didn't install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could've just ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become something like [[VideoGame/{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]
Mercer]].
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* For what it's worth, we do see Leon in a suit with no tie in ''Anime/ResidentEvilInfiniteDarkness''.

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* For what it's worth, we do see Leon in a suit with no tie in ''Anime/ResidentEvilInfiniteDarkness''.
''Anime/ResidentEvilInfiniteDarkness'' and again in the opening to ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil4Remake''. It seems like he usually forgoes a tie whenever he's wearing a suit in his capacity as a G-man. Food for thought...
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* This one's been {{Jossed}}. WordOfGod said he's dead and gone.

[[WMG:The Wesker seen in Resident Evil 5 was a clone]]
Wesker created an experimental clone or heavily modified another individual before the Spencer Mansion incident, in order to fake his death with a body as evidence, and the B.S.A.A. as his witness. However, the clone survived, and began to develop its own personality and goals based on Spencer's, to become a god. As Resident Evil 5 progressed, it began to degenerate as it was torn between its own consciousness and that of Wesker's. Facing off against Chris (who was a major part of Wesker's memories, which may've been implanted into the clone) probably helped with this, as well as the viral overdose. Thus, at the end of Resident Evil 5, the clone's purpose has been accomplished in a roundabout and unwilling fashion, and the broken remnants of the Uroboros project and Tricell Africa can be seized by Wesker.

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* This one's been {{Jossed}}. WordOfGod said he's debunked. Capcom has confirmed that Wesker's dead and gone.

[[WMG:The Wesker seen in Resident Evil 5 was a clone]]
clone.]]
Wesker created an experimental clone or heavily modified another individual before the Spencer Mansion incident, Incident, in order to fake his death with a body as evidence, and the B.S.A.A. as his witness. However, the clone survived, and began to develop its own personality and goals based on Spencer's, to become a god. As Resident Evil 5 progressed, it began to degenerate as it was torn between its own consciousness and that of Wesker's. Facing off against Chris (who was a major part of Wesker's memories, which may've been implanted into the clone) probably helped with this, as well as the viral overdose. Thus, at the end of Resident Evil 5, the clone's purpose has been accomplished in a roundabout and unwilling fashion, and the broken remnants of the Uroboros project and Tricell Africa can be seized by Wesker.
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* Well, think about it, he was told to get an immortality virus for Spencer, but disappeared after making it. He's a conniving bastard, so he'd probably be the next bad guy.
** As of the upcoming ''RE6'', no mention so far. But since it isn't out yet, there's still room for surprises. They wouldn't drop the "[[SequelHook there's another Wesker Child]]" bombshell like that and just up and abandon it, now would they?

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* Well, think about it, he was told to get an immortality virus for Spencer, but disappeared after making it. He's a conniving bastard, so he'd probably be the next bad guy.
antagonist.
** As of the upcoming ''RE6'', no mention so far. But since it isn't out yet, there's still room for surprises. They wouldn't drop the "[[SequelHook there's "there's another Wesker Child]]" Child" bombshell like that and just up and abandon it, now would they?

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[[WMG:Wesker is still alive.]]
They NeverFoundTheBody after dropping him inside the volcano, and the rockets seemed to have shot just past him, exploding behind him. Not to mention that it seemed like the lava was little more than a hot bath to Wesker, and he's already survived certain, confirmed death once before. If anything, the ending to RE5 is even ''more'' ambiguous as to whether or not he was actually killed.

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[[WMG:Wesker is [[WMG:Wesker's still alive.]]
They NeverFoundTheBody never found a body after dropping him inside the volcano, and the rockets seemed to have shot just past him, exploding behind him. Not to mention that it seemed like the lava was little more than a hot bath to Wesker, and he's already survived certain, confirmed seemingly certain death once before.in the past. If anything, the ending to RE5 is even ''more'' ambiguous as to whether or not he was actually killed.



* Tropers/{{Tofu}}: This one's been {{Jossed}}. WordOfGod said he's dead and gone.

[[WMG:Agent HUNK is one of the missing Wesker children.]]
And in the next game, we will finally get to see his face, and it'll look like Wesker's.
* {{Jossed}}. We've already seen his face in one of the Epilogue Files from Resident Evil 3. He's just some blonde guy.
* Except the Wesker Children aren't related. They were a bunch of children whose parents were intellectuals of all nationalities. The kids were kidnapped, given the surname Wesker (after an Umbrella researcher), and indoctrinated by Umbrella.

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* Tropers/{{Tofu}}: This one's been {{Jossed}}. WordOfGod said he's dead and gone.

[[WMG:Agent HUNK is one of the missing Wesker children.]]
And in the next game, we will finally get to see his face, and it'll look like Wesker's.
* {{Jossed}}. We've already seen his face in one of the Epilogue Files from Resident Evil 3. He's just some blonde guy.
* Except the Wesker Children aren't related. They were a bunch of children whose parents were intellectuals of all nationalities. The kids were kidnapped, given the surname Wesker (after an Umbrella researcher), and indoctrinated by Umbrella.
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* Alternatively, Wesker ''did'' die at the end of Resident Evil 5, but that was [[CloningGambit just a clone]] of the real Wesker. Why else would he constantly need [=PG67A/W=] to keep himself from mutating? ''Because he's a clone of Wesker,'' and therefore unstable. The real Wesker is still sitting in his comfortable satellite TV room drinking champagne.

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* Alternatively, Wesker ''did'' die at the end of Resident Evil 5, but that was [[CloningGambit just a clone]] of the real Wesker. Why else would he constantly need [=PG67A/W=] to keep himself from mutating? ''Because he's a clone of Wesker,'' and therefore unstable. The real Wesker is still sitting in his comfortable satellite TV room drinking champagne.



* {{Jossed}}. We've already seen his face in one of the [=RE3=] Epilogue files. He's just an ordinary blond guy.
* Except the Wesker children aren't related. They were a bunch of children whose parents were intellectuals of all nationalities. The kids were kidnapped, given the surname Wesker (after an Umbrella researcher), and indoctrinated by Umbrella.

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* {{Jossed}}. We've already seen his face in one of the [=RE3=] Epilogue files. Files from Resident Evil 3. He's just an ordinary blond some blonde guy.
* Except the Wesker children Children aren't related. They were a bunch of children whose parents were intellectuals of all nationalities. The kids were kidnapped, given the surname Wesker (after an Umbrella researcher), and indoctrinated by Umbrella.



[[WMG:Wesker isn't really Wesker in Resident Evil 5]]
Instead, "Wesker" is simply one of the other Wesker children, brainwashed into believing he's the real deal.

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[[WMG:Wesker isn't really Wesker in Resident Evil 5]]
5.]]
Instead, "Wesker" is simply one of the other Wesker children, Children, brainwashed into believing he's the real deal.



[[WMG: Wesker is asexual.]]]]
* Or he could just not have time for sex. I mean, think about the women he's had around him: His mortal enemy's little sister, Claire, Ada Wong, who probably keeps knives in her vagina or something, Jill Valentine (who openly hated him when not under his control). (And even if he DID want anything of the sort from her while she was brainwashed, I'm pretty sure being reminded of her shoving him out a window and to the bottom of a cliff was a major boner killer.) And then there's Excella. Yeah, sure, she's smart, hot and Italian, but she's unbearably clingy.
* Given that he was trying to repopulate the world with superior beings (and that he considered himself a superior being), he probably should've ''made'' time for it. Then again, knowing Wesker, he probably would've genetically engineered a bunch of test tube kids. When you've got your arch-nemesis chasing your tail, you really don't have the time to chase any tail yourself.
* {{Jossed}} pretty hard by the sixth game. He apparently had the time to travel to Eastern Europe, knock up a chick there, and leave her six years before the Raccoon City incident.



Think about it. Chris has obviously taken SEVERAL levels in being a badass since we saw him last in Code: Veronica. Now, if you read some of the flavor files that you unlock as you play through Resident Evil 5, it says that Chris is their top agent, with far more successful missions than any other. The B.S.A.A. is funded by the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium, a bunch of companies that are what Umbrella claimed to be: medical researchers and manufacturers. It's not that far fetched to think that they'd have a more stable version of Wesker's super serum. It's also not that far fetched to think that Chris may have taken it after Jill's death. This enhancement would explain punching a boulder and moving it, as well as the fact that he can use a full sized rifle-caliber mini-gun when all the other protagonists could only use three-barrel baby versions. He still can't quite match Wesker's game-breaker powers, but he doesn't have to inject fresh doses constantly and his sanity is intact.

