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[[WMG: The tentacled creature seen being manhandled in one of the labs at the BPRD is an Elder Thing.]]
It's got a cigar-shaped body with tentacles radiating around each end, and it'd be an appropriate Creator/HPLovecraft reference with which to maintain the Verse's thematic connection to the Cthulhu Mythos, despite ''HBII'' being about fey rather than CosmicHorror.
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[[WMG: Kroenen is an allegory of MichaelJackson]]

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[[WMG: Kroenen is an allegory of MichaelJackson]]Music/MichaelJackson]]
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[[WMG: The scene with Krauss making doll furniture is a shout out to AbeKroenen]]

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[[WMG: The scene with Krauss making doll furniture is a shout out to AbeKroenen]]Webcomic/AbeKroenen]]
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**Or the Angel of Death, like Rasputin in the previous film, think that they can make Hellboy's destroy the world destiny happen if they just keep repeating it. Some people just want to be right. Maybe Liz' ultimate suffering consists of Hellboy trying to comfort Abe over the loss of Nuala, resulting in years of drunken duets. The horrors.
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We see plenty of demons and monsters, but no angels.

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We see plenty of demons The Hellboy universe is a CosmicHorrorStory, where destruction and monsters, but no angels.
decay are- so far- inevitable. The FairFolk are fading away, the human race is under siege and entire cities are being wiped out, and even Hell is suffering the effects. Why should Heaven be immune?
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** I thought the Angel was referring to the pain of watching the love of her life turn into an unrecognizable, soulless monster that triggers the apocalypse. And depending on how much the kids take after Dad, they could become monsters, too.
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[[WMG: God is dead.]]
We see plenty of demons and monsters, but no angels.
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** Or one's child. Or both.
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[[WMG: Hellboy went reality-hopping with the {{Planetary}} team at some point.

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[[WMG: Hellboy went reality-hopping with the {{Planetary}} team at some point.]]
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[[WMG: Hellboy went reality-hopping with the [[Comicbook/Planetary Planetary]] team at some point]]

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[[WMG: Hellboy went reality-hopping with the [[Comicbook/Planetary Planetary]] {{Planetary}} team at some point]]point.
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[[WMG: Hellboy went reality-hopping with the [[Comicbook/Planetary Planetary]] team at some point]]
The Hellboy we see in some of the crossovers is ''our'' Hellboy, hopping through realities on Planetary's bleedship and getting into messes with Savage Dragon, Batman and Starman, etc. That means there's an unseen Planetary/Hellboy crossover out there too...
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* It might refer to the death of Hellboy himself. In the comics it's suggested that Hellboy's inevitable death (everything dies) is what kick-starts the apocalypse. The death of a spouse is one of the most soul-destroying pains a person can go through.
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*Jossed. Azzael is Hellboy's father. Astaroth is his uncle.
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[[WMG: The demon Astaroth is Hellboy's Father]]

When Hellboy meets him at the end in Box Full of Evil, he says to Hellboy "Call me." Sounds like something a parent would say a child who has been routinely out-of-touch.
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It just makes sense (the VW Bus is [[{{Cars}} Filmore]]).

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It just makes sense (the VW Bus is [[{{Cars}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Cars}} Filmore]]).
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There's also a paratextual connection: the Ogdru Jahad, the Sadu Hem, and the monster from "Goodbye, Mister Tod" are all compared to the monsters of HPLovecraft by Mike Mignola (in the dedication of ''Seed of Destruction'' and an author's note in ''The Right Hand of Doom'', respectively). And the dying alien says that the Worm is the same species as the monster that possessed Mr. Tod.

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There's also a paratextual connection: the Ogdru Jahad, the Sadu Hem, and the monster from "Goodbye, Mister Tod" are all compared to the monsters of HPLovecraft Creator/HPLovecraft by Mike Mignola (in the dedication of ''Seed of Destruction'' and an author's note in ''The Right Hand of Doom'', respectively). And the dying alien says that the Worm is the same species as the monster that possessed Mr. Tod.



