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Notice when Bringing back Jack is brought up, Sao Feng strokes the scarred side of his head, and the Twins giggle, so perhaps Jack had seduced them and Sao Feng got angry and they fought, causing the scars.

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Notice when Bringing back Jack is brought up, Sao Feng strokes the scarred side of his head, and the Twins giggle, so perhaps Jack had seduced them and Sao Feng got angry and they fought, causing the scars.scars.

[[WMG: Barbossa has Sephardic Portuguese origins]]
The original family name was Barbosa. They were among the Portuguese Jews who were deported to Cape Verde in the 1490s and became traders called ''lançados''. Over two centuries they could easily escape to the Caribbean or England itself and become pirates.
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* This would explain his desire to gain immortality by searching for the FountainOfYouth. The question remains: was he cured of his illnesses when he became undead in the first film, or when he died and was brought back between the second and third? [[AnythingThatMoves And would it have mattered]]?

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* This would explain his desire to gain immortality by searching for the FountainOfYouth. The question remains: was he cured of his illnesses when he became undead in the first film, or when he died and was brought back between the second and third? [[AnythingThatMoves And would it have mattered]]?mattered?
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* "bored and had goddess powers." Calypso is [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi]].

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* "bored and had goddess powers." Calypso is [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya [[Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi]].
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This explains his [[GlamourFailure odd mannerisms]], his [[UncannyValley strange walk]], his madness, and offers up an interesting question: Why does a faerie need to search for immortality?

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This explains his [[GlamourFailure odd mannerisms]], his [[UncannyValley strange walk]], walk, his madness, and offers up an interesting question: Why does a faerie need to search for immortality?
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Think about it. Ching Shih was the most feared female pirate to ever hit the waters. She clawed her way up from prostitute to commander of a fleet 300 ships strong. Why wouldn't she be mentioned in this universe?

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Think about it. Ching Shih was the most feared female pirate to ever hit the waters. [[FromNobodyToNightmare She clawed her way up from prostitute to commander of a fleet 300 ships strong. strong.]] Why wouldn't she be mentioned in this universe?
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[[WMG:\Tne Flying Dutchman may not have a captain]]

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[[WMG:\Tne [[WMG:The Flying Dutchman may not have a captain]]




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* Jossed. Will was still Captain until his curse was broken.




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* Jossed.
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* This is strengthened even more by the fact that the real life Blackbeard's real name was ''Edward Teach''. Quite the similarity, eh?

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* This is strengthened even more by the fact that the real life Blackbeard's real name was ''Edward Teach''. Quite the similarity, eh?eh?

[[WMG: Jack is responsible for Sao Feng's scarring.]]
Notice when Bringing back Jack is brought up, Sao Feng strokes the scarred side of his head, and the Twins giggle, so perhaps Jack had seduced them and Sao Feng got angry and they fought, causing the scars.
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since the bantering baddie trope will focus on competence, this fits more after all


** Turn it around: maybe they're not related, but Barbossa specifically recruited Ragetti into the ''Pearl'''s crew ''because'' he was missing an eye, so could carry the piece of eight around without anyone wondering why. Which explains why Barbossa's put up with ThoseTwoBadGuys' trouble-making behavior for so long.

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** Turn it around: maybe they're not related, but Barbossa specifically recruited Ragetti into the ''Pearl'''s crew ''because'' he was missing an eye, so could carry the piece of eight around without anyone wondering why. Which explains why Barbossa's put up with ThoseTwoBadGuys' BumblingHenchmenDuo's trouble-making behavior for so long.
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remembered they don't fit + new trope being made


** Turn it around: maybe they're not related, but Barbossa specifically recruited Ragetti into the ''Pearl'''s crew ''because'' he was missing an eye, so could carry the piece of eight around without anyone wondering why. Which explains why Barbossa's put up with the BumblingHenchmenDuo's trouble-making behavior for so long.

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** Turn it around: maybe they're not related, but Barbossa specifically recruited Ragetti into the ''Pearl'''s crew ''because'' he was missing an eye, so could carry the piece of eight around without anyone wondering why. Which explains why Barbossa's put up with the BumblingHenchmenDuo's ThoseTwoBadGuys' trouble-making behavior for so long.
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** Turn it around: maybe they're not related, but Barbossa specifically recruited Ragetti into the ''Pearl'''s crew ''because'' he was missing an eye, so could carry the piece of eight around without anyone wondering why. Which explains why Barbossa's put up with ThoseTwoBadGuys' trouble-making behavior for so long.

