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* The White Fang/Adam/Hazel, are planning an attack on Haven. They don’t know about the relic or any of the other groups interests, except for Hazel, who has been out of contact with the rest of his own team for a while. Adam only wants to see the academy burn and [[KillEmAll kill as many people]] as possible, especially any surviving members of Blake's team, such as Yang. Any encounter between these two could be disastrous. If Raven has ''any'' semblance of motherly affection left in her, this may interfere with her own plans as she tries to keep her daughter safe, despite her claiming she wouldn’t help her again. Furthermore, if Adam starts pushing things too far, [[OnlySaneMan Hazel himself]], who already seems to have misgivings over working with him, may turn on him himself, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness claiming he’s more trouble than he’s worth]].

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* The White Fang/Adam/Hazel, are planning an attack on Haven. They don’t know about the relic or any of the other groups interests, except for Hazel, who has been out of contact with the rest of his own team for a while. Adam only wants to see the academy burn and [[KillEmAll kill as many people]] people as possible, especially any surviving members of Blake's team, such as Yang. Any encounter between these two could be disastrous. If Raven has ''any'' semblance of motherly affection left in her, this may interfere with her own plans as she tries to keep her daughter safe, despite her claiming she wouldn’t help her again. Furthermore, if Adam starts pushing things too far, [[OnlySaneMan Hazel himself]], who already seems to have misgivings over working with him, may turn on him himself, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness claiming he’s more trouble than he’s worth]].
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In the Volume 9 teaser, Ruby is shown holding one of Penny's Floating Arrays from the previous Volume. If Ruby would discard Cresent Rose, (either due to being destroyed or deliberately left it behind as proof of her CharacterDevelopment), there is chance that Ruby would forge a new weapon (most likely a sword) by modifying the Floating Array she picked up for her own personal use. That new weapon represents three things: 1) Ruby's resolve of "moving forward" at the end of Volume 9, 2) Ruby's own answer to Cinder's Midnight, and 3) a TragicKeepsake for the late Penny.

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In the Volume 9 teaser, Ruby is shown holding one of Penny's Floating Arrays swords from the previous Volume. If Ruby would discard discards Cresent Rose, (either due to being destroyed or deliberately left it behind as proof of her CharacterDevelopment), there is chance that Ruby she would forge a new weapon (most likely a sword) by modifying the Floating Array she picked up it for her own personal use. That new weapon represents three things: 1) Ruby's resolve of "moving forward" at the end of Volume 9, 2) Ruby's own answer to Cinder's Midnight, and 3) a TragicKeepsake for the late Penny.
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In the Volume 9 teaser, Ruby is shown holding one of Penny's Floating Arrays from the previous Volume. If Ruby would discard Cresent Rose (either due to being destroyed after a climatic fight or deliberately left it as a WeaponTombstone for the late Penny),there is chance that Ruby would forge a new weapon (like a sword) by modifying the Floating Array she picked up for her own use. That new weapon represents three things: 1) Ruby's resolve of "moving forward" at the end of Volume 9, 2) Ruby's own answer to Cinder's Midnight, and 3) a TragicKeepsake for Penny.

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[[WMG:Should Ruby discard Crescent Rose, she would forge a would new weapon as its permanent replacement.]]
In the Volume 9 teaser, Ruby is shown holding one of Penny's Floating Arrays from the previous Volume. If Ruby would discard Cresent Rose Rose, (either due to being destroyed after a climatic fight or deliberately left it behind as a WeaponTombstone for the late Penny),there proof of her CharacterDevelopment), there is chance that Ruby would forge a new weapon (like (most likely a sword) by modifying the Floating Array she picked up for her own personal use. That new weapon represents three things: 1) Ruby's resolve of "moving forward" at the end of Volume 9, 2) Ruby's own answer to Cinder's Midnight, and 3) a TragicKeepsake for the late Penny.
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In the Volume 9 teaser, Ruby is shown holding one of Penny's Floating Arrays from the previous Volume. If Ruby would discard Cresent Rose (either due to being destroyed after a climatic fight or deliberately left it as a WeaponTombstone for the late Penny),there is chance that Ruby would forge a new weapon (like a sword) by modifying the Floating Array she picked up for her own use. That new weapon represents three things: 1) Ruby's resolve of "moving forward" at the end of Volume 9, 2) Ruby's own answer to Cinder's Midnight, and 3) a TragicKeepsake for Penny.
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There some speculations that Neo is based on ''Literature/TheLittleMatchGirl'' and the events of ''Roman Holiday'' strongly implies this is the case: the titular fairy tale character is too scared to go back home because of [[AbusiveParents her abusive father]] and finds solace in the flames of the matches. After seeing a vision of her grandmother from one of the matches she lit up, she spent all of her matches to sustain that vision and her soul is taken to heaven by her grandmother after dying from from extreme cold. Neo's obesession of getting back at Ruby for "killing" Torchwick is basically the web series' equivalent of "spending all of her matches to keep that vision alive" and if she were to die, it should be at the hands of Weiss instead of Ruby, since the Schnee is heavily associated with the cold.To make her death even more tragic (at least as tragic as [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Maul's]]), she would have a VillainousBreakdown first after finding out what ''really'' happened to Torchwick before Weiss deals the fatal blow on her to save Ruby, and then make peace with the Silver-Eyed Huntress as she dies.
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At the start of the series, Ruby's motivation for becoming a huntress is to follow Summer's footsteps. Now that [[DespairEventHorizon Ruby's morale and sanity have hit rock bottom]] after the events of the previous two volumes (with both Salem and Cinder ''mocking'' her to boot), combined with the possibility of a nuclear meltdown and eventual pep talk with the spirit of Summer, [[KillTheCutie an assasination attempt by Salem]] through [[DeathByIrony a Hound containing Summer's preserved body]], and [[TheGlovesComeOff a final confrontation with Neo]], there is a significant chance that Ruby would end up sacrificing Crescent Rose to win a climatic fight near the end of this Volume and later recieve a new weapon similar to it (bonus points if that new weapon is a LivingWeapon), which is symbolically synonymous to [[FiveStagesOfGrief parting ways with her suppressed feelings]] as well as [[BeYourself finally starting make a name for herself]] [[CentralTheme and moving forward]] as Oum originally envisioned.

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At the start of the series, Ruby's motivation for becoming a huntress is to follow Summer's footsteps. Now that [[DespairEventHorizon Ruby's morale and sanity have hit rock bottom]] after the events of the previous two volumes (with both Salem and Cinder ''mocking'' her to boot), combined with the possibility of a nuclear meltdown and eventual pep talk with the spirit of Summer, [[KillTheCutie an assasination attempt by Salem]] through [[DeathByIrony a Hound containing Summer's preserved body]], and [[TheGlovesComeOff a final confrontation with Neo]], there is a significant chance that Ruby would end up sacrificing Crescent Rose to win a climatic fight near the end of this Volume volume and later recieve a new weapon similar to it (bonus points if that new weapon is a LivingWeapon), which is symbolically synonymous to [[FiveStagesOfGrief parting ways with her suppressed feelings]] as well as [[BeYourself finally starting make a name for herself]] [[CentralTheme and moving forward]] as Oum originally envisioned.
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At the start of the series, Ruby's motivation for becoming a huntress is to follow Summer's footsteps. Now that [[DespairEventHorizon Ruby's morale and sanity have hit rock bottom]] after the events of the previous two volumes (with both Salem and Cinder ''mocking'' her to boot), combined with the possibility of a nuclear meltdown and eventual pep talk with the spirit of Summer, [[KillTheCutie an assasination attempt by Salem]] through [[DeathByIrony a Hound containing Summer's preserved body]], and [[TheGlovesComeOff a final confrontation with Neo]], there is a significant chance that Ruby would end up sacrificing Crescent Rose to win a climatic fight near the end of this Volume and later recieve a new weapon similar to it (bonus point if that new weapon is a LivingWeapon), which is symbolically synonymous to [[FiveStagesOfGrief parting ways with her suppressed feelings]] as well as [[BeYourself finally starting make a name for herself]] [[CentralTheme and moving forward]] as Oum originally envisioned.