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Think about it. Chris has obviously taken SEVERAL gone up several levels in being a badass since we saw him last in Code: Veronica. Now, if you read some of the flavor files that you unlock as you play through Resident Evil 5, it says that Chris is their top agent, with far more successful missions than any other. The B.S.A.A. is funded by the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium, a bunch of companies that are what Umbrella claimed to be: medical researchers and manufacturers. It's not that far fetched to think that they'd have a more stable version of Wesker's super serum. It's also not that far fetched to think that Chris may have taken it after Jill's death. This enhancement would explain punching a boulder and moving it, as well as the fact that he can use a full sized rifle-caliber mini-gun when all the other protagonists could only use three-barrel baby versions. He still can't quite match Wesker's game-breaker powers, but he doesn't have to inject fresh doses constantly and his sanity is intact.



* Well, think about it, he was told to get an immortality virus for Spencer, but disappeared after making it. He's a manipulative bastard, so he'd probably be the next bad guy.

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* Well, think about it, he was told to get an immortality virus for Spencer, but disappeared after making it. He's a manipulative conniving bastard, so he'd probably be the next bad guy.



[[WMG:Jill's [[spoiler:genetic testing (thing)]] RE5 was turning her into [[Franchise/MetalGear Solid Snake]].]]
In [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil5 ''Desperate Escape'']], when you play as Jill, she walks the exact same way Raiden does in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', has the exact same hair colour, the same outfit, just as gender confused... now since Raiden was basically wanting to be Snake, Jill is another Raiden, that is another person who did the same video game testing (which is what [[spoiler:Wesker did to her before and during RE5]])... It changed her hair color to make her more like Raiden. [[spoiler:Wesker]] did all of that because if he had Snake on his team, he wouldn't have lost.

[[WMG: Wesker is the Resident Evil version of the antichrist.]]
Superhuman abilities, the ability to manipulate people in the snap of a finger, extreme selfishness, his interest in politics, demonic slaves and more importantly the will to take over the world and engulf it in darkness,also that "global saturaton"(engulf the world in darkness) nonsense seemed to be a plain give away. Does that not sound like the anti christ to any of you?

[[WMG: The "man in the suit with no tie" from Sheva's dossier was Leon]]
He worked for the U.S. Government and seemed to have a very personal stake in seeing Umbrella brought down. Based on her given age and the RE timeline, Sheva first met the man in 2000, which was after Leon had been recruited. Sure, it's not much to go on, but why would they bother giving the guy any characterization at all if we weren't meant to recognize him? This does [[FridgeLogic beg the question]] as to why if he served as Sheva's legal guardian, brought her to the U.S. and put her through school, she can't recall his name. But then, that's a good question no matter who the man in suit really was.
** For what it's worth, we do see Leon wear a suit in ''Anime/ResidentEvilInfiniteDarkness''... With no tie.

[[WMG: Despite Word of God Wesker is still out there.]]
It's canonically stated in the game that the Wesker Chris and Sheva killed was just a clone. Nobody's perfect not, even the creators of a series. They said Wesker's dead yet the so called Wesker that died was just an organic drone. Why don't the creators try explaining that? Even though the Mercenaries mini-game is non-canon, it does give you a better perception of the character's abilities. The Wesker in RE4 punch attack can send an enemy flying through the other side of the game, but a punch from that Wesker clone in RE5 only causes an enemy to stumble back a little. Even in Resident Evil: Afterlife Wesker seems like more speed and a little strength where he can move like a champ but he hits like a normal human. It's stated that Wesker can life hundreds and even thousands of pounds so he shouldn't have a problem with caving an enemy's skull in with single punch or kick like in RE4. In Resident Evil: Code Veroncia Wesker's hits are painful, but not deadly to Chris, I don't know if he was a clone or he wasn't trying that hard so I can't say if that was the real Wesker. I believe the Wesker in RE4 was the true one. He out of all the Weskers has truly superhuman strength and has only people working for him, even if they're traitors. The real Wesker can't afford to be jeapordized in any way and is also smarter than the clones so he chooses to stay in his own personal HQ instead of where all "the action" is like all the other Weskers. In RE4 he'd had two agents working for him, in RE5 he doesn't mention not a thing about Las Plagas or anything about RE4, why? Because he didn't know about it, because he wasn't there the real Wesker was.
** They'll no doubt bring him back if they can't come up with any good ideas for part 6, but, um, how sure are you that you didn't make up that "organic clone" business just now? Because I'm almost positive you made it up.
* Organic means it has flesh, it isn't mechanical because it's not a machine and it bleeds and has DNA so it's organic. By the way it was a clone, it was stated in the game.
** Nice dodge, but it's the "clone" part that isn't making any sense. When is that canonically stated at any point in any of the three scenarios? Show the source.
* Dodge?! It was stated that the Wesker we fight was a clone in a flashback in RE5, after Wesker was told he was a clone he killed that man who was trying to become a god. Haven't you played or at least played any attention to RE5
** The Wesker Children were not genetically related. They were kidnapped, brainwashed, and later administered the Progenitor Virus. Read the files.
* Clones, "children" whatever. The point is the Wesker that died in RE5 was just a knock off and the real one is still at large.
* Nobody knows what happened to Alex Wesker. Alex disappeared after an incident in 2005 in the timeline. And Albert was not a knock off or a fake in some way.
* Just like I said it was a fake.
** Bah, cloning or not, the point of it all is that if they want to bring Wesker back, they'll come up with ''something'', [[AssPull whether it's already been foreshadowed or not]].
** Welp, thanks to ''RE6'', we now know that cloning is indeed possible in the RE universe, so Capcom certainly has a plausible excuse to bring him back if they ever wanted to...
* The Wesker children were not clones, they all had different names (and judging by some of the names, were from differ ent countries and ethnicities: there was a Hans, a Hiro and a Marco), and while they were selected and raised by Umbrella, they had different personalities (yes, Alex and Albert are both evil, but they're quite different people) and can't really be called "knockoffs" of each other. The files make it clear they were not related.

[[WMG:William Birkin is one of the Wesker Children]]
In the newly-released chapter of [=RE5=], one of the files is a list of test subjects. Number Eight on that list is "William". (Warning: tl;dr incoming.)

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[[WMG:Jill's [[spoiler:genetic testing (thing)]] RE5 [[WMG:The "man in the suit with no tie" from Sheva's dossier was turning her into [[Franchise/MetalGear Solid Snake]].Leon S. Kennedy.]]
In [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil5 ''Desperate Escape'']], when you play as Jill, she walks the exact same way Raiden does in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', has the exact same hair colour, the same outfit, just as gender confused... now since Raiden was basically wanting to be Snake, Jill is another Raiden, that is another person who did the same video game testing (which is what [[spoiler:Wesker did to her before and during RE5]])... It changed her hair color to make her more like Raiden. [[spoiler:Wesker]] did all of that because if he had Snake on his team, he wouldn't have lost.

[[WMG: Wesker is the Resident Evil version of the antichrist.]]
Superhuman abilities, the ability to manipulate people in the snap of a finger, extreme selfishness, his interest in politics, demonic slaves and more importantly the will to take over the world and engulf it in darkness,also that "global saturaton"(engulf the world in darkness) nonsense seemed to be a plain give away. Does that not sound like the anti christ to any of you?

[[WMG: The "man in the suit with no tie" from Sheva's dossier was Leon]]
He worked for the U.S. Government and seemed to have a very personal stake in seeing Umbrella brought down. Based on her given age and the RE timeline, Sheva first met the man in 2000, which was after Leon had been recruited. Sure, it's not much to go on, but why would they bother giving the guy any characterization at all if we weren't meant to recognize him? This does [[FridgeLogic beg the question]] question as to why if he served as Sheva's legal guardian, brought her to the U.S. and put her through school, she can't recall his name. But then, that's a good question no matter who the man in suit really was.
** * For what it's worth, we do see Leon wear in a suit with no tie in ''Anime/ResidentEvilInfiniteDarkness''... With no tie.

