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[[WMG: Dylan Hunt is actually the villain.]]
His love of authoritarian approaches and his willingness to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of sentient lives to attain his personal goals bears this out. Witness how he disregards the free will of any who disagree with him such as the fleet of AI who wish to be free, participates in bloody coups, and disobeys orders even when a Vedran who outranks him shows up. If you watch the show with the mindset that Dylan is a despot trying to revive an empire that only existed by conquest in the first place it makes much more sense
His love of authoritarian approaches and his willingness to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of sentient lives to attain his personal goals bears this out. Witness how he disregards the free will of any who disagree with him such as the fleet of AI who wish to be free, participates in bloody coups, and disobeys orders even when a Vedran who outranks him shows up. If you watch the show with the mindset that Dylan is a despot trying to revive an empire that only existed by conquest in the first place it makes much more sense
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[[WMG: ''The Spirit of the Abyss'' is the Shower Guy from ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'']].
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[[WMG: ''The Spirit of the Abyss'' is the Shower Guy from ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'']].''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''.]]
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* Aditionally, most of those who call themselves "hardcore fans" haven't actually ''read'' the famous Robert Wolfe's ''Coda'' script, but only descriptions of it. While it plans for the crew to end up as the leaders of all the factions (which is awesome), those descriptions usualy fail to mention it also ends in an ''horribly'' anticlimatic cliffhanger, and with the characters knowing that one of them (but having no idea who) is bound to die. Some fans have actally stated to be ''glad'' said Wolfe's vision wasn't what finally happened with the series.
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* Aditionally, most of those who call themselves "hardcore fans" haven't actually ''read'' the famous Robert Wolfe's ''Coda'' script, but only descriptions of it. While it plans for the crew to end up as the leaders of all the factions (which is awesome), those descriptions usualy fail to mention it also ends in an ''horribly'' anticlimatic cliffhanger, and with the characters knowing that one of them (but having no idea who) is bound to die. Some fans have actally stated to be ''glad'' said Wolfe's vision wasn't what finally happened with the series.series.
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Okay... obviously GrowingTheBeard and SeasonalRot are matters of opinion. But the "hardcore" fans believe that the show was at its best before "Ourboros," and everything went downhill after. However, the show did poorly even in its early seasons, with reviews specifically citing its Narmy nature and storm of cliches. Both these elements are noticeably lessened after "Ourboros," with the show taking a somewhat more serious tone (but still lighthearted compared to other scifis of its type at the time), characters gaining less stereotypical personalities, and human villains with human motivations as opposed to mindless monsters. The latter were also.... well to be blunt, the Magog are like something out of a children's show, when they actually appear onscreen. This troper has to conclude that the "hardcore fans" haven't actually re-watched much of the show since childhood, and/or just haven't gained much exposure to SpaceOpera so they don't notice the cliches. Some fans on the internet have outright expressed disappointment in re-watching the show, with their viewings as adults contrasting drastically to their nostalgia.
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Okay... obviously GrowingTheBeard and SeasonalRot are matters of opinion. But the "hardcore" fans believe that the show was at its best before "Ourboros," and everything went downhill after. However, the show did poorly even in its early seasons, with reviews specifically citing its Narmy nature and storm of cliches. Both these elements are noticeably lessened after "Ourboros," with the show taking a somewhat more serious tone (but still lighthearted compared to other scifis of its type at the time), characters gaining less stereotypical personalities, and human villains with human motivations as opposed to mindless monsters. The latter were also.... well to be blunt, the Magog are like something out of a children's show, when they actually appear onscreen. This troper has to conclude that the "hardcore fans" haven't actually re-watched much of the show since childhood, and/or just haven't gained much exposure to SpaceOpera so they don't notice the cliches. Some fans on the internet have outright expressed disappointment in re-watching the show, with their viewings as adults contrasting drastically to their nostalgia.nostalgia.
* Aditionally, most of those who call themselves "hardcore fans" haven't actually ''read'' the famous Robert Wolfe's ''Coda'' script, but only descriptions of it. While it plans for the crew to end up as the leaders of all the factions (which is awesome), those descriptions usualy fail to mention it also ends in an ''horribly'' anticlimatic cliffhanger, and with the characters knowing that one of them (but having no idea who) is bound to die. Some fans have actally stated to be ''glad'' said Wolfe's vision wasn't what finally happened with the series.