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At the start of the series, Ruby's motivation for becoming a huntress is to follow Summer's footsteps. Now that [[DespairEventHorizon Ruby's morale and sanity have hit rock bottom]] after the events of the previous two volumes (with both Salem and Cinder ''mocking'' her to boot), combined with the possibility of a nuclear meltdown and eventual pep talk with the spirit of Summer, [[KillTheCutie an assasination attempt by Salem]] through [[DeathByIrony a Hound containing Summer's preserved body]], and [[TheGlovesComeOff a final confrontation with Neo]], there is a significant chance that Ruby would end up sacrificing Crescent Rose to win a climatic fight near the end of this Volume and later recieve a new weapon similar to it (bonus point points if that new weapon is a LivingWeapon), which is symbolically synonymous to [[FiveStagesOfGrief parting ways with her suppressed feelings]] as well as [[BeYourself finally starting make a name for herself]] [[CentralTheme and moving forward]] as Oum originally envisioned.
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At the start of the series, Ruby's motivation for becoming a huntress is to follow Summer's footsteps. Now that [[DespairEventHorizon Ruby's morale and sanity have hit rock bottom]] after the events of the previous two volumes (with both Salem and Cinder ''mocking'' her to boot), combined with the possibility of a nuclear meltdown and eventual pep talk with the spirit of Summer, [[KillTheCutie an assasination attempt by Salem]] through [[DeathByIron a Hound containing Summer's preserved body]], and [[TheGlovesComeOff a final confrontation with Neo]], there is a significant chance that Ruby would end up sacrificing Crescent Rose to win a climatic fight near the end of this Volume and later recieve a new weapon similar to it (bonus point if that new weapon is a LivingWeapon), which is symbolically synonymous to [[FiveStagesOfGrief parting ways with her suppressed feelings]] as well as [[BeYourself finally starting make a name for herself]] [[CentralTheme and moving forward]] as Oum envisioned.

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At the start of the series, Ruby's motivation for becoming a huntress is to follow Summer's footsteps. Now that [[DespairEventHorizon Ruby's morale and sanity have hit rock bottom]] after the events of the previous two volumes (with both Salem and Cinder ''mocking'' her to boot), combined with the possibility of a nuclear meltdown and eventual pep talk with the spirit of Summer, [[KillTheCutie an assasination attempt by Salem]] through [[DeathByIron [[DeathByIrony a Hound containing Summer's preserved body]], and [[TheGlovesComeOff a final confrontation with Neo]], there is a significant chance that Ruby would end up sacrificing Crescent Rose to win a climatic fight near the end of this Volume and later recieve a new weapon similar to it (bonus point if that new weapon is a LivingWeapon), which is symbolically synonymous to [[FiveStagesOfGrief parting ways with her suppressed feelings]] as well as [[BeYourself finally starting make a name for herself]] [[CentralTheme and moving forward]] as Oum originally envisioned.
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At the start of the series, Ruby's motivation for becoming a huntress is to follow Summer's footsteps. Now that Ruby's morale and sanity have hit rock bottom after the events of the previous two volumes (with both Salem and Cinder mocking her to boot), combined with the possibility of a nuclear meltdown and eventual pep talk with the spirit of Summer, final confrontation against Neo, and an assasination attempt by Salem through a Hound containing Summer's preserved body, there is a significant chance that Ruby would end up sacrificing it to win a climatic fight near the end of this Volume, which is symbolically synonymous to [[FiveStagesOfGrief parting ways with her suppressed feelings]] as well as [[BeYourself finally starting make a name for herself]] [[CentralTheme and moving forward]] as Oum envisioned.

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[[WMG: Crescent Rose will be destroyed beyond repair and Ruby would recieve a new weapon at the end of Volume 9.]]
At the start of the series, Ruby's motivation for becoming a huntress is to follow Summer's footsteps. Now that [[DespairEventHorizon Ruby's morale and sanity have hit rock bottom bottom]] after the events of the previous two volumes (with both Salem and Cinder mocking ''mocking'' her to boot), combined with the possibility of a nuclear meltdown and eventual pep talk with the spirit of Summer, final confrontation against Neo, and [[KillTheCutie an assasination attempt by Salem Salem]] through [[DeathByIron a Hound containing Summer's preserved body, body]], and [[TheGlovesComeOff a final confrontation with Neo]], there is a significant chance that Ruby would end up sacrificing it Crescent Rose to win a climatic fight near the end of this Volume, Volume and later recieve a new weapon similar to it (bonus point if that new weapon is a LivingWeapon), which is symbolically synonymous to [[FiveStagesOfGrief parting ways with her suppressed feelings]] as well as [[BeYourself finally starting make a name for herself]] [[CentralTheme and moving forward]] as Oum envisioned.
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At the start of the series, Ruby's motivation for becoming a huntress is to follow Summer's footsteps. Now that Ruby's morale and sanity have hit rock bottom after the events of the previous two volumes (with both Salem and Cinder mocking her to boot), combined with the possibility of a nuclear meltdown and eventual pep talk with the spirit of Summer, final confrontation against Neo, and an assasination attempt by Salem through a Hound containing Summer's preserved body, there is a significant chance that Ruby would end up sacrificing it to win a climatic fight near the end of this Volume, which is symbolically synonymous to [[FiveStagesOfGrief parting ways with her suppressed feelings]] as well as [[BeYourself finally starting make a name for herself]] [[CentralTheme and moving forward]] as Oum envisioned.
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Salem would send another Hound (which contains Summer's preserved body) in a GenreSavvy attempt to assassinate an emotionally vulnerable (and unstable) Ruby. This is deliberate on Salem's part, not only to [[BreakTheCutie break Ruby further]], but also wanting to invoke DeathByIrony on her. Ruby's mind would further regress into a powerless, helpless, and scared little girl [[AllAccordingToPlan just as Salem planned]] (and Cinder's words to Ruby near the end of the previous volume [[VillainHasAPoint does make sense]] for good measure), but the real Summer (as a spirit) would snap Ruby out of it, ultimately resulting with her fighting back, and then violently killing the Hound with [[NoholdsBarredBeatdown nothing but her bare hands]]. As Ruby broke down, weeping for Summer afterwards, her friends (who are shocked to see the Hound already killed by Ruby) would run into Ruby before comforting her.

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Salem would send another Hound (which contains Summer's preserved body) in a GenreSavvy attempt to assassinate an emotionally vulnerable (and unstable) Ruby. This is deliberate on Salem's part, not only to [[BreakTheCutie break Ruby further]], but also wanting to invoke DeathByIrony on her. Ruby's mind would further regress into a powerless, helpless, and scared little girl [[AllAccordingToPlan just as Salem planned]] (and Cinder's words to Ruby near the end of the previous volume [[VillainHasAPoint does make sense]] for good measure), but the real Summer (as a spirit) would snap Ruby out of it, ultimately resulting with her fighting back, and then violently killing the Hound with [[NoholdsBarredBeatdown nothing but her bare hands]]. As Ruby broke down, weeping for Summer afterwards, her Her friends (who just arrived) are shocked to see at the Hound already killed by Ruby) would run into Ruby before aftermath of the fight and wasted no time comforting her.
her over it.
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Salem would send another Hound (which contains Summer's preserved body) in a GenreSavvy attempt to assassinate an emotionally vulnerable (and unstable) Ruby. This is deliberate on Salem's part, not only to [[BreakTheCutie break Ruby further]], but also wanting to invoke DeathByIrony on her. Ruby's mind would further regress into a powerless, helpless, and scared little girl [[AllAccordingToPlan just as Salem planned]] (and Cinder's words to Ruby near the end of the previous volume [[VillainHasAPoint does make sense]] for good measure), but the real Summer (as a spirit) would snap Ruby out of it, ultimately resulting with her fighting back, and then violently killing the Hound with [[NoholdsBarredBeatdown nothing but her bare hands]]. As Ruby broke down, weeping for Summer afterwards, her friends finally show up and comfort her.