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** Turn it around: maybe they're not related, but Barbossa specifically recruited Ragetti into the ''Pearl'''s crew ''because'' he was missing an eye, so could carry the piece of eight around without anyone wondering why. Which explains why Barbossa's put up with ThoseTwoBadGuys' the BumblingHenchmenDuo's trouble-making behavior for so long.
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The real Blackbeard is Jack's father, Edward Teague. When some random pirate with a similar appearance steals his identity, Teague feels flattered and thus doesn't care. He's already known as the Keeper of the code, so giving the Blackbeard moniker away is nothing.

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The real Blackbeard is Jack's father, Edward Teague. When some random pirate with a similar appearance steals his identity, Teague feels flattered and thus doesn't care. He's already known as the Keeper of the code, so giving the Blackbeard moniker away is nothing.nothing.
* This is strengthened even more by the fact that the real life Blackbeard's real name was ''Edward Teach''. Quite the similarity, eh?
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[[WMG: Calypso is [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ursula.]]]]

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[[WMG: Calypso is [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ursula.]]]]
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Any man she kisses while she's on a boat meets with a cruel fate. She can get struck by an undead sea monster without getting so much as a bruise. She has never wielded a weapon in her entire life and yet she just picks up a pole and starts wrecking shit. Perhaps it's just because these are movies and the makers are relying on suspension of disbelief, but it's truly because she has at least one supernatural ancestor. Perhaps her mother was a supernatural creature, perhaps even a god. A short story implied that Calypso was a demigoddess so it's not impossible Elizabeth is one as well.

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Any man she kisses while she's on a boat meets with a cruel fate. She can get struck by an undead sea monster without getting so much as a bruise. She has never wielded a weapon in her entire life and yet she just picks up a pole and starts wrecking shit. Perhaps it's just because these are movies and the makers are relying on suspension of disbelief, but it's truly because she has at least one supernatural ancestor. Perhaps her mother was a supernatural creature, perhaps even a god. A short story implied that Calypso was a demigoddess so it's not impossible Elizabeth is one as well.well.

[[WMG: Blackbeard from the fourth movie is an imposter]]
The real Blackbeard is Jack's father, Edward Teague. When some random pirate with a similar appearance steals his identity, Teague feels flattered and thus doesn't care. He's already known as the Keeper of the code, so giving the Blackbeard moniker away is nothing.
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I mean come on, he constantly bluffing, conning and charming his enemies. Most of whom are extremely powerful or on the case of Davy Jones, supernatural. It only makes sense that he's part of the Laughing Magician bloodline.

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I mean come on, he He's constantly bluffing, conning and charming his enemies. Most of whom them are extremely powerful or on the case of Davy Jones, supernatural. It only makes sense that he's part of the Laughing Magician bloodline.



C'mon there's no way any ordinary human being could've survived that fall on the Pelegostos' Island in DMC. When Jack made his deal with Davy Jones a side benefit was probably that it was all but impossible for Jack to die until his time was up to avoid him dying somewhere along the way and escaping servitude on the Dutchman.

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C'mon there's There's no way any ordinary human being could've survived that fall on the Pelegostos' Island in DMC. When Jack made his deal with Davy Jones a side benefit was probably that it was all but impossible for Jack to die until his time was up to avoid him dying somewhere along the way and escaping servitude on the Dutchman.Dutchman.



** When Davy Jones gets ganked by Will, he doesn't automatically go back to full health, the crew has to cut out his heart to revive him. This implies it's not Calypso's choice on who gets to be the next captain, it's the crew's decision. However, they (evidently) vastly prefer the person who destroyed the heart in the first place, and it's possible Calypso could come around to punish them if the heart's destroyer was a reasonable captain (read: human, or maybe fishman). I would assume that with an unreasonable destroyer of the heart (using examples already here, Jack the monkey or a rock that crushed it without human interference) would be passed over for the role of captain, and it would instead be given to whoever's next in command, as (I presume) it would go on a real pirate ship after a sudden captain death.