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In ''The Island'', the old man describes the creation of the world, the Ogdru Jahad, and its children, the Ogdru Hem: "The Watchers won their war against the Ogdru Hem. The Ogdru Hem were defeated--some torn from their bodies and cast out on the wind--some entombed in the Earth--but they all still live." In ''Conqueror Worm'', the dying alien describes the worm and its kind: "if they ever had physical bodies they are rid of them now." Both groups share the same goal as well: to cause the downfall of Man, and to awaken the Ogdru Jahad.

There's also a paratextual connection: the Ogdru Jahad, the Sadu Hem, and the monster from "Goodbye, Mister Tod" are all compared to the monsters of [[HPLovecraft H.P. Lovecraft]] by Mike Mignola (in the dedication of ''Seed of Destruction'' and an author's note in ''The Right Hand of Doom'', respectively). And the dying alien says that the Worm is the same species as the monster that possessed Mr. Tod.

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In ''The Island'', the old man describes the creation of the world, the Ogdru Jahad, and its children, the Ogdru Hem: "The Watchers won their war against the Ogdru Hem. The Ogdru Hem were defeated--some torn from their bodies and cast out on the wind--some entombed in the Earth--but they all still live." In ''Conqueror Worm'', the dying alien describes the worm and its kind: "if they ever had physical bodies they are rid of them now." Both groups share the same goal as well: to cause the downfall of Man, and to awaken the Ogdru Jahad.

Jahad.

There's also a paratextual connection: the Ogdru Jahad, the Sadu Hem, and the monster from "Goodbye, Mister Tod" are all compared to the monsters of [[HPLovecraft H.P. Lovecraft]] HPLovecraft by Mike Mignola (in the dedication of ''Seed of Destruction'' and an author's note in ''The Right Hand of Doom'', respectively). And the dying alien says that the Worm is the same species as the monster that possessed Mr. Tod.



[[WMG:The Aliens come from the distant future of the {{Warhammer 40000}} universe.]]
Physically, they resemble the Tau, but they wear clunky, rivet-covered armor with lots of cables resembling Imperium tech & their weapons have a distinctly Necron look to them. Also, in the video game they speak with Eldar accents. (As in they are from the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe, ''which is the distant future.'')

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[[WMG:The Aliens come from the distant future of the {{Warhammer TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} universe.]]
Physically, they resemble the Tau, but they wear clunky, rivet-covered armor with lots of cables resembling Imperium tech & their weapons have a distinctly Necron look to them. Also, in the video game they speak with Eldar accents. (As in they are from the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} 40K]] universe, ''which is the distant future.'')



** The portal that Rasputin returns through in the Himalayas is exactly the same pattern as the one at the bottom of the labyrinth. They both even need blood to activate. Methinks he hijacked one of the faerie king's portals for his own use. It's mostly a supposition on [[{{Earnest}} my]] part, but I like to imagine that Ophelia was using her new faerie powers/princess might to somehow block Rasputin's return until the blood offering was made.

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** The portal that Rasputin returns through in the Himalayas is exactly the same pattern as the one at the bottom of the labyrinth. They both even need blood to activate. Methinks he hijacked one of the faerie king's portals for his own use. It's mostly a supposition on [[{{Earnest}} my]] part, but I like to imagine that Ophelia was using her new faerie powers/princess might to somehow block Rasputin's return until the blood offering was made.
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She is specifically described as being out of everyone on earth, the one that will "suffer the most" when Hellboy inevitably leads to the destruction of humanity. Your own injury and/or death are nothing compared to losing your children.

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She is specifically described as being out of everyone on earth, the one that will "suffer the most" when Hellboy inevitably leads to the destruction of humanity. Your own injury and/or death are nothing compared to losing your children.



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*** You're overlooking the obvious. The Spear of Longinus, which has been in the Bureau since the fifties, is simply not acknowledged officially in order to avoid it being targeted. Then, some well-informed bad guy gets word of it anyway and makes off with it. The Bureau stop the BBEG from doing whatever he was trying to do, losing sight of the spear in the process. They comb the area, trying to find it, but are unsuccessful. So they acknowledge the last known location. Soon enough, it pops up in the events of Constantine and later gets recovered by the Bureau, who deny all knowledge once again.
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[[WMG: Morgan Le Fay made a mistake]]
In "The Wild Hunt" Morgan says that she wants Hellboy to become the king of England because he is a decendent of Author. However I don't think this will work. Not because he doesn't want it but because he is not eligible for the throne as Hellboy is a catholic who arent allowed to become english royalty.
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Physically, they resemble the Tau, but they wear clunky, rivet-covered armor with lots of cables resembling Imperium tech & their weapons have a distinctly Necron look to them. Also, in the video game they speak with Eldar accents. (As in they are from the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe, ''which is the distant future.''

