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Those two intertwined trees in the orchard aren't the ones that sprouted from the seeds the Apple parents planted -- they ''are'' the Apple parents. Since there was no known cure to Swamp Fever (or any theoretical related sicknesses), there was also no way to cure them when they contracted it. So one day, they went into the orchard, embraced each other one last time and waited for the disease to finish their [[{{transflormation}} transformation]].
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Those two intertwined trees in the orchard aren't the ones that sprouted from the seeds the Apple parents planted -- they ''are'' the Apple parents. Since It is canon that there are sicknesses or stimuli that can cause ponies to transform into trees -- it's not a huge leap to assume that a similar disease, perhaps reacting oddly to the inherent magic of earth ponies, could cause a similar transformation. Similarly to how there was no known cure to Swamp Fever (or Fever, there likely wouldn't be a cure for any theoretical related sicknesses), there was also no way to cure them when sicknesses lie the one they contracted it.contracted. So one day, they went into the orchard, embraced each other one last time and waited for the disease to finish their [[{{transflormation}} transformation]].
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[[WMG:Thorax's clutch was a result of genetic experimenting by Queen Chrysalis]]\
Thorax and Pharynx, who we know were hatched from the same brood, share a number of characteristics that set them notably apart from how every other changeling has behaved and/or been portrayed in the show:
* They are the only changelings to have unique color schemes as common drones: instead of the light blue eyes, teal crest and dark blue carapace every other changeling shared, Thorax had a green carapace, while Pharynx had a purple carapace, lilac eyes and a red crest.
* When the other changelings shapeshift (save Chrysalis, and she's far from a typical changeling) they take forms equal to or close to their own in mass, and they've never changed shape except to infiltrate or to confuse enemies. When going into melee, they always keep their natural forms even when fighting opponents that that's not sufficient against. This is most evident in their invasion of Canterlot in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E26ACanterlotWeddingPart2 A Canterlot Wedding]]" and when they're fighting the Maulwurf in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E19ToChangeAChangeling To Change a Changeling]]". There have been only two exceptions: Thorax turning into a large bear to fight Ember and Pharynx turning into a huge armored arthropod to intimidate other changelings and later to fight the Maulwurf.
* Finally, they're much more independent-minded than other changelings. Their stories both focus heavily on them stubbornly doing what they think is right despite receiving ridicule and hostility from the other changelings. By contrast, the other 'lings are a much more uniform lot, and seem to be very prone to "going with the flow" if the speed and ease with which they all go from being soldiers to being peaceful hippies is any indication.
Now, the actual WMG: Chrysalis had planned her invasion of Equestria (and of a whole lot more if she had won, knowing her) for a while, and wanted a better force than the one she had. Changelings, as it stands, seem to have serious issues with herd mentality and lack of independence. This is fine for minions and henchmen, but a full-scale war and invasion requires soldiers who can act on their own in the field. As such, Chrysalis decided to run experiments on her egg clutches in preparation for the coup, with the intention of creating more independent soldiers who would be able to take initiative in chaotic battles or campaigns. Pharynx was one of the more satisfactory results (hence being head of patrols), while Thorax is a case that has GoneHorriblyRight.
While she was at it, Chrysalis also decided to give her new minions the ability to change size as well as shape. While being unable to change your size is no handicap when you only need to pass as a pony, being able to become an armored behemoth the size of a tank can be ''much'' more useful in pitched melee. As for the colors, that may be an accidental side effect, a way for Chrysalis to spot her "experiments" at a glance, or the first possibility adopted as the second.
Thorax and Pharynx, who we know were hatched from the same brood, share a number of characteristics that set them notably apart from how every other changeling has behaved and/or been portrayed in the show:
* They are the only changelings to have unique color schemes as common drones: instead of the light blue eyes, teal crest and dark blue carapace every other changeling shared, Thorax had a green carapace, while Pharynx had a purple carapace, lilac eyes and a red crest.
* When the other changelings shapeshift (save Chrysalis, and she's far from a typical changeling) they take forms equal to or close to their own in mass, and they've never changed shape except to infiltrate or to confuse enemies. When going into melee, they always keep their natural forms even when fighting opponents that that's not sufficient against. This is most evident in their invasion of Canterlot in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E26ACanterlotWeddingPart2 A Canterlot Wedding]]" and when they're fighting the Maulwurf in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E19ToChangeAChangeling To Change a Changeling]]". There have been only two exceptions: Thorax turning into a large bear to fight Ember and Pharynx turning into a huge armored arthropod to intimidate other changelings and later to fight the Maulwurf.