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** When Davy Jones gets ganked by Will, he doesn't automatically go back to full health, the crew has to cut out his heart to revive him. This implies it's not Calypso's choice on who gets to be the next captain, it's the crew's decision.decision ("Part of the crew, part of the ship/Part of the ship, part of the crew"). However, they (evidently) vastly prefer the person who destroyed the heart in the first place, and it's possible Calypso could come around to punish them if the heart's destroyer was a reasonable captain (read: human, or maybe fishman). I would assume that with an unreasonable destroyer of the heart (using examples already here, Jack the monkey or a rock that crushed it without human interference) would be passed over for the role of captain, and it would instead be given to whoever's next in command, as (I presume) it would go on a real pirate ship after a sudden captain death.



[[WMG: Cotton is from [[Literature/HisDarkMaterials Lyra's world]]...]]
...And the parrot can talk for him because it's his dæmon.

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[[WMG: Cotton is from [[Literature/HisDarkMaterials Lyra's world]]...]]
...And the
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The
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Any man she kisses while she's on a boat meets with a cruel fate. She can get struck by an undead sea monster without getting so much as a bruise. She has never wielded a weapon in her entire life and yet she just picks up a pole and starts wrecking shit. Perhaps it's just because these are movies and the maker are relying on suspension of disbelief, but it's truly because she has at least one supernatural ancestor. Perhaps her mother was a supernatural creature, perhaps even a god. A short story implied that Calypso was a demigoddess so it's not impossible Elizabeth is one as well.

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Any man she kisses while she's on a boat meets with a cruel fate. She can get struck by an undead sea monster without getting so much as a bruise. She has never wielded a weapon in her entire life and yet she just picks up a pole and starts wrecking shit. Perhaps it's just because these are movies and the maker makers are relying on suspension of disbelief, but it's truly because she has at least one supernatural ancestor. Perhaps her mother was a supernatural creature, perhaps even a god. A short story implied that Calypso was a demigoddess so it's not impossible Elizabeth is one as well.
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* Next KingdomHearts. This better happen. Get on it, Creator/SquareEnix.

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* Next KingdomHearts.''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. This better happen. Get on it, Creator/SquareEnix.
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* Eventually, he found a way to magically duplicate himself and sent the duplicates even further back in time. One of his selves became spymaster to Queen Elizabeth I; the other hung around [[ShakespeareInLove a certain hack playwright]].

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* Eventually, he found a way to magically duplicate himself and sent the duplicates even further back in time. One of his selves became spymaster to Queen Elizabeth I; the other hung around [[ShakespeareInLove [[Film/ShakespeareInLove a certain hack playwright]].
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** While another more-ethical duplicate went forward to the 20th Century, where he landed a gig [[TheKingsSpeech teaching a royal guy to control his speech impediment.]]

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** While another more-ethical duplicate went forward to the 20th Century, where he landed a gig [[TheKingsSpeech [[Film/TheKingsSpeech teaching a royal guy to control his speech impediment.]]
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* "Pirate Lord" may or may not be the same as "Mentor". He was, after all, {{stealth mentor}}ing Will. In the boys own words, "I thought to myself, 'think like Jack'."

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* "Pirate Lord" may or may not be the same as "Mentor". He was, after all, {{stealth mentor}}ing Will. In the boys boy's own words, "I thought to myself, 'think like Jack'."



Any man she kisses while she's on a boat meets with a cruel fate. She can get struck by an undead sea monster without getting so much as a bruise. She has never weilded a weapon in her entire life and yet she just picks up a pole and starts wrecking shit. Perhaps it's just because these are movies and the maker are relying on suspension of disbelief, but I'd argue that it's because she has atleast one supernatural ancestor. Perhaps her mother was a supernatural creature, perhaps even a god. I mean a short story implied that Calypso was a demigoddess so it's not impossible Elizabeth is one aswell.