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Physically, they resemble the Tau, but they wear clunky, rivet-covered armor with lots of cables resembling Imperium tech & their weapons have a distinctly Necron look to them. Also, in the video game they speak with Eldar accents. (As in they are from the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe, ''which is the distant future.''
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Physically, they resemble the Tau, but they wear clunky, rivet-covered armor with lots of cables resembling Imperium tech & their weapons have a distinctly Necron look to them. Also, in the video game they speak with Eldar accents.
** So, I'm confused as to what you're implying here exactly. The [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe itself ''is'' the distant future?about 38,990 years in the future, to be precise. So are you saying that they are ''from'' the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe, which ''is'' the distant future? Or that they are from what would be the distant future even to the people living in what is the ?present? for the citizens of The Imperium, a time even much ''further'' in the future than 40,999 AD, and it is a time when the different species of the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] [[{{The Verse}} verse]] have formed some sort of alliance and are now blended together, and traveled back across time and dimensions through The Warp to mess with [[ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} Red's]] world? Please clarify.

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Physically, they resemble the Tau, but they wear clunky, rivet-covered armor with lots of cables resembling Imperium tech & their weapons have a distinctly Necron look to them. Also, in the video game they speak with Eldar accents.
** So, I'm confused as to what you're implying here exactly. The [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe itself ''is'' the distant future?about 38,990 years
accents. (As in the future, to be precise. So are you saying that they are ''from'' from the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe, which ''is'' ''which is the distant future? Or that they are from what would be the distant future even to the people living in what is the ?present? for the citizens of The Imperium, a time even much ''further'' in the future than 40,999 AD, and it is a time when the different species of the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] [[{{The Verse}} verse]] have formed some sort of alliance and are now blended together, and traveled back across time and dimensions through The Warp to mess with [[ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} Red's]] world? Please clarify.
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** So, I'm confused as to what you're implying here exactly. The [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe itself ''is'' the distant future?about 38,990 years in the future, to be precise. So are you saying that they are ''from'' the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe, which ''is'' the distant future? Or that they are from what would be the distant future even to the people living in what is the ?present? for the citizens of The Imperium, a time even much ''further'' in the future than 40,999 AD, and it is a time when the different species of the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] [[{{The Verse}} verse]] have formed some sort of alliance and are now blended together, and traveled back across time and dimensions through The Warp to mess with [[{{Hellboy}} Red's]] world? Please clarify.

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** So, I'm confused as to what you're implying here exactly. The [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe itself ''is'' the distant future?about 38,990 years in the future, to be precise. So are you saying that they are ''from'' the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] universe, which ''is'' the distant future? Or that they are from what would be the distant future even to the people living in what is the ?present? for the citizens of The Imperium, a time even much ''further'' in the future than 40,999 AD, and it is a time when the different species of the [[{{Warhammer 40 K}} 40K]] [[{{The Verse}} verse]] have formed some sort of alliance and are now blended together, and traveled back across time and dimensions through The Warp to mess with [[{{Hellboy}} [[ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} Red's]] world? Please clarify.
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[[TakeThat It sure doesn't take place in the]] ''{{Hellblazer}}'' universe. Beyond that, the two movies share a prop: the Lance of Longinus (literally, it's the same prop). The BPRD has had the lance since the 50s, but in ''Constantine'' it isn't found until the 00s. This could easily be explained by [[AWizardDidIt magical Nazis]] [[TimeyWimeyBall using temporal magic]], neither of which is out of place in the two films.

