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* And now even more {{Jossed}}, because Sony has given the rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel instead.
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Given the apparent prominence of the Negative Zone in this film an eventual appearance by them seems inevitable. Additionally...

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Given the apparent prominence of the Negative Zone in this film an eventual appearance by them seems inevitable. Additionally...\n
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[[WMG: A mind controlled Doom will function as TheDragon to Annihilus in the sequel]]
Assuming the leaked spoiler about Doom being trapped in the Negative Zone at the end of the film is true.
* The screenwriter said that said "leaked spoilers" were bullshit, and the trailer seems to support his claim. There's still a chance that this could hold out if the sequel is made.

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Well it's apparently inspired by movies like the one that invented YourHeadAsplode and the one where the main character gets spliced with a fly.

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Well it's apparently inspired by movies like the one that invented famously used YourHeadAsplode and the one where the main character gets spliced with a fly.fly.

[[WMG: Johnny and Sue are [[NotBloodSiblings romantically involved]]]]
There are rumors that the romantic subplot to this movie is ''different'', and in the trailer, it looks like Sue is caressing Johnny's face at one point in a way that's not typical for a familial relationship.

...The BrainBleach is over there for those who need it. If I'm right, I certainly will.
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[[WMG: This movie is going to be filled with NightmareFuel and HighOctaneNightmareFuel]]

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Well it's apparently inspired by movies like the one that invented YourHeadAsplode and the one where the main character gets spliced with a fly.
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[[WMG: "Blogger Doom" is simply Doom before the origin story]]
This is Doom during the "college" part of his origins. In the movie, he'll be horribly scared and blame Reed. Then he goes back to his home country...
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* The screenwriter said that said "leaked spoilers" were bullshit, and the trailer seems to support his claim. There's still a chance that this could hold out if the sequel is made.
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[[WMG: Annihilus and his Annihilation wave will appear as the BigBad of the sequel]]
Given the apparent prominence of the Negative Zone in this film an eventual appearance by them seems inevitable. Additionally...

[[WMG: A mind controlled Doom will function as TheDragon to Annihilus in the sequel]]
Assuming the leaked spoiler about Doom being trapped in the Negative Zone at the end of the film is true.
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* Apparently not.
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[[WMG: They're setting up the Mole Man as a villain in this movie for one reason]]

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[[WMG: They're setting up the Mole Man as a villain in this movie the sequel for one reason]]

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* If a cross-company deal were to be done between these studios, it would most likely be between Sony and Disney, as Disney could offer Sony more money for the ''Spider-Man'' franchise than Fox could. Fox has generally been insistent on keeping complete control over the Marvel franchises that they own (Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch notwithstanding), while Disney was able to work out several deals with Sony in the past. There have actually been rumors that Disney and Sony are having discussions as of late 2014, meaning that a ''Spider-Man''/''Avengers'' crossover is considerably more likely.

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* If a cross-company deal were to be done between these studios, it would most likely be between Sony and Disney, as Disney could offer Sony more money for the ''Spider-Man'' franchise than Fox could. Fox has generally been insistent on keeping complete control over the Marvel franchises that they own (Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch notwithstanding), while Disney was able to work out several deals with Sony in the past. There have actually been rumors that Disney and Sony are having discussions as of late 2014, meaning that a ''Spider-Man''/''Avengers'' crossover is considerably more likely.likely than one involving ''Spider-Man'' and the ''Fantastic Four'', let alone ''Spider-Man'' and ''X-Men''.



* Considering this movie seems to be an InNameOnly adaption, it's unlikely they'll even want to connect it to any other Marvel-based movies that actually follow the comic cannon - or that the other franchises would want to have a crossover with them.

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* Considering this movie seems to be an InNameOnly adaption, it's unlikely they'll even want to connect it to any other Marvel-based movies that actually follow the comic cannon canon - or that the other franchises would want to have a crossover with them.
* Apparently {{Jossed}}. Due to legal red tape, both Fox and Sony cannot use the characters with any license they do not own - the only way a crossover between these characters can happen is if Disney buys them out or works out a deal sharing the properties between the studios.