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Any man she kisses while she's on a boat meets with a cruel fate. She can get struck by an undead sea monster without getting so much as a bruise. She has never weilded wielded a weapon in her entire life and yet she just picks up a pole and starts wrecking shit. Perhaps it's just because these are movies and the maker are relying on suspension of disbelief, but I'd argue that it's truly because she has atleast at least one supernatural ancestor. Perhaps her mother was a supernatural creature, perhaps even a god. I mean a A short story implied that Calypso was a demigoddess so it's not impossible Elizabeth is one aswell.as well.
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As mentioned in the WMG directly above, the tendency for pirates to do this is [[ThePrincessBride well documented]]. AllInTheManual confirms that Gentleman Jocard took his name from the slaver who kidnapped him. Now consider the names of the other lords: Barbossa seems a clear nod to the Barbarossa brothers, Greek-Berber pirates from the 16th century, well before the movies start; Mistress Cheng shares her name from a pirate who wasn't born until 1775, some decades after the series is supposed to end. AnachronismStew? Perhaps, but it seems more likely that the Lords, just as any other royals, select regnal names for themselves that often (maybe not always, and maybe sometimes mangled by [[ThisIsMyNameOnForeign changing linguistic trends]]) are taken from their predecessors.

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As mentioned in the WMG directly above, the tendency for pirates to do this is [[ThePrincessBride [[Film/ThePrincessBride well documented]]. AllInTheManual confirms that Gentleman Jocard took his name from the slaver who kidnapped him. Now consider the names of the other lords: Barbossa seems a clear nod to the Barbarossa brothers, Greek-Berber pirates from the 16th century, well before the movies start; Mistress Cheng shares her name from a pirate who wasn't born until 1775, some decades after the series is supposed to end. AnachronismStew? Perhaps, but it seems more likely that the Lords, just as any other royals, select regnal names for themselves that often (maybe not always, and maybe sometimes mangled by [[ThisIsMyNameOnForeign changing linguistic trends]]) are taken from their predecessors.

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* Jossed. A short story confirms her father is Atlas.



...And the parrot can talk for him because it's his dæmon.

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...And the parrot can talk for him because it's his dæmon.dæmon.

[[WMG: Elizabeth has atleast some supernatural blood in her veins]]

Any man she kisses while she's on a boat meets with a cruel fate. She can get struck by an undead sea monster without getting so much as a bruise. She has never weilded a weapon in her entire life and yet she just picks up a pole and starts wrecking shit. Perhaps it's just because these are movies and the maker are relying on suspension of disbelief, but I'd argue that it's because she has atleast one supernatural ancestor. Perhaps her mother was a supernatural creature, perhaps even a god. I mean a short story implied that Calypso was a demigoddess so it's not impossible Elizabeth is one aswell.
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* "Pirate Lord" may or may not be the same as "Mentor". He was, after all, {{stealth mentor}}ing Will. In the boys own words, "I thought to myself, 'think like Jack'."

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* "Pirate Lord" may or may not be the same as "Mentor". He was, after all, {{stealth mentor}}ing Will. In the boys own words, "I thought to myself, 'think like Jack'.""

[[WMG: Cotton is from [[Literature/HisDarkMaterials Lyra's world]]...]]
...And the parrot can talk for him because it's his dæmon.
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As mentioned in the WMG directly above, the tendency for pirates to do this is [[ThePrincessBride well documented]]. AllInTheManual confirms that Gentleman Jocard took his name from the slaver who kidnapped him. Now consider the names of the other lords: Barbossa seems a clear nod to the Barbarossa brothers, Greek-Berber pirates from the 16th century, well before the movies start; Mistress Cheng shares her name from a pirate who wasn't born until 1775, some decades after the series is supposed to end? AnachronismStew? Perhaps, but it seems more likely that the Lords, just as any other royals, select regnal names for themselves that often (maybe not always, and maybe sometimes mangled by [[ThisIsMyNameOnForeign changing linguistic trends]]) are taken from their predecessors.