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[[TakeThat It sure doesn't take place in the]] ''{{Hellblazer}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}'' universe. Beyond that, the two movies share a prop: the Lance of Longinus (literally, it's the same prop). The BPRD has had the lance since the 50s, but in ''Constantine'' it isn't found until the 00s. This could easily be explained by [[AWizardDidIt magical Nazis]] [[TimeyWimeyBall using temporal magic]], neither of which is out of place in the two films.
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[[WMG: [=~Pan's Labyrinth~=]'s Pale Man is made of Kroenen's spare parts]]

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[[WMG: [=~Pan's Labyrinth~=]'s PansLabyrinth's Pale Man is made of Kroenen's spare parts]]



[[WMG: ''[=~Pan's Labyrinth~=]'' takes place in the Hellboy film universe]]

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[[WMG: ''[=~Pan's Labyrinth~=]'' ''PansLabyrinth'' takes place in the Hellboy film universe]]

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[[WMG: Morgan Le Fay made a mistake]]
In "The Wild Hunt" Morgan says that she wants Hellboy to become the king of England because he is a decendent of Author. However I don't think this will work. Not because he doesn't want it but because he is not eligible for the throne as Hellboy is a catholic who arent allowed to become english royalty.

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It's not completely ridiculous. The jellyfish-like entity that was responsible his creation could be a manifestation of any sea deity, and the name of the occult society that Abe used to be part of, that was so fascinated with undersea occultism, was called the Oannes Society; Abe has been called "fish-god" by spirits before; and most telling, in "The Universal Machine", when the Marquis asks for Abe to be delivered to him, he indicates a drawing of the god Oannes in one of his books.


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It's not completely ridiculous. The jellyfish-like entity that was responsible his creation could be a manifestation of any sea deity, and the name of the occult society that Abe used to be part of, that was so fascinated with undersea occultism, was called the Oannes Society; Abe has been called "fish-god" by spirits before; in "The King of Fear", the Black Flame indicates that Abe is one of the Ogdru-Hem (or at least something with equal standing); and most telling, in "The Universal Machine", when the Marquis asks for Abe to be delivered to him, he indicates a drawing of the god Oannes in one of his books.

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Its just to damn perfect not to be.

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Its just to too damn perfect not to be.
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* Pretty much confirmed in ''King of Fear''--the mechs' purpose is to serve as incubation chambers for the Ogdru Hem.
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[[WMG: PansLabyrinth 's Pale Man is made of Kroenen's spare parts]]

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[[WMG: PansLabyrinth 's [=~Pan's Labyrinth~=]'s Pale Man is made of Kroenen's spare parts]]



[[WMG: PansLabyrinth takes place in the Hellboy film universe]]

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[[WMG: Constantine takes place in the HB film universe]]

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[[WMG: Liz' ultimate suffering as described by the Angel of Death in HBII will be the loss of her children.]]

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[[WMG: Liz' ultimate suffering as described by the Angel of Death in HBII ''HBII'' will be the loss of her children.]]

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It's not completely ridiculous. The jellyfish-like entity that was responsible his creation could be a manifestation of any sea deity, and the name of the occult society that Abe used to be part of, that was so fascinated with undersea occultism, was called the Oannes Society; Abe has been called "fish-god" by spirits before; and most telling, in "The Universal Machine", when the Marquis asks for Abe to be delivered to him, he indicates a drawing of the god Oannes in one of his books.

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It's not completely ridiculous. The jellyfish-like entity that was responsible his creation could be a manifestation of any sea deity, and the name of the occult society that Abe used to be part of, that was so fascinated with undersea occultism, was called the Oannes Society; Abe has been called "fish-god" by spirits before; and most telling, in "The Universal Machine", when the Marquis asks for Abe to be delivered to him, he indicates a drawing of the god Oannes in one of his books.
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[[WMG: Indiana Jones and Hellboy are set in the same universe.]]
Its just to damn perfect not to be.

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After Arrested Development's finale, George Sr. used some of the money Michael had, used it to create a new identity, and got himself involved in covering up the paranormal in exchange for a full pardon and protection from Lucille.

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After Arrested Development's finale, George Sr. used some of the money Michael had, used it to create a new identity, and got himself involved in covering up the paranormal in exchange for a full pardon and protection from Lucille.Lucille.

[[WMG: Liz' ultimate suffering as described by the Angel of Death in HBII will be the loss of her children.]]
She is specifically described as being out of everyone on earth, the one that will "suffer the most" when Hellboy inevitably leads to the destruction of humanity. Your own injury and/or death are nothing compared to losing your children.

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