[[WMG: Despite Word
''Anime/ResidentEvilInfiniteDarkness''.

[[WMG:William Birkin is one
of God the Wesker is still out there.Children.]]
It's canonically stated in the game that the Wesker Chris and Sheva killed was just a clone. Nobody's perfect not, even the creators of a series. They said Wesker's dead yet the so called Wesker that died was just an organic drone. Why don't the creators try explaining that? Even though the Mercenaries mini-game is non-canon, it does give you a better perception of the character's abilities. The Wesker in RE4 punch attack can send an enemy flying through the other side of the game, but a punch from that Wesker clone in RE5 only causes an enemy to stumble back a little. Even in Resident Evil: Afterlife Wesker seems like more speed and a little strength where he can move like a champ but he hits like a normal human. It's stated that Wesker can life hundreds and even thousands of pounds so he shouldn't have a problem with caving an enemy's skull in with single punch or kick like in RE4. In Resident Evil: Code Veroncia Wesker's hits are painful, but not deadly to Chris, I don't know if he was a clone or he wasn't trying that hard so I can't say if that was the real Wesker. I believe the Wesker in RE4 was the true one. He out of all the Weskers has truly superhuman strength and has only people working for him, even if they're traitors. The real Wesker can't afford to be jeapordized in any way and is also smarter than the clones so he chooses to stay in his own personal HQ instead of where all "the action" is like all the other Weskers. In RE4 he'd had two agents working for him, in RE5 he doesn't mention not a thing about Las Plagas or anything about RE4, why? Because he didn't know about it, because he wasn't there the real Wesker was.
** They'll no doubt bring him back if they can't come up with any good ideas for part 6, but, um, how sure are you that you didn't make up that "organic clone" business just now? Because I'm almost positive you made it up.
* Organic means it has flesh, it isn't mechanical because it's not a machine and it bleeds and has DNA so it's organic. By the way it was a clone, it was stated in the game.
** Nice dodge, but it's the "clone" part that isn't making any sense. When is that canonically stated at any point in any of the three scenarios? Show the source.
* Dodge?! It was stated that the Wesker we fight was a clone in a flashback in RE5, after Wesker was told he was a clone he killed that man who was trying to become a god. Haven't you played or at least played any attention to RE5
** The Wesker Children were not genetically related. They were kidnapped, brainwashed, and later administered the Progenitor Virus. Read the files.
* Clones, "children" whatever. The point is the Wesker that died in RE5 was just a knock off and the real one is still at large.
* Nobody knows what happened to Alex Wesker. Alex disappeared after an incident in 2005 in the timeline. And Albert was not a knock off or a fake in some way.
* Just like I said it was a fake.
** Bah, cloning or not, the point of it all is that if they want to bring Wesker back, they'll come up with ''something'', [[AssPull whether it's already been foreshadowed or not]].
** Welp, thanks to ''RE6'', we now know that cloning is indeed possible in the RE universe, so Capcom certainly has a plausible excuse to bring him back if they ever wanted to...
* The Wesker children were not clones, they all had different names (and judging by some of the names, were from differ ent countries and ethnicities: there was a Hans, a Hiro and a Marco), and while they were selected and raised by Umbrella, they had different personalities (yes, Alex and Albert are both evil, but they're quite different people) and can't really be called "knockoffs" of each other. The files make it clear they were not related.

[[WMG:William Birkin is one of the Wesker Children]]
In the newly-released chapter of [=RE5=], RE5, one of the files is a list of test subjects. Number Eight on that list is "William". (Warning: tl;dr incoming.)



** Why else would two young, hot-shot geniuses get hired at the same time and put in the same location?

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** Why else would two young, hot-shot hotshot geniuses get hired at the same time and put in the same location?



** Because he is a bit of a puss, it's entirely possible that while he was bleeding on the floor, he had a panic attack and decided that for an extra security measure he should inject the G-virus too. An extra bit of proof for this one: In Degeneration, when Curtis first transformed, he actually was significantly larger and a bit less human looking. Perhaps mixing the G-virus with the Wesker-Project-virus made Birkin retain his more human-like appearance for the first few transformations.
* I've done the math: In [=RE5=], in a file signed by "Alex W.", it's stated that the success of Project W is now down to 18% thanks to Wesker dying in Spencer's Mansion. In the new chapter, it's stated that there were 13 test subjects. 18% of 13 is 2, meaning there were two test subjects still alive. Alex is obviously one of them, the second one is unknown.
** The Raccoon City outbreak had yet to happen, meaning that Birkin would have still been alive at the time this note was written.
* There's also a possibility that he had previously been injected considering William was #8, while Wesker was down at #13. Why doesn't he have red eyes, then?
** You don't get red eyes until you die. Wesker wasn't like that until after he woke up from being stabbed by the Tyrant. After Birkin is shot however, his eyes do turn red. This is an interesting thing to note, because no one else that was infected with the G-virus had their eyes turn red before the G-type either burst from their chest or transformed.

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** Because he is he's a bit of a puss, it's entirely possible that while he was bleeding out on the floor, he had a panic attack and decided that for an extra security measure he should inject the G-virus too. An extra bit of proof for this one: In Degeneration, when Curtis first transformed, he was actually was significantly larger and a bit less human looking. Perhaps mixing the G-virus with the Wesker-Project-virus made Birkin retain his more human-like humanoid appearance for the first few transformations.
* I've done the math: In [=RE5=], RE5, in a file signed by "Alex W.", it's stated that the success of Project W is now down to 18% thanks to Wesker dying in Spencer's Mansion. In the new chapter, it's stated that there were 13 test subjects. 18% of 13 is 2, two, meaning there were two test subjects still alive. Alex is obviously one of them, the second one is unknown.
** The Raccoon City outbreak Outbreak had yet to happen, meaning take place, which means that Birkin would have would've still been alive at the time when this note was written.
* There's also a possibility that he had he'd previously been injected considering William was #8, while Wesker was down at #13. Why doesn't he have red eyes, then?
** You don't get red eyes until after you die. Wesker wasn't like that until after he woke up from being stabbed by the Tyrant. After Birkin is shot however, his eyes do turn red. This is an interesting thing to note, because no one else that who was infected with the G-virus had their eyes turn red before the G-type either burst from their chest or transformed.



* This could explain Birkin's paranoia. Maybe he's not privy to what he is and only has fleeting dreams and memories of being injected with things so he's just convinced that someone out there is trying to get him and he has no idea why.

[[WMG:Jill will team up with Josh in ''Resident Evil 5''.]]
If you think about what happened to Jill [[spoiler:after being freed from Wesker's control]], this could be her story.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed in the ''Desperate Escape'' DLC]].

[[WMG: Wesker could control Uroboros]]
It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they don't actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he didn't install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could've just ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become [[PersonOfMassDestruction something]] like [[VideoGame/{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]

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[[WMG:Wesker
could explain Birkin's paranoia. Maybe he's not privy to what he is and only has fleeting dreams and memories of being injected with things so he's just convinced that someone out there is trying to get him and he has no idea why.

[[WMG:Jill will team up with Josh in ''Resident Evil 5''.
control Uroboros.]]
If you think about what happened to Jill [[spoiler:after being freed from Wesker's control]], this could be her story.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed in the ''Desperate Escape'' DLC]].

[[WMG: Wesker could control Uroboros]]
It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they don't actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he didn't install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could've just ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become [[PersonOfMassDestruction something]] something like [[VideoGame/{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]

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They NeverFoundTheBody after dropping him inside the volcano, and the rockets seemed to have shot just past him, exploding behind him. Not to mention that it seemed like the lava was little more than a hot bath to Wesker, and he's already survived certain, confirmed death once before. If anything, the ending to [=RE5=] is even ''more'' ambiguous as to whether or not he was actually killed.
* Alternatively, Wesker is dead. For some, it's an expected outcome that the guy who has been behind everything pretty much since the beginning is still alive, but it's no big hit to the series for the guy to be gone. The setting of the game has a perfect, built-in reason for more crazy monster hijinks without a mastermind: Just about any psycho with a chip on his shoulder can now search through his own Zombie n' Stuff catalog and buy some horrible monster from the black market. Also, in the Resident Evil verse, some horrible new monster creating pathogen is lurking in every other cave or small, out of the way village.