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Salem would send another Hound (which contains Summer's preserved body) in a GenreSavvy attempt to assassinate an emotionally vulnerable (and unstable) Ruby. This is deliberate on Salem's part, not only to [[BreakTheCutie break Ruby further]], but also wanting to invoke DeathByIrony on her. Ruby's mind would further regress into a powerless, helpless, and scared little girl [[AllAccordingToPlan just as Salem planned]] (and Cinder's words to Ruby near the end of the previous volume [[VillainHasAPoint does make sense]] for good measure), but the real Summer (as a spirit) would snap Ruby out of it, ultimately resulting with her fighting back, and then violently killing the Hound with [[NoholdsBarredBeatdown nothing but her bare hands]]. As Ruby broke down, weeping for Summer afterwards, her friends finally show up and comfort (who are shocked to see the Hound already killed by Ruby) would run into Ruby before comforting her.
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Salem would send another Hound (which contains Summer's preserved body) in a GenreSavvy attempt to assassinate an emotionally vulnerable (and unstable) Ruby. This is deliberate on Salem's part, not only to [[BreakTheCutie break Ruby further]], but also wanting to invoke DeathByIrony on her. Ruby's mind would further regress into a powerless, helpless, and scared little girl [[AllAccordingToPlan just as Salem planned]] (and Cinder's words to Ruby near the end of the previous volume [[VillainHasAPoint does make sense]] for good measure), but the real Summer (as a spirit) would snap Ruby out of it, ultimately resulting with her fighting back, and then violently killing the Hound with [[NoholdsBarredBeatdown nothing but her bare hands]]. As Ruby broke down, weeping for Summer afterwards, her friends finally show up and comfort her.
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[[WMG: Assuming the mysterious island will be based on [[Literature/AlicesAdventuresInWonderland Wonderland]], it will take inspiration from VideoGame/AmericanMcgeesAlice.]]
In that game, Wonderland has been corrupted by Alice's mental health issues, and what she fights in Wonderland reflects the real world, ultimately meaning she has to fix Wonderland to fix herself. In Volume 9, Ruby will have to fix this mysterious land and confront her own problems in the process.
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So ultimately, we have Cinder's group who want to pull off [[ThePlan 3 objectives]]; stealing the relic, killing Qrow and Cinder's personal vendetta against Ruby which might screw them over. It’s likely that second objective is just part of Raven's gambit to keep them busy so she can screw them over on their first objective and Cinder is [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality almost certainly going to come into conflict with Ruby]] during all of this as well. All of this hinges on the attack on Qrow's group being successful, but Qrow and Ozpin [[GenreSavvy are already on their guard]] and suspect something is up, and the White Fang attack, whilst initially used to cover up the real objective, will itself be thwarted by the Menagerie Faunus counter attack, allowing the main characters to not have to split their focus on trying to save Haven OR the relic, and instead safeguard the relic itself. At some point in all the confusion Raven [[TheReveal pulls out her trump card]] and reveals herself to be the real Spring Maiden, snatches the relic and tries to [[ThinkingUpPortals portal]] her way out, only for Cinder to engage her in a full on Maiden vs Maiden battle. Enter [[TheHero Ruby]], wanting to both protect the relic and get her own revenge on [[HeroKiller Cinder]] for Pyrrha's murder, and [[HistoryRepeats seeing the battle erupting around her]], with possibly her sister or Blake in danger from Adam's vengeance once again, begins suffering flashbacks to the fall of Beacon and inadvertently [[EleventhHourSuperpower activates her Silver-Eyed powers]] again. She [[MeleeATrois engages the Maidens]] in their battle, being a significant threat to both.

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So ultimately, we have Cinder's group who want to pull off [[ThePlan 3 objectives]]; stealing the relic, killing Qrow and Cinder's personal vendetta against Ruby which might screw them over. It’s likely that second objective is just part of Raven's gambit to keep them busy so she can screw them over on their first objective and Cinder is [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality almost certainly going to come into conflict with Ruby]] during all of this as well. All of this hinges on the attack on Qrow's group being successful, but Qrow and Ozpin [[GenreSavvy are already on their guard]] and suspect something is up, and the White Fang attack, whilst initially used to cover up the real objective, will itself be thwarted by the Menagerie Faunus counter attack, allowing the main characters to not have to split their focus on trying to save Haven OR the relic, and instead safeguard the relic itself. At some point in all the confusion Raven [[TheReveal pulls out her trump card]] and reveals herself to be the real Spring Maiden, snatches the relic and tries to [[ThinkingUpPortals portal]] her way out, only for Cinder to engage her in a full on Maiden vs Maiden battle. Enter [[TheHero Ruby]], wanting to both protect the relic and get her own revenge on [[HeroKiller Cinder]] for Pyrrha's murder, and [[HistoryRepeats seeing the battle erupting around her]], her, with possibly her sister or Blake in danger from Adam's vengeance once again, begins suffering flashbacks to the fall of Beacon and inadvertently [[EleventhHourSuperpower activates her Silver-Eyed powers]] again. She [[MeleeATrois engages the Maidens]] in their battle, being a significant threat to both.
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* Jossed: [[spoiler:It's a DownerEnding with few rays of hope.]]

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* Partially confirmed, partially Jossed: [[spoiler:It's a DownerEnding with few rays RayOfHopeEnding: the villains mostly win, the two cities are destroyed, but the people are saved and evacuated to Vacuo, united in their refugee status. While the villains think several of hope.the main characters are dead, the audience knows that this mostly untrue.]]

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* Vacuo seems to be located in a desert region (possibly Mistral) and may combine Asia and Africa
* Confirmed in World of Remnant; Vale's reminiscent of mainland Europe, with Mistral clearly the expy for East Asia, Vacuo as the Middle East and Northern Africa, Atlas as America with a hint of Germany and Scandinavia, and Menagerie as the counterpart to Australia. The Fridge/RWBY page has more information on this.

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* Confirmed. Anima is influenced by Asia, ranging from India to Japan. Vacuo seems to be located in a is influenced by desert region (possibly Mistral) countries and may combine Asia and Africa
* Confirmed in World of Remnant; Vale's reminiscent of mainland Europe, with Mistral clearly the expy for East Asia, Vacuo as the Middle East and Northern Africa, Atlas as America with a hint of Germany and Scandinavia, and
cultures. Menagerie as the counterpart to Australia. The Fridge/RWBY page has more information is based on this.
Australia.



* Jossed. Monty was asked if there's a reason behind the dragon-shaped continents. Monty denied this and stated the origin of the geography is as random as a dirty napkin. [[http://rwby.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rwby_map3.jpg Literally.]]

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* Jossed. Monty was asked if there's a reason behind the dragon-shaped continents. Monty denied this and stated the origin of the geography is as random as a dirty napkin. [[http://rwby.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rwby_map3.jpg Literally.]]
]] However, there is an in-universe fairy tale about the two dragon-shaped continents being sleeping divine brothers.



* Confirmed in the [=WoR=] episode on the Great War. After a Grimm attack on a lucrative shipping line, Mantle decreed that art and self-expression needed to be suppressed in order to prevent Grimm attacks. Mistral, with whom Atlas were trading with, agreed and enforced the same ban in spite of its rich artistic culture. Vale had beef with this and other things the two allies had been doing (slave labour and so on), but it didn't spark the war. What ''did'' was the colonisation of Sanus's eastern shores by Mistral; Vale had already settled the area, a riot between the two bands of settlers erupted and it escalated into war, with Vacuo siding with Vale because they feared being conquered after Vale fell.