* Aditionally, most of those who call themselves "hardcore fans" haven't actually ''read'' the famous Robert Wolfe's ''Coda'' script, but only descriptions of it. While it plans for the crew to end up as the leaders of all the factions (which is awesome), those descriptions usualy fail to mention it also ends in an ''horribly'' anticlimatic cliffhanger, and with the characters knowing that one of them (but having no idea who) is bound to die. Some fans have actally stated to be ''glad'' said Wolfe's vision wasn't what finally happened with the series.
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The Culture fell some time after Earth became a member. The Vedran Empire is the last offshoot of the Culture (and why they are able to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, called "subliming" in the Culture.]]
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The Culture fell some time after Earth became a member. The Vedran Empire is the last offshoot of the Culture (and why they are able to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, called "subliming" in the Culture.]]]]
[[WMG: Most of the "Hardcore Fans" watched the show at a very young age and/or had not seen many other SpaceOpera shows at the time.]]
Okay... obviously GrowingTheBeard and SeasonalRot are matters of opinion. But the "hardcore" fans believe that the show was at its best before "Ourboros," and everything went downhill after. However, the show did poorly even in its early seasons, with reviews specifically citing its Narmy nature and storm of cliches. Both these elements are noticeably lessened after "Ourboros," with the show taking a somewhat more serious tone (but still lighthearted compared to other scifis of its type at the time), characters gaining less stereotypical personalities, and human villains with human motivations as opposed to mindless monsters. The latter were also.... well to be blunt, the Magog are like something out of a children's show, when they actually appear onscreen. This troper has to conclude that the "hardcore fans" haven't actually re-watched much of the show since childhood, and/or just haven't gained much exposure to SpaceOpera so they don't notice the cliches. Some fans on the internet have outright expressed disappointment in re-watching the show, with their viewings as adults contrasting drastically to their nostalgia.
[[WMG: Most of the "Hardcore Fans" watched the show at a very young age and/or had not seen many other SpaceOpera shows at the time.]]
Okay... obviously GrowingTheBeard and SeasonalRot are matters of opinion. But the "hardcore" fans believe that the show was at its best before "Ourboros," and everything went downhill after. However, the show did poorly even in its early seasons, with reviews specifically citing its Narmy nature and storm of cliches. Both these elements are noticeably lessened after "Ourboros," with the show taking a somewhat more serious tone (but still lighthearted compared to other scifis of its type at the time), characters gaining less stereotypical personalities, and human villains with human motivations as opposed to mindless monsters. The latter were also.... well to be blunt, the Magog are like something out of a children's show, when they actually appear onscreen. This troper has to conclude that the "hardcore fans" haven't actually re-watched much of the show since childhood, and/or just haven't gained much exposure to SpaceOpera so they don't notice the cliches. Some fans on the internet have outright expressed disappointment in re-watching the show, with their viewings as adults contrasting drastically to their nostalgia.
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[[WMG: The Commonwealth is descended from TheCulture.]]
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[[WMG: The Commonwealth is descended from TheCulture.Literature/TheCulture.]]
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TheCulture fell some time after Earth became a member. The Vedran Empire is the last offshoot of TheCulture (and why they are able to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, called "subliming" in the Culture.]]
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[[WMG: ''The Spirit of the Abyss'' is the Shower Guy from {{Enterprise}}]].
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[[WMG: ''The Spirit of the Abyss'' is the Shower Guy from {{Enterprise}}]].''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'']].
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TheCulture fell some time after Earth became a member. The Verdan Empire is the last offshoot of TheCulture (and why they are able to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, called "subliming" in the Culture.]]
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TheCulture fell some time after Earth became a member. The Verdan Vedran Empire is the last offshoot of TheCulture (and why they are able to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, called "subliming" in the Culture.]]
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TheCulture fell some time after Earth became a member - Earth and its offshoot colonies became the dominant in The Commonwealth because they were too far away from the main branch of TheCulture.
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TheCulture fell some time after Earth became a member - Earth and its member. The Verdan Empire is the last offshoot colonies became the dominant in The Commonwealth because of TheCulture (and why they were too far away from are able to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, called "subliming" in the main branch of TheCulture.Culture.]]
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''Andromeda Ascendant'' is a relatively "normal" name - but it belongs to the ''Glorious Heritage Class''.
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''Andromeda Ascendant'' is a relatively "normal" name - but it belongs to the ''Glorious Heritage Class''.Class''.
TheCulture fell some time after Earth became a member - Earth and its offshoot colonies became the dominant in The Commonwealth because they were too far away from the main branch of TheCulture.
TheCulture fell some time after Earth became a member - Earth and its offshoot colonies became the dominant in The Commonwealth because they were too far away from the main branch of TheCulture.