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They NeverFoundTheBody after dropping him inside the volcano, and the rockets seemed to have shot just past him, exploding behind him. Not to mention that it seemed like the lava was little more than a hot bath to Wesker, and he's already survived certain, confirmed death once before. If anything, the ending to [=RE5=] RE5 is even ''more'' ambiguous as to whether or not he was actually killed.
* Alternatively, Wesker is dead. For some, it's an expected outcome that the guy who has who's been behind everything since pretty much since the beginning beginning, is still alive, but it's no big hit major blow to the series franchise for the guy to be gone. The setting of the game has a perfect, built-in reason for more crazy monster hijinks without a mastermind: Just about any psycho with a chip on his shoulder can now search through his own Zombie n' Stuff catalog and buy some horrible monster from the black market. Also, in the Resident Evil verse, some horrible new monster creating pathogen is lurking in every other cave or small, out of the way village.



* Alternatively, Wesker ''did'' die at the end of Resident Evil 5, but that was [[CloningGambit just a clone]] of the real Wesker. Why else would he constantly need [=PG67A/W=] to keep himself from mutating? ''[[ActuallyADoombot Because he's a clone of Wesker,]]'' and therefore unstable. The real Wesker is still sitting in his comfortable satellite TV room drinking champagne.

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* Alternatively, Wesker ''did'' die at the end of Resident Evil 5, but that was [[CloningGambit just a clone]] of the real Wesker. Why else would he constantly need [=PG67A/W=] to keep himself from mutating? ''[[ActuallyADoombot Because ''Because he's a clone of Wesker,]]'' Wesker,'' and therefore unstable. The real Wesker is still sitting in his comfortable satellite TV room drinking champagne.



And in the next game, we will finally get to see his face, and it will look like Wesker's.

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And in the next game, we will finally get to see his face, and it will it'll look like Wesker's.



** Oddly enough, when this troper saw HUNK's face, his first thought "HOLY FUCKING SHIT! IT'S WESKER'S BROTHER!".

[[WMG:The 'Complete Global Saturation' meme is going to get RuleThirtyFour'd.]]
Let me ''not'' elaborate on just how it will happen.
** You might be interested in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p52-QBTXZyM this video]].
*** "''COMPLETE. GLOBAL. PENETRATION.''"
*** "''COMPLETE. GLOBAL. MASTURBATION.''"
*** "''COMPLETE. GLOBAL. CASTRATION.''"

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** Oddly enough, when this troper saw HUNK's face, his first thought "HOLY FUCKING SHIT! IT'S WESKER'S BROTHER!".

[[WMG:The 'Complete Global Saturation' meme is going to get RuleThirtyFour'd.]]
Let me ''not'' elaborate on just how it will happen.
** You might be interested in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p52-QBTXZyM this video]].
*** "''COMPLETE. GLOBAL. PENETRATION.''"
*** "''COMPLETE. GLOBAL. MASTURBATION.''"
*** "''COMPLETE. GLOBAL. CASTRATION.''"



Wesker created an experimental clone or heavily modified another individual before the Spencer Mansion incident, in order to fake his death with a body as evidence, and the BSAA as his witness. However, the clone survived, and began to develop its own personality and goals based on Spencer's, to become a god. As [=RE5=] progressed, it began to degenerate as it was torn between its own consciousness and that of Wesker's. Facing off against Chris (who was a major part of Wesker's memories, which may have been implanted into the clone) probably helped with this, as well as the viral overdose. Thus, at the end of Resident Evil 5, the clone's purpose has been accomplished in a roundabout and unwilling fashion, and the broken remnants of the Uroboros project and Tricell Africa can be seized by Wesker.
* So Wesker was his own UnwittingPawn? Holy shit, that gives a whole new meaning to MyDeathIsOnlyTheBeginning.
** [[NightmareFuel *whimper*]]
** That would explain how Wesker was in the cargo hold during the fight with Chris and Sheva, then suddenly shows up from the front of the bomber after it crashes.

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Wesker created an experimental clone or heavily modified another individual before the Spencer Mansion incident, in order to fake his death with a body as evidence, and the BSAA B.S.A.A. as his witness. However, the clone survived, and began to develop its own personality and goals based on Spencer's, to become a god. As [=RE5=] Resident Evil 5 progressed, it began to degenerate as it was torn between its own consciousness and that of Wesker's. Facing off against Chris (who was a major part of Wesker's memories, which may have may've been implanted into the clone) probably helped with this, as well as the viral overdose. Thus, at the end of Resident Evil 5, the clone's purpose has been accomplished in a roundabout and unwilling fashion, and the broken remnants of the Uroboros project and Tricell Africa can be seized by Wesker.
* So Wesker was his own UnwittingPawn? Holy shit, that gives a whole new meaning to MyDeathIsOnlyTheBeginning.
** [[NightmareFuel *whimper*]]
**
That would explain how Wesker was in the cargo hold during the fight with Chris and Sheva, then suddenly shows up from the front of the bomber after it crashes.



After years of trying to track down Ozwell Spencer, Wesker couldn't handle the revelation that he was being manipulated all along. So he cracked and, after [[ShutUpHannibal killing Spencer]], could no longer muster the will to live. Unwilling to simply stop taking doses of the virus that keeps him alive and superpowered, he decides to commit [[DeathSeeker suicide by proxy]], using the only man in the world he [[FoeYay respects]]: [[TheHero Chris Redfield]]. He starts by faking the death of Chris's old STARS associate and current partner, Jill Valentine. Then he devises a way to control Jill and use her as a puppet against Chris. Finally, he draws Chris into his trap, with Jill as the bait. The one factor he failed to consider was Sheva, Chris's [[ReplacementGoldfish new partner]], who he then tries to kill in order to inspire Chris to finish him. He fails, but still manages to get his grand final showdown with Chris. All that crap about [[MotiveDecay a new world order ushered in by Uroboros]] was just a cover story to disguise his true intentions.
* This would mean that Wesker also counted on Irving pulling a LeeroyJenkins and alerting the BSAA to the dealings in Kijuju in order to lure Chris into this aforementioned trap.
** To be fair, despite all of his boasting, Irving was quite a moron, placing an idiot in charge of the arms dealing side would be easy bait for Wesker to pull in the B.S.A.A. simple really, also making sure that the plaga Jill gave Irving was weak and easily killable, also the fact that ''Wesker'' was not compatible with the Ouroboros, only his own Virus was keeping the leech... things from consuming him.

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After years of trying to track down Ozwell Spencer, Wesker couldn't handle the revelation that he was being manipulated all along. So he cracked and, after [[ShutUpHannibal killing Spencer]], Spencer, could no longer muster the will to live. Unwilling to simply stop taking doses of the virus that keeps him alive and superpowered, he decides to commit [[DeathSeeker suicide by proxy]], proxy, using the only man in the world he [[FoeYay respects]]: [[TheHero respects: Chris Redfield]]. Redfield. He starts by faking the death of Chris's Chris' old STARS S.T.A.R.S. associate and current partner, Jill Valentine. Then he devises a way to control Jill and use her as a puppet against Chris. Finally, he draws Chris into his trap, with Jill as the bait. The one factor he failed to consider was Sheva, Chris's [[ReplacementGoldfish new partner]], partner, who he then tries to kill in order to inspire Chris to finish him. He fails, but still manages to get his grand final showdown with Chris. All that crap about [[MotiveDecay a new world order ushered in by Uroboros]] Uroboros was just a cover story to disguise his true intentions.
* This would mean that Wesker also counted on Irving pulling a LeeroyJenkins Leeroy Jenkins and alerting the BSAA B.S.A.A. to the dealings in Kijuju in order to lure Chris into this aforementioned trap.
** To be fair, despite all of his boasting, Irving was quite a moron, placing an idiot in charge of the arms dealing side would be easy bait for Wesker to pull in the B.S.A.A. simple really, also making sure that the plaga Plaga Jill gave Irving was weak and easily killable, also the fact that ''Wesker'' was not compatible incompatible with the Ouroboros, only his own Virus was keeping the leech... things from consuming him.

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* Wouldn't ''all of them'' be just as dangerous, given their virtually identical upbringings, brainwashings, and superpower infections? Even if it wasn't the initial Wesker (the source materials make it pretty clear that it was in fact Albert), Chris and Sheva still killed one really bad dude.

