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For one, they both deal with the supernatural. Two, Yuuko seems like his DistaffCounterpart. Three, they both have a Watanuki-like figure (i.ie, an {{adorkable}} teenage boy whom they love to tease. Lastly, [[spoiler: they both disappear]] at some point, [[spoiler: leaving their little teenage boys alone to fend for themselves...]] sort of. What this troper wonders most is why he hasn't written a crossover of ''Manga/{{xxxHOLiC}}'' and ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}''.

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For one, they both deal with the supernatural. Two, Yuuko seems like his DistaffCounterpart. Three, they both have a Watanuki-like figure (i.ie, an {{adorkable}} teenage boy whom they love to tease. Lastly, [[spoiler: they both disappear]] at some point, [[spoiler: leaving their little teenage boys alone to fend for themselves...]] sort of. What this troper wonders most is why he hasn't written a crossover of ''Manga/{{xxxHOLiC}}'' and ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}''.
''Literature/{{Bakemonogatari}}''.
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Apparitions have a hand in mental illness, and people's personal problems like in the case of Hitagi, [[spoiler:Tsubasa, and Nadeko]]. Psychologists unknowingly deals with these apparitions. In the Monogatari universe specialists probably are psychologists, most of them concealing the paranormal aspects of their job from the general public.

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Apparitions have a hand in mental illness, and people's personal problems like in the case of Hitagi, [[spoiler:Tsubasa, and Nadeko]]. Psychologists unknowingly deals deal with these apparitions. In the Monogatari universe specialists probably are psychologists, most of them concealing the paranormal aspects of their job from the general public.



How could she know everything? How could she know about the [[spoiler:"darkness"]] or the newer types of apparitions such as [[spoiler:Hanekawa's Kako]] and the [[spoiler:fact that Ougi Oshino is some kind of dark version of Koyomi]]. In moments she claimed to be suprised, she might be just bluffing.

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How could she know everything? How could she know about the [[spoiler:"darkness"]] or the newer types of apparitions such as [[spoiler:Hanekawa's Kako]] and the [[spoiler:fact that Ougi Oshino is some kind of dark version of Koyomi]]. In moments she claimed to be suprised, surprised, she might be just bluffing.



** [[spoiler:Confirmed. Ougi is an apparition created by Koyomi]]

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** [[spoiler:Confirmed. Ougi is an apparition created by Koyomi]]
Koyomi.]]



[[WMG:Tadatsuru is cursed of knowing how everything would play out in the future]]
How does one explain how he seems to be expecting his meeting with Koyomi but doesn't seem to have forsaw his [[spoiler:death through the hands of Yotsugi]].

* [[spoiler:Possibly Jossed]]. [[spoiler:It was revealed in hell that it was part of a plan with Gaen in an elaborate plan to thwart Ougi.]] He got information from Gaen, who is possibly omniscient. That is why he was [[spoiler:not surprised by his "death"]].

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[[WMG:Tadatsuru is cursed of with knowing how everything would play out in the future]]
How does one explain how he seems to be expecting his meeting with Koyomi but doesn't seem to have forsaw foreseen his [[spoiler:death through at the hands of Yotsugi]].

* [[spoiler:Possibly Jossed]]. [[spoiler:It was revealed in hell that it was part of a plan with Gaen in an elaborate plan to thwart Ougi.]] Ougi]]. He got information from Gaen, who is possibly omniscient. That is why he was [[spoiler:not surprised by his "death"]].



Tsukihi has [[spoiler:supernatural regeneration]] due to her [[spoiler:being an offspring of the Shide no Tori]]. When Koyomi learned the fact that her [[spoiler:sister is an apparition]], he is conflicted whether to [[spoiler:reveal the truth to Tsukihi]]. [[spoiler:Ougi has taunted that Tsukihi has no future at all suggesting that the lifespan of a Shide no Tori ends shortly after Tsukihi graduates from college or even earlier]]. However this may be [[spoiler:reflecting Koyomi's uncertainty regarding Tsukihi's nature, since Ougi IS Koyomi and only knows what he knows]].