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As mentioned in the WMG directly above, the tendency for pirates to do this is [[ThePrincessBride well documented]]. AllInTheManual confirms that Gentleman Jocard took his name from the slaver who kidnapped him. Now consider the names of the other lords: Barbossa seems a clear nod to the Barbarossa brothers, Greek-Berber pirates from the 16th century, well before the movies start; Mistress Cheng shares her name from a pirate who wasn't born until 1775, some decades after the series is supposed to end? end. AnachronismStew? Perhaps, but it seems more likely that the Lords, just as any other royals, select regnal names for themselves that often (maybe not always, and maybe sometimes mangled by [[ThisIsMyNameOnForeign changing linguistic trends]]) are taken from their predecessors.
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[[WMG: The Pirate Lords pass down their names to their successors as titles]]
As mentioned in the WMG directly above, the tendency for pirates to do this is [[ThePrincessBride well documented]]. AllInTheManual confirms that Gentleman Jocard took his name from the slaver who kidnapped him. Now consider the names of the other lords: Barbossa seems a clear nod to the Barbarossa brothers, Greek-Berber pirates from the 16th century, well before the movies start; Mistress Cheng shares her name from a pirate who wasn't born until 1775, some decades after the series is supposed to end? AnachronismStew? Perhaps, but it seems more likely that the Lords, just as any other royals, select regnal names for themselves that often (maybe not always, and maybe sometimes mangled by [[ThisIsMyNameOnForeign changing linguistic trends]]) are taken from their predecessors.

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** Moreover, a charming, multitalented (probably taking from Jack) but secretly unpleasant copy, managed to incartnate itself in the womb of an English woman. And thus, [[TheLifeandDeathofPeterSellers Peter Sellers was born.]]




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* Does the fact that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzCxOAtiAtg this]] sounding like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqZO9OIbKCg this]] help? (Wrong movie, I know, but same director.)



The parrot was known to use nautical catchphrases such as "Don't eat me", "Shiver me timbers", and "[[TitleDrop Dead men tell no tales]]."

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The parrot was known to use nautical catchphrases such as "Don't eat me", "Shiver me timbers", and "[[TitleDrop Dead men tell no tales]]."tales]].
* Jossed, sadly. Jack The Monkey does show up however!




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* Possibly confirmed. We aren't given much specifics on the curse Salazar has, so it is up to interpretaion. Moreover, [[spoiler: Davy Jones does return in TheStinger.]]
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* And thus the myth is complete, the sea is turned over to the humans, and [[{{Holes}} the curse on Green Lake is finally lifted]].

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* And thus the myth is complete, the sea is turned over to the humans, and [[{{Holes}} [[Literature/{{Holes}} the curse on Green Lake is finally lifted]].
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[[WMG: [[GodInHumanForm Calypso]] is really ''[[TwistedMetal Calypso]]''.]]
What's the TwistedMetal Calypso's specialty? [[LiteralGenie Granting your wish exactly as you asked for, but not at all as you intended]]. Davy Jones calls out Calypso for exactly this in the third movie. Davy Jones didn't just love Calypso, he was the first winner in an early, naval form of the TwistedMetal tournament, and asked for eternal life so he could keep sailing and be with his love. And we all know how that turned out.

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[[WMG: [[GodInHumanForm Calypso]] is really ''[[TwistedMetal ''[[VideoGame/TwistedMetal Calypso]]''.]]
What's the TwistedMetal VideoGame/TwistedMetal Calypso's specialty? [[LiteralGenie Granting your wish exactly as you asked for, but not at all as you intended]]. Davy Jones calls out Calypso for exactly this in the third movie. Davy Jones didn't just love Calypso, he was the first winner in an early, naval form of the TwistedMetal VideoGame/TwistedMetal tournament, and asked for eternal life so he could keep sailing and be with his love. And we all know how that turned out.

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[[index]]
* WMG/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMenTellNoTales
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[[WMG: Jack is a distant relative of John Constantine]]

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[[WMG: Jack is a distant relative of John Constantine]]ComicBook/JohnConstantine]]
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[[WMG: In ''Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales'', Brenton Thwaites's character Henry is actually Will and Elizabeth's son.]]
The curse he's trying to break is Will's duty to the Dutchman, which has kept them apart all these years.

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After he finally settles down, Jack has a child, who moves to England and has his own, and the family lives in London all the way down to the girl who saved the Doctor.
* Somewhat doubtful that Captain Jack Sparrow, who cheated death multiple times and faced down the Kraken, would give up pirating to "settle down".