[[WMG: Wesker is [[{{Asexuality}} asexual.]]]]
* Or he could just not have time for sex. I mean, think about the women he's had around him: His mortal enemy's little sister, Claire, Ada Wong, who probably keeps knives in her vagina or something, Jill Valentine (who openly hated him when not under his control). (And even if he DID want anything of the sort from her while she was brainwashed, I'm pretty sure being reminded of her shoving him out a window and to the bottom of a cliff was a major boner killer.) And then there's Excella. Yeah, sure, she's smart and hot and Italian, but when you take away the dress, she's still just a common whore; god knows what's been between HER legs.
* Given that he was trying to repopulate the world with superior beings (and that he considered himself a superior being), he probably should've ''made'' time for it. Then again, knowing Wesker, he probably would've genetically engineered a bunch of [[DesignerBabies test tube kids]]. When you've got your arch-nemesis chasing your tail, you really don't have the time to chase any tail yourself.

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* Wouldn't ''all of them'' be just as dangerous, given their virtually identical upbringings, brainwashings, and superpower infections? Even if it wasn't the initial Wesker (the source materials make it pretty crystal clear that it was in fact Albert), Chris and Sheva still killed one really bad dude.

motherfucker.

[[WMG: Wesker is [[{{Asexuality}} asexual.]]]]
* Or he could just not have time for sex. I mean, think about the women he's had around him: His mortal enemy's little sister, Claire, Ada Wong, who probably keeps knives in her vagina or something, Jill Valentine (who openly hated him when not under his control). (And even if he DID want anything of the sort from her while she was brainwashed, I'm pretty sure being reminded of her shoving him out a window and to the bottom of a cliff was a major boner killer.) And then there's Excella. Yeah, sure, she's smart and smart, hot and Italian, but when you take away the dress, she's still just a common whore; god knows what's been between HER legs.
unbearably clingy.
* Given that he was trying to repopulate the world with superior beings (and that he considered himself a superior being), he probably should've ''made'' time for it. Then again, knowing Wesker, he probably would've genetically engineered a bunch of [[DesignerBabies test tube kids]].kids. When you've got your arch-nemesis chasing your tail, you really don't have the time to chase any tail yourself.



Think about it. Chris has obviously taken SEVERAL [[TookALevelInBadass levels in badass]] since we saw him last in Code: Veronica. Now, if you read some of the [[AllThereInTheManual flavor files]] that you unlock as you play through VideoGame/ResidentEvil5, it says that Chris is their top agent, with far more successful missions than any other. The BSAA is funded by the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium, a bunch of companies that are what Umbrella claimed to be: medical researchers and manufacturers. It's not that far fetched to think that they'd have a more stable version of Wesker's SuperSerum. It's also not that far fetched to think that Chris may have taken it after Jill's [[HeroicSacrifice death.]] This enhancement would explain [[MadeOfIron punching a boulder]] and [[SuperStrength moving it]], as well as the fact that he can use a [[BigFreakingGun full sized]] rifle-caliber [[GatlingGood minigun]] when all the other protagonists could only use 3-barrel baby versions. He still can't quite match Wesker's [[FlashStep game]] [[NighInvulnerable breaker]] [[SuperStrength powers]], but he doesn't have to inject fresh doses constantly and his sanity is intact.

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Think about it. Chris has obviously taken SEVERAL [[TookALevelInBadass levels in badass]] being a badass since we saw him last in Code: Veronica. Now, if you read some of the [[AllThereInTheManual flavor files]] files that you unlock as you play through VideoGame/ResidentEvil5, Resident Evil 5, it says that Chris is their top agent, with far more successful missions than any other. The BSAA B.S.A.A. is funded by the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium, a bunch of companies that are what Umbrella claimed to be: medical researchers and manufacturers. It's not that far fetched to think that they'd have a more stable version of Wesker's SuperSerum. super serum. It's also not that far fetched to think that Chris may have taken it after Jill's [[HeroicSacrifice death.]] death. This enhancement would explain [[MadeOfIron punching a boulder]] boulder and [[SuperStrength moving it]], it, as well as the fact that he can use a [[BigFreakingGun full sized]] sized rifle-caliber [[GatlingGood minigun]] mini-gun when all the other protagonists could only use 3-barrel three-barrel baby versions. He still can't quite match Wesker's [[FlashStep game]] [[NighInvulnerable breaker]] [[SuperStrength powers]], game-breaker powers, but he doesn't have to inject fresh doses constantly and his sanity is intact.



* I personally think that he, while fighting zombies for a decade, got somehow exposed to a small dose of a virus but, like Jill, appeared to be immune and just assimilated the virus. In Jill's case, it resulted in increased agility and speed; in Chris's, it resulted in rapid muscle devlopement and increased strength. Yeah, "Chriiiiiisss!!" turned into a [[VideoGame/Left4Dead "TAAAAAAANK!!"]].

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* I personally think that he, while fighting zombies for a decade, got somehow exposed to a small dose of a virus but, like Jill, appeared to be immune and just assimilated the virus. In Jill's case, it resulted in increased agility and speed; in Chris's, Chris', it resulted in rapid muscle devlopement development and increased strength. Yeah, "Chriiiiiisss!!" turned into a [[VideoGame/Left4Dead "TAAAAAAANK!!"]].
strength.



* Well, think about it, he was told to get an immortality virus for Spencer, but disappeared after making it. He's a ManipulativeBastard, so he'd probably be the next bad guy.

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* Well, think about it, he was told to get an immortality virus for Spencer, but disappeared after making it. He's a ManipulativeBastard, manipulative bastard, so he'd probably be the next bad guy.



*** As of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2'', Alex Wesker is indeed the new villain... [[SamusIsAGirl and he's not a "he"]].

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*** As of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2'', Alex Wesker is indeed the new villain... [[SamusIsAGirl and he's not a "he"]].
"he".



In [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil5 ''Desperate Escape'']], when you play as Jill, she walks the exact same way Raiden does in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', has the exact same hair colour, the same outfit, just as gender confused... now since Raiden was basically wanting to be Snake, Jill is another Raiden, that is another person who did the same video game testing (which is what [[spoiler:Wesker did to her before and during RE5]])... It changed her hair colour to make her more like Raiden. [[spoiler:Wesker]] did all of that because if he had Snake on his team, he wouldn't have lost.
** Next step is becoming a mutant ninja cyborg!

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In [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil5 ''Desperate Escape'']], when you play as Jill, she walks the exact same way Raiden does in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', has the exact same hair colour, the same outfit, just as gender confused... now since Raiden was basically wanting to be Snake, Jill is another Raiden, that is another person who did the same video game testing (which is what [[spoiler:Wesker did to her before and during RE5]])... It changed her hair colour color to make her more like Raiden. [[spoiler:Wesker]] did all of that because if he had Snake on his team, he wouldn't have lost.
** Next step is becoming a mutant ninja cyborg!



Super human abilities, the ability to manipulate people in the snap of a finger, extreme selfishness, his interest in politics, demonic slaves and more importantly the will to take over the world and engulf it in darkness,also that "global saturaton"(engulf the world in darkness) nonsense seemed to be a plain give away. Does that not sound like the anti christ to any of you?

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Super human Superhuman abilities, the ability to manipulate people in the snap of a finger, extreme selfishness, his interest in politics, demonic slaves and more importantly the will to take over the world and engulf it in darkness,also that "global saturaton"(engulf the world in darkness) nonsense seemed to be a plain give away. Does that not sound like the anti christ to any of you?

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** Oddly enough, when this troper saw HUNK's face, his first thought "HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S WESKER'S BROTHER!".

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** Oddly enough, when this troper saw HUNK's face, his first thought "HOLY FUCKING SHIT SHIT! IT'S WESKER'S BROTHER!".



I must deflate FoeYay with logic.
* Or he could just not have time for sex. I mean, think about the females he's had around him: His mortal enemy's little sister, Claire, Ada Wong, who probably keeps knives in her vagina or something, Jill Valentine (who openly hated him when not under his control). (And even if he DID want anything of the sort from her while she was brainwashed, I'm pretty sure being reminded of her shoving him out of a window and to the bottom of a cliff killed his boner.) And then there's Excella. Yeah, sure, she's smart and hot and Italian, but when you take away the shitty ass dress, she's still just a common whore; god knows what's been between HER legs.