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* Confirmed in the [=WoR=] World of Remnant episode on about the Great War. After a Grimm attack on a lucrative shipping line, A mysterious incident in Mantle decreed that leads to the king suppressing art and self-expression needed to be suppressed in order to prevent Grimm attacks. fend off the Grimm. They then insist their trading partner, Mistral, with whom Atlas were trading with, agreed and enforced does the same ban in spite of its rich artistic culture. Vale had beef with thing; the Mistralian emperor only inflicts this on his outer territories and other things the two allies had been doing (slave labour and so on), but it otherwise ignores it. It didn't quite spark the war. What ''did'' was active phase of the colonisation Great War itself, but did form part of Sanus's eastern shores by Mistral; Vale had already settled the area, a riot between century-long build-up that helped the two bands of settlers erupted and it escalated into war, with Vacuo siding with Vale because they feared being conquered after Vale fell.
war begin.



* Salem and her underlings don't seem very concerned about Ruby having silver eyes. Hazel even says that they've "dealt with" silver-eyed warriors before, in a very dismissive tone.
* Tyrian did try to blind her for Cinder's sake. However, Ruby managed to slice off half his tail, thanks to a last-minute save from Qrow.

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* Jossed. As various future volumes confirm, Salem and her underlings don't seem very concerned about Ruby having silver eyes. Hazel even says that they've "dealt with" silver-eyed warriors before, in a very dismissive tone.
* Tyrian did try
used to blind her for Cinder's sake. hunt down Silver-Eyed Warriors to kill them. However, she wants Ruby managed to slice off half his tail, thanks to a last-minute save from Qrow.
alive for reasons that only become clear in Volume 8. Cinder wants Ruby dead, and doesn't know why Salem wants her alive.



* Seems unlikely. Blake is heading straight for Menagerie by boat.
* However, given that Adam is on his way to kill her, it's likely that Blake and Sun will flee Menagerie and decide to head to Haven, where Sun can guarantee some safety.

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* Seems unlikely. Blake is heading straight for Menagerie by boat.
* However, given
Jossed. Team RNJR and Blake's storylines are happening in different parts of the world. Volume 5 confirms that Adam is on his way to kill her, it's likely that Blake and Sun will flee Menagerie and decide to head to Haven, where Sun can guarantee some safety.
they're not even happening in the same timeline.



* "A Much Needed Talk", which reflects on the events and supernatural stuff from before, serves as a hybrid between this and a standard exposition piece, leaning hard towards the latter.
* "Kuroyuri" contains two lengthy flashback sequences, which depict how Nora and Ren met in the face of their hometown getting destroyed.

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* "A Much Needed Talk", which reflects on the events and supernatural stuff from before, serves as Jossed. There is a hybrid between this and a standard exposition piece, leaning hard towards the latter.
* "Kuroyuri" contains two lengthy
flashback sequences, which depict episode in Volume 4, but it details how Nora Ren became an orphan and Ren how he met in the face of their hometown getting destroyed.
Nora.



* Considering how central the number four is to the series (four lead characters, four-man teams, four seasons, four kingdoms, etc.), Volume 4 will be the [[GrandFinale biggest and last of the series]].
** Why would they do that when they’ve written Volume 5 already?
** Especially considering that Monty's plot overview ''alone'' is said to have about 20 volumes of story in it?

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* Considering how central the number four is to the series (four lead characters, four-man teams, four seasons, four kingdoms, etc.), Volume 4 will be the [[GrandFinale biggest and last of the series]].
** Why would they do that when they’ve written * Jossed. During the Volume 5 already?
** Especially considering
3 livestream, the writers confirmed that Monty's plot overview ''alone'' is said to have about Monty had 20 volumes worth of story in it?
notes (plus notes for further shows after this one has ended), but how long the show really ends up being will depend entirely on how they structure each volume, and how much content goes into each one. Volume 4 was not the last volume of the show.



* Following the trend of Film/TheWizardOfOz characters being the powerful old guard of the series, there is a distinct lack of candidates for the Cowardly Lion's position. While Taiyang Xiao Long would tangentially fit (blonde hair, teammate of Qrow, another old guard), he doesn't have the right motifs (his name refers to dragons, not lions), and a Cowardly Lion in remnant would probably be a Faunus anyways. As such it's highly likely that we are going to be introduced to a powerful but passive lion Faunus in vol. 4, possibly as the headmaster of either Haven or Shade.
** Confirmed in the finale; Haven's headmaster is Prof. Leo Lionheart, and he is [[spoiler:Salem's informant that Watts meets with]].

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* Following the trend of Film/TheWizardOfOz characters being the powerful old guard of the series, there is a distinct lack of candidates for the Cowardly Lion's position. While Taiyang Xiao Long would tangentially fit (blonde hair, teammate of Qrow, another old guard), he doesn't have the right motifs (his name refers to dragons, not lions), and a Cowardly Lion in remnant would probably be a Faunus anyways. As such it's highly likely that we are going to be introduced to a powerful but passive lion Faunus in vol. 4, possibly as the headmaster of either Haven or Shade.
** Confirmed in the finale; * Confirmed. The Volume 4 finale introduces Haven's headmaster is Prof. as Professor Leo Lionheart, and Lionheart. Earlier in the volume, Leo had already been confirmed to be one of Ozpin's closest friends. [[spoiler:The finale reveals he is [[spoiler:Salem's informant TheMole for Salem, and Volume 5 reveals that Watts meets with]].
he's a Lion Faunus and is in Salem's service because he's a DirtyCoward.]]




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* Confirmed. Volume 7 confirms he's trapped by both parents and therefore forced to conform to Jacques' desires. As soon as he's out from under Jacques' thumb in Volume 8, he becomes an extremely useful ally of the heroes.



* Jossed. It's the symbol of the bandit tribe which Raven leads. However, given Ren and Nora's recognition of the symbol, the implication is still there.
** Jossed on both counts. It is revealed to be the trakcs of the Nuckelavee Grimm.

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* Jossed. It's the symbol of the bandit tribe which Raven leads. However, given Ren and Nora's recognition of the symbol, the implication is still there.
** Jossed on both counts. It is revealed to be the trakcs of
a hoofprint left behind by the Nuckelavee Grimm.



* At the very least her tribe is responsible for it and Nora is aware of it though wasn't involved. She seems to be from a different region than Ren going by their over all attire and naming so likely not present when he encountered Raven and co.
** {{Jossed}}. [[spoiler:They were killed in a Grimm attack.]]

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* At the very least her tribe is responsible for it and Nora is aware of it though wasn't involved. She seems to be from a different region than Ren going by their over all attire and naming so likely not present when he encountered Raven and co.
** * {{Jossed}}. [[spoiler:They were killed in a Grimm attack.]]



* While Raven is aware of Salem. she seems to be keeping out of the fight against her. However, at some point Salem will get angry with the bandit tribe and kill them all. As for the motive, one possibility is that she'll save Ruby for some reason and, because no one save the villains knows that Ruby is Salem's primary target, will incur Salem's wrath. Another possibility is that Raven will reveal Salem's existence to Ruby. Salem's plans rely on the public being unaware of her existence, which Ozpin and his group preserve to prevent a panic, and if someone's going around doing otherwise than there's a risk that humanity would unite. As a bonus, as Raven gets more screen-time, she'll be fleshed out more and become more sympathetic.
** That or this will be portrayed as KickTheSonOfABitch or BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork.
** Partially {{Jossed}}: [[spoiler: Qrow told Ruby and the others about Salem.]]

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* While Raven is aware of Salem. she seems to be keeping out of the fight against her. However, at some point Salem will get angry with the bandit tribe and kill them all. As for the motive, one possibility is that she'll save Ruby for some reason and, because no one save the villains knows that Ruby is Salem's primary target, will incur Salem's wrath. Another possibility is that Raven will reveal Salem's existence to Ruby. Salem's plans rely on the public being unaware of her existence, which Ozpin and his group preserve to prevent a panic, and if someone's going around doing otherwise than there's a risk that humanity would unite. As a bonus, as Raven gets more screen-time, she'll be fleshed out more and become more sympathetic.
** That or this will be portrayed as KickTheSonOfABitch or BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork.
** Partially {{Jossed}}: [[spoiler:
* Jossed. Qrow told Ruby and the others tells Team RNJR about Salem.Salem. While Salem does threaten the tribe to obtain something Raven has that she wants, Raven scatters the tribe and temporarily joins Cinder's team just long enough to steal the Relic from Cinder. [[spoiler:However, she hands the Relic to Yang after Yang confronts her about her cowardice.]]