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Tsukihi has [[spoiler:supernatural regeneration]] due to her [[spoiler:being an offspring of the Shide no Tori]]. When Koyomi learned the fact that her [[spoiler:sister is an apparition]], he is conflicted on whether to [[spoiler:reveal the truth to Tsukihi]]. Tsukihi]] or not. [[spoiler:Ougi has taunted that Tsukihi has no future at all suggesting that the lifespan of a Shide no Tori ends shortly after Tsukihi graduates would graduate from college or even earlier]]. However this may be [[spoiler:reflecting Koyomi's uncertainty regarding Tsukihi's nature, since Ougi IS Koyomi and only knows what he knows]].
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Kaiki is Okabe. Kaiki's mind was erased after [[spoiler:an Okabe from a timeline not featured in the visual novel, anime, or drama [=CDs=] made a time leap]] experiment that went awry. Somehow when that Okabe made a call, [[spoiler:Kaiki answered the phone which is meant from the past version of that Okabe within the same timeline]].

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Kaiki is Okabe. Kaiki's mind was erased after [[spoiler:an Okabe from a timeline not featured in the visual novel, anime, or drama [=CDs=] made a time leap]] experiment that went awry. Somehow when that Okabe made a call, [[spoiler:Kaiki answered the phone which is meant from the past version of that Okabe within the same timeline]].timeline]].


[[WMG: Hanekawa is [[Manga/{{HitoribocchiNoOOSeikatsu}} Kurai]]]]
Think about it, Kurai's name means "dark past" which could relate to Hanekawa's issues with her [[AbusiveParents abusive]] or [[ParentalNeglect neglectful]] adoptive parents. Yes Hanekawa was shown to have a single braid as a preschooler but could have sported a bobcut hair in middle school and Kurai's green eyes could are just [[InconsistentColoring inconsitency]] that her eyes could have really been purple. Kurai's name could have not been her real name after all and it was mentioned how Hanekawa frequently changed names due to having multiple adoptive parents.

Kurai's policy of not having friends could have given her all the time in the world to improve her academics and knowledge to Hanekawa's level or she could have been smart even then. Her credentials of being Bocchi's class moral officer could have helped Kurai as Hanekawa get selected as their class representative. While less bossy and somehow more open to friends in Monogatari, Kurai when she first met Koyomi Araragi as Hanekawa still seems not to have any other close friendship giving credence to this theory.

Also Hanekawa's [[spoiler:second]] apparition is the [[spoiler:Hysteria Tiger, which is also known as "Kako", and is a nod to her past as Kurai Kako]] which aside from being a manifestation of [[spoiler:her envy towards other characters's happy family life also reflects her envy towards others having genuine bonds with others]] which her [[spoiler:perfect "white" facade]] makes it hard for her to forge relationships on her own.
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[[WMG:[[SteinsGate Okabe]] is Kaiki]]

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[[WMG:[[SteinsGate [[WMG:[[VisualNovel/{{Steins Gate}} Okabe]] is Kaiki]]
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Kaiki is Okabe. Kaiki's mind was erased after [[spoiler:an Okabe from a timeline not featured in the visual novel, anime, or drama CDs made a time leap]] experiment that went awry. Somehow when that Okabe made a call, [[spoiler:Kaiki answered the phone which is meant from the past version of that Okabe within the same timeline]].

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Kaiki is Okabe. Kaiki's mind was erased after [[spoiler:an Okabe from a timeline not featured in the visual novel, anime, or drama CDs [=CDs=] made a time leap]] experiment that went awry. Somehow when that Okabe made a call, [[spoiler:Kaiki answered the phone which is meant from the past version of that Okabe within the same timeline]].
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it was created after Norman Osborn experimented on himself. The Green Goblin is an apparition which embodies Osborn's suppressed misanthropy. Like the Rainy Devil, the Green Goblin also helps Osborn do what he could not do himself like kill the board members of Oscorp who planned to oust him

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it was created after Norman Osborn experimented on himself. The Green Goblin is an apparition which embodies Osborn's suppressed misanthropy. Like the Rainy Devil, the Green Goblin also helps Osborn do what he could not do himself like kill the board members of Oscorp who planned to oust himhim

[[WMG:[[SteinsGate Okabe]] is Kaiki]]
Kaiki is Okabe. Kaiki's mind was erased after [[spoiler:an Okabe from a timeline not featured in the visual novel, anime, or drama CDs made a time leap]] experiment that went awry. Somehow when that Okabe made a call, [[spoiler:Kaiki answered the phone which is meant from the past version of that Okabe within the same timeline]].
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Slenderman is an apparition created due to the spread of creepypasta about the faceless being. In connection to the previous WMG, some apparitions in the Monogatari series are probably created by creepypasta.

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Slenderman is an apparition created due to the spread of creepypasta about the faceless being. In connection to the previous WMG, some apparitions in the Monogatari series are probably created by creepypasta.creepypasta.