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I must deflate FoeYay with logic.
* Or he could just not have time for sex. I mean, think about the females women he's had around him: His mortal enemy's little sister, Claire, Ada Wong, who probably keeps knives in her vagina or something, Jill Valentine (who openly hated him when not under his control). (And even if he DID want anything of the sort from her while she was brainwashed, I'm pretty sure being reminded of her shoving him out of a window and to the bottom of a cliff killed his boner.was a major boner killer.) And then there's Excella. Yeah, sure, she's smart and hot and Italian, but when you take away the shitty ass dress, she's still just a common whore; god knows what's been between HER legs.






It's canoncially stated in the game that the Wesker Chris & Sheva killed was just a clone. Nobodies perfect not even the creators of a series. They said Wesker's dead yet the so called wesker that died was just a organic drone. Why don't the creators try explaining that. Even though the mercenaries minigame is non-canon it does give you a better perception of the character's abilities. The Wesker in RE4 punch attack can send an enemy flying through the other side of the game but a punch from that Wesker clone in RE5 only causes an enemy to stumble back a little. Even in the RE afterlife movie Wesker seems like more speed and a little strength where he can move like a champ but his hits like a normal human. It's stated that Wesker can life hundreds and even thousands of pound so he shouldn't have a problem with smashing an enemy's skull in with one punch or kick like in RE4. In Resident evil code veroncia(RECV) Weskers hits are painful but not deadly to chris, I don't know if he was a clone or he wasn't trying that hard so I can't say if that was the real Wesker. I believe the Wesker in RE4 was the real one. He out of all the Wesker has real super strength and has only people working for him, even if they are traders. The real Wesker can't afford to be jeapordized in any way and is also more smarter than the clones so he chooses to stay in his own personal HQ instead of where all "the action" is like all the other Weskers. In RE4 he had had 2 agents working for him, in RE5 he doesn't mention not a thing about las plagas or anything about RE4, why? Because he didn't know about it, because he wasn't there the real Wesker was.

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It's canoncially canonically stated in the game that the Wesker Chris & and Sheva killed was just a clone. Nobodies Nobody's perfect not not, even the creators of a series. They said Wesker's dead yet the so called wesker Wesker that died was just a an organic drone. Why don't the creators try explaining that. that? Even though the mercenaries minigame Mercenaries mini-game is non-canon non-canon, it does give you a better perception of the character's abilities. The Wesker in RE4 punch attack can send an enemy flying through the other side of the game game, but a punch from that Wesker clone in RE5 only causes an enemy to stumble back a little. Even in the RE afterlife movie Resident Evil: Afterlife Wesker seems like more speed and a little strength where he can move like a champ but his he hits like a normal human. It's stated that Wesker can life hundreds and even thousands of pound pounds so he shouldn't have a problem with smashing caving an enemy's skull in with one single punch or kick like in RE4. In Resident evil code veroncia(RECV) Weskers Evil: Code Veroncia Wesker's hits are painful painful, but not deadly to chris, Chris, I don't know if he was a clone or he wasn't trying that hard so I can't say if that was the real Wesker. I believe the Wesker in RE4 was the real true one. He out of all the Wesker Weskers has real super truly superhuman strength and has only people working for him, even if they are traders. they're traitors. The real Wesker can't afford to be jeapordized in any way and is also more smarter than the clones so he chooses to stay in his own personal HQ instead of where all "the action" is like all the other Weskers. In RE4 he he'd had had 2 two agents working for him, in RE5 he doesn't mention not a thing about las plagas Las Plagas or anything about RE4, why? Because he didn't know about it, because he wasn't there the real Wesker was.



* Organic means it has flesh, it's not mechanical because it's not a machine and it bleeds and has DNA so it's organic. By the way it was a clone, it was stated in the game.

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* Organic means it has flesh, it's not it isn't mechanical because it's not a machine and it bleeds and has DNA so it's organic. By the way it was a clone, it was stated in the game.



* The Wesker children were not clones, they all had different names (and judging by some of the names, were from differ ent countries and ethnicities: there was a Hans, a Hiro and a Marco), and while they were selected and raised by Umbrella, they had different personalities (yes, Alex and Albert are both evil, but they're quite different people) and can't really be called "knock offs" of each other. The files make it clear they were not related.

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* The Wesker children were not clones, they all had different names (and judging by some of the names, were from differ ent countries and ethnicities: there was a Hans, a Hiro and a Marco), and while they were selected and raised by Umbrella, they had different personalities (yes, Alex and Albert are both evil, but they're quite different people) and can't really be called "knock offs" "knockoffs" of each other. The files make it clear they were not related.



In the newly-released chapter of [=RE5=], one of the files is a list of test subjects. Number Eight on that list is "William". (Warning: tl;dr incoming)

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In the newly-released chapter of [=RE5=], one of the files is a list of test subjects. Number Eight on that list is "William". (Warning: tl;dr incoming)incoming.)



It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they do not actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he did not install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could just have ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become [[PersonOfMassDestruction something]] like [[VideoGame/{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]

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It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they do not don't actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he did not didn't install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could could've just have ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become [[PersonOfMassDestruction something]] like [[VideoGame/{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]



Mostly because he's a jerk.

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** For what it's worth, we do see Leon wear a suit in ''Anime/ResidentEvilInfiniteDarkness''... With no tie.



* The Wesker children were not clones, they all had different names (and judging by some of the names, were from different countries and ethnicities: there was a Hans, a Hiro and a Marco), and while they were selected and raised by Umbrella, they had different personalities (yes, Alex and Albert are both evil, but they're quite different people) and can't really be called "knock offs" of each other. The files make it clear they were not related.

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* The Wesker children were not clones, they all had different names (and judging by some of the names, were from different differ ent countries and ethnicities: there was a Hans, a Hiro and a Marco), and while they were selected and raised by Umbrella, they had different personalities (yes, Alex and Albert are both evil, but they're quite different people) and can't really be called "knock offs" of each other. The files make it clear they were not related.
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It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they do not actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he did not install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could just have ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become [[PersonOfMassDestruction something]] like [[VideoGame/{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]

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It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they do not actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he did not install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could just have ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become [[PersonOfMassDestruction something]] like [[VideoGame/{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]]]

[[WMG:Ricardo's the one who outfitted the Ndipaya Majini in stereotypical "savage African" garb and weapons.]]
Mostly because he's a jerk.
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** To be fair, despite all of his boasting, Irving was quite a moron, placing an idiot in charge of the arms dealing side would be easy bait for Wesker to pull in the B.S.A.A. simple really, also making sure that the plaga Jill gave Irving was weak and easily killable, also the fact that ''Wesker'' was not compatible with the Ouroboros, only his own Virus was keeping the leech... things from consuming him.
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* The Wesker children were not clones, they all had different names (and judging by some of the names, were from different countries and ethnicities: there was a Hans, a Hiro and a Marco), and while they were selected and raised by Umbrella, they had different personalities (yes, Alex and Albert are both evil, but they're quite different people) and can't really be called "knock offs" of each other. The files make it clear they were not related.
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*** As of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2'', Alex Wesker is indeed the new villain... [[SamusIsAGirl and he's not a "he"]].
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* Tropers/{{Tofu}}: This one's been {{Jossed}}. WordOfGod said he's dead and gone. (has a little party)

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* Tropers/{{Tofu}}: This one's been {{Jossed}}. WordOfGod said he's dead and gone. (has a little party)
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* I personally think that he, while fighting zombies for a decade, got somehow exposed to a small dose of a virus but, like Jill, appeared to be immune and just assimilated the virus. In Jill's case, it resulted in increased agility and speed; in Chris's, it resulted in rapid muscle devlopement and increased strength. Yeah, "Chriiiiiisss!!" turned into a [[Left4Dead "TAAAAAAANK!!"]].

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* I personally think that he, while fighting zombies for a decade, got somehow exposed to a small dose of a virus but, like Jill, appeared to be immune and just assimilated the virus. In Jill's case, it resulted in increased agility and speed; in Chris's, it resulted in rapid muscle devlopement and increased strength. Yeah, "Chriiiiiisss!!" turned into a [[Left4Dead [[VideoGame/Left4Dead "TAAAAAAANK!!"]].
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It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they do not actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he did not install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could just have ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become [[PersonOfMassDestruction something]] like [[{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]

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It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they do not actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he did not install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could just have ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become [[PersonOfMassDestruction something]] like [[{{Prototype}} [[VideoGame/{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed in the ''Desperate Escape'' DLC]].