* Additionally, if the behaviour of Ilia is anything to go by, she was being used to bait and lure Blake (and Sun) away from her house. With the two huntsman out of the way and waylaid, it would be child's play for Adam to slaughter both Ghira AND Kali.

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* Additionally, if Jossed. An assassination attempt on Ghira's life in Volume 5 rallies Menagerie against the behaviour of Ilia is anything to go by, she was being used to bait White Fang, and lure Blake (and Sun) away from her house. With by the two huntsman out first episode of Volume 6, the way and waylaid, it would be child's play for Adam to slaughter both organisation is no more. Ghira AND Kali.
decides to start a brand new organisation in Volume 6.



* Confirmed. Tyrian met with Ruby, only for Qrow to intervene and break his Aura, followed with Ruby slicing off half of Tyrian's tail. However, Qrow's Aura was also down, and he has been poisoned pretty badly. To make his situation ''even worse'', Ruby and Jaune are unwittingly leading a delusional Qrow into bandit territory. Weiss has managed, after significant abuse from her father ''and'' her brother, managed to get her summoning under control and seems ready to escape imprisonment with Klein's aid. And after chasing down a White Fang spy, Sun got badly injured, and the last thing we see of this is Blake desperately calling for help.

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* Confirmed. Episode 6 was called "Tipping Point" and focussed on Tyrian met with Ruby, only for catching up to Team RNJR, forcing Qrow to intervene to save them, and break his Aura, followed with Ruby slicing off half of Tyrian's tail. However, Qrow's Aura was also down, and he has been poisoned pretty badly. To make his situation ''even worse'', Ruby and Jaune are unwittingly leading a delusional Qrow into bandit territory. Weiss has managed, after significant abuse from lost control of her Semblance in public, almost getting someone killed, resulting in her father ''and'' her brother, managed to get her summoning under control disinheriting and seems ready to escape imprisonment with Klein's aid. And after chasing down a White Fang spy, Sun got badly injured, and imprisoning her. The rest of the last thing we see of volume ends up having much higher stakes from this is Blake desperately calling for help.
point on.



* Whilst it didn't happen this season, it is revealed that [[spoiler:Adam Taurus intends to lead an attack on Haven Academy after killing Sienna Khan]], with implied assistance from [[spoiler:Dr. Watts and Professor Lionheart, the headmaster of Haven]]. Therefore, Haven's invasion likely will happen - but at the end of Volume Five.

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* Whilst it didn't happen this season, it is revealed that [[spoiler:Adam Taurus intends to lead an attack on Haven Academy after killing Sienna Khan]], with implied assistance from [[spoiler:Dr. Watts and Professor Lionheart, the headmaster of Haven]]. Therefore, Haven's invasion likely will happen - but at the end of Volume Five.



* And hopefully they'll squeeze in Weiss leaving Atlas and Yang and Taiyang setting off after Ruby.
** Mostly confirmed. The exceptions are that Taiyang remains behind to teach at Signal Academy, and that Blake doesn't fight Adam - instead, the last we see of her, she vows to stop Adam [[spoiler:from killing Sienna Khan and leading the Fang to destroy Haven Academy]], along with her parents and Sun Wukong.

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* And hopefully they'll squeeze in Weiss leaving Atlas and Yang and Taiyang setting off after Ruby.
** * Mostly confirmed. The exceptions are that Confirmed. Taiyang remains behind to teach at Signal Academy, never leaves Patch and that Blake doesn't fight confront Adam - instead, until the last we see end of her, she vows to stop Adam [[spoiler:from killing Sienna Khan and leading Volume 5. However, the Fang to destroy Haven Academy]], along with her parents and Sun Wukong.rest happens.



* Ozpin is urging Oscar to go there but even if he gives in, he still has to go through places teeming with Grimm to make it. Oscar doesn't seem to have any combat training (unless he's been practicing with his farm tools) nor can he be using the powers Ozpin had (yet). RNJR is already traveling through Mistral, so there's a chance that they'll stumble upon the farm and Ozpin will make an even bigger push to get him going.
** Alternatively, they meet ''at'' Haven Academy.


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* Ozpin is urging Oscar to go there but even if he gives in, he still has to go through places teeming with Grimm to make it. Oscar doesn't seem to have any combat training (unless he's been practicing with his farm tools) nor can he be using the powers Ozpin had (yet). RNJR is already traveling through Mistral, so there's a chance that they'll stumble upon the farm and Ozpin will make an even bigger push to get him going.
** Alternatively, * Oscar travels to Mistral by train and encounters nothing untoward save for bumping into Hazel, who helps him get a train ticket. He meets Team RNJR at the beginning of Volume 5, and they meet ''at'' do end up travelling to Haven Academy.

Academy together later in Volume 5, after Weiss and Yang have also joined them.



[[WMG: The Vale King's Weapons were ...]]
... Two of the four relics. In the WOR episode "The Great War", the King of Vale led the deciding battle personally against Mantle and Mistral's armies, in defense of Vacuo's dust mines. The sword he wielded was orange, indicating that it was given to him by Vacuo's leader. The scepter he wields alongside it, however, is his own. His efforts lay waste to both armies, in what was the deadliest battle of the whole War. At it's end, the other three leaders were all willing to bow down to his rule.

However, he decided to instead found the Huntsman Academies. As we now ''know'' thanks to Qrow in "A Much Needed Talk", Ozpin's predecessor was responsible for building them to house the relics. It's likely that he had possession of at least two of them. The sword, in this case, was likely the relic of destruction; after all, ''how else'' could the King have killed as many troops as he had? And as for his scepter, it may be the relic of choice; his actions after the battle were essentially giving the other kingdoms a choice to work together, fight the Grimm, and keep humanity united.

[[WMG: Ozpin's previous incarnation was the last King of Vale.]]
Ozpin tells Oscar that he founded the academies personally. With the events of the Great War, we learn that it was the last King of Vale who actually founded them. Given that the FusionDance of Ozpin and Oscar was preceded with one between Ozpin and someone else ... then that someone else ''must'' have been the King of Vale.



The show wants the viewer to believe that all stories are taking place six months after the fall of Beacon, but actually each of the plotlines the show follows(except for Salem's and possibly Oscar's) all take places before what is currently happening with Ruby, justifying a reunion of them all during the finale in Haven.
* Weiss' story happened about 2 or 3 months before Ruby's.
** Oobleck and Port mention that Goodwitch was getting Beacon back in order, while Salem tells the orb grimm to reinforce the school in the previous episode.
* Whatever the case may be, it's likely that any chronology issues will be resolved in Volume 5.
** Indeed. The Menagerie storyline, as of "Lighting the Fire", is taking place a month before those of team RNJR, Weiss and Yang.

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The show wants the viewer to believe that all stories are taking place six months after the fall of Beacon, but actually each of the plotlines the show follows(except follows (except for Salem's and possibly Oscar's) all take places before what is currently happening with Ruby, justifying a reunion of them all during the finale in Haven.
* Weiss' story happened about 2 or 3 months before Chronology is confirmed in Volume 5; Blake's storyline is one month behind Ruby's.
** Oobleck and Port mention that Goodwitch was getting Beacon back in order, while Salem tells the orb grimm to reinforce the school in the previous episode.
* Whatever the case may be, it's likely that any chronology issues will be resolved in Volume 5.
** Indeed. The Menagerie storyline, as of "Lighting the Fire", is taking place a month before those of team RNJR, Weiss and Yang.




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* Jossed. But he does manifest the BarrierWarrior powers at the end of Volume 7.