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[[WMG: They're setting up the Mole Man as a villain in this movie for one reason]]
And that's because they wanted to go with a [[{{Pun}} grounded]] superhero movie. ...See what I did there?
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* Considering this movie seems to be an InNameOnly adaption, it's unlikely they'll even want to connect it to any other Marvel-based movies that actually follow the comic cannon - or that the other franchises would want to have a crossover with them.
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* Would Disney even be able to do that?
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[[WMG: This movie will be Doom's StartOfDarkness]]
Rather than being the BigBad, he'll start out as a friend of Reed's who tries to help them cope with their powers. During TheClimax, he will get into an accident that scars his face, leading him to blame Reed for it and setting him on the path towards becoming closer to Comic!Doom.
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[[WMG: It's actually a Chronicle sequel and the characters are all comic fans playing out their fantasies]]
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[[WMG: Blogger!Doom is in fact a Doombot.]]
Because whenever Doom does something out of character, it's explained by him being a Doombot.

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[[WMG: The differences between the Fantastic Four and the reboot version is a result of poor communication.]]
When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after Film/TheAvengers showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like Chronicle too, The Fantastic Four." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four", and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to Chronicle, as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.

[[WMG: Reed left negative comments on Victor's blog]]

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[[WMG: The [[WMG:The differences between the Fantastic Four and the reboot version is a result of poor communication.]]
When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after Film/TheAvengers ''Film/TheAvengers'' showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like Chronicle ''Chronicle'' too, The ''The Fantastic Four.Four''." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like Chronicle ''Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four", Four'', and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to Chronicle, ''Chronicle'', as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.

[[WMG: Reed [[WMG:Reed left negative comments on Victor's blog]]blog.]]




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* Completely in-character for Doom, but only time will tell if such pettiness will be intrinsic to this Domashev guy in a more "grounded" story.
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[[WMG: Reed left negative comments on Victor's blog]]
And that's why Victor hates him so much.
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When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after Film/TheAvengers showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like Film/Chronicle too, The Fantastic Four." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four", and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to Chronicle, as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.

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When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after Film/TheAvengers showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like Film/Chronicle Chronicle too, The Fantastic Four." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four", and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to Chronicle, as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.
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[[WMG: The differences between the Fantastic Four and the reboot version is a result of poor communication.]]
When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after Film/TheAvengers showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like Film/Chronicle too, The Fantastic Four." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four", and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to Chronicle, as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.

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** Yes, that would be the best and most logical course of action for Sony, but this WMG operates on the assumption that they wouldn't be open to negotiating licensing rights (a la Fox, as you already noted), no matter how nonsensical that stance would appear to onlookers.



* Also, [[MarvelOneShots the real Doctor Doom and Mole Man are waiting in the background, and they will ''not'' be happy with this.]]

[[WMG:The movie actually is a FoundFootageFilm, or is at least shot like one]]

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* Also, [[MarvelOneShots [[Film/MarvelOneShots the real Doctor Doom and Mole Man are waiting in the background, and they will ''not'' will]] ''[[Film/MarvelOneShots not]]'' [[Film/MarvelOneShots be happy with this.]]

[[WMG:The movie actually is a FoundFootageFilm, FoundFootage film, or is at least shot like one]]
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* Also, [[MarvelOneShots the real Doctor Doom and Mole Man are waiting in the background, and they will ''not'' be happy with this.]]
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As the people involved ''did'' say the movie would have the feel of this genre. This could be part of the reason why Fox is so hesitant to show any of it - out of fear of backlash from fans and people that dislike the genre.