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[[WMG: Wesker could control Uroboros]]
It's not fun to be a god of superhumans if they do not actually worship you. He wouldn't be Wesker if he did not install some fail-safe that would ensure their complete loyalty, and Las Plagas had already provided a perfect mechanism. Since all Majini were controlled by Wesker, we can pretty much assume that all Uroboros beings would be too - including [[spoiler: his CombatTentacles in the final battle. It's entirely possible that if his serum overdose that was messing with his self-control wore off, he could just have ''rejected'' the virus and shrugged it off - or, worse, absorbed it completely to become [[PersonOfMassDestruction something]] like [[{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]].]]
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[[WMG:William Birkin is one of the Wesker Children]]
In the newly-released chapter of [=RE5=], one of the files is a list of test subjects. Number Eight on that list is "William". (Warning: tl;dr incoming)
* Birkin graduated from school at the age of 15, and in the RE series, ungodly intellect like that has so-far meant that they were "created".
* He's around the same age as Wesker, and they both began working at Umbrella around the same time. Spencer obviously wouldn't just wait an extraneous amount of time to keep going with this project.
** Why else would two young, hot-shot geniuses get hired at the same time and put in the same location?
* Birkin, who's a bit of a puss, stood up to a pair of armed guards fearlessly. Maybe he was figuring he'd start seeing in bullet time all of a sudden, assuming he'd just infected himself, similar to how Wesker infected himself prior to the mansion incident.
** Because he is a bit of a puss, it's entirely possible that while he was bleeding on the floor, he had a panic attack and decided that for an extra security measure he should inject the G-virus too. An extra bit of proof for this one: In Degeneration, when Curtis first transformed, he actually was significantly larger and a bit less human looking. Perhaps mixing the G-virus with the Wesker-Project-virus made Birkin retain his more human-like appearance for the first few transformations.
* I've done the math: In [=RE5=], in a file signed by "Alex W.", it's stated that the success of Project W is now down to 18% thanks to Wesker dying in Spencer's Mansion. In the new chapter, it's stated that there were 13 test subjects. 18% of 13 is 2, meaning there were two test subjects still alive. Alex is obviously one of them, the second one is unknown.
** The Raccoon City outbreak had yet to happen, meaning that Birkin would have still been alive at the time this note was written.
* There's also a possibility that he had previously been injected considering William was #8, while Wesker was down at #13. Why doesn't he have red eyes, then?
** You don't get red eyes until you die. Wesker wasn't like that until after he woke up from being stabbed by the Tyrant. After Birkin is shot however, his eyes do turn red. This is an interesting thing to note, because no one else that was infected with the G-virus had their eyes turn red before the G-type either burst from their chest or transformed.
** Similar to Jill, Birkin's body for whatever reason was immune to the virus and he in fact cannot dodge bullets or cheat death or get red eyes because his immune system manages to repress the virus. Perhaps in the event of something seriously catastrophic, the virus laying dormant in his body plus the adrenaline might let him pull some Matrix hax out of his ass. Probably not dodging bullets or stabbing his hand through anyone's heart, but maybe just being about equal to someone who's athletic.
* This could explain Birkin's paranoia. Maybe he's not privy to what he is and only has fleeting dreams and memories of being injected with things so he's just convinced that someone out there is trying to get him and he has no idea why.
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[[WMG:Wesker is still alive.]]
They NeverFoundTheBody after dropping him inside the volcano, and the rockets seemed to have shot just past him, exploding behind him. Not to mention that it seemed like the lava was little more than a hot bath to Wesker, and he's already survived certain, confirmed death once before. If anything, the ending to [=RE5=] is even ''more'' ambiguous as to whether or not he was actually killed.
* Alternatively, Wesker is dead. For some, it's an expected outcome that the guy who has been behind everything pretty much since the beginning is still alive, but it's no big hit to the series for the guy to be gone. The setting of the game has a perfect, built-in reason for more crazy monster hijinks without a mastermind: Just about any psycho with a chip on his shoulder can now search through his own Zombie n' Stuff catalog and buy some horrible monster from the black market. Also, in the Resident Evil verse, some horrible new monster creating pathogen is lurking in every other cave or small, out of the way village.
* Tropers/{{Tofu}}: This one's been {{Jossed}}. WordOfGod said he's dead and gone. (has a little party)
* Alternatively, Wesker ''did'' die at the end of Resident Evil 5, but that was [[CloningGambit just a clone]] of the real Wesker. Why else would he constantly need [=PG67A/W=] to keep himself from mutating? ''[[ActuallyADoombot Because he's a clone of Wesker,]]'' and therefore unstable. The real Wesker is still sitting in his comfortable satellite TV room drinking champagne.

[[WMG:Agent HUNK is one of the missing Wesker children.]]
And in the next game, we will finally get to see his face, and it will look like Wesker's.
* {{Jossed}}. We've already seen his face in one of the [=RE3=] Epilogue files. He's just an ordinary blond guy.
* Except the Wesker children aren't related. They were a bunch of children whose parents were intellectuals of all nationalities. The kids were kidnapped, given the surname Wesker (after an Umbrella researcher), and indoctrinated by Umbrella.
** Oddly enough, when this troper saw HUNK's face, his first thought "HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S WESKER'S BROTHER!".

[[WMG:The 'Complete Global Saturation' meme is going to get RuleThirtyFour'd.]]
Let me ''not'' elaborate on just how it will happen.
** You might be interested in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p52-QBTXZyM this video]].
*** "''COMPLETE. GLOBAL. PENETRATION.''"
*** "''COMPLETE. GLOBAL. MASTURBATION.''"
*** "''COMPLETE. GLOBAL. CASTRATION.''"

[[WMG:The Wesker seen in Resident Evil 5 was a clone]]
Wesker created an experimental clone or heavily modified another individual before the Spencer Mansion incident, in order to fake his death with a body as evidence, and the BSAA as his witness. However, the clone survived, and began to develop its own personality and goals based on Spencer's, to become a god. As [=RE5=] progressed, it began to degenerate as it was torn between its own consciousness and that of Wesker's. Facing off against Chris (who was a major part of Wesker's memories, which may have been implanted into the clone) probably helped with this, as well as the viral overdose. Thus, at the end of Resident Evil 5, the clone's purpose has been accomplished in a roundabout and unwilling fashion, and the broken remnants of the Uroboros project and Tricell Africa can be seized by Wesker.
* So Wesker was his own UnwittingPawn? Holy shit, that gives a whole new meaning to MyDeathIsOnlyTheBeginning.
** [[NightmareFuel *whimper*]]
** That would explain how Wesker was in the cargo hold during the fight with Chris and Sheva, then suddenly shows up from the front of the bomber after it crashes.

[[WMG:Wesker is suicidal in Resident Evil 5.]]
After years of trying to track down Ozwell Spencer, Wesker couldn't handle the revelation that he was being manipulated all along. So he cracked and, after [[ShutUpHannibal killing Spencer]], could no longer muster the will to live. Unwilling to simply stop taking doses of the virus that keeps him alive and superpowered, he decides to commit [[DeathSeeker suicide by proxy]], using the only man in the world he [[FoeYay respects]]: [[TheHero Chris Redfield]]. He starts by faking the death of Chris's old STARS associate and current partner, Jill Valentine. Then he devises a way to control Jill and use her as a puppet against Chris. Finally, he draws Chris into his trap, with Jill as the bait. The one factor he failed to consider was Sheva, Chris's [[ReplacementGoldfish new partner]], who he then tries to kill in order to inspire Chris to finish him. He fails, but still manages to get his grand final showdown with Chris. All that crap about [[MotiveDecay a new world order ushered in by Uroboros]] was just a cover story to disguise his true intentions.
* This would mean that Wesker also counted on Irving pulling a LeeroyJenkins and alerting the BSAA to the dealings in Kijuju in order to lure Chris into this aforementioned trap.