* At the moment Salem only seems to be focusing on just setting up for another plan, so the biggest danger will be Adam become the leader of the entirety of the White Fang.

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* At the moment Salem only seems to be focusing on just setting up for another plan, so the biggest danger will be Adam become the leader of the entirety of the White Fang.



** Additionally, Watts and his "informant" will likely have a role to play in all this. Especially when one considers who the informant actually is.
* Jossed so far. Adam took leadership of the White Fang in the second episode, and Salem appears to be keeping him on a leash until she finds the Spring Maiden.

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** Additionally, Watts and his "informant" will likely have a role to play in all this. Especially when one considers who the informant actually is.
* Jossed so far.Jossed. Adam took leadership of the White Fang in the second episode, and Salem appears to be keeping him on a leash until she finds the Spring Maiden.



* Given that Oscar's last name is Pine (and that last names are used to make team names, like Sky Lark of CRDL and May Zedong of BRNZ) and that he's got [[spoiler:Ozpin's [[LegacyWeapon cane]]]], he seems to be a likely candidate for Pyrrha's replacement.
** More evidence to this theory is that Oscar would be based on the character of Ozma. Ozma was first introduced in the orginal book series as a boy named Tip who got an involuntary sex-change by the Wicked Witch of the North to keep her from ascending as the rightful ruler of Oz. Ozma succeeded the wizard's rule just as Oscar is the successor of Ozpin's legacy. It fits with JNPR's theme cross-dressing mythological heroes.
*** Both Pines and Junipers are evergreen trees. Oscar's last name isn't revealed until the V4 finale. The late reveal might have been an attempt on RT's part to keep the fanbase from making this assumption before the season was over as theme naming in RWBY sure as hell ain't ever a coincidence.
*** Well, Team JNPR, doesn't use their last names for their team, so why would they use Oscars last name to maintain the P? Seems rather disrespectful to Pyrrha honestly. They would stick to using given names if he joined them, which would make them Team ORNJ, or Team Orange. Not quite as catchy, but it still fits for the how the naming convention works.
*** They use Ren's last name.
*** Even so, one time does not state anything for certain and Ozpin himself could have done it for pragmatic reasons. Regardless, this theory is currently on hold, as Oscar has shown no interest in joining Jaune, Nora, and Ren in Volume 5, but that does not indicate he won't in later seasons.

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* Given that Oscar's last name is Pine (and that last names are used to make team names, like Sky Lark of CRDL and May Zedong of BRNZ) and that he's got [[spoiler:Ozpin's [[LegacyWeapon cane]]]], he seems to be a likely candidate for Pyrrha's replacement.
** * More evidence to this theory is that Oscar would be based on the character of Ozma. Ozma was first introduced in the orginal book series as a boy named Tip who got an involuntary sex-change by the Wicked Witch of the North to keep her from ascending as the rightful ruler of Oz. Ozma succeeded the wizard's rule just as Oscar is the successor of Ozpin's legacy. It fits with JNPR's theme cross-dressing mythological heroes.
*** Both Pines and Junipers are evergreen trees. Oscar's last name isn't revealed until the V4 finale. The late reveal might have been an attempt on RT's part to keep the fanbase from making this assumption before the season was over as theme naming in RWBY sure as hell ain't ever a coincidence.
*** Well, Team JNPR, doesn't use their last names for their team, so why would they use Oscars last name to maintain the P? Seems rather disrespectful to Pyrrha honestly. They would stick to using given names if he joined them, which would make them Team ORNJ, or Team Orange. Not quite as catchy, but it still fits for the how the naming convention works.
*** They use Ren's last name.
*** Even so, one time does not state anything for certain and Ozpin himself could have done it for pragmatic reasons. Regardless, this theory is currently on hold, as Oscar has shown no interest in joining Jaune, Nora, and Ren in Volume 5, but that does not indicate he won't in later seasons.
heroes.




* Confirmed, except for the location. Weiss and Yang have a catch-up dinner with team RNJR in Chapter 7, at their safehouse.

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* Confirmed, except for Partially jossed. A breather half-episode occurs in the location. house Team RNJR are staying at, involving a reunion meal with Team RNJR, Weiss and Yang have a catch-up dinner with team RNJR in Chapter 7, at their safehouse.
Yang, but no-one else. Everyone gets back to business when Qrow and Oscar arrive.



[[WMG: Salem's master plan involves ...]]
* ... Cinder stealing '''''every Maiden's powers''''' and acquire and unleash all four relics. Let ''that'' sink in for a moment and [[BringMyBrownPants wear earthen-coloured trousers]].
** Just to add fuel to the fire, Salem will use ''whatever'' she's using to heal Cinder as a means to possess her and use the relics directly.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed]] as of chapter 12. [[spoiler:Cinder tries to suck the power from Vernal using her new Grimm arm whilst mere steps away from getting in]].

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[[WMG: Salem's master plan involves ...]]
* ... Cinder stealing '''''every Maiden's powers''''' and acquire and unleash all four relics. Let ''that'' sink in for a moment and [[BringMyBrownPants wear earthen-coloured trousers]].
** Just to add fuel to the fire, Salem will use ''whatever'' she's using to heal Cinder as a means to possess her and use the relics directly.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed]] as of chapter 12. [[spoiler:Cinder tries to suck the power from Vernal using her new Grimm arm whilst mere steps away from getting in]].



* We know about the circumstances surrounding The Spring Maiden's disappearance and we know that Raven is a SocialDarwinist, those SocialDarwinist ideas could have led to Raven murdering the inexperienced Maiden on their first meeting to gain her powers. The setup for Raven being a total scumbag has already been happening since Volume 4, this Reveal could act as the final nail in the coffin to show how truly monsterous Raven is. Also, it gives Raven a reason to be killed off by either the heroes (who could decide that she is too much of a threat) or the villains (who want the Spring Maiden's powers.)
** This might indeed be the case; every time we see Vernal, the supposed Spring Maiden, use her powers, she does so without the tell-tale flicker of energy around her eyes that the Fall Maidens Amber and Cinder produce. Whilst that effect could be just isolated to the Fall Maiden, it's also telling that, during her meeting with Cinder and Watts, Raven specifically orders Vernal to bring her helmet, which she only removes after Vernals demonstration of power, perhaps to hide that Raven really is the Spring Maiden and Vernal is just a decoy. It would be a pretty good twist, especially since Cinder and crew don't seem to even consider the possibility and Raven is planning on stealing the relic right out from under them. It's even further telling that none of those in the know about the Maidens, like Qrow and Lionheart, ever mention Springs name being Vernal, even amongst themselves, keeping even the audience out of the loop. Of course, for bonus points, this might then lead to a Maiden vs Maiden battle with Raven and Cinder, which would be epic.
** The only hiccup here is that the Spring Maiden ran away 10 years ago, so Raven would've been 30 years old; 5-10 years too old to inherit the powers. Of course, this could be explained that since the Maiden and Raven's shape-shifting powers have a common source, she would be the exception to the rule.
*** Was there ever a WordOfGod on how old a person had to be before they’re too old to inherit a Maiden power? Nothing on the official wiki specifies a cut-off point and the only mention to age is simply stated as “a young woman” which is pretty vague. We also don’t know Ravens exact age. For all we know she had Yang pretty young, like 20 maybe, which would put her at 37 today, meaning she could have acquired the power at age 27, maybe even younger depending on when she actually had Yang. Neither Qrow or Raven look anything past 40, so we can probably assume they’re not that old yet. So it might still work.
* While the second half of the question is [[spoiler:still in the air]], the first half [[spoiler:has been confirmed as of Chapter 12; ''Raven'' is the Spring Maiden]].
* [[spoiler:Confirmed.]]