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After he finally settles down, Jack has a child, one-night stand with a random "strumpet" at a random port; perhaps one of the woman who slapped him in the movies. The child of this encounter is told that their father is "Captain Jack Sparrow" and they decide to take on the name. Eventually the family moves to England and has his own, and the family lives in London all the way down to the girl who saved the Doctor.
* Somewhat doubtful that Captain Jack Sparrow, who cheated death multiple times and faced down the Kraken, would give up pirating to "settle down".
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[[WMG:Not really; a guess but a doubt. I guess the Flying Dutchman may not have a captain]]
I've always wondered what would have happened if Jack (the monkey) stabbed the heart, or someone stabs the heart and then kills themselves before being rendered immortal. Or if Davy Jones stabs his own heart.
** Let's see- if Jones stabs his own heart, he dies and is reborn as captain of the Dutchman. Since he's ''already'' captain, this changes nothing. Also, I really doubt that killing yourself after stabbing the heart would work, since by stabbing the heart you've ''already'' made yourself immortal, and if the monkey stabbed the heart, he'd become captain (which would be... strange, to say the least). In a worst-case scenario, Calypso would probably just have to appoint someone to do the job, or risk the sea filling up with ghosts.
** But we see that the heart is, indeed - mortal. So the heart can be destroyed. Which is why Davy Jones guards it so well. And I guess Calypso could do that now, but she was sealed as Tia Dalma for a while. On that note, since Davy Jones had given up the responsibility of guiding the dead - who was doing that? Because if I remember right the souls were ferrying themselves. So I'm pretty confused about the whole deal.** The heart is mortal ''on the condition that whoever stabs it becomes the next captain''. The way I see it, Will was dying when he stabbed the heart, but then was fine after being reborn as captain. Therefore, if Jones stabbed his own heart, both he and it ''would'' die- but the power of the ''Dutchman'' would restore both almost immediately afterward. So again, no reason for Jones to even try it. As for the dead, Tia/Calypso was obviously upset upon seeing their condition, so while they ''can'' ferry themselves, it's not a desirable situation. Presumably, the ''Dutchman'' is a much more efficient means of transporting souls to the afterlife.
*** It was my understanding that the ghosts boats were people who were "At peace" as Tia Dalma said, which meant they could find their own way to the afterlife. Meanwhile the ghosts in the water weren't at peace, so they were lost and adrift in the Locker.
** So what would happen if a rock fell out of the sky and stabbed the heart? Would the rock be the new Captain of the Flying Dutchman?
*** Either that'd be stranger than a monkey being captain, or whatever tossed the rock takes the title.
*** It's possible that the magic prevents the heart from being destroyed except by human agency. Considering ''nobody'' seems to be worried about the heart getting damaged/destroyed by natural causes...
** I've got a theory on this too. When Davy Jones gets ganked by Will, he doesn't automatically go back to full health, the crew has to cut out his heart to revive him. This implies it's not Calypso's choice on who gets to be the next captain, it's the crew's decision. However, they (evidently) vastly prefer the person who destroyed the heart in the first place, and it's possible Calypso could come around to punish them if the heart's destroyer was a reasonable captain (read: human, or maybe fishman). I would assume that with an unreasonable destroyer of the heart (using examples already here, Jack the monkey or a rock that crushed it without human interference) would be passed over for the role of captain, and it would instead be given to whoever's next in command, as (I presume) it would go on a real pirate ship after a sudden captain death.