[[WMG:[[Film/{{SpiderMan1}} The Green Goblin]] is Norman Osborn's apparation]]
it was created after Norman Osborn experimented on himself. The Green Goblin is an apparition which embodies Osborn's suppressed misanthropy. Like the Rainy Devil, the Green Goblin also helps Osborn do what he could not do himself like kill the board members of Oscorp who planned to oust him
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[[WMG:Psychologists are specialists or deal with apparitions]]

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[[WMG:Psychologists are specialists or who deal with apparitions]]
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It has been stated in the series that apparitions are born from superstitions so Dracula, Bigfoot, the Lochness Monster and all other supernatural beings or cryptids exist in the Monogatari universe.

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It has been stated in the series that apparitions are born from superstitions so Dracula, Bigfoot, the Lochness Monster and all other supernatural beings or cryptids exist in the Monogatari universe.universe.

[[WMG:[[VideoGame/{{Slender}} Slenderman]] is an apparition]]
Slenderman is an apparition created due to the spread of creepypasta about the faceless being. In connection to the previous WMG, some apparitions in the Monogatari series are probably created by creepypasta.
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[[WMG:Alternatively, the Monogatari Series is a sequel to Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica.]]
The universe was recreated where Magical Girls don't exist anymore meaning [[spoiler:no girls can't become witches]]. Traditional witches probably still exists in the Monogatari series as a type of apparition. Instead of the [[spoiler:Magical Girl system by Kyubey's race being the prime cause of advancement of the human civilization]], apparitions are somehow involved in this.



[[spoiler:Shadow Barkley]] is an apparition. As stated in the game he was created back in Film/SpaceJam and is the embodiement of the negative thoughts of [[spoiler:Charles Barkley]]. It represent's [[spoiler:Barkley's]] desire for everyone to enjoy basketball. The worldwide ban of basketball did everything worse and just made the Big Bad's powers stronger.

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[[spoiler:Shadow Barkley]] is an apparition. As stated in the game he was created back in Film/SpaceJam and is the embodiement of the negative thoughts of [[spoiler:Charles Barkley]]. It represent's [[spoiler:Barkley's]] desire for everyone to enjoy basketball. The worldwide ban of basketball did everything worse and just made the Big Bad's powers stronger.stronger.

[[WMG:Dracula, Bigfoot, and the Lochness Monster exists in the Monogatari universe]]
It has been stated in the series that apparitions are born from superstitions so Dracula, Bigfoot, the Lochness Monster and all other supernatural beings or cryptids exist in the Monogatari universe.
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[[WMG:Ougi Oshino is not Meme's niece as she claims]]
As stated by Kaiki to Hanekawa, Meme has no relatives.
*But Kaiki may just be lying to Hanekawa or that Meme thought all his relatives were dead.
**[[spoiler:Confirmed. Ougi is an apparition created by Koyomi]]

[[WMG:Hanekawa does not plan to go to college because...]]
She plans on becoming a specialist. That's why she is travelling around the world to get first hand experience with various apparitions.

[[WMG:Tadatsuru is cursed of knowing how everything would play out in the future]]
How does one explain how he seems to be expecting his meeting with Koyomi but doesn't seem to have forsaw his [[spoiler:death through the hands of Yotsugi]].

*[[spoiler:Possibly Jossed]]. [[spoiler:It was revealed in hell that it was part of a plan with Gaen in an elaborate plan to thwart Ougi.]] He got information from Gaen, who is possibly omniscient. That is why he was [[spoiler:not surprised by his "death"]].

[[WMG:About the apparition involving Tsukihi...]]
Tsukihi has [[spoiler:supernatural regeneration]] due to her [[spoiler:being an offspring of the Shide no Tori]]. When Koyomi learned the fact that her [[spoiler:sister is an apparition]], he is conflicted whether to [[spoiler:reveal the truth to Tsukihi]]. [[spoiler:Ougi has taunted that Tsukihi has no future at all suggesting that the lifespan of a Shide no Tori ends shortly after Tsukihi graduates from college or even earlier]]. However this may be [[spoiler:reflecting Koyomi's uncertainty regarding Tsukihi's nature, since Ougi IS Koyomi and only knows what he knows]].

In a later arc possibly before Hanamonogatari or after it, Koyomi will deal with this apparition. Tsukihi may be [[spoiler:wounded so much that her regeneration isn't enough that she may take the phoenix form of the Shide no Tori and finds a new host to be reborn.]] Or maybe this would result to Tsukihi [[spoiler:discovering her abilities as an apparition]] and may [[spoiler:lived to enjoy a normal human life after all]].

