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[[WMG:Ayn Rand is [[Twilight Stephanie Meyer]]. ]]

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[[WMG:Ayn Rand is [[Twilight Stephanie Meyer]]. Meyer.]]
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[[WMG:Ayn Rand is [[Literature/Twilight Stephanie Meyer]].
Because who else would write long, horribly inaccurate opinion-forcing self-insertion fanfic-made-literature and say they're better than anyone for getting a fanfic published?

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For added hilarity and insanity, John Galt is Simon's ancestor.

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For added hilarity and insanity, John Galt is Simon's ancestor.
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[[WMG: AtlasShrugged is the distant FanSequel to [[FriedrichNietzsche Thus Spake Zarasuthra]].]]
And Literature/TheBible is the backstory/prologue to the latter. Also, {{V for Vendetta}} could be the English branch-off of the Creator/AynRand universe, set in the aftermath of the events of Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}.

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[[WMG: AtlasShrugged is the distant FanSequel to [[FriedrichNietzsche [[Creator/FriedrichNietzsche Thus Spake Zarasuthra]].]]
And Literature/TheBible is the backstory/prologue to the latter. Also, {{V for Vendetta}} VForVendetta could be the English branch-off of the Creator/AynRand universe, set in the aftermath of the events of Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}.
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* The voice activated door locks are the ultimate example of Rand's philosophy. When Dagny speaks the words of the Strikers' oath, that she will no longer sacrifice herself to others, nor allow others to sacrifice themselves for her, she is permitted to enter the core of the Strikers' society, a power plant where all of the valley's energy is generated, with enough to spare to power the entire world.

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* The voice activated door locks are the ultimate example of Rand's philosophy. When Dagny speaks the words of the Strikers' oath, that she will no longer sacrifice herself to others, nor allow others to sacrifice themselves for her, she is permitted to enter the core of the Strikers' society, a power plant where all of the valley's energy is generated, with enough to spare to power the entire world.



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And Literature/TheBible is the backstory/prologue to the latter. Also, {{V for Vendetta}} could be the English branch-off of the AynRand universe, set in the aftermath of the events of Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}.

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* Not really. Rorschach was a fascist. V been a leftist-anarchist would probably have been very collectivist. And Zarathustra, being a good Nietzschean, would consider absurd the objectivist ideas of an objective morality (he would see them as slaves).



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*** To be more precise, he's the Eleventh Doctor. The prophecy that Silence will fall when the question is asked actually refers to the question "Who is John Galt" and his speech.

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*** To be more precise, he's the Eleventh Doctor. The prophecy that Silence will fall when the question is asked actually refers to the question "Who is John Galt" Galt?" and his speech.
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*** To be more precise, he's the Eleventh Doctor. The prophecy that Silence will fall when the question is asked actually refers to the question "Who is John Galt" and his speech.

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And TheBible is the backstory/prologue to the latter. Also, {{V for Vendetta}} could be the English branch-off of the AynRand universe, set in the aftermath of the events of Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}.

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[[WMG:John Galt is V. from VForVendetta.]]
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[[WMG: Rand did not intend all the superscience technologies in the book to be interpreted as potential future developments, but as physical examples of the abstract capabilities and traits of the human mind.]]
* The shale-oil drilling process is an example of human ingenuity, which can turn worthless raw materials into sources of great prosperity. The Colorado oil shale hills were believed to be worthless, until Ellis Wyatt developed a process which allowed him to profitably extract huge quantites of fuel oil from them. Without Wyatt's process, the land is worthless: "I'm leaving it as I found it. Take over. It's yours."
* Rearden Metal is an example of human determination, as Hank Rearden did not have a revelation as to its design, but developed it over the course of his adult life. When the Looters force him to give it up, they rename it "Miracle Metal", as they are too small-minded to understand the amount of effort that Rearden put into its development.
* Galt's Motor is an example of human creativity, which has no real limits. Galt created the motor through his own efforts, without support from anyone, and it is fully capable of providing limitless power to the entire world-it is literally the motor of the world. It could have prevented the societal collapse which ocurrs at the novel's climax, yet it has been stopped and left to rust in an abandoned factory. The factory was once the most prosperous in the country, but was inherited by incompetent minds which instituted policies which led to its collapse.
* The Gulch mirage is an example to how intellect may be overlooked by the masses, yet discovered by the determined, as society at large is unaware of Galt's Gulch, yet Dagny penetrates it due to her determination to find Quentin Daniels.
* Project X is an example of how human intellect may be turned to destructive purposes through coercion, and how those intellects are ultimately destroyed by their creations. Stadler, although an incredible mind, believes that the only way he can prosper is by forcing others to support him. Ultimately, he dies along with his creation when Cuffy Meigs clumsily attempts to claim it for himself.
* The voice activated door locks are the ultimate example of Rand's philosophy. When Dagny speaks the words of the Strikers' oath, that she will no longer sacrifice herself to others, nor allow others to sacrifice themselves for her, she is permitted to enter the core of the Strikers' society, a power plant where all of the valley's energy is generated, with enough to spare to power the entire world.
* Palm-activated door locks are an example of the sanctity of the human mind-to attempt to force it open and claim its contents against the owner's will will only result in the destruction of all that it holds. Galt's New York laboratory has one of these locks-only his hand can open it. When the police arrive and force the door, all of his work is destroyed without a trace.
* The torture machine is an example of Rand's concept of the Sanction of the Victim. In the novel's climax, the Looters take John Galt to a secret location and attempt to force him to save them and their failing society. The machine breaks, and none of the Looters know how to fix it. Galt then calmly and eloquently instructs him on how it may be repaired. The Looters are literally unable to even harm Galt without Galt's intellect to make their machine work.
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And TheBible is the backstory/prologue to the latter. Also, {{V for Vendetta}} could be the English branch-off of the AynRand universe, set in the aftermath of the events of {{Watchmen}}.Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}.
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** He's [[ProfessionalWrestling Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart]]?
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[[WMG: John Galt is an agent of [[MichaelMoorcock Chaos]]]]
Think about it – the world is spiralling downward, society and the economy is killing it self from with in, rotten thru and thru as the oak of Eddie Willers childhood and what is it that Galt do: He convicts the people that could turn this development and prevent society to implode on it self and humanity becoming nothing but neo-tribal tech-barbarians, to abound society and the rest of the world. Galt is not trying to create a heaven for the best and the brightest or not even to save them from a failing society that don’t care about them; he is trying to gather them to prevent them from saving the modern society.