[[WMG:Wesker isn't really Wesker in Resi 5]]
Instead, "Wesker" is simply one of the other Wesker children, brainwashed into believing he's the real deal.
* Wouldn't ''all of them'' be just as dangerous, given their virtually identical upbringings, brainwashings, and superpower infections? Even if it wasn't the initial Wesker (the source materials make it pretty clear that it was in fact Albert), Chris and Sheva still killed one really bad dude.

[[WMG: Wesker is [[{{Asexuality}} asexual.]]]]
I must deflate FoeYay with logic.
* Or he could just not have time for sex. I mean, think about the females he's had around him: His mortal enemy's little sister, Claire, Ada Wong, who probably keeps knives in her vagina or something, Jill Valentine (who openly hated him when not under his control). (And even if he DID want anything of the sort from her while she was brainwashed, I'm pretty sure being reminded of her shoving him out of a window and to the bottom of a cliff killed his boner.) And then there's Excella. Yeah, sure, she's smart and hot and Italian, but when you take away the shitty ass dress, she's still just a common whore; god knows what's been between HER legs.
* Given that he was trying to repopulate the world with superior beings (and that he considered himself a superior being), he probably should've ''made'' time for it. Then again, knowing Wesker, he probably would've genetically engineered a bunch of [[DesignerBabies test tube kids]]. When you've got your arch-nemesis chasing your tail, you really don't have the time to chase any tail yourself.
* {{Jossed}} pretty hard by the sixth game. He apparently had the time to travel to Eastern Europe, knock up a chick there, and leave her six years before the Raccoon City incident.

[[WMG:Chris has been enhanced by the B.S.A.A.]]

Think about it. Chris has obviously taken SEVERAL [[TookALevelInBadass levels in badass]] since we saw him last in Code: Veronica. Now, if you read some of the [[AllThereInTheManual flavor files]] that you unlock as you play through VideoGame/ResidentEvil5, it says that Chris is their top agent, with far more successful missions than any other. The BSAA is funded by the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium, a bunch of companies that are what Umbrella claimed to be: medical researchers and manufacturers. It's not that far fetched to think that they'd have a more stable version of Wesker's SuperSerum. It's also not that far fetched to think that Chris may have taken it after Jill's [[HeroicSacrifice death.]] This enhancement would explain [[MadeOfIron punching a boulder]] and [[SuperStrength moving it]], as well as the fact that he can use a [[BigFreakingGun full sized]] rifle-caliber [[GatlingGood minigun]] when all the other protagonists could only use 3-barrel baby versions. He still can't quite match Wesker's [[FlashStep game]] [[NighInvulnerable breaker]] [[SuperStrength powers]], but he doesn't have to inject fresh doses constantly and his sanity is intact.
* I thought that Chris was a badass before that. Why? His inventory was smaller and he was stronger than Jill.
** Also in previous games, he killed all those zombies and other monstrosities by himself without any last minute additions.
* I personally think that he, while fighting zombies for a decade, got somehow exposed to a small dose of a virus but, like Jill, appeared to be immune and just assimilated the virus. In Jill's case, it resulted in increased agility and speed; in Chris's, it resulted in rapid muscle devlopement and increased strength. Yeah, "Chriiiiiisss!!" turned into a [[Left4Dead "TAAAAAAANK!!"]].

[[WMG:Alex Wesker will be the next antagonist.]]
* Well, think about it, he was told to get an immortality virus for Spencer, but disappeared after making it. He's a ManipulativeBastard, so he'd probably be the next bad guy.
** As of the upcoming ''RE6'', no mention so far. But since it isn't out yet, there's still room for surprises. They wouldn't drop the "[[SequelHook there's another Wesker Child]]" bombshell like that and just up and abandon it, now would they?
** Well, we got a Wesker child... Does that count?

[[WMG:Jill's [[spoiler:genetic testing (thing)]] RE5 was turning her into [[Franchise/MetalGear Solid Snake]].]]
In [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil5 ''Desperate Escape'']], when you play as Jill, she walks the exact same way Raiden does in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', has the exact same hair colour, the same outfit, just as gender confused... now since Raiden was basically wanting to be Snake, Jill is another Raiden, that is another person who did the same video game testing (which is what [[spoiler:Wesker did to her before and during RE5]])... It changed her hair colour to make her more like Raiden. [[spoiler:Wesker]] did all of that because if he had Snake on his team, he wouldn't have lost.
** Next step is becoming a mutant ninja cyborg!

[[WMG: Wesker is the Resident Evil version of the antichrist.]]
Super human abilities, the ability to manipulate people in the snap of a finger, extreme selfishness, his interest in politics, demonic slaves and more importantly the will to take over the world and engulf it in darkness,also that "global saturaton"(engulf the world in darkness) nonsense seemed to be a plain give away. Does that not sound like the anti christ to any of you?

[[WMG: The "man in the suit with no tie" from Sheva's dossier was Leon]]
He worked for the U.S. Government and seemed to have a very personal stake in seeing Umbrella brought down. Based on her given age and the RE timeline, Sheva first met the man in 2000, which was after Leon had been recruited. Sure, it's not much to go on, but why would they bother giving the guy any characterization at all if we weren't meant to recognize him? This does [[FridgeLogic beg the question]] as to why if he served as Sheva's legal guardian, brought her to the U.S. and put her through school, she can't recall his name. But then, that's a good question no matter who the man in suit really was.

[[WMG: Despite Word of God Wesker is still out there.]]
It's canoncially stated in the game that the Wesker Chris & Sheva killed was just a clone. Nobodies perfect not even the creators of a series. They said Wesker's dead yet the so called wesker that died was just a organic drone. Why don't the creators try explaining that. Even though the mercenaries minigame is non-canon it does give you a better perception of the character's abilities. The Wesker in RE4 punch attack can send an enemy flying through the other side of the game but a punch from that Wesker clone in RE5 only causes an enemy to stumble back a little. Even in the RE afterlife movie Wesker seems like more speed and a little strength where he can move like a champ but his hits like a normal human. It's stated that Wesker can life hundreds and even thousands of pound so he shouldn't have a problem with smashing an enemy's skull in with one punch or kick like in RE4. In Resident evil code veroncia(RECV) Weskers hits are painful but not deadly to chris, I don't know if he was a clone or he wasn't trying that hard so I can't say if that was the real Wesker. I believe the Wesker in RE4 was the real one. He out of all the Wesker has real super strength and has only people working for him, even if they are traders. The real Wesker can't afford to be jeapordized in any way and is also more smarter than the clones so he chooses to stay in his own personal HQ instead of where all "the action" is like all the other Weskers. In RE4 he had had 2 agents working for him, in RE5 he doesn't mention not a thing about las plagas or anything about RE4, why? Because he didn't know about it, because he wasn't there the real Wesker was.
** They'll no doubt bring him back if they can't come up with any good ideas for part 6, but, um, how sure are you that you didn't make up that "organic clone" business just now? Because I'm almost positive you made it up.
* Organic means it has flesh, it's not mechanical because it's not a machine and it bleeds and has DNA so it's organic. By the way it was a clone, it was stated in the game.
** Nice dodge, but it's the "clone" part that isn't making any sense. When is that canonically stated at any point in any of the three scenarios? Show the source.
* Dodge?! It was stated that the Wesker we fight was a clone in a flashback in RE5, after Wesker was told he was a clone he killed that man who was trying to become a god. Haven't you played or at least played any attention to RE5
** The Wesker Children were not genetically related. They were kidnapped, brainwashed, and later administered the Progenitor Virus. Read the files.
* Clones, "children" whatever. The point is the Wesker that died in RE5 was just a knock off and the real one is still at large.
* Nobody knows what happened to Alex Wesker. Alex disappeared after an incident in 2005 in the timeline. And Albert was not a knock off or a fake in some way.
* Just like I said it was a fake.
** Bah, cloning or not, the point of it all is that if they want to bring Wesker back, they'll come up with ''something'', [[AssPull whether it's already been foreshadowed or not]].
** Welp, thanks to ''RE6'', we now know that cloning is indeed possible in the RE universe, so Capcom certainly has a plausible excuse to bring him back if they ever wanted to...

[[WMG:Jill will team up with Josh in ''Resident Evil 5''.]]
If you think about what happened to Jill [[spoiler:after being freed from Wesker's control]], this could be her story.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed in the ''Desperate Escape'' DLC]].

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