[[WMG:Sodachi will deal with an apparition]]
She is the only whose personal problems didn't revolve around an apparition. However she might deal with one in future arcs.

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[[WMG:Psychologists are specialists or deal with apparitions]]
Apparitions have a hand in mental illness, and people's personal problems like in the case of Hitagi, [[spoiler:Tsubasa, and Nadeko]]. Psychologists unknowingly deals with these apparitions. In the Monogatari universe specialists probably are psychologists, most of them concealing the paranormal aspects of their job from the general public.

[[WMG:Gaen is omniscient]]
How could she know everything? How could she know about the [[spoiler:"darkness"]] or the newer types of apparitions such as [[spoiler:Hanekawa's Kako]] and the [[spoiler:fact that Ougi Oshino is some kind of dark version of Koyomi]]. In moments she claimed to be suprised, she might be just bluffing.

Or she might be just a good mind-reader whether figuratively from subtle social cues and gestures of characters around her, or can literally read everyone's mind. Though she is careful not to say anything that might give a hint to other characters that she can read minds.



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-->'''-Koyomi Araragi'''

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[[WMG:Witches in Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica are apparitions.]]
Which are created by the magical girls themselves. In a manner similar to [[spoiler:Kanbaru's mother subconsciously gave birth to the Rainy Devil]] or Koyomi [[spoiler:creating Ougi Oshino]]. Instead [[spoiler:they become the apparition themselves]], a fact [[spoiler:withheld by Kyubey]].

Simillarly Walpurgisnacht is an apparition created due to the spread of a rumor of the witch coming to Mitakahara in a certain date and [[spoiler:not from a individual strong magical girl falling to despair]].

[[WMG:The Big Bad from VideoGame/BarkleyShutUpAndJamGaiden is an apparition]]
[[spoiler:Shadow Barkley]] is an apparition. As stated in the game he was created back in Film/SpaceJam and is the embodiement of the negative thoughts of [[spoiler:Charles Barkley]]. It represent's [[spoiler:Barkley's]] desire for everyone to enjoy basketball. The worldwide ban of basketball did everything worse and just made the Big Bad's powers stronger.
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-->"You can't hate an animal for doing what nature made it to do."

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-->"You ->"You can't hate an animal for doing what nature made it to do."



-->"It's wrong to pin blame on an apparition, because they simply are what they are. That's all there is to it."

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-->"It's ->"It's wrong to pin blame on an apparition, because they simply are what they are. That's all there is to it."
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---->'''Ginko'''

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---->'''Ginko'''-->'''-Ginko'''



---->'''Koyomi Araragi'''

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---->'''Koyomi -->'''-Koyomi Araragi'''
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Following WWII and the surge of Western values into Japan, people began to no longer accept the existence of mushi. As a result, they turned into becoming things far more supernatural than animalistic in nature. This means that Oshino is one of the few mushishi still doing that job; as we can see, it's probably not very profitable so few do the job anymore. This is not even taking into account Koyomi's similar appearance and personality to Ginko.

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Following WWII and the surge of Western values into Japan, people began to no longer accept the existence of mushi. As a result, they turned into becoming things far more supernatural than animalistic in nature. This means that Oshino is one of the few mushishi still doing that job; as we can see, it's probably not very profitable so few do the job anymore. This is not even taking into account Koyomi's similar appearance and personality to Ginko.Ginko.
-->"You can't hate an animal for doing what nature made it to do."
---->'''Ginko'''
-->"It's wrong to pin blame on an apparition, because they simply are what they are. That's all there is to it."
---->'''Koyomi Araragi'''
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[[WMG:Apparitions are the forms that [[Manga/{{Mushishi}} mushi]] take in the modern world.]]
Following WWII and the surge of Western values into Japan, people began to no longer accept the existence of mushi. As a result, they turned into becoming things far more supernatural than animalistic in nature. This means that Oshino is one of the few mushishi still doing that job; as we can see, it's probably not very profitable so few do the job anymore. This is not even taking into account Koyomi's similar appearance and personality to Ginko.
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[[WMG:Karen is also some kind of supernatural creature, or at least partly touched by the supernatural]]
It's hard to otherwise explain her phenomenal physical strength - no other human character in the series exhibits anything remotely close to it without using magic or getting aid from a supernatural being. Given that her brother is a vampire and her sister is a phoenix without even knowing it, it wouldn't be all that much of a stretch.