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* We know about the circumstances surrounding The Spring Maiden's disappearance and we know that Raven is a SocialDarwinist, those SocialDarwinist ideas could have led to Raven murdering the inexperienced Maiden on their first meeting to gain her powers. The setup for Raven being a total scumbag has already been happening since Volume 4, this Reveal could act as the final nail in the coffin to show how truly monsterous Raven is. Also, it gives Raven a reason to be killed off by either the heroes (who could decide that she is too much of a threat) or the villains (who want the Spring Maiden's powers.)
** This might indeed be the case; every time we see Vernal, the supposed * Confirmed. When Spring Maiden, use ran away a decade ago, Raven's tribe took her powers, she does so without the tell-tale flicker of energy around her eyes that the Fall Maidens Amber and Cinder produce. Whilst that effect could be just isolated to the Fall Maiden, it's also telling that, during her meeting with Cinder and Watts, in. Although Raven specifically orders tried to train her, she concluded Spring wasn't cut out for this world and killed her. Now, the tribemember Vernal to bring her helmet, which she only removes after Vernals demonstration of power, perhaps to hide that Raven really is the Spring Maiden and that everyone is after. [[spoiler:Except Vernal is just a decoy. It would be a pretty good twist, especially since Cinder and crew don't seem to even consider the possibility and When Raven is planning on stealing the relic right out from under them. It's even further telling that none of those in the know about the Maidens, like Qrow and Lionheart, ever mention Springs name being Vernal, even amongst themselves, keeping even the audience out of the loop. Of course, for bonus points, this might then lead to a Maiden vs Maiden battle with Raven and Cinder, which would be epic.
** The only hiccup here is that the Spring Maiden ran away 10 years ago, so Raven would've been 30 years old; 5-10 years too old to inherit the powers. Of course, this could be explained that since the Maiden and Raven's shape-shifting
killed Spring, Spring's powers have a common source, she would be the exception passed to the rule.
*** Was there ever a WordOfGod on how old a person had to be before they’re too old to inherit a Maiden power? Nothing on the official wiki specifies a cut-off point and the only mention to age is simply stated as “a young woman” which is pretty vague. We also don’t know Ravens exact age. For all we know she had Yang pretty young, like 20 maybe, which would put her at 37 today, meaning she could have acquired the power at age 27, maybe even younger depending on when she actually had Yang. Neither Qrow or Raven look anything past 40, so we can probably assume they’re
her, not that old yet. So it might still work.
* While the second half of the question is [[spoiler:still in the air]], the first half [[spoiler:has been confirmed as of Chapter 12; ''Raven'' is the Spring Maiden]].
* [[spoiler:Confirmed.
Vernal.]]



[[WMG:Volume 6's events.]]
This volume will have at least three distinct story arcs for the heroes; the reformation/replacement of the White Fang, the reconstruction of Haven Academy, and Qrow's mission to Atlas. The former will likely see Team Belladonna unite the remaining cells under their banners, having them replenish Mistral's dead Huntsmen population. The latter two will likely be intertwined; not only will Ironwood need to be brought to his senses (which could happen either by Qrow bringing Oscar/Ozpin to him or by gaining insight with the Knowledge Relic), but also because the doomed faculty of Haven Academy needs replacing, and Atlas has plenty of Huntsmen to go around. If Ironwood's trust issues persist, then Winter will likely get promoted to Headmaster of Haven Academy (or be amongst the staff if Qrow gets chosen instead), and sent there to train teams RWBY, SSSN and JNPR (assuming Oscar joins the latter as Pyrrha's replacement) for the upcoming war against Salem.\\
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As for the villains, there will be some repercussions. Adam will likely be forced to take the fall for losing the Haven battle ''and'' the White Fang, very likely resulting in his death by Salem's hand. Watts will then relay everything he learned about Atlas's isolation and Ironwood's paranoia to Salem, who will most likely turn to Watts to expedite her schemes, given his Atlesian background and prowess as a scientist. Tyrian and Hazel will likely assist when Watts creates an opening to cause harm to Atlas Academy. As for Mercury and Emerald, their fates depend on two variables - whether Cinder was smart enough to think of Emerald while she died (thereby giving the Fall Maiden status to Emerald), and whether Emerald recovers from her Semblance overload.






[[WMG:Volume 6's reputation will end up just as bad as Volume 5.]]
Miles' and Kerry's claims about the writing process are very similar to the previous volume, in that it wasn't always successful. This season could (Emphasis on 'could') end up a hapless attempt that veers too closely to damage control, to appease disheartened fans.
* Not looking too likely, given the warm response to the first episode. After all, both Miles and Kerry started writing V6 a week after the V5 finale aired and sought feedback from Gray, Yssa and others on each scene, and the show's looking better off for it.



[[WMG:We won't just get Salem's origins from the Relic; we'll get a whole episode of flashbacks to scope out Ozpin's lives.]]
* The opening sequence shows us four specific incarnations of Ozpin; the King of Vale, the figure being worshipped in the trailer, a casual character known colloquially as "Dad Ozpin", and the professor we all know. It's a fair guess to say that Salem's backstory will involve one of them (either Dad Ozpin or the cult leader), and we'll see the regrets/dark secrets of the other three - such as the King of Vale wrecking Vacuo, and the death of Summer Rose (and maybe Gretchen Rainart) for Ozpin.
* Confirmed as of The Lost Fable. All three incarnations appeared.



[[WMG:Ozpin had a plan to defeat Salem, and it still can work.]]
After the Great War ended, the King of Vale founded the four Academies and created the Maiden Vaults within them to keep Salem's hands off the Relics. After that, the creation of the CCT system and the Faunus Rights Revolution, both the King and the Professor that followed him worked tirelessly to promote cooperation between the four Kingdoms, as well as try to placate the Faunus. Arguably, had Salem never caught wind of the Maiden Vaults and Adam never committed to Cinder's cause, Oz would've achieved the world peace he needed to [[spoiler:bring the Gods to humanity's side fairly easily]].

After the events of the last three volumes, the first thing the heroes must do after handing Ironwood the Lantern of Knowledge is to repair the Vale CCT Tower, and broadcast about everyone under Salem's employ as well as the Belladonna's efforts in Mistral. This will unite humanity and faunus in a way that it hasn't been before, and give the heroes reason to [[spoiler:unite the Relics, recall the Brothers, and achieve victory that way]].

* Amazingly, this is exactly what Ironwood is planning to do as of Volume 7, Episode 2 - with two differences. First off, Ironwood's actually redesigning the CCT with the use of [[spoiler:Amity Colosseum as a high-atmosphere satellite tower, designed to keep the network going even if another tower falls]]. Secondly, Ironwood also wants to [[spoiler:tell the world about Salem]].



[[WMG:Qrow will die, and Ruby will kill the Lovecraft Grimm with her eyes, before suffering a breakdown.]]
During the sheer ParanoiaFuel of episode 5, Ruby opines that the abandoned bar should be closed up, in case Qrow decides to [[DrowningMySorrows hit the bottle]] over what he'd learned earlier that day. The last sound we hear is ''something'' rousing itself within the cellar of that bar - likely the Lovecraft Grimm from the opening sequence - and we also know that Qrow gets taken by it after having a drink. It's a fair guess to say that Qrow will stumble upon it, get drunk, and decide to break into the cellar for more booze, with terrible consequences.

Given that Yang and Weiss are getting drowsy, Maria's elderly, and Oscar's without a semblance, Ruby will then ask Blake to watch over the others while she searches for the Grimm in a race against time. She'll discover that Qrow got murdered quite nastily by the Grimm, and she'll unleash the eyes on the Grimm and kill it. Of course, she'll break down afterwards (as hinted by Weiss helping her up in the sequence), thereby filling something that the CRWBY and Lindsay have wanted to do for some time. It could even lead to another piece of the trailer getting expanded on by Jaune ''losing it'' after learning of Qrow's fate and blaming Ozpin for putting him in danger in the first place.
* Semi-Confirmed; Ruby manages to kill most of the Grimm in the cellar with her silver eyes before Weiss burns the rest alive as everyone escapes. {{Jossed}} with Qrow dying though.