* Finally, they're much more independent-minded than other changelings. Their stories both focus heavily on them stubbornly doing what they think is right despite receiving ridicule and hostility from the other changelings. By contrast, the other 'lings are a much more uniform lot, and seem to be very prone to "going with the flow" if the speed and ease with which they all go from being soldiers to being peaceful hippies is any indication.
Now, the actual WMG: Chrysalis had planned her invasion of Equestria (and of a whole lot more if she had won, knowing her) for a while, and wanted a better force than the one she had. Changelings, as it stands, seem to have serious issues with herd mentality and lack of independence. This is fine for minions and henchmen, but a full-scale war and invasion requires soldiers who can act on their own in the field. As such, Chrysalis decided to run experiments on her egg clutches in preparation for the coup, with the intention of creating more independent soldiers who would be able to take initiative in chaotic battles or campaigns. Pharynx was one of the more satisfactory results (hence being head of patrols), while Thorax is a case that has GoneHorriblyRight.
While she was at it, Chrysalis also decided to give her new minions the ability to change size as well as shape. While being unable to change your size is no handicap when you only need to pass as a pony, being able to become an armored behemoth the size of a tank can be ''much'' more useful in pitched melee. As for the colors, that may be an accidental side effect, a way for Chrysalis to spot her "experiments" at a glance, or the first possibility adopted as the second.
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But rather than linking her to the [[TheFlash Speed Force]] like Rainbow Dash, it will link her to the [[PowerRangers Morphing Grid]]
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* Jossed, unless one considers helping others find their special talents to be godlike.
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[[WMG:The Cutie Mark Crusaders (and the other foals their age) are the equivalent of middle or high schoolers by the later seasons, rather than elementary school kids.]]
It’s a common assumption that getting a Cutie Mark is more-or-less equivalent (or at least a parallel) to the onset of puberty, at least from a cultural point of view (in that, at least, it's a mostly physical change that marks the shift from being a child to starting to become your own adult), with the Crusaders being “late bloomers” who got theirs a bit later than usual. Combined with this is the fact that, as shown in “[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E9TheFaultInOurCutieMarks The Fault in Our Cutie Marks]]”, the Crusaders seem to have a lot of freedom in running their Cutie Mark counseling group, implying that they’re considered mature and competent enough to run their own organization outside of school and to do it well enough to be worth listening to. Finally, the same episode shows that their class is in the process of learning pre-calculus, something not generally taught before at least middle school age or so. All in all, this points to them having aged at least a bit since their first appearance -- if they were (the pony equivalent of?) nine or ten or so in their debut, they’re probably closer to thirteen or fourteen by now, call it fifteen at the highest.
It’s a common assumption that getting a Cutie Mark is more-or-less equivalent (or at least a parallel) to the onset of puberty, at least from a cultural point of view (in that, at least, it's a mostly physical change that marks the shift from being a child to starting to become your own adult), with the Crusaders being “late bloomers” who got theirs a bit later than usual. Combined with this is the fact that, as shown in “[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E9TheFaultInOurCutieMarks The Fault in Our Cutie Marks]]”, the Crusaders seem to have a lot of freedom in running their Cutie Mark counseling group, implying that they’re considered mature and competent enough to run their own organization outside of school and to do it well enough to be worth listening to. Finally, the same episode shows that their class is in the process of learning pre-calculus, something not generally taught before at least middle school age or so. All in all, this points to them having aged at least a bit since their first appearance -- if they were (the pony equivalent of?) nine or ten or so in their debut, they’re probably closer to thirteen or fourteen by now, call it fifteen at the highest.
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* "Where the Apple Lies" strongly hints at this. In the WholeEpisodeFlashback, we see neither Applejack's parents OR a young Apple Bloom.
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It is really weird that they have the talent of helping others gain their cutie marks if they had not guessed correctly their cutie marks in more than three seasons (in-universe, more than an year).
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They both wear a star-covered cloak and Sunburst's beard looks as similar to Star Swirl's as the length difference allows. Sunburst also took interest in the fact that his friend traveled through time. It is also implied that Celestia knows that there's more to Sunburst than meets the eye. Star Swirl has a different cutie mark in the merchandise, but then again, he did create a spell that alters cutie marks and the merch isn't necessarily canon anyway.
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They both wear a star-covered cloak and Sunburst's beard looks as similar to Star Swirl's as the length difference allows. Sunburst also took interest in the fact that his friend traveled through time. It is also implied that Celestia knows that there's more to Sunburst than meets the eye. Star Swirl has a different cutie mark in the merchandise, merchandise (we haven't seen it in the show yet thanks to the cloak), but then again, he did create a spell that alters cutie marks marks, Starlight could end up using her own experience in cutie mark magic to help him change it, and the merch isn't necessarily canon anyway.