[[WMG:The Fantastic Four will '''not''' cross over with the X-Men, even though both are owned by Fox]]
Disney is most likely trying to prevent Fox from creating a shared universe between the two franchises through executive order. In addition, if the movie is released to negative reception, it is not likely that Fox would use the same cast (provided they still want to keep the rights if the reboot flops, instead of selling the franchise over to Disney).
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* If a cross-company deal were to be done between these studios, it would most likely be between Sony and Disney, as Disney could offer Sony more money for Spider-Man than Fox could. Fox has generally been insistent on keeping complete control over their Marvel franchises (Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch notwithstanding), while Disney was able to work out several deals with Sony in the past. There have actually been rumors that Disney and Sony are having discussions as of late 2014.

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* If a cross-company deal were to be done between these studios, it would most likely be between Sony and Disney, as Disney could offer Sony more money for Spider-Man the ''Spider-Man'' franchise than Fox could. Fox has generally been insistent on keeping complete control over their the Marvel franchises that they own (Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch notwithstanding), while Disney was able to work out several deals with Sony in the past. There have actually been rumors that Disney and Sony are having discussions as of late 2014.
2014, meaning that a ''Spider-Man''/''Avengers'' crossover is considerably more likely.

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* If a cross-company deal were to be done between these studios, it would most likely be between Sony and Disney, as Disney could offer Sony more money for Spider-Man than Fox could. Fox has generally been insistent on keeping complete control over their Marvel franchises (Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch notwithstanding), while Disney was able to work out several deals with Sony in the past. There have actually been rumors that Disney and Sony are having discussions as of late 2014.



They're actors hired to play them.

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They're actors hired to play them.them.
* At this point, this would quite frankly be an improvement to the movie.
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* [[{{BlackDudeDiesFirst}} Oh nice, kill off the black guy]]
[[WMG: Doctor Doom and Mole Man are not actually villains]]

They're actors hired to play them

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\n* [[{{BlackDudeDiesFirst}} [[BlackDudeDiesFirst Oh nice, kill off the black guy]]
[[WMG: Doctor
guy.]]
** To mitigate any UnfortunateImplications (since Johnny ''is'' a main character), you have Johnny miraculously survive, but wounded and sidelined for a bit, or have him FakingTheDead, thus getting patched up off-screen and setting up a BigDamnHeroes moment later on. (If the movie is trying to go for "grounded", an outright BackFromTheDead scenario like what happened in the comics proper is probably out of the question, even if [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo has to be kept]].)

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Doom and Mole Man are not actually villains]]

villains.]]
They're actors hired to play themthem.
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John Trank is even directing the ''FF'' reboot. [[Film/{{Chronicle}} This practically writes itself!]]

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John Trank is even directing the ''FF'' reboot. [[Film/{{Chronicle}} This practically writes itself!]]itself!]]

[[WMG: Doctor Doom and Mole Man are not actually villains]]

They're actors hired to play them

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[[WMG:There will be a future crossover with ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan''.]]

We already know that ''Spider-Man'', the ''Film/XMen'' films, and this upcoming movie will continue to not be part of Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, and that Fox and Sony are too stingy with the character rights to even consider a three-way company crossover that would result in what could possibly be the most fangasmic moneymaker in superhero movie history. But who's to say that Fox and Sony couldn't team up in an attempt to wrestle some of the market share from Marvel's nigh-untouchable dominance in the genre?

The premise? After the story for some reason or another brings Webhead into contact ([[LetsYouAndHimFight and conflict]]) with the Fantastic Four, the Green Goblin ([[ActorAllusion preferably Harry]]) ends up killing the Human Torch. In a very loose adaptation of actual comic book events, Spidey, having struck up a good friendship with Johnny over the course of the film and proven his talents to the others, is chosen to take Johnny's place on the team. The Baxter Building just so happens to be located in the Big Apple, so it's not like Peter would have to commute to the West Coast or anything.

John Trank is even directing the ''FF'' reboot. [[Film/{{Chronicle}} This practically writes itself!]]

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