Also most of the people in Galt’s Gulch are highly individualistic and Galt not only convict them to follow him and his philosophy but also to abound all their fortunes and place in society. How dose he do that? With help of [[CharmPerson unnatural charisma]] gifted by Chaos!

The real question is not Who is John Galt, it is What is John Galt, under that all to perfect human appearance…

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* His SPEECH...the very long one
** if it was bigger on the inside then I pity whoever had to sit and listen to it

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* ** His SPEECH...the very long one
** *** if it was bigger on the inside then I pity whoever had to sit and listen to it
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* No, he's Ryan.

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* No, he's Ryan.
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[[WMG: John Galt had the Ferris Persuader sabotaged]]
He manged to get cigarettes from Atlantis while in custody so he had an someone on the inside. Working from within he had the torture machine sabotaged and that is why he knew exactly what was wrong with it when it malfunctioned.
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** John Galt is [[DoctorWho The Doctor]]?

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** John Galt is [[DoctorWho [[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]]?



[[WMG: Dagny Taggart is [[DoctorWho Amy Pond]].]]

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Or the house is Austen Heller's.



Or the house is Austen Heller's.
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[[WMG: Dagny Taggart is [[DoctorWho Amy Pond]].]]
Because ''for twelve years'' she's been asking: ''Who'' is John Galt?
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* John Galt was a pseudonym for the guy [[WhosOnFirst who was one first]].

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* John Galt was a pseudonym for the guy [[WhosOnFirst who was one on first]].
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[[WMG:John Galt is a Time Lord.]]
...someone had to say it.
* No, they didn't.
* What is his TARDIS?
* His SPEECH...the very long one
** if it was bigger on the inside then I pity whoever had to sit and listen to it

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* ... Which is ''entirely possible'' as long as...

[[WMG:John Galt is a Time Lord.]]
...someone had to say it.
* No, they didn't.
* What is his TARDIS?
* His SPEECH...the very long one
** if it was bigger on the inside then I pity whoever had to sit and listen to it

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* ... Which is ''entirely possible'' as long as...

[[WMG:John Galt is a Time Lord.]]
...someone had to say it.
* No, they didn't.
* What is his TARDIS?
* His SPEECH...the very long one
** if it was bigger on the inside then I pity whoever had to sit and listen to it
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[[WMG: John Galt is not in fact a MessianicArchetype. Nor is he a genocidal {{Jerkass}}.]]

At best, he is TheParagon and at worst, is the DarkMessiah and knows it.
He believes the world's beyond his power to save and that attempting to do so would just be [[SenselessSacrifice throwing his life away in the pursuit of an impossibility.]] So instead he chooses to save what small part of it matters to him most and try to give what remains the best chance they can of picking themselves back up from the ashes.
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[[WMG: The story was a ShootTheShaggyDogStory]]
Galts Gulch is a blatant Egopolis only held together through the combined egos of the people there when they die everthing they achieved will fall apart.
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This: http://bradhicks.livejournal.com/393124.html seems to follow a very similar line of reasoning.
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[[WMG: John Galt's magical engine ''doesn't'' run on ambient static electricity.]]
Galt combined a normal engine with his magical mind reading lock, and created an engine that's powered by ego. Hence, the people of the Gulch are now guaranteed all the energy they could want.

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