[[WMG: Maria's eye specialist is Doctor Watts]]
... and that will cause her to trust him, only for Watts to destroy the chance to secure the Haven Relic within Atlas, once he discovers whom Maria's aligned with.
* {{Jossed}}. The specialist who works on Maria's eyes is Pietro Polendina, a close ally of Ironwood, and also the creator of Penny. Though he and Watts worked in the same team long ago.



* As it turns out, Penny's Aura isn't artificial; instead, Dr. Polendina donated a sizable portion of his own Aura when he built Penny, and did it ''again'' when she got ripped apart in Volume 3.

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* As it turns out, Penny's Aura isn't artificial; instead, Dr. Polendina donated Jossed. Penny was a sizable portion result of Pietro wanting a military defence system that possessed a soul, and sacrificed parts of his own Aura when he built Penny, to give Penny hers. His damaged Aura is the reason he's so sick. As long as Penny's core survives, she can be rebuilt, but she can only become ''Penny'' for as long as Pietro has Aura to spare... and did it ''again'' when she got ripped apart in Volume 3.
if he rebuilds her just one more time, it'll kill him.



* As it transpires, Dr. Watts and Dr. Polendina once worked together when the latter began to create Penny, while the former worked on Mantle's heating grid and cyber-infrastructure. How Dr. Watts got disgraced is still unknown, as of episode 9 it has something to do with "The Paladin Incident," although it did result in Watts faking his own death.

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* As it transpires, Dr. Jossed. Pietro and Watts and Dr. Polendina once worked together when were rivals in a competition to develop the latter began next generation of military defence systems. Ironwood chose Pietro's plan (Penny) over Watts' (implied to create Penny, while be the former worked on Mantle's heating grid and cyber-infrastructure. Paladins). How Dr. Watts got was disgraced is still unknown, as of episode 9 it has something to do with "The Paladin Incident," although it did result in Watts faking never explained, but he was believed dead during an unspecified "Paladin incident years ago" (he actually faked his own death.
death). They never come face-to-face in the show.



* As it turns out, Tyrian's Semblance is localised Aura corrosion; he can bypass the aura around any given part of the opponent's body with a wave of his hand - and most importantly, Tyrian's Semblance allows him to see his victim's Aura. Given that Jaune's got an enormous amount of Aura, and that he can regenerate it quickly with his amplification Semblance, Tyrian most likely spotted both of those things when he first encountered Jaune and therefore sees him as a challenging kill.

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* As it turns out, Tyrian's Semblance is localised Aura corrosion; he can bypass Jossed. During the aura around any given part of the opponent's body with a wave of his hand - and most importantly, Tyrian's Semblance allows him to see his victim's Aura. Given that Jaune's got an enormous amount of Aura, and that he can regenerate it quickly with his amplification Semblance, Atlas Arc, Tyrian most likely spotted both of those things when he first encountered does briefly cross paths with Ruby, but mostly deals with Qrow, Robyn and Clover. His interest in Jaune and therefore sees him as a challenging kill.
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[[WMG: An AngerBornOfWorry and LoveConfession moment between Blake and Yang.]]
Chances of this happening in Volume 9 is still 50/50, but there are subtle hints that Blake might have romantic feelings for Yang. Arryn Zech also confirmed that Blake is bisexual.

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[[WMG: An AngerBornOfWorry and LoveConfession moment between Blake and Yang.]]
Chances of this happening in Volume 9 is are still 50/50, but there are subtle hints that Blake might have romantic feelings for Yang. Arryn Zech also confirmed that Blake is bisexual.
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Chances of this happening in Volume 9 is still 50/50 50/50, but there are subtle hints that Blake might have romantic feelings for Yang (since she's confiremed to be bi).Yang. Arryn Zech also confirmed that Blake is bisexual.
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Chances of this happening in Volume 9 is still 50/50 but there are subtle hints that Blake might have romantic feelings for Yang (since she's confiremed to be bi). And then there's the "favourite moment" Arryn mentioned.

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Chances of this happening in Volume 9 is still 50/50 but there are subtle hints that Blake might have romantic feelings for Yang (since she's confiremed to be bi). And then there's the "favourite moment" Arryn mentioned.
Zech also confirmed that Blake is bisexual.
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[[WMG: An AngerBornOfWorry and LoveConfession moment between Blake and Yang.]]
Chances of this happening in Volume 9 is still 50/50 but there are subtle hints that Blake might have romantic feelings for Yang (since she's confiremed to be bi). And then there's the "favourite moment" Arryn mentioned.
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* A VillainEpisode at the start of Volume 9, which details Cinder's rise to power and formation of an elite team of Remnant's worst criminals to conquer Remnant (likely for the remaining Relics and the rest of the Maidens).

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* A VillainEpisode at the start of Volume 9, which details Cinder's rise to power and formation of an elite team of Remnant's worst criminals to conquer Remnant it (likely for the remaining Relics and the rest of the Maidens).
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[[WMG: Ruby won't be able to move on from the events of the previous Volume until she met the spirit of Summer/Penny and her friends talked her out of it.]]
Since Volume 9 is confirmed to be Ruby's story, this would make sense as part of [[CharacterDevelopment a tremendous change to the core of her character]], serving as a reflection to the events of "The Girl who Fell From the World". This would also follow Oum's original vision of the series' CentralTheme of "accepting loss" and "moving forward".

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[[WMG: Ruby won't be able to move on from the events of the previous Volume her failures in Atlas until she met she's talked out of it by either her friends or the spirit of Summer/Penny and her friends talked her out of it.Penny/Summer.]]
Since Volume 9 is confirmed to be Ruby's story, so this would make sense as part of [[CharacterDevelopment a tremendous change to the core of her character]], serving as a reflection reflecting to the events of "The Girl who Fell From the World". This would also follow Since Ruby suppressed her pent-up feelings after the events of Volume 3, the emotional "pep talk" moment serves as the final push she desperately needed to "let them go and move forward", which faithfully follows one of Oum's original vision of visions for the series' CentralTheme of "accepting loss" and "moving forward".
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[[WMG: Ruby won't be able to move on from the events of the previous Volume until she met the spirit of Summer/Penny and her friends talked her out of it.]]
Since Volume 9 is confirmed to be Ruby's story, this would make sense as part of [[CharacterDevelopment a tremendous change to the core of her character]], serving as a reflection to the events of "The Girl who Fell From the World". This would also follow Oum's original vision of the series' CentralTheme of "accepting loss" and "moving forward".
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* A VillainEpisode at the start of Volume 9, which details Cinder's rise to power and formation of an elite team of Remnant's worst criminals to conquer Remnant (likely for the remaining Relics and the rest of the Maidens).
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[[WMG: If there are any scenes showing the remaining group in Vacuo...]]

* CFVY and SSSN will make an appearance, as well as reference [[Literature/RWBYAfterTheFall their own adven]][[Literature/RWBYBeforeTheDawn tures in Vacuo]].
* Qrow will learn that Ozpin has returned, and he won't be happy because he wasn't there when the others decided to forgive him. He'll state once again that meeting him was the worst luck of his life, especially now that his nieces are MIA/presumed dead.
* Ren and Nora will be shown mourning Jaune and Team RWBY, believing themselves to be the only survivors of their original friend group.
* Some people will be wary of Emerald due to her originally siding with Cinder.
* Winter will try to find Pietro and tell him what happened to Penny.
* If Salem and Cinder make an appearance, they will be discussing plans with Tyrian and Mercury on how to find the Summer Maiden and obtain the Relic of Destruction.

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[[WMG: There is a (significant) chance that Neo would be written off at the end of Volume 9.]]

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[[WMG: Penny won't be brought back.]]
For as much as people would like to see her return, that doesn't seem to be likely. As far as the story goes, she wouldn't really have much to do, especially since Winter is now the Winter Maiden and the cast will undoubtedly get bigger as the series enters Vacuo with the return of Teams CFVY and SSSN alone. Not to mention how convoluted it would be to try and bring her back, as unlike last time she's not an android that could be rebuilt.

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