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[[WMG:Not really; a guess but a doubt. I guess the [[WMG:\Tne Flying Dutchman may not have a captain]]
I've always wondered what What would have happened if Jack (the monkey) stabbed the heart, or someone stabs the heart and then kills themselves before being rendered immortal. Or if Davy Jones stabs his own heart.
heart. What would happen if a rock fell out of the sky and stabbed the heart? Would the rock be the new Captain of the Flying Dutchman?
** Let's see- if Jones stabs his own heart, he dies and is reborn as captain of the Dutchman. Since he's ''already'' captain, this changes nothing. Also, I really doubt its doubtful that killing yourself after stabbing the heart would work, since by stabbing the heart you've ''already'' made yourself immortal, and if immortal,
**If
the monkey stabbed the heart, he'd become captain (which would be... strange, to say the least). In
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a worst-case scenario, Calypso would probably just have to appoint someone to do the job, or risk the sea filling up with ghosts.
** But we see that the heart is, indeed - mortal. So the heart can be destroyed. Which is why Davy Jones guards it so well. And I guess Calypso could do that now, but she was sealed as Tia Dalma for a while. On that note, since Davy Jones had given up the responsibility of guiding the dead - who was doing that? Because if I remember right the souls were ferrying themselves. So I'm pretty confused about the whole deal.** The heart is mortal ''on the condition that whoever stabs it becomes the next captain''. The way I see it, Will was dying when he stabbed the heart, but then was fine after being reborn as captain. Therefore, if Jones stabbed his own heart, both he and it ''would'' die- but the power of the ''Dutchman'' **A rock captain would restore both almost immediately afterward. So again, no reason for Jones to even try it. As for the dead, Tia/Calypso was obviously upset upon seeing their condition, so while they ''can'' ferry themselves, it's not a desirable situation. Presumably, the ''Dutchman'' is a much more efficient means of transporting souls to the afterlife.
*** It was my understanding that the ghosts boats were people who were "At peace" as Tia Dalma said, which meant they could find their own way to the afterlife. Meanwhile the ghosts in the water weren't at peace, so they were lost and adrift in the Locker.
** So what would happen if a rock fell out of the sky and stabbed the heart? Would the rock be the new Captain of the Flying Dutchman?
*** Either that'd
be stranger than a monkey being captain, or whatever tossed the rock takes the title.
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title. It's possible that the magic prevents the heart from being destroyed except by human agency. Considering ''nobody'' seems to be worried about the heart getting damaged/destroyed by natural causes...
** I've got a theory on this too. When Davy Jones gets ganked by Will, he doesn't automatically go back to full health, the crew has to cut out his heart to revive him. This implies it's not Calypso's choice on who gets to be the next captain, it's the crew's decision. However, they (evidently) vastly prefer the person who destroyed the heart in the first place, and it's possible Calypso could come around to punish them if the heart's destroyer was a reasonable captain (read: human, or maybe fishman). I would assume that with an unreasonable destroyer of the heart (using examples already here, Jack the monkey or a rock that crushed it without human interference) would be passed over for the role of captain, and it would instead be given to whoever's next in command, as (I presume) it would go on a real pirate ship after a sudden captain death.



* Except that after the credits for At World's End shows Elizabeth and [[spoiler: her child by Will]] on a cliff watching the Flying Dutchman come to shore, 10 years later
* Even after Davy Jones cut out his heart, he confesses that he will always love Calypso.

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* Except that after *Jossed. After the credits for At World's End shows Elizabeth and [[spoiler: her child by Will]] on a cliff watching the Flying Dutchman come to shore, 10 years later
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later. Furthermore Even after Davy Jones cut out his heart, he confesses that he will always love Calypso.



Somehow or another, Jack manages to achieve immortality. Hundreds of years later, in a bit of fantastic irony, he plays himself in the Pirates Of The Caribbean series of movies that turn out to be based off of true events.
* Then how'd he make himself young enough to appear as a teenager in ''Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet1984''?

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Somehow or another, Jack manages to achieve immortality. Hundreds of years later, in a bit of fantastic irony, he plays himself in the Pirates Of The Caribbean series of movies that turn out to be based off of true events.
* Then how'd he make
events. He made himself young enough to appear as a teenager in ''Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet1984''?
''Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet1984'' because of sea turtles; [[RunningGag they gave him de-aging magic]].



[[WMG: Captain Salazar is actually [[spoiler: {{Film/Skyfall}} Raoul Silva]].]]

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[[WMG: Captain Salazar is actually [[spoiler: {{Film/Skyfall}} Raoul Silva]].]]]]

[[WMG: Jack Sparrow [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed is an Assassin]]]]
*He's big on freedom which can be seen in several character speeches about it to Will and others, and also the reason he was branded a pirate in the first place is freeing slaves. Yet he isn't (in the end) selfish about it, thus showing the wisdom that comes from the Creed.
*Constantly fighting with other, more controlling, arrogant and/or upper class antagonists (i.e. Templars) over magical relics.
*His version of "hide in plain sight" involves more RefugeInAudacity than StealthExpert. However, he still has the skills and knowledge to run, climb, and jump whenever he is exposed.
* "Pirate Lord" may or may not be the same as "Mentor". He was, after all, {{stealth mentor}}ing Will. In the boys own words, "I thought to myself, 'think like Jack'."

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