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[[WMG:Oshino is the [[{{Mononoke}} Medicine Seller]] in [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith A Form We'd Be Comfortable With]].]]

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[[WMG:Oshino is the [[{{Mononoke}} [[Anime/{{Mononoke}} Medicine Seller]] in [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith A Form We'd Be Comfortable With]].]]



The Medicine Seller ''is'' immortal, and if he is a mononoke like on ''Mononoke''[='s=] WMG, who says he can't shapeshift? He didn't bother back in the 1920s because while his outfit ''was'' rather out of place, there were still people running around in kimono back then, so nobody made a huge deal out of it. Nowadays everybody would call him out on it, so he traded in the ridiculous kimono for a ridiculous Aloha shirt. As for whatever happened to his sword...perhaps it became corrupt someway or another and became [[spoiler:Heart-under-blade/Shinobu]], who has occasional access to an absurdly sharp sword.

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The Medicine Seller ''is'' immortal, and if he is a mononoke like on ''Mononoke''[='s=] WMG, who says he can't shapeshift? He didn't bother back in the 1920s because while his outfit ''was'' rather out of place, there were still people running around in kimono back then, so nobody made a huge deal out of it. Nowadays everybody would call him out on it, so he traded in the ridiculous kimono for a ridiculous Aloha shirt. As for whatever happened to his sword...perhaps it became corrupt someway some way or another and became [[spoiler:Heart-under-blade/Shinobu]], who has occasional access to an absurdly sharp sword.



For one, they both deal with the supernatural. Two, Yuuko seems like his DistaffCounterpart. Three, they both have a Wattanuki-like figure (i.ie, an {{adorkable}} teenage boy whom they love to tease. Lastly, [[spoiler: they both disappear]] at some point, [[spoiler: leaving their little teenage boys alone to fend for themselves...]] sort of. What this troper wonders most is why he hasn't written a crossover of XxxHolic and LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}.

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For one, they both deal with the supernatural. Two, Yuuko seems like his DistaffCounterpart. Three, they both have a Wattanuki-like Watanuki-like figure (i.ie, an {{adorkable}} teenage boy whom they love to tease. Lastly, [[spoiler: they both disappear]] at some point, [[spoiler: leaving their little teenage boys alone to fend for themselves...]] sort of. What this troper wonders most is why he hasn't written a crossover of XxxHolic ''Manga/{{xxxHOLiC}}'' and LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}.''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}''.

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Okay, honestly, I only started thinking this because I noticed TakahiroSakurai voices both, but it's not that out there, is it? It's been noted that both shows have similar formats and concepts.

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Okay, honestly, I only started thinking this because I noticed TakahiroSakurai Creator/TakahiroSakurai voices both, but it's not that out there, is it? It's been noted that both shows have similar formats and concepts.
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For one, they both deal with the supernatural. Two, Yuuko seems like his DistaffCounterpart. Three, they both have a Wattanuki-like figure (i.ie, an {{adorkable}} teenage boy whom they love to tease. Lastly, [[spoiler: they both disappear]] at some point, [[spoiler: leaving their little teenage boys alone to fend for themselves...]] sort of. What this troper wonders most is why he hasn't written a crossover of XxxHolic and {{Bakemonogatari}}.

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For one, they both deal with the supernatural. Two, Yuuko seems like his DistaffCounterpart. Three, they both have a Wattanuki-like figure (i.ie, an {{adorkable}} teenage boy whom they love to tease. Lastly, [[spoiler: they both disappear]] at some point, [[spoiler: leaving their little teenage boys alone to fend for themselves...]] sort of. What this troper wonders most is why he hasn't written a crossover of XxxHolic and {{Bakemonogatari}}.LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}.
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[[WMG:Oshino somehow knows Yuuko.]]
For one, they both deal with the supernatural. Two, Yuuko seems like his DistaffCounterpart. Three, they both have a Wattanuki-like figure (i.ie, an {{adorkable}} teenage boy whom they love to tease. Lastly, [[spoiler: they both disappear]] at some point, [[spoiler: leaving their little teenage boys alone to fend for themselves...]] sort of. What this troper wonders most is why he hasn't written a crossover of XxxHolic and {{Bakemonogatari}}.
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[[WMG:Shinobu is/was a [[spoiler:one of the [[{{Tsukihime}} 27 Dead Apostles]]]] ]]

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[[WMG:Shinobu is/was a [[spoiler:one of the [[{{Tsukihime}} [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} 27 Dead Apostles]]]